By Kristina Wong

Oct 5, 2009 7:07pm

Obama Instructs Federal Government to Reduce Pollution, ‘Lead by Example’

From Sunlen Miller: President Obama wants to the federal government to “lead by example” in reducing greenhouse gas pollution. So he’s setting strict targets for federal emissions, signed in an executive order today. The presidential executive order sets greenhouse gas emissions targets for federal agencies – attempting to reduce pollution from federal buildings, fleets, and even federal workers’ commutes by reducing fleet petroleum consumption; conserving water; reducing waste; supporting sustainable communities; and leveraging federal purchasing power to promote environmentally-responsible products and technologies.   The executive order requires agencies to “measure, manage, and reduce greenhouse gas emissions toward agency-defined targets.”  “As the largest consumer of energy in the U.S. economy, the federal government can and should lead by example when it comes to creating innovative ways to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, increase energy efficiency, conserve water, reduce waste, and use environmentally-responsible products and technologies,” said President Obama in a paper statement, ”This executive order builds on the momentum of the Recovery Act to help create a clean energy economy and demonstrates the Federal government’s commitment, over and above what is already being done, to reducing emissions and saving money.” The executive order also requires agencies to meet a number of energy, water, and waste reduction targets such as  a 30% reduction in vehicle fleet petroleum use by 2020; 26% improvement in water efficiency by 2020; 50% recycling and waste diversion by 2015 and 95% of all applicable contracts will meet sustainability requirements. The federal government occupies nearly 500,000 buildings, 600,000 vehicles, and employs more than 1.8 million civilians. -Sunlen Miller

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ANOTHER executive order? What’s he up to now, 25? Where are all the libs who went nuts when Bush signed a few executive orders?

Posted by: Ronnie Van Zant | October 5, 2009, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

Bad bad timing, Barry. Here’s an energy saving idea: if numerous high ranking government officials are traveling to the same foreign country for the same meeting, for example, in Copenhagen, they should travel together both ways on one big airplane. Consider having the highest government official in the land testify at that same meeting by video link rather than in person, saving not only lots of energy but also valuable time and money.

Posted by: GetReal | October 5, 2009, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

What an unbelievable hypocrite this man is.
Does he think Americans didn’t notice that he and the wife took seperate planes to Denmark.
They spent over a million of taxpayers money and left a massive carbon footprint.
Then there was datenight to NYC, a NYC flyover photo-op, and trips all over the country to continue campaigning.
One set of rules for the WH one for everyone else.

Posted by: ollie | October 5, 2009, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

So I guess Obama won’t be cranking up the heat in the WH hot enough to grow orchids–like last winter.

Posted by: larry | October 5, 2009, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

Where is the executive order to double flush the toilet to save water and energy?

Posted by: young_voter | October 5, 2009, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

===The federal government occupies nearly 500,000 buildings, 600,000 vehicles, and employs more than 1.8 million civilians.===
Decreasing the size of federal government would be a great way to achieve some of these goals.
Also, maybe the Environmentalist in Chief could vow to crank up AF1 only once every other week or so.

Posted by: MayBee | October 5, 2009, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

If Obama is going to lecture us again on how we can cut back then let them “lead by example” and stop wasting money and bankrupting the country.
Most Americans are cutting back on everything.
Obama is living the life of a rich celebrity and some of it on our dime–poor Michelle had to sacrifice by flying to Denmark with Oprah!
Lead by example and stop stuffing the pockets of rich supporters on Wall Street.
Who really believes the WH/Obama can lead anything?

Posted by: pami | October 5, 2009, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

How about cutting spending, President Hypocrite? The rest of us are.

Posted by: mesquito | October 5, 2009, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

The White House setting an example on how to scale back–now that’s funny.

Posted by: tyler | October 5, 2009, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

“ANOTHER executive order? What’s he up to now, 25? Where are all the libs who went nuts when Bush signed a few executive orders?”
Ronnie Van Zant | Oct 5, 2009 7:13:40 PM
Could you provide a specific citation of some of these liberals going nuts over executive orders? The JOB of the president is to issue Executive orders Head of the Executive branch, Executive orders – get it? It’s kinda his Constitutional job.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 5, 2009, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

Mr. Obama has clearly shown he can multi-task. Unfortunately, it seems Congress can not. Mr. President, you need to lazer like focus on two things:(1)Afghanistan; and (2) health care reform. For the next 90 days clear your personal calendar of everything else. You have talented people working for you. Time to delegate responsibly. It’s also time you made it clear to Sen. Reid and Spkr. Pelosi that you and the American people are sick and tired of nothing being accomplished in Congress. A press conference in which you explain that Congress should work five days a week, like the rest of us, instead of three would be helpful. Executive orders like this, a speech to the LGBT dinner, a kerfluffle over meeting the Dalai Lama, are only distraction ammunition for your opponents and the media. Get more rest, be more focused, and, frankly, be tougher. It’s past time that Congressional Democrats understood, like Republicans always do, who leads their party.

