New Poll: Public Option Up … GOP Down

The only polls that matter to Congress are in November of even years (unless you’re an insufferable wonk excited about redistricting). Health care at this point is coming down (again) to how many Senators the health insurance industry can buy.

I still wonder where these people are that support this public option. They certainly don’t live where I do.

Hey ABC, you cooking the books on the public option again? Don’t think they won’t come after you too if you
don’t tow the Obama line. Aren’t you tired of being told what to say? Call out the administration! You can do it. You did good when you asked the President about ACORN. That’s the tough questions we want.
Keep doing tough questions and your ratings will go way up.

BTW: Did Axelrod atleast look you in the eye while you were shining his helmet George?

Wow, what a surprise. This poll stands in contrast to pretty much every poll out there. Equally surprising is the fact the left is already cherrypicking the data as proof of support for Obamacare? His 57% approval rating? Gallup has him at 51%, Rasmussen 49%, Harris 45%… you get the point.
And what is even more absurd is the ridiculous 12% difference for the Democrats in the generic ballot. Again, every other polling organization has numbers that are totally different. Are we supposed to believe that the president has, according to this poll “lower than average approval ratings”, yet the Democrats are favored by even huger margins than they were during the elecion? This poll is totally bogus, and I would love to see how many Dems it sampled vs. Republicans.

“The other day I sat down and calculated that I and my family have paid about $500,000 in premiums over the years to insurance corporations. I did this after I read that the top three insurance company CEOs were paid salaries of over $7,000,000 each last year. ”
The one who will be called a leech is the government. You’d have paid much more than $500k to the government, and the money would have just gone to the unions.

“those who just have to have a Government option please visit a Nursing home where the patient has only medicare or medicais as payment. It will open your eyes.” – Have you? I have worked in hospitals for over ten years and have never seen a single patient who was kicked out of Medicare while I have seen folks with private insurance kicked off their plans when they contracted a serious illness. The only thing “sure” about private insurance is that you can’t count on it if you get really sick.

You didn’t poll anyone in my state. Far more than 20% of Americans are Republican. Don’t believe it? Watch the mid term elections.

My friends in New Mexico just told me, in that LIBERAL state, how the mayoral/council elections went this past month. They outed ANY DEMOCRAT they could. Even with some they probably shouldn’t have. Not looking good.

If you believe this poll- I have some land to sell you in China.

Comments from a doctor who deals with insurance, medicare, public aid, and HMO’s every day:
1. Have you ever applied for insurance and find out your “pre-existing condition” prevents you from getting insurance (not insurable), causes your rates to be double the guy sitting next to you who is the same age, or be told you may buy a policy, but they wont pay for anything regarding the body part involved with your “pre-exisiting” condition even if it is a new problem?
If you say yes, you are not alone. This is a problem for millions of Americans.
2. Have you ever had good insurance with your job and then you lose your job
and you have no income to pay the cost of the Cobra or to buy individual ins?
3. Do you have a spouse with good insurance and he/she turns 65 and goes on medicare, but you are too young to qualify so you are left with no insurnce?
I’ve seen the above examples many times in my medical practice. There are so many more examples of gaps that occur with our current system,that it would takes pages to list them.
Tens of millions of Americans are without health insurance and most of them simply can’t afford it.
Plus, the healthy people who think they don’t meed coverage still get care in the emergency room/hospital when they have catastrophic problems (accidents, surgical emergencies etc). medical bills are probably the top cause for bankrupcies int he US.
We may not agree on the solution. but everyone has got to agree there are major problems with the current system.

Once again ABC (by the way, there was a time I liked your news), you are out of touch with MOST people in this country. Or, you are simply printing and reporting what you are directed to do. Get back in the game…go back to being a real news reporting organization.

Every news cast you look at seems so bias…. Look around you unemployment is really at near 17%. yOUR POLLS STINK WHO ARE YOU POLLING, THOSE ON PROGRAMS BY THE GOVERNMENT THAT THE REST OF US HAVE TO PAY FOR…..GET A LIFE COVER ALL THE NEWS…..NOT WHO YOU SIDE WITH…….ABC IS A JOKE LOOK AT YOUR RATINGSSSS……………

Everyone I know is against the public option except for college aged kids that have no sense about money or responsibilty after their liberal collegiate programming. It is clear to me that folks are sick of blood sucking people that can’t get themselves off the couch long enough to seek a free public education and learn how to do something other than complain about what they do not have because they are too lazy.Oh, and who the hell watches ABC news anyway? I only watch it so I can say I at least tried to stomach it.You ABC guys are a bunch of weenies doing Anita’s bidding.

If you don’t like what ABC reports then why are you reading their news? You wouldn’t catch me reading or watching FOX news. I wouldn’t waste my time.

