Biden: Specter Saves Nation from Depression (with his stimulus vote)

I wonder if the WH considers Biden as a credible news source?
I’m guessing they wish reliable news organizations like MSNBC and CNN (hee hee hee) wouldn’t quote him.

Jake,
Why are you not reporting the comments by the White House about FOX news this weekend?
I have been following your column for quite a while now – you are a straight shooter and don’t strike me as a patsy for the Obama administration. You ask tough questions and fast to call them out. I have nothing but respect.
Remaining quite on this issue is surprising to me. This is not about business it is about politics.
Let us know if you deem this attack on FOX is news worthy to you, Jake – I promise it is important to some of us that are impressed enough to stay with you.
This story is news worthy, Jake – how dare this administration take these kinds of shots at a news channel. As importantly, how dare the mainstream media from not reporting it.
I would be interested in your take on it Jake.

Thanks Specter for those 30K jobs that cost $16 billion.
And thanks for saddling our kids and grandkids with massive debt.
Specter fits in perfectly with the tax and spend crowd.
He went from the party of “No” to the party of “no accountability”.
Good riddance…

“He went from the party of “No” to the party of “no accountability”.
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The Republicans are the party of both ‘No’ and ‘no accountability’.
In the economic ‘good times’, Bush ran up the national debt by an average of about $500 BILLION dollars each year – he put all that money of the taxpayer’s credit card and left us all far more deeply in debt – while lowering taxes on the very rich.
He then oversaw the virtual free-fall collapse of the country’s economy, a huge bailout of banks, financial institutions and automotive companies.
He left office with the economy hemorrhaging 700,000 jobs per month, and he left a projected 2009 deficit of $1.2 TRILLION on the table for the new President.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 30% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -10. This is the fourth straight day the Approval Index has been in negative double digits.

Presidential Job Approval Ratings
Approve/Disapprove
57/40 ABC News/Wash Post
51/42 Gallup
49/50 Rasmussen Reports*
49/45 FOX News
53/41 Marist
56/34 CBS News
52.5%/42.0% RCP Average
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Thanks for having the integrity to post a range of polls rather than just cherry pick one poll to suit a personal political agenda – like some on here do.

Maybe taxpayers should get a little credit.
Taxpayers from this generation and the next have inherited Obama’s debt.

I think Specter is going to need a little more than Biden to win re-election.

and in case you missed it . . ..
In the economic ‘good times’, Bush ran up the national debt by an average of about $500 BILLION dollars each year – he put all that money of the taxpayer’s credit card and left us all far more deeply in debt – while lowering taxes on the very rich.
He then oversaw the virtual free-fall collapse of the country’s economy, a huge bailout of banks, financial institutions and automotive companies.
He left office with the economy hemorrhaging 700,000 jobs per month, and he left a projected 2009 deficit of $1.2 TRILLION on the table for the new President.

There is absolutely no evidence for this claim.There is absolutely no evidence that the stimulus has had any effect on the economy aside from delaying a normal recovery from a recession while placing a mountain of debt on our children. For 17% of our workforce we ARE in a Depression.

p.s – All figures from Bureau of Public Debt, United States Department of the Treasury

“Of course, the three million Americans who’ve lost their jobs under Obama weren’t going anywhere anyway.”
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How dishonest. The economic crash happened on George Bush’s watch after 6 years of his increasing the national debt by an average of about $500 BILLION each year, indebting the country to the Chinese, and cutting taxes for the rich.
By the time Bush left office, the economy has hemorrhaging 700,000 a month, the stock market was in virtual free-fall collapse, and the country was embroiled in 2 wars.
We also know that when Obama walked into the President’s office the 2009 deficit was already projected at $1.2 TRILLION dollars.
Sure, blame it all on Obama .. . .

Fascist Hyena writes: “This news may be unwelcome for goofballs, but it is important to know the views of actual voters. You may rely on me to present those views to you impartially.”
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“No warmth could warm, no wintry weather chill him. No wind that blew was bitterer than he, no falling snow was more intent upon its purpose, no pelting rain less open to entreaty.” — Charles Dickens

jhw539 writes….
“? The Bush administration threatened the NY Times with treason. ”
The NY Times were revealing Bush administration tactics during a war. Right or wrong they were jeopardizing national security. Frankly, there is a genuine case to be made that the NY Times publishing that information was, in fact, treason.
This attach on FOX is entirely different. You have the White House Chief of Staff and a high ranking WH Advisor coming at FOX, questioning its credibility as a news station. In fact, the President himself whined about FOX a couple of weeks ago because there is one show that spends the entire hour ‘assaulting his policies.’
And, when you mention that FOX is collapsing I assume you are not talking about their ratings – FOX dominates cable news to the point that they have more market share than all the other cable networks combined. If you are referring to some ideological ‘collapse’ then that is some kind of mental thing you have going with yourself – it does not reflect reality. The reality is that when the major news organizations decide to miss the Tea Party in Washington the folks in the Heartland – people like me – feel that we are being force fed a particular ideological perspective by omission. We are grateful for FOX – not because we all don’t see their leanings (because we do) but because they bring us the news and all the news.
If Jake & Company decide not to report this story because of some business decision or, worse, because it is simply not news worthy, then it adds to the kinds of omissions that have become characteristic of the main stream media. The debate then goes to the one thing that matters to the business of ABC news: our individual votes as watchers of the news, readers of this blog and buyers of the products that advertise on ABC news.

