Is Bob Gates Leaning Towards a Troop Surge? Sure Seems Like It
ABC News' Martha Raddatz reports:
According to a U.S. official, the White House meetings on the Afghanistan-Pakistan strategy are beginning to change from the questions and answers and “structured conversations,” to “the point where people are showing their cards.”
Yes, a lot still has to happen. Gen. Stanley McChrystal still is going to make a personal appearance (probably the last week of October) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff might also be called in, leaving the final decision until probably the first week of November.
But from my vantage point, the tea leaves are getting much easier to read in the mug marked "secretary of defense."
It would be hard to argue that there is anyone with a more influential voice in this process of deliberating troop increases and strategy than Defense Secretary Bob Gates. President Obama deeply respects him, and as the civilian authority at the Pentagon his opinion resonates not only with civilians but the military. In short, it would be awfully hard for the president to go against the advice of his secretary of defense and his military commanders. There is no bigger one-two punch than the military and civilian power at the Pentagon.
While Gates has not said flat out that he is supporting McChrystal’s request for additional troops he appears to be leaving a trail of breadcrumbs that lead to that conclusion.
In the months building up to President Obama’s decision to rethink his strategy, Gates expressed hesitation about adding new troops, fearing the footprint of occupation. But if you look at his most recent statements, including those on "This Week With George Stephanopoulos" and in interviews with CNN's Christiane Amanpour and John King, he seems to be debunking his own arguments from months ago.
On everything including the footprint, his support for McChrystal, his feelings about the momentum being with the Taliban, the symbiosis between the Taliban and al Qaeda, and his strong support of counterinsurgency operations over the years, it seems pretty clear that he is not siding with Vice President Joe Biden. It appears that Gates is hiding his inclination towards adding more troops in plain sight.
Here are a few examples. I think you will see what I mean:
On “This Week,” defining victory:
GATES: I think we know it when we see it, and we see it in Iraq. I think that success in Afghanistan looks a great deal like success in Iraq in this respect – that the Afghan national security forces increasingly take the lead in protecting their own territory and going after the insurgents and protecting their own people. We withdraw to an over-watch situation and then we withdraw altogether.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Which first required a surge in Iraq.
GATES: It did require the surge. And that's the issue that we will be looking at over the next several weeks, the next couple of weeks or so, is: 'Do we have the right strategy?' And that includes the question of … 'Is McChrystal's approach, in the view of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Central Command commander, the right approach?' And if so, then what would be the additional resources required?
On Amanpour:
GATES: There’s no question in my mind that if the Taliban took large – took control of significant portions of Afghanistan, that that would be added space for al Qaeda to strengthen itself and more recruitment, more fundraising. But what’s more important than that, in my view, is the message that it sends that empowers al Qaeda. Al Qaeda, in many respects, is an ideology.
GATES: All I will say is, first of all, I think Stan McChrystal is exactly the right person to be the commander in Afghanistan right now. He was my recommendation to the president to lead this effort, and I have every confidence that no matter what decision the president makes, Stan McChrystal will implement it as effectively as possible.
On John King:
GATES: So I think that the notion of timelines and exit strategies and so on, frankly, I think, would all be a strategic mistake. The reality is failure in Afghanistan would be a huge setback for the United States. Taliban and al Qaida, as far as they're concerned, defeated one superpower. For them to be seen to defeat a second, I think, would have catastrophic consequences in terms of energizing the extremist movement, al Qaeda recruitment, operations, fundraising and so on. I think it would be a huge setback for the United States. I think what we need is a strategy that we think can be successful and then to pursue it, and pursue it with confidence and resolution.
KING: You mentioned the history, and you're a student of history, and you're on the record talking about how this did become a quagmire for the Soviets, who had about 120,000 troops in Afghanistan. And you have said many times the Afghan people began to view them as occupiers, not as friends. Where's the line for the United States so that you don't cross that very same line?
GATES: Well, I think the analogy of the situation with the Soviets really doesn't hold. The Soviets' presence in Afghanistan was condemned by virtually every country in the world. They conducted a war of terror against the Afghans. They probably killed one million Afghans, made five million of them into refugees, tried to impose an alien social and cultural change on the country. So the situations are completely different. And I think that the … Afghans continue to see us as their ally and partner.