Again ABC promotes the liberal media bias, once again. The only true answer to this is happening every day in lower ratings for you and NBC, CBS CNN, MSNBC, N.Y. Times, Washington Post. All of America will be better off without your liberal left-wing scum. I can’t wait to celebrate the day when ABC goes belly-up, Your editor needs to take a refresher course in journalism to find out what it truly is. Or, if not watch FOX news and learn what it is to be a journalist again.

George,
What is going on?

George, Id love to believe that poll but after Ms. Dunn proudly said the administration controls the mainstream media so how can we believe anything you put out there. How do we now that any information you report isn’t the Whie House telling you what to tell us. See once you lose your reputation it is hard to believe what is fact or fiction.

Another gerrymandered poll from ABC and the WashPo.
It’s like clockwork at this point.
Gallup, Rasmussen show Obama plummeting and a majority of Americans against the plans being proposed by Congress and here comes ABC/WashPo with this garbage.
Now I have to wait 2 weeks for the RCP average to excrete this outlier poll from its’ average.

This is more like a news story from the
Onion.

The whitehouse says they control what ABC reports and that we should not watch Fox news because they don’t control them. So when we see a poll like this, what is the probability that it is accurate? ZERO. You are pushing the Democrat agenda and not credible.

Does it bother you that you are losing your credibility by promoting such obviously manipulated polls? Is it that important to support the administration that you are willing to threaten your integrity? I thought you were better than that.

I don’t watch you anymore because FOX News is the only media that tells the truth to the people of the good ole USA.

If it’s Sunday it’s This Weak (Poll that is).

“Common sense tells us that the private insurance industry is ripping us off because they can. They don’t have any competition. A public option will keep them more honest as well as providing affordable insurance, something the private health insurance industry refuses to do.”——–
The public option will be no different from Medicare, Medicaid or private insurance. ANY insurance plan MUST contain costs…as in how much do they pay out for claims.
I worked for a Medicare contractor for 20 years and currently work for a Medicaid contractor. I’ve worked for and with private insurance companies. They ALL do the same thing.
I’m a medical data analyst. My job is to manipulate and analyze claims data. One of the principal uses of that data is to identify the following: fraud, overtilization, and where the plan is paying out more money than whomever controls the plan wants to spend.
The public option will not be self-sustaining without extreme control of costs AND high premiums. If they do not do those 2 things, we the taxpayers will have to keep giving it more money from the general fund. Can you say ‘bailout’? … after bailout …. after bailout.

George,
I am a conservative. Although it appears most conservatives don’t support the public option, I most certainly do. I really don’t understand how anyone wouldn’t support it especially when we are pouring 10 billion a month in Iraq. Also, I don’t understand how anyone can support the insurance company’s having the right to deny folks with preexisting conditions. I was listening to S Hannity on the radio today and he was so upset because of the public option, and after that I just had to tune out.
thanks George!

George,
Break free. You are showing your bias here. Unfortunate that you have bought the White House propaganda hook, line and sinker. I used to think you were at least a little toward the center. This past year shows a different side of you. Follow the party line…….no wonder you and ABC have lost so many viewers. Keep it up and you’ll have nothing left.

if a simple majority is required to pass something like this through congress- hold onto your seats, because the new political climate will be tossing back and forth through legislation til we all receive whiplash from it and dont know which end is up. each party will overturn the former party’s accomplishments and enact their own with simple majorities. and if this is the “emergency” that is required, then everything will become an emergency. if we let this get started, there is no stopping it. and we will all be letting ourselves in for serious dissapointments in our government.

This poll must’ve been conducted using only ABC staff members.

Today I called my cable company and told them I am no longer paying for FOX LIES.Apparently they had received many calls lately asking to drop fox and agreed I shouldn’t have to pay for propaganda.

“Today I called my cable company and told them I am no longer paying for FOX LIES.Apparently they had received many calls lately asking to drop fox and agreed I shouldn’t have to pay for propaganda.”—–
All I can to this is “Yeah, right.”

George, we don’t believe you. Simple as that.

A health care bill without a public option is meaningless, just as price fixing among health insurers is as regards to cost control. The non-competitiveness of health insurers is the reason for the escalation of health insurance costs.

George- Please lead a campaign at ABC news to explain insurance pricing to the American public. They did a good job on This American Live last week, but that is a small audience. The bottom line is that few politians understand this. When more insurance companies are competing, the hospitals actually charge them more money. Obama talks about “greedy” insurance companies. How about people with 0 business experience running a national economy?