So.. did he save us when he was GOP or when he was a Democrat?

2006 – Republican Congress, Republican President – National Debt increased $574 BILLION
Posted by: julieterra | Oct 20, 2009 12:35:40 AM
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Where are the rest of the figures? Or are you afraid to post the Democratic Congress/obama figures?

Alyson, could you give us some idea of the population polled? Sounds like only 20% of the people polled were Republicans. What were the rest? Also, many people are now calling themselves conservatives rather than Republicans because they view the Republican party as too compromising. Rasmussen polls show different data from what you report and are thought to be pretty accurate.they are conducted daily.

Lone Star Rules wrote: “The reality is that when the major news organizations decide to miss the Tea Party in Washington the folks in the Heartland – people like me – feel that we are being force fed a particular ideological perspective by omission.”
Did you fall for those full-page ads Fox ran in three major newspapers asking “How did, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, and CNN miss this story?”
Fox lied.
NBC News correspondent Tom Costello reported live for NBC Nightly News Saturday.
CNN had more than a dozen personnel on the scene and provided live coverage. CNN.com provided a live stream of the rally throughout the day. CNN criticized Fox for its inaccurate statement. “Fox News’ ad released today is blatantly false regarding CNN’s coverage of the 9/12 rally.”
ABC featured the story on the network’s morning shows, nightly news broadcast, in extensive radio reporting and online.
MSNBC said in a statement, “Just like every other network mentioned in the ad, MSNBC covered last Saturday’s protest.”
CBS issued a statement saying “CBS News had multiple crews on site with our Congressional Correspondent Nancy Cordes reporting… It was the lead story on the CBS EVENING NEWS; CBS Radio News provided hourly reports during the day and CBSNews.com had the story in its rotating lead all day. They also processed the Nancy Cordes video and linked it throughout the site.”

Fascist Hyena
Just wanted to thank-you for posting the daily tracking poll from Rasmussen.
The past few days have been encouraging.
Are Americans sick of Obama’s rediculous war with Fox?
The Obamamedia should wake up.
Fox is only the beginning–the WH won’t stop there.

Posted by: Elle | Oct 20, 2009 9:47:49 AM
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It’s really simple to type “washington post abc poll” into google and get info. So if you have more Q’s you can do that as I have to roll in a couple minutes. But as to who was polled:
“This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone Oct. 15-18, 2009, among a random national sample of 1,004 adults including users of both conventional and cellular phones. ”
Regarding Rasmussen, Scott Rasmussen was a paid consultant for Republicans and Rasmussen toplines tend to tilt toward the Republican side. That’s not a problem if you factor that in, and its likely what makes Rasmussen the choice of conservatives (and it is). They also conduct their surveys via robocalls and limit their “random” sample to likely voters. Their beauty comes in their frequency and sample size, so over time, you can see trends but as a snapshot, or on issues, they aren’t always as accurate as they tend to elicit responses that are more conservative than those found on most other national surveys and in real life. How questions are asked also comes into play. I look at Rasmussen more seriously as we get closer to elections but I still look at the trends at RCP and Pollster rather than simply taking Rasmussen at face value as they’re going to paint the landscape as looking more conservative than is the reality. Still, for trends, I don’t discount Rasmussen at all. But you need to look at other polls that aren’t automated and tilted slightly to the right so you’re not misled.
Others with a better background in statistics and polling have discussed this at length and more expertly. You can check the threads– and look at Numeros’s posts and some others.

…The story of the last 29 years: Under a Republican Senate, the economy grew at a strong pace, unemployment fell and the stock market made solid gains. Under a Democrat Senate, the economy grew weakly, unemployment rose and the stock market fell. You can look it up. (And by the way, these differences are statistically significant.)
Posted by: Jenny | Oct 20, 2009 10:10:22 AM
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Oh, I see…the strength of the dollar has nothing to do with the President and the Treasury Secretary, and things like $1 trillion ‘for no-good-reason’ unfunded wars.
So when the dollar is strong, it is because of the Republican Senate, and when it is weak, it is because of a Democratic Senate…the House of Representatives is not important anymore.
The Democrat Senate is responsible for the Stock Market Crash? That is novel…haven’t heard that one before.
Oh…and George H. W. Bush didn’t really ‘shrink the economy’…it was the Democratic Senate.
The President isn’t part of the equation with respect to the growth of the economy anymore…it is the Senate!
We all know that Bush and the Republicans in Congress were unable to stop or veto the Democrats spending bills…right?
We did have Republicans like Senator Stevens (with the support of Governor Sarah Palin) railing against spending for things like ‘a Bridge to Nowhere’…but to no avail!
We all know all these things to be true…or do we?

