Heather Graham Pitches Public Option

An awesome ad. Makes the point succintly.

MoveOn, is not a group who represents what is best for America.
We need centrist thinking, and not “lobbyist” thinking, in government, right now.
We need what is best for the country, and not what is best for special interest groups.
The ONLY public option, that will be GOOD for the country, is National Health Care for everyone. Anything less will be more costly, than what we have now.

This add lied, it said 70 percent agree? Once again this administration is making up it’s own poll numbers. If only we could do a national vote for this, where everyones opinion was counted! No seniors want this, it’s taking away from medicare! I don’t want this as it’s going to raise my private insurance rates! Heather’s a great actress I admire very much but this is not swaying the truth for me. Chamber of Commerce is now on his blacklist because they don’t agree with his agenda. Since then thier membership has skyrocketed in defiance of the dictator obama! He cannot strong arm the people like this, there will be those moving their companies overseas, others just closing and retiring with their profits, Dr’s retiring early or just changing fields. Why go through 12 years of school when you’ll get paid the same as someone who did 8? How blind can people be? This should take years to plan and put together, I don’t understand the rush!!! It’s all partisan, a liberal agenda. It will be the downfall of our economy and the dollar will plunge! Then what will the lazy do when there is no money to feed them? Work like the rest of us? Doubt it… Step 1. Cut Welfare to a 3 year max! Enough supporting the leaches of society! Next step fix medicare and social security! After that then begin to reform healthcare. This is all a political lie to the american people!

Want competition?…then remove the laws prohibiting it across state lines.
The government doesn’t even know how to run a government, let alone an insurance company.
More government hasn’t been the answer yet.

“It amuses me how people with so much money they could own a small medical facility if they needed insist everyone else should be put in a substandard health care system.”
Matt | Oct 21, 2009 11:08:10 AM
You’re amused by how wealthy people who have no need of a public health care plan are willing to increase their own taxes for no personal benefit beyond caring for the poor and the synergistic societal ‘commons’ benefits that yeilds (ranging from making our businesses more competitive against overseas rivals with zero health care cost burdens to reducing personal bankruptcies that disrupt productive families)?
Yeah, that’s hilarious.

jhw539–…(4) requiring all large employers to contribute towards health coverage for their employees or towards the cost of the public plan;”-”BARACK OBAMA AND JOE BIDEN’S PLAN TO LOWER HEALTH CARE COSTS AND ENSURE AFFORDABLE, ACCESSIBLE HEALTH COVERAGE FOR ALL” available at the campaign website 2008***** Point 1. This will NOT cover EVERYONE, so that accessible health coverage for all is a LIE!!! On another note my Employer already covers majority of my benefits, so what’s your point there? And if you make small companies go with these regs guess what? They’ll close up and there’s more folks going to unemployment! There is no solid proof that this will lower healthcare costs! It’s all just speculation! With taxes already burdening the working class why put more on thier shoulders? And why should the rich pay for the useless lazy negligents of society? Most of these folks work 72 hours a week for those large wages and big bonuses. The key word: They Work!!! And abc blocked this 70% when I tried to research it. Hmmm… I wonder why? It’s a LIE!!! Why didn’t they go for something in between poll wise, no they lie to the people to make them believe his false doctrine. The bottom line is I don’t need this, 75% of people I speak to (many liberals) dont’ feel the national plan is needed (except everyone in the ghettos who say obama’s taking care of them and they dont’ need a job now)! Healthcare needs reformed yes but enough paying for the lazy slugs of society! Please answer me this, why is obama declaring war on Fox News, Chamber of Commerce, the Insurance Industry etc…? (meanwhile he puts our soldiers in Afghanistan on the frontline on his I’ll get to it later pile)And what happened to his transparency? Seems everything is being done behind closed doors! So much for the C-span camera’s! Another LIE!!! Can’t you see this, it’s all propoganda! He wants to turn our free country into a communist society! One question, have you ever been to a country that has universal healthcare? I’ve been to several while in the military and the truth is it’s an abomination! Our healthcare is the best in the world, period!!! Why do folks come from all over the world to the US for treatment? Because it’s the best!

interesting that none of the major news orgs reported about george soros (the $$$ behind moveon.org) buying a controlling interest in the brazillian petroleum giant, PETROBRAS, only days before the obama administration appropriated a few billion in taxpayer money to the company for…OFFSHORE DRILLING for oil off the coast of brazil. so, not only is the administration tossing taxpayer money to one of soros’ companies…it’s doing so to support something (offshore drilling) that it opposes domestically. yeah obama…yeah soros…yeah moveon.org.

The point that this only impacts “large employers” is nonsense. Is a large employer one like me with 100 $8 per hour employees? Or one with 20 employees that make $100K each? Fact is the way the define it the costs to me will be twice what I make in a year. Say good-bye to business and jobs.

