Could Roland Burris Block Reid’s Health Care Bill?

Burris is not the issue, what is becoming the issue is that DEMOCRATS DO NOT HAVE 60 SEATS IN CONGRESS – LIEBERMAN IS AN INDEPENDENT. One who campaigned for John McCain and, if he scuttles health care at the request of his state’s powerful insurance lobby, one who is not a Democrat. He didn’t run as a Democrat, wasn’t elected as one, doesn’t call himself one, and is rapidly proving NOT to be one.
Democrats don’t have the supermajority needed to get the public option through, even if all the D’s hold together.

Every politician I hear talking about reform says we must get healthcare cost down. Every plan I hear about either raises taxes, with the cadilac tax, taxes on medical devices and medical test and those insured now as well as their employers will pay higher premiums to cover these new taxes. Raising these cost raises the cost of healthcare doesn’t it? I support reform, I support helping those in need but I ask;
WHY ARE SO MANY MEN AND WOMEN TELLING SO MANY LIES?

roland like joe is just looking for a little press. everyone knows these guys are idiots. time for rahm to pay them a visit.

Reconciliation…get ready!!!!

Burris is not the issue, what is becoming the issue is that DEMOCRATS DO NOT HAVE 60 SEATS IN CONGRESS jhw539 ?>>>>>>And democrats dont have a plan they can point to that people even WANT. All that is happening is a bunch of criminals are trying to cram health care REPLACEMENT down our throats again. They cant FIX medicare which is 37 TRILLION out of budget. They cant fix social security which is BROKE. Now they want to add another HUGE system that they can get kickbacks from?
Where is the transparency EH? LIARS. OBAMA and the CONGRESS LIES. They dont want this for our good. They want this to buy their BOOTS on our throats.
Reform is not an opening to create a huge new system that will increase costs for EVERYONE. YES the CBO stated it will cost all of you MORE.

Roland Burris should be in an orange jump suit picking up garbage by the side of the road- he is very creepy and a liar who should have been charged with perjury. But since he is a Democrat and Black, lower standards are placed on him and he is not held accountable for his actions. In Illinois,he is a complete joke; he already has US Senator scrawled on his Tomb stone; he is a fool and a total embarasement to Illinois. Who really cares what he thinks of does; he is just keeping the seat warm for Congressman Mark Kirk, Republican to fill next year. Just leave the seat clean Roland not like your image.

Eight years of a Republican Administration that succeeded at nothing but starting illegal wars that killed thousands, destroyed Iraq and cost America Trillions. Whether the do nothing for Americans party (Repubs)like it or not, this administration will reform the healthcare industry.

After 8 years of swinging to the right we now swing to the far far left…. Funny how people want to blame Bushie and the Republicans for everything yet they forget the Democrats have run Congress since 2006 and they COULD have gotten rid of Bushie but Pelosi said NO !!!Dont worry ..just as Bushie wrecked our country ..Nancy and Bammy have a much bigger wrecking ball…..and after it hits you in your bank account you better hope you have some government benefits because you wont be able to afford decent health care. Dont blame us when you are fed up with paying for illegals and ll the lazy who have no incentive to get off their welfare checks and make a real contribution to our society. Obama has promised them a free ride and they are just salivating to jump on that magic carpet. You keep the change…we’ll keep our money and our self respect.

They need to stop think9ng about 60 votes, they won’t come, the GOP will lockstep as usual and the rogue democrats will resist just to resist. Go for the “50 Vote Plus Biden Strategy” described by the pusshead Gingrich, shove it down their throats.

Burris has proven he will take a bribe.
He will sign a bill without any public option with the right compensation for his future private life.

Chicagobob, i have read several of your posts and i have come to the conclusion that you are an ignorant, misinformed republican moron. You are against public options, so i take it you will not collect a dime of medicare. just like your great leader Mitch McConnell. oh yea, he does collect medicare. what a joke you and your party are. the conservative movement is dead, long live the republican party.

I find it so difficult to understand why anyone would be against the public option. Contrary to suspicious reports about the Canadian Health Care system, it works very well for us, and has, since 1959!. Don’t you find it interesting that the United States is the only industrialized country in the world not to have universal health care coverage?… Google the Iraqi Constitution, July, 2005. This document, drafted WITH the assistance of the Bush Administration, provides for Universal health care for all Iraquis, government funded – as a right! If this concept is considered a benefit to that country’s citizens, why would it not be offered to yours? I have had many medical procedures, and my bill, ZERO! Our service is not income related. My family does not have to worry about bancrupty, or foreclosure due to health care costs, or any “pre-existing” conditions. My care (cancer included) has been timely, appropriate and excellent.(cancer free).
If we can do it, and Iraq can do it, you should be able to do it very well!

Even with our faults here in the US—–people from all over flood over here for care because simply our health care system is #1 in the world despite the communist lies to the contrary. Allowing Obama’s socialists to take over would inevitably raise taxes and lower care—in other words, we would be paying far more by thousands each year to receive far worse care.