We did have Republicans like Senator Stevens (with the support of Governor Sarah Palin) railing against spending for things like ‘a Bridge to Nowhere’…but to no avail!
We all know all these things to be true…or do we?
Posted by: ErnestNM | Oct 20, 2009 11:27:12 AM
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You want to give credit for the 90s to Clinton? Here are his policy highlights after 1994 (when Congress went Republican).
* Welfare was ended in 1996.
* The Freedom To Farm Act of 1996 began phasing out direct payments for crops and milk price supports and would have phased them out completely if allowed to continue. (In 2002, under a Democrat Senate led by Tom Daschle, the Freedom to Farm Act was effectively killed. Yes, President Bush signed Daschle’s bill.)
* The capital gains tax rate was cut significantly. The top rate fell from 28% in 1996 to 20% in 1997.
* Federal spending as a percentage of GDP fell from 21.0% in 1994 to 18.4% in 2000, the lowest level since 1966.
* A budget deficit of 2.9% of GDP in 1994 turned into a surplus of 2.4% of GDP by 2000.
President Clinton also signed the NAFTA free trade agreement in 1993. Although the Senate was under Democrat control then, 77% of Republican Senators voted to ratify, while a majority of Democrats voted not to ratify, or against their own President.
These policies (cutting taxes, cutting spending, ending programs, free trade) were policies that Republican’s espoused. Liberals hated all these policies. For example, Peter Edelman (husband of Marion Wright-Edelman, president and founder of the Children’s Defense Fund) resigned his position as assistant secretary of Health and Human Services in protest of the end of welfare.
If you want to give Bill Clinton credit for economic results during his terms, you have to link those results to his policies. If you want to give him credit for those policies, you must admit that they were virtually all in line with Republican rhetoric and antithetical to modern liberalism.

Has a sitting Vice President ever been impeached? Is it possible to censure him.. I do like the entertainment value and he is the POTUS’s ultimate insurance policy.

The following is the today’s set of ‘Job Approval’ polls:
Approve / Disapprove / Spread__Sample__Date__Poll
57% / 40% / 17%__1004 A__10/15 – 10/18__ABC /Wash Post
56% / 34% / 22%__ 829 A__10/5 – 10/8__ CBS News
51% / 42% / 9%__1547 A__10/16 – 10/18__Gallup
49% / 45% / 4%__ 900 RV__10/13 – 10/14__FOX News
53% / 41% / 12%__913 RV__10/7 – 10/12__Marist
47% / 52% / -5%__1500 LV__10/17 – 10/17__Rasmussen
52% / 42% / 10%__———__10/5 – 10/18__Average
It looks like the Average ‘Job Approval’ was making the Republicans a bit anxious.
Nothing that a quick call to their ‘polling unit’ couldn’t help solve?

Yes, Ernest, we do. Do your research and you will learn something new today. You do like to broaden your mind, don’t you, Ernest?
Posted by: Jenny | Oct 20, 2009 12:11:46 PM
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Actually, I’m having fun residing on your plane today. It’s a much easier thought process.

Actually, I’m having fun residing on your plane today. It’s a much easier thought process.
Posted by: ErnestNM | Oct 20, 2009 12:23:31 PM
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If you can’t argue the facts, then how do you respond?
And yes, Miss Julie, he DID say 8%. What is the unemployment rate now? How many jobs have been created with $1 Trillion? Go to recovery.gov and see for yourself. Let’s all hold obama accountable for the things he said.

“And yes, Miss Julie, he DID say 8%. What is the unemployment rate now?”
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Obama ‘promised’ nothing of the sort – your repeating the lie only shows your own ignorance and the propensity of the right to chronically lie.
If you have a quote showing the President promising to keep the unemployment rate below 8%, provide the quote, the source and the date so we can all look it up and verify it.

OK so what did the stimulus do -
12 Billion for Acorn
2 billion to stupy why Prostitutes in Haitis have Aids
Here is the out come
9.9% unemployment being payed out
17% Actual unemployment if you calculate people who took parttime jobs or gave up
53% unemployment amoung young people including College grads
No end in sight for recession!!
Obama is leaving our troops at war with no support!!!
IMPEACH OBAMA, BIDEN, PELOSI, REID NOW!!!

Biden should replace Letterman.

WWW – you write that the major news organizations covered the Tea Parties. (I would quote you but that would only recite a long recital of what the majors said after the fact).
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I really don’t know what Fox said about the other networks – I am telling you my experience.
The only network that I saw that covered the Tea Party was CNN – it is my habit to flip around to all the stations to find segments that are of interest to me. I am not testing them to see what they are covering – God created the remote to be able to move around. I do. I did during the tea Parties and flat did not see the majors or their cable counterparts do anything with the tea parties.
I admit that I have a hard time with Keith Oberman – he is a blow hard, pseudo intellectual that pontificates as if somehow what he says matter but, past him, I try to mix it up and end up staying with Fox most of the time.
So when the WH comes out and singles out Fox – to me, that lends credibility to Fox as a news organization. If you look at the ratings I am not alone.

If Arlen Specter saved the country, then reward him with a long deserved retirement. Then maybe he’ll leave Washington and actually get to see the recession that we are not supposed to be in.