…”The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 27% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -13. That’s just a point above the lowest level ever recorded for this President. It’s also the sixth straight day in negative double digits, matching the longest such streak.”
Posted by: Larreau | Oct 21, 2009 10:27:28 AM
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How about some perspective? Since the Rasmussen results deal with the ‘spread’ let’s see how they did in the 2008 election.
Obama / McCain / Spread – Poll
52.9 / 45.6 / 7.3 – Final Results
53 / 46 / 7 – CNN/Opinion Research
53 / 46 / 7 – Ipsos/McClatchy
50 / 43 / 7 – FOX News
52 / 46 / 6 – Pew Research
52 / 46 / 6 – Rasmussen Reports
It looks like Rasmussen came in 5th place. Interestingly, they were behind FOX news. And, CNN and Ipsos nailed the ‘final results’ and ‘spread’.
So, why are you so fascinated by the Rasmussen poll and not the others?

How sad it is to recall that nine months ago this president’s Approval Index was a +30; today it’s a -13. A negative swing of 43 points from the days of hope, of “no red states, no blue states, just purple states.”
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | Oct 21, 2009 11:19:48 AM
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The Rasmussen poll has four answers: ‘Strongly Approve’, ‘Somewhat Approve’, ‘Somewhat Disapprove’, and ‘Strongly Disapprove’.
Why is it that Rasmussen does not post ‘Somewhat Disapprove’ vs ‘Somewhat Approve’?
Is it because those percentages are diametrically opposed to the ‘Strongly Approve’ vs ‘Strongly Disapprove?

hilarious! 70% now want a public plan…pure fiction being fed to those living in their small little bubble.
look into blue shield/blue cross. very fair high deductible plans. i know, we have to buy our own insurance. be RESPONSIBLE for your life. why would anyone want government dictating anything to you.

the american people do not want socialized medicine, stupid.

Good to see that the left wing crazies have not chosen some shallow fluff item to shill for their program

Wow she’s good lookin! What was that video about?

I forgot to mention that ABC is doing it’s part today to recieve the Presidential Pat on the Head by playing Moveon ads for free.
You know ABC? The Former Nazi Collaborator George Soros who funds Moveon has plenty of money. You out to charge for this stuff.

Harry Ried,let it slip one night that this Healt bill would kill Medicare.

The Obama Brain Trust breaks out the big guns.

I like her better as Rollergirl. Back when she was smarter.

Chairman Mao would be proud

“Heather Graham, high school graduate and noted expert on public policy, renders her considered opinion on the issue of health care.”
Well golly, I’m convinced. What was I thinking, basing my objections to the plan on my own post-graduate education and experience in the field of economics?
If Felicity Shagwell is for it, so am I.

Sure, it’s just coincidence that we live in the most properous free nation the world has ever seen. Has nothing to do with our government. Everything the government created and/or operates is a disaster – interstates, the internet, Hoover dam, the FDA, public Universities (CA alone has a more prestigious university system than any other nation in the world), GPS, police departments, fire departments, water purity standards (anyone get Montazuma’s revenge from the faucet anywhere in the US? wonder why?), etc. What a disaster; I guess the Right is correct – America sucks. We need ANOTHER 8 years of them fixing it, right? I mean all those Bush tax cuts on the rich really goosed our economy just like they said – jobs for everyone, a rising tide, etc.
Posted by: jhw539 | Oct 21, 2009 11:39:37 AM
I see you convieniently forgot
Social Security=Bankrupt…. 21% of the fed budget
Medicare and Medicaid=Bankrupt….another 20% of the fed budget
totalling 1.2 trillion dollars
You also are connecting state funded/run programs, non gov’t run programs and federal programs…. no dice in that argument since it’s comparing apples to oranges to trucks.
The govt doesn’t “run” the internet. The internet is a mutual cooperation entity that relies on private groups to provide standards and procedure protocols. The government may run it’s own LAN (local area networks) but they dont control the internet.
And if the gov’t wants to run hoover dam so be it but they can keep their mitts of MY, MINE, MY OWN, NOT THEIR’s, I PAY FOR IT, I WORK FOR IT, IF I WANT IT I’LL BUY IT health care.

How sad it is to recall that nine months ago this president’s Approval Index was a +30; today it’s a -13. A negative swing of 43 points from the days of hope, of “no red states, no blue states, just purple states.”
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | Oct 21, 2009 11:19:48 AM
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The Rasmussen Poll has 4 answers as follows; 1) Strongly Approve, 2) Somewhat Approve, 3) Somewhat Disapprove, 4) Strongly Disapprove.
‘Total Approve’ and Total Disapprove’ are calculated from these. The Index = Approve-Disapprove.
‘Total’ was emphasized for Bush, whereas ‘Strongly’ appears to be used exclusively now for Barack.
The following, using Bush data from May 2008 and the most recent Rasmussen data, illustrates the ‘Rasmussen GOP Bias’ then and now using the 4 answers.
Bush
View / Somewhat / Strongly / Total
Approve / 19% / 13% / 32%
Disapprove / 18% / 47% / 65%
Index / 1% / -34% / -33%
Obama
View / Somewhat / Strongly / Total
Approve / 20% / 27% / 47%
Disapprove / 13% / 40% / 53%
Index / 7% / -13% / -6%
As you can see Bush’s ‘Index’ was better (even though still very bad) by “Emphasizing” ‘Total’.
And, Barack’s ‘Index’ is significantly worse by “using” ‘Strongly’.
But the most interesting thing is what ‘Somewhat’ says because that is where the ‘swing vote’ is!
Also notice in the ‘Somewhat’ that it is diametrically opposed to the ‘Strongly’.