Hell, to see how bad care would be here for communist/socialist/marxist Obama care—all one do is look to Massuchuettes that now has the public care option…..that has ran far out budget leading to RATIONED CARE ALREADY. Completely stupid to want to grow it on a bigger scale. Obama wants this nonsense to have a reason to up taxes and control more of people’s lives. Communists have long said controlling health care was a major way to controll people. Frankly, I don’t want to be controlled and am really tired of Obama with his hands in purse trying to always steal my wallet.

I see/pick my own doctor… (and never entered your foolish lottery). I HAVE had excellent cancer treatment, thank you very much, and am 10 years cancer free. I was diagnosed with ovarian cancer on FRIDAY, – ultrasound that same day and operated on on MONDAY and to cancer clinic as soon as recovered from surgery. As far as Canadians going south to excellent treatment?????
that is another myth. BTW how popular is “health care tourism” to India, Thialand, Mexico and the Phillipines working for you guys? Check the World Health Organization’s stats to see where you rate with your #1????? (not) system.
I’m continually amazed at the “spin” and “foment” you guys put out. I travel to the U.S. and am happy to say that most Americans I interact with are much better with the truth that shows up on your posts.
I was speaking to a friend today, from Colorado,now living in Canada who shared with me how her neice in Colorado has been waiting for months to have tests and treatment for breast cancer, while my U.S. friend, now living here, had hers diagnosed and treated within days…. so research my friend… research.

I DON’T LIKE BACKSBBING PEOPLE WHO GOT IN OFFICE AND REFUSE TO HELP THE NATION, BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT TO PAST A BILL. TO ME THAT IS CRAZY. AND THAT NOT RIGHT. HE KNOWS THAT THIS HEALTHCARE BILL IS INPORTANT, TO THE PEOPLE AND OBAMA WHY FAIL EVERYONE NOW PLEASE WAKE UP AND UNDERSTAND THAT THE TIME IS NOW NOT LATER.

why is Burris even the subject of this blog? The problem is with Joe Lieberman. What a jerk! He caucuses with the Democrats but votes against all of their proposals. Why doesn’t he just cross over the aisle and join the Republicans, he loves them soooo much!
The original plan for universal health care was a good one but every single Republican + Lieberman and some Confederate Democrats said no, no, no.
The present health care plan is a mish-mash, diluted just to keep Olympia Snowe happy, but it’s not enough. The powerful insurance lobby has passed enough money around to prevent a good bill. When it’s all over, the private insurers will win again. Your premiums will increase and your benefits will go down. And of course, the Republicans + Liberman will blame it on the president.

The anticipated increased cost of employer provided health insurance, the increased cost of utility expense caused by Cap and Tax, a $1.4 Trillion dollar deficit, automatic union check off, 35 mpg fleet mileage mandate that cannot be met, expiration of the Bush tax cuts including the 55% inheritance tax, etc. have most businesses STOPPED and laying off workers. If we want the economy to improve and people to be back to work we have to defeat this stuff.

“Every time this health care bill seeems dead the stock market and economic data rebound” – Explain exactly how stock shares of the insurance corporations going down hurts us regular folks? I would be very happy if Wellpoint, Aetna, United Healthcare, etc would just go belly up. Last year their CEOs made over $5,000,000 each in salaries while fighting reform tooth and nail. Meanwhile, folks are dying due to lack of healthcare. Insurers too big to fail? How about too corrupt and bloated to let stay in business.

“Explain exactly how stock shares of the insurance corporations going down hurts us regular folks? I would be very happy if Wellpoint, Aetna, United Healthcare, etc would just go belly up. Last year their CEOs made over $5,000,000 each in salaries while fighting reform tooth and nail. Meanwhile, folks are dying due to lack of healthcare. Insurers too big to fail? How about too corrupt and bloated to let stay in business. ”
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Wow! So you have no problem with the 100s of thousands of hard-working American citizens who work for insurance companies joining the unemployed?
So you really don’t care about the many middle-class citizens who own stock in insurance companies. It’s OK if they become suddenly broke?
And what about the millions of American citizens who rely on those health insurance companies to help pay their medical bills? Who cares if they have to stop cancer therapy. So what if they die from lack of medical care, right?
Health insurance companies are not all evil, vampire-like monsters. There are a few companies that are idiots, Golden Rule comes to mind. And there are some very bad management policies.
But there are also very decent, caring people who go to work everyday to do the best they can to serve their customers.
And no, I don’t work for a private insurance company. I have had to fight a few skirmishes to get some claims paid.
I have, however, been the recipient of excellent service. My insurance carrier was there for me when I had cancer a couple years ago. Their case management nurses exceeded their required duties to ensure I was well-informed and received the best care for my cancer.
So please…stop demonizing an entire industry just to support your own political viewpoint.

why is Burris even the subject of this blog? The problem is with Joe Lieberman. What a jerk! He caucuses with the Democrats but votes against all of their proposals. Why doesn’t he just cross over the aisle and join the Republicans, he loves them soooo much!
The original plan for universal health care was a good one but every single Republican + Lieberman and some Confederate Democrats said no, no, no.
The present health care plan is a mish-mash, diluted just to keep Olympia Snowe happy, but it’s not enough. The powerful insurance lobby has passed enough money around to prevent a good bill. When it’s all over, the private insurers will win again. Your premiums will increase and your benefits will go down. And of course, the Republicans + Liberman will blame it on the president.
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First: Burris is the topic of this blog because this article is about Burris. OK?
Second: Senator Lieberman can vote anyway he pleases…he’s an Independent.
But then, all Senators can vote anyway they please….being Democrat or Republican does NOT mean you have to march lock-step with the party on every vote.
May I suggest a little research along the lines of 8th grade civics lessons.