Is it clever math that has more people supporting a public option than support “nanny state” healthcare?
Somehow it doesn’t compute, unless the poll questions were worded as ambiguously as bond referendums nomally are asked!
Whatever one believes or supports, the truth is that our congress is not smart enough to balance the books, and has never done so. It currently blocks the automatic cuts that medicare requires in doctor payments to keep doctors from screaming or leaving the program. So there is a slim chance that reform will do better without rationing.
Also, don’t lose sight of the $1.4 trillion deficit and the $12 trillion national debt forecast to double in just ten years. If no-one comes up with a plan to mitigate the debt all this “nanny state” stuff is a moot point anyway.
There have been somewhat vague references to reducing the deficit in the out years. whatever that is supposed to mean. But not one in the WH or the congress has even hinted at a viable plan to mitigate the national debt. A reduced deficit even if true wouldn’t do it, a balanced budget wouldn’t do it unless a part of tat budget was a pay-down of the debt.
Someone has to face it or we are doomed to fall into a Chavez style nationalization and socialism. Maybe that’s the socialist mop Obama jests about, he is just breaking us in to the idea.

Here are some other recent polls showing support for a Public Option.
CBS News: “The much-debated ‘public option’ –a health insurance plan like Medicare administered by the government –- still gets majority support.
GOV’T HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN”
Favor 62%
Oppose 31
Quinnipiac: American voters “support key parts of the plan, including 61 – 34 percent for giving people the option of a government health insurance plan that competes with private plans…”
Pew: “Would you favor or oppose… A government health insurance plan to compete with private health insurance plans”
55 Favor
38 Oppose
Ipsos/McClatchy: “One of the points being debated is whether or not the government should create a public health insurance plan as an alternative to private insurance plans.
Which of the following is closest to your opinion?
53% It is necessary to create a public health insurance plan to make sure that all Americans have access to quality healthcare
42% Access to quality healthcare for all Americans can be achieved without having to create a public health insurance plan”
Even Rasmussen, choice pollster of conservatives, said: “46% favor the creation of a government-sponsored non-profit health insurance option that people could choose instead of a private health insurance plan. Thirty-seven percent (37%) are opposed.”

Health care needs to be fixed, not destroyed. If you support Obamacare you must also be in favor of being in bondage to the state.

George, Why not try reporting all the news instead of only what Big Daddy Obama pre-approves. You folks are pathetic. Where is the story on the Somalia terrorists who shot down a US unmanned drone aircraft?? You folks are pathetic….

When did we become a society of propaganda? I call on the press to be a free press of a republic society!!! I can’t as an individual afford to pay for everyone in this country to have free health insurance!!! I had to pay for my own son $450 a month for 10 yrs. so he could have health insurance during his teen years during the 90′s so he could be cured of cancer. I freely paid it as a great sacrifice to myself. But I could never afford this to pay for everyone else and neither can the government using my tax dollars.
We can’t be everything for everyone in tthis free society otherwise we’ll go bbankrupt. Medical services will aalways cost something. When will we be realistic about this concept?

George’s poll says one thing. Limbaugh’s poll says the opposite. At least Rush is honest about his bias.

These polling results are exceptional – exceptional in their deviationa from the results of other polling taken in the same period. I’m not ready to say “bias” – but I’m very close.

The dozens on left who watch MSNBC are telling the millions of Republicans, Democrats and Independents who disapprove of Obama and watch Fox News to know their place.
They want millions of Americans to stay in their corner and not point out the Fake Polls being used to propagandize for an unpopular plan.
There are statists throughout history who have hoped that the left in America would come to the point where they are today. A point where debate will not be tolerated and dissenters will be treated accordingly.

ABC news poll and ACORN poll,both bought by the Democrats.

The American public knows you haven’t read the bill. No one voting in Congress has read the bill. The media and the Congress are saying what they’re told to say. The American public knows you don’t have the life/job experience to write this legislation. You fool no one. Put private industry and free market insurance to work and it will have the same result as the rest of the free market.
Its not about healthcare. Its about control.

Well, one thing is for certain. This poll scared the hell out of the right-wing.
Squirm right-wingers, Squirm!

This poll does not jive with Rasmussen’s poll. They have it at 54% opposed to Obamacare and only 42% for it. You guys dont think ABC would stretch the truth do you?????

I love to see the right wingers squirm. Teh first poll showing an uptick always gets this kind of reaction. Then a few days later even Fox has numbers moving in the same direction and they switch from blaming the media to insulting their fellow Americans. Reading these comments makes it clear why so few people want to call themselves Republicans. If they hear news that doesn’t fit their view of the universe they go bat sh!t crazy.

I watch FAUX all the time.
Keep your friends close…and your ememies closer!
I can’t hang with Beck and Limbaugh for more than 5 minutes though.