Hot chicks and guys who like hot chicks are for the Public Option. If you are not for the Public Option, we know you are not hot.

Steve said:
“the american people do not want socialized medicine, stupid.”
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… except VA benefits, Medicare, and Medicaid.

I’m all for a public option… but the public sector (everyone paid by our tax dollars including congress) must personally opt for it.

Leo DiCaprio (as Howard Hughes) to Cate Blancette (as Katherine Hepburn)in the Aviator: Don’t talk down to me! Your’e a movie star, nothing else!

I don’t know about you guys, but I’m looking to forward to having a postal worker operate on my prostate.

Competition is good.
Having one competitor cheat, get subsides, and drive out all other competition to have a single-payer government run monopoly? even better I guess, since that’s the obvious outcome.
Because although competition is good, having government officials making major life decisions for you is necessary. Because you’re too stupid to make decisions for yourself.
Yes, there will be differences in services for politicians and the elite, graft, waste, and fraud (it is government after all, we can’t remove those) but since you won’t have a choice; it’ll be the best care you can get.
And, the government will force you to buy this “approved” insurance, or tax/fine you for not buying it. And if you find a plan outside the government approved one, be ready to pay a 40% tax on that one… to help pay for the government plan.
If they’d come up with this plan they could have helped GM much easier. Just force everyone to buy a GM built car, and put a 40% tax on cars made by non-government owned companies.
Problem solved… made better by “competition”, right? Odd that this is the new definition for “competition”… the guy who demanded protection money or he’d bust up my shop; is that “competition” now as well? I’m not sure I see how it could be anything else.

Must be lots of Republicans posting here. I see the words “no”, “stupid”, “socialist” and other ignorant drivel. The President is polling 50-55% depending where you look besides Rasmussen, who all credible pollsters dismiss out of hand and who is clearly biased for Republicans. The Public Option polled at 58%. A strong majority elected President Obama and a strong majority still support him. A strong majority want national health care. The 58% majority are intelligent enough to see why we need health care and understand that we are the only developed country in the world without national health. Lots of Bogus numbers here on this blog reported by republicans…but hey what do you expect? These guys watch Fox News everyday so they are getting their heads filled with lies and can’t tell the truth anymore. We will get National Health Care Reform whether the minority likes it or not. It’s called Democracy.

Wow…lots of hate, lies, racism, threats, bigoted comments..etc. I thought I was watching Fox News…but no….just a blog of angry hate filled people from confederate states.
I say bring it on Republicans. We will smoke you in 2010 and in 2012. We will fight your ignorance, bigotry, and racism and put an end to your Neanderthal Red Meat eating warmonger ways. The Majority still stand with President Obama and the Majority want/need national Health Care Reform.

I could move to CT and save $4,000 per year because of no mandates; allow me to get that policy without having to move. This is what liberals(Communists) do; make the situation worse for everyone and better for those in power. STAND AGAINST IT. The free market creates the capacity and the quality we love why would we destroy it!!!

Robert,
I live in California (not a confederate state). I am NOT a racist or a bigot and I dont hate you. Your “bring it on” battle cry is what’s wrong with our new agenda. It shouldnt be right versus left, but neither should we be afraid to offer opposition for fear of name calling. When our country can no longer offer different views, we cease being the “free” country my father fought for.

Great AD!! and guess what people……
Rules prohibiting price fixing, Don’t apply to health insurers……Really!?
I bet the American people don’t know that!!

I digress a bit…what’s really amusing is that way back it was the Hollywood elite that toured this country promoting the sale of war bonds to help finance WWII. Can you image ANY Hollywood type doing anything remotely this patriotic?

If all thefolks who are for public option just sponsor a family or two,pay their health insurance,we wouldn’t have a crisis.Time for them to put their money where their mouth is or just shut up!

I want the public option, and don’t know why all these republican naysayers, whose administration gave us two losing wars, a ruined economy and total disregard for the US constitution, think that they should still have their way on this health care option.
Obama won, fair and square, not even thru the supreme court making him the winner.
The leading cause of bankruptcy is health care costs. The government of almost every other westernized country has done this. We need a public option for healthcare in this country. It can work, and don’t be so silly and scared of it. Silly old scaredycat GOPers.