Posted by: B.Bear | October 5, 2009, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

Beyond the good PR, this makes good business sense. Many of the most extreme efficiency options take 10-25 years to “payback,” this means that after that 10-25 year period they are saving you money. A private business may not be able to confidently predict that they’ll be in a real estate asset 25 years down the road, but the government can. Installing triple element windows, condensing boilers, VFD chillers, and a solar DHW system would help the Feds save money down the road.
And this shouldn’t even be controversial; Bush Sr established the National Renewable Energy Laboratory, Bush Jr had PVs and solar hot water installed on the Whitehouse grounds. It’s basic good business for a long term property owner.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 5, 2009, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

This is just a prelude to the massive tax increases he has in store on the climate bill.. NEVER trust a Marxist

Posted by: everyone must use single ply tolietpaper | October 5, 2009, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

I’m sorry, I thought the title of this thread mentioned Obama challenged Federal employees to reduce pollution but upon reading the article he’s done nothing of the sort. “Carbon pollution” is the latest word play that the MSM willingly regurgitates without a blink. CO2 is not, was never and never shall be a pollutant! It’s a trace gas essential to all life on the planet. Enough already!!!

Posted by: Woody | October 5, 2009, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

B.Bear, I agree a laser focus is needed and that President Obama needs to step up and make his specific proposals clear to congress. However, I disagree with one of your two priorities for the president. One should indeed be Afghanistan– time is of the essence to be sure. The other, however, should not be health care (at least not the current health insurance reform morass) but the economy in general. He should insist that Congress quickly send him spending bills for the year that are fiscally responsible, and veto any that are larded up with pork projects. Then he should focus on job creation and finishing the job of cleaning up the financial mess still with us from last fall– mortgage relief is not working particularly well, new financial regulations have not been put firmly in place, etc. THere is indeed much to do and I think there is bipartisan support for getting it done.
Yes, I’m serious about the bipartisan statement. If he makes the right moves on AFghanistan, Republicans will back him up. I can see McCain, Graham, Snowe, and others supporting him on sensible financial regulation and other measures to help the economy. Health care reform can wait until the economy is back on firmer footing– then we can fight over whether more than a targeted move to provide insurance for the 8 to 10 million who truly need help obtaining health insurance (as opposed to those millions eligible for SCHIp, Medicaid, or Medicare who are not enrolled, those who can afford insurance but choose not to carry it, and those who are not legally eligible for assistance) and an concentrated effort to fix the financial problems that exist for Medicare/ Medicaid now.

Posted by: moderate | October 5, 2009, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

“CO2 is not, was never and never shall be a pollutant!”
More than one dictionary I checked defines a pollutant as a waste product of human activities, so CO2 is definitely a pollutant by definition.

Posted by: Skip | October 5, 2009, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

We global temperatures are in decade long cooling trend.
Dump Letterman.

Posted by: Mace | October 5, 2009, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

Is he going to ground Al Gore?

Posted by: drjohn | October 5, 2009, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

i think its a great idea and have waited too long for this.. hope he instals solar bipv on the Fed buildings..
Finally

Posted by: pete | October 5, 2009, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

“Could you provide a specific citation of some of these liberals going nuts over executive orders?”
How about Bush’s executive order to press for more research into ways of obtaining embryonic stem cells without harming human life?

Posted by: Sigmonde | October 5, 2009, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

Sigmonde provided an excellent example of a Bush executive order that libs went nuts over. Here’s another– the EO modifying the Presidential Records Act. And the complaints about Bush EOs started even before 9/11. I recall there were some EOs that dealt with unions early on that raised hackles– like one that said government projects did not have to use all union labor and another that said government contractors had to notify union workers that legally they were allowed to withhold the portion of their union dues that went to political contribution.
Yes, there were numerous EOs from Bush II that made Democrats and libs (not always the same thing) go crazy, as I remember.

Posted by: moderate | October 5, 2009, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

“Who really believes the WH/Obama can lead anything?”
According to a USA Today/Gallup poll released 3 weeks ago, 66% of Americans describe Obama as a strong and decisive leader. 33% disagree.
A week ago, Rasmussen (choice pollster of conservatives) found that 45% of voters thought Obama’s leadership style is about right, up from 38% earlier in the month. 26% thought he is too cooperative, while 21% thought he is too confrontational.