No mention whether the poll asked about the Democrats in Congress – it was GOP Congress vs Obama in terms of getting things done.
Congress’ overall approval rating is lousy. Why not ask if support the GOP Congress or the DEM Congress? That would seem to be the fair comparison. Perhaps ABC did ask that – I do not know.
But I saw the story on last night’s news – and thought then that the poll was bogus. GS seemed almost giddy in reporting the results – pretty pathetic, even for network news.

Inchargenow, you really need to start watching FOX, if not you will be in shock if (doubtful) Obama and his cronies pass this healthcare deal……Beck got rid of Van Jones, Hannity will get rid of Kevin Jennings, and Glenn really has it in for Valerie….we can say good by to all…..FOX ROCKS

David, without Medicare, where would those people be?

George,Axlerod already has the White House,dog washer job,now maybe there is a place for someone to walk,and pick up after the pooch that is still open?…Where is the story about the 247 billion the democrats promised to the medicare doctors if they promised to support Obamacare???? Where are they trying to hide the cost of this health care reform??

Fact check. Rasmussen poll. Favor govt. option 42% Oppose govt. option 54% of Americans. Seems like good ole ABC and the Post are trying to cook the books.

I see Geroge and the pollers are do a selected poll so they get the numbers they want. Most polls show strong oppition to the public options. This trying to control the polls may work with the total like of true news reporting these days. Anyway I have found only 1 person who supports a public option and he only supports it if Obama does. If obama says no we don’t need a option then he says no we don’t need it. A true worshipper

Public option is fine…..if it covers everyone.

“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.” Joseph Goebells, Nazi Germany. And you can’t blame the President for the capitulation of the news media, for as they say, you can’t rape the willing….and the Main Stream Media is eager AND willing!!

…How can 57% support a public option when only 45% support healthcare reform overall?
Today, October 20, 2009, 51 minutes ago | bct
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Conversely, how can only 45% support healthcare reform overall when 57% support a public option?
Could it be that ‘Monetary Consideration’ is battling ‘Moral Duty’ in the minds of people?

Jake Tapper showed strength and resolve in questioning the Obama administration’s attempts to suppress Fox News. Jake will very likely be reprimanded or fired by ABC News and he will lose out on any future Obama administration interviews; but Jake was aware of the consequences and concluded that being an American was far more important. Jake now has my respect. ABC News needs to follow Jake’s lead; as opposed to following the lead of a White House Communications Director, who announced publicly in front of an audience of high school students, that her mentor is Mao Tse Tung.

How can these polls be accurate when even republican politicians in NJ are beating the Dem candidate. It seems like every place you look from coast to coast, a Republican is leading their race. Harry Reid down in Nevada. Spector down in PA. Deeds down in VA. Corzine down/tied in NJ. These are all Dems who are going to be fighting for their life come next election cycle. So, if people are so happy with Obama and the Dems, why aren’t Dems leading in these states? Don’t pay much attention to the ABC/Wash Post polls. They are obviously slanted.

Dan Carruthers said, “The ABC polls are way out of sink with REAL polls, which is not a suprise. Right now the public favors the GOP over the Dems by 5 points.”
I don’t know what a wash basin has to do with polls, but Rasmussen is way out of sync with his 5 point GOP lead.
Generic Congressional Vote
51/39 (Dem +12) ABC News/Wash Post
37/42 (Rep +5) Rasmussen Reports
46/33 (Dem +13) CBS News
46/44 (Dem +2) Gallup
Dan Carruthers said, “Obama’s approval index is double digit negative”
Rasmussen is out of sync with job approval rating too.
Approve/Disapprove/Spread
55/43/+12 CNN/Opinion Research
50/43/+7 Gallup
47/52/-5 Rasmussen Reports
57/40/+17 ABC News/Wash Post
49/45/+4 FOX News
53/41/+12 Marist
56/34/+22 CBS News
Dan Carruthers said, “56% DO NOT support the health care proposals of the Dems.”
That’s not what the ABC/WaPo poll said. It found that 56% support “a law that requires all Americans to have health insurance, either getting it from work, buying it on their own, or through eligibility for Medicare or Medicaid.”

I love how conservatives making comments on here act as if one can measure the quality of a news network based on the ratings they receive. Guess what? High ratings do not necessarily equal quality news. High ratings equal quality entertainment. The reason Fox News has such high ratings is because both liberals and conservatives watch it for entirely different reasons. Liberals watch it for the entertainment, which is the business Fox News is actually in.

It’s humorus to watch ABC try to slip one by us now. Here we have a former Clinton hack telling us that all the other polls are wrong, and people really do want big government to take over healthcare. This is a joke…right? George, we have sources now, we don’t believe YOU, why would you think we would believe your poll?