“The fact is that the so call Health Plan is a disaster for everyone.”
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I have to disagree with you on principle. Since we haven’t any real idea of what the public option will look like, how can we say if it will work or not?
For instance:
How much will the premiums be?
Will premiums be set one-size-fits-all?
What are the actual income figures that will govern whether a person or family gets help paying the premiums?
How much deductible?
How much co-insurance: percentage or fixed?
How about co-pays?
Will there be limitations to benefits: so many visits a year, so many of each diagnostic tests?
Will there be out-of-pocket limitations? If so, ow much will that be?
When they say coverage for pre-existing conditions, exactly what does that mean? Many private insurances cover pre-existing with delays of 6-12 months before services will actually be paid for. Will those with pre-existing have to pay more for the coverage?
Those are just a few questions any reasonable person would want to know. I’m sure other folks can come up with many more.

” But why mess with the 85% who are happy with their healthcare!??”
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that’s fuuny, I’d like to see the poll that says every covered person in America is happy with their coverage.
I’m wondering if a person who could make such a ridiculous statement could get their head out of their butt long enough to provide such proof to begin with…….

But why is it that liberals constantly harp that if a Republican doesn’t agree with PART of the health insurance reform issue, then they MUST NOT agree with ANY part?
The above rant is so childish it’s ludicrous. What does not supporting a poorly defined public option in the proposed health insurance reform issue have to do with Medicare?
It is possible, you know, to agree with some things the feds do but still have valid, logical reasons to disagree with other things.
This rant appears to state that if a citizen doesn’t agree to everything the federal government proposes then the citizen gives up all rights as an American.
Let’s debate, but please engage the brain first.
Posted by: malcat | Oct 29, 2009 4:11:53 AM
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I think the point the original poster was trying to make (though not approached very well) is that conservatives throw around the term SOCIALISM toward evrything they don’t agree with. You call everything Democrats propose as pushing our country toward being a socialist state.
At the same time you pretend to despise socialism you collect medicare, you collect social security, you send your kids to public schools and such. What is more socialistic than that?
So lets be honest, it isn’t the thought of a public healthcare plan that bothers you. It’s a public healthcare plan proposed by Democrats, and more than likely Obama, that you disagree with.

“So lets be honest, it isn’t the thought of a public healthcare plan that bothers you. It’s a public healthcare plan proposed by Democrats, and more than likely Obama, that you disagree with.”
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I’m amazed that you presume you can read my mind. Here’s a tip….about me and many fellow conservatives and/or Republicans (not necessarily the same), you are wrong. Is it because you hate us or just sheer ignorance?
I do not oppose a public option. In fact, I hope it’s a darn good one because I will lose my current coverage with my employer. They and most large employers will drop coverage just as fast as they can.
I do not categorically oppose President Obama on everything. I use common sense, my own values, and consideration of the country as a whole to determine whether any administration’s policies are good or bad.
I suggest you and all Americans do the same. Doesn’t matter which Party has the WH, not to me. How about you?
You, Skippity, are part of the problem because you are blinded by your own prejudice against people who dare to oppose the President on ANYthing.
Perhaps you are just relishing the fact that your Party is in power. Tell me, did you really hate President Bush that much….or just because he was Republican?
Did you give him a chance starting January 2001, or instantly start condemning him for everything he did? How fast did you buy into the theory that 9/11 was his fault? Have you read the 9/11 commisson’s report? The 9/11 plot was in the works prior to January 2001. Did you know that? Did you care?
My beloved grandmother always told me, “Be careful about pointing a finger, because there are 3 pointing back to you.”

now on to important things like John and Kate :-)
good luck Malcat

I very much doubt the Sen. Burris is going to hold up any vote for health care reform. He is nothing more than one of the boys, he will do what he is told to do. He is to close to the president not to.

I don’t see the Health Care Bill with or without the Public Option becoming reality. There are enough versions to cause an everlasting debate. The Democrats are worried period, not only about the bill getting passed, but the 2010 elections and how their constituants will express their feelings at the polls.

We need more people in the Senate like Burris! Democrats who don’t support the public option need to be purged.

now he wants you to make love to the pig!

Make a statement before you leave the Senate… say no to socialist health care that wont insure everyone anyway so that should show you its not really about us…its about paying back Obamas rich backers…. hes lied to you many times and he will continue..stop this madness..