Posted by: Numeros | October 6, 2009, 12:34 am 12:34 am

We global temperatures are in decade long cooling trend.
Posted by: Mace
it only takes ten years to determine global warming effects?……. thank you for your exhaustive research.

Posted by: YO | October 6, 2009, 2:24 am 2:24 am

CO2 is not, was never and never shall be a pollutant! It’s a trace gas essential to all life on the planet. Posted by: Woody
maybe you can do an experiment for us, remember Tom Ridge’s suggestion about how to protect from bio-weapons attacks…
build yourself a plastic sheeting cubicle, seal with duct tape to make it air tight, relax,..then wait about 6 hours, and let us know whether CO2 had any adverse pollutant type effects..

Posted by: YO | October 6, 2009, 2:29 am 2:29 am

I can see McCain, Graham, Snowe, and others supporting him on sensible financial regulation and other measures to help the economy
Posted by: moderate
if the ‘too big to fail’ problem is not addressed, or
not enough bank capital reserves, unregulated ‘exotic’ financial instruments, CEO pay scale and bonus, and more….. then ‘financial regulation’ becomes a meaningless concept

Posted by: YO | October 6, 2009, 2:36 am 2:36 am

Obama should have thought of this before he and Michelle took his and her pollution belching airliners to Denmark.

Posted by: walt | October 6, 2009, 7:01 am 7:01 am

@YO – You are on a roll today. Obama should sign you up as one of his apologists.
Regarding the amount of CO in the air:
The principal constituents of the atmosphere of Earth are nitrogen (78 percent) and oxygen (21 percent). The atmospheric gases in the remaining 1 percent are argon (0.9 percent), carbon dioxide (0.03 percent), varying amounts of water vapor, and trace amounts of hydrogen, ozone, methane, carbon monoxide, helium, neon, krypton, and xenon.

Posted by: walt | October 6, 2009, 7:06 am 7:06 am

mmm mmm mmm Barack Hussein Obama
He makes a fuss
To lecture us
mmm mmm mmm Barack Hussein Obama

Posted by: tjp612 | October 6, 2009, 8:54 am 8:54 am

Does this mean that the Obamas won’t use two jets and spew a million tons of CO2 into the atmosphere for another losing effort?

Posted by: drjohn | October 6, 2009, 9:40 am 9:40 am

Speaking of leading by example- will Congress abide by te same health care plan thy force upon us?

Posted by: drjohn | October 6, 2009, 9:40 am 9:40 am

“build yourself a plastic sheeting cubicle, seal with duct tape to make it air tight, relax,..then wait about 6 hours, and let us know whether CO2 had any adverse pollutant type effects..”
This is simply mindless.
Plants require CO2 to survive and create the oxygen we need.
Not everyone should be allowed to have children.

Posted by: drjohn | October 6, 2009, 9:43 am 9:43 am

Lets see, Obama and the Mrs went on separate flights with separate enterages on a failed mission to Denmark to bring the corrupt olympics to a more corrupt Chicago and he wants the rest of the govt to watch their carbon emissions. Liberals are too stupid to see their own hypocracy

Posted by: JamesJ | October 6, 2009, 10:43 am 10:43 am

How much did it cost us to buy all those white coats handed out to doctors yesterday?
Obama apparently didn’t learn anything by his stunning embarrassment in Copenhagen.
To Obama everything is still a dog and pony show to make him look good.
Why not? the Obama Media wouldn’t dare show pictures of lab coats being handed out just for a photo op.

Posted by: harry | October 6, 2009, 10:59 am 10:59 am

…Our POTUS really, really should have a good talk with the Czarin charge of late night comedy remarks……you know, like reducing polutions generated by the federal government only a few short hours after blowing smoke on a couple of planes for trips to Copenhagen. Is this stuff real???

Posted by: justj joey | October 6, 2009, 11:02 am 11:02 am

===Lead by example===
How about we try this…instead of 2 airplanes to Copenhagen, you just take one?

Posted by: Axey | October 6, 2009, 11:09 am 11:09 am

Does that mean, they are trading in their SUV’s and getting a Ford Focus

Posted by: Lizzie | October 6, 2009, 11:11 am 11:11 am

Next, in a fireside chat about our national malaise, Jimmy Carter, Jr. will tell us to wear a warmer sweater and turn the thermostat down this winter.

Posted by: Jimmy Carter's Second Term | October 6, 2009, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Look what’s happening on Obama’s watch:
“In the most