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Can’t wait to hear all of the libs justify this BUSH officals war mongering… The excuses will begin in 3…2…1…
Posted by: jafo | October 15, 2009, 12:14 am 12:14 am
why not team with russia to defeat them
Posted by: jeff | October 15, 2009, 12:16 am 12:16 am
The Afghan people do not need any more suffering and they will suffer under the Taliban. A surge, like in Iraq, should help to keep the thugs at bay. Give our troops more resources, give the Afghanis a chance at a somewhat normal life.
Posted by: mad dog | October 15, 2009, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Oh so repeat the same strategy that defeated the Communist? Pour more money and troops and occupy Kabul… Hmn, okay… So what about the REST of the country!
The terrain of the country and it’s size is impossible to control. If we can’t even secure Kabul, HOW can we “stablizie” the rest of the country.
It’s too vast, too remote and the people are to klan-ish to conquer. Don’t you remember the quote: “Never go to land war in Asia!” These places are the last resting burial place of many empires and their armies.
Can we for once LEARN from history instead being anxious to repeat it? I thought Obama was supposed to be SMARTER than THAT!
I mean Gates and Brezinzski CREATED Al-Qaeda and Pakistani ISI created the Taliban. In a sense we are at war with our OWN CIA trained proxy armies!!!
Can we just STAY HOME, out of other people’s buisness for once! In case you haven’t noticed, we don’t have the forces, the international support, OR THE MONEY to do ANY of this!!!
We are BROKE and OUR borders aren’t even secure! Why pay to bomb and build bridges overseas when ours right HERE are falling down!!!
This isn’t change… This policy and escalation of hostilties is a JOKE on America, and a great sin committed against the Armed Forces of the United States who swore an oath to defend America, and not die protecting poppy fields and pipelines… like Pat Tillman… FOR SHAME!
Posted by: jafo | October 15, 2009, 1:08 am 1:08 am
Let us never forget the people who were forced by relatives of these jackasses to jump to their deaths from burning skyscrapers. Let us never forget our vow of vengeance for the atrocities of that day. Give us the type of courage that was mustered in the plane over Pennsylvania later that morning. Dear God allow us to vanquish our enemies completely. Amen.
Posted by: Bulldog | October 15, 2009, 4:21 am 4:21 am
This guy says that we probably can’t win this war because of government corruption, so what is the point of sending more troops.
Posted by: tamsam07 | October 15, 2009, 4:22 am 4:22 am
Bulldog, let us also never forget the poor Service Members that have been deployed over and over and over and over and have no more fight left in them. How much longer do you think they can keep doing this before they just all break? These men and women are not friggin robots, they are real live human beings with families. I know…..I’m married to one and one more deployment will kill him.
Posted by: tamsam07 | October 15, 2009, 4:24 am 4:24 am
We should all honor and respect the job that our service members are doing for us and thier families. However, leaving now will certianly allow the terrorist to claim they defeated the US and provide them all the means necessary to plan, recruit and train so they can kill more Amaricans. 3,000 dead, we cannot allow this to happen again.
Posted by: Texan2112 | October 15, 2009, 6:48 am 6:48 am
It’s about time, America considered recruiting an american foreign legion, get smart like the French have been for year’s and get foreigner’s to fight your dirty little half war’s for a fraction of the cost on tax payer’s!!!
Posted by: Kevin | October 15, 2009, 7:13 am 7:13 am
What people are overlooking is that Afghanistan is nothing like Iraq. Iraq had something that resembled a government before we invaded. Yes Saddam was bad, but there was not mass war, bombings, and other unrest. So to fix it, we needed the surge as the people needed to return to some sort of civil society. Also, people trusted us more. Afghanistan, however, knows only lawlessness. the people do not trust us. The terrain creates problems, and the elected Gov’t is corrupt. These are all signs of more dead Americans should we send over more troops.
That said, we have our backs against the wall with no other choice but to commit. Deliberating is just delaying the obvious. They should commit the troops, but reallocate Iraq’s resources and take action in Pakistan and Afghanistan, instead of just one. I think the committed number should be more than requested, but half for Afgan and half for Pakistan.
Posted by: DB | October 15, 2009, 7:17 am 7:17 am
Yes we should commit more troops to afganistan but pakistan has nuclear power so we better ask them if they want us in their country.
Posted by: earl | October 15, 2009, 7:42 am 7:42 am
Whaaaat? Georgie is admitting the surge worked???? That he and all the other libs including Obama were wrong???? Wow what a short memory they have, if it had been up to them we would have surrendered.
Posted by: sammy | October 15, 2009, 8:46 am 8:46 am
Thank you Bob for bringing some common sense to the chaos.
Posted by: sammy | October 15, 2009, 8:48 am 8:48 am
How about confronting jihad ideology?
How about stopping the spread of Saudi funds to build mosques and cultural centers in the U.S., Canada, and Western Europe where radical ideologies are taught?
How about building some nuclear plants here in the U.S. to reduce dependence on foreign oil(seems like it’s ok according to this Administration for Iran and North Korea to build nuclear power plants but we cannot)?
Posted by: ConstantXI | October 15, 2009, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
jafo – OF COURSE WE CAN STAY HOME THAT IS NO BRAINER! PROBLEM IS THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STOP IN AFGHANISTAN OR PAKISTAN. THEY ARE COMING AFTER YOU HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. TRUST ME WHEN THEY GET HERE YOU WILL HAVE NO WHERE TO HIDE. THEY HATE LIBERALS IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE OF THEIR VIEWS ON HOMOSEXUALITY, MARRIAGE, ABORTION ETC. AS A FORMER US MARINE I JUST HOPE YOU ARE LEARNING TO DEFEND YOURSELF OR READING A LOT ABOUT THE KORAN AND MUSLIM CULTURE MAY BE JUST MAY BE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO FIT RIGHT IN, EVEN OUR COMMANDER IN CHIEF, B.O. HAS ALREADY STATED WE ARE A MUSLIM NATION!
Posted by: wizcat123 | October 15, 2009, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
IT’S IRONIC … BARAK OBAMA JUST RECEIVED THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE AND ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE… PERHAPS HE CAN JUST WAVE HIS NOBEL PEACE PRIZE IN FRONT OF THE TALIBAN AND ALQAEDA AND THEY WILL IMMEDIATELY SURRENDER … MAYBE HE CAN DONATE THE $1.4 MILLION HE RECEIVED FOR DOING NOTHING TO THE TALIBAN OR ALQAEDA ….
Posted by: wizcat123 | October 15, 2009, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
wizcat123 wrote: “BARAK OBAMA JUST RECEIVED THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE AND ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE… PERHAPS HE CAN JUST WAVE HIS NOBEL PEACE PRIZE IN FRONT OF THE TALIBAN AND ALQAEDA AND THEY WILL IMMEDIATELY SURRENDER”
He didn’t get the prize for the Taliban or al-Qaeda. He got it for replacing BUSH, who was a bigger threat to the world than the Taliban and al-Qaeda put together.
Posted by: The_Mick | October 15, 2009, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Why can’t the Germans take control of the war in Iraq, so we can concentrate on Afghanistan!
Thanks!
Posted by: Tonya | October 15, 2009, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
Bulldog | Oct 15, 2009 4:21:51 AM – Afghanistan has nothing to do with 9/11. All the evidence shows that 9/11 was an inside job – from planning to execution! Ding, ding – smell the coffee!!!
Posted by: Rafael49 | October 15, 2009, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
as Gate mentioned, if we leave, al Qaeda will have the chance to strengthen, recruit, energize operations, and fundaraise. We should not leave Afghanistan because if al Qaeda “take over” Afghanistan, they COULD take over the entire world if they were smart. If they “take over” AFghanistan, they could launch operations from there to other countries. If we didnt bother to help because, oh It doesnt affect us, then when it DOES affect us, we will have no allies, or anything because they have been taken over by the extremists!!!! lol that was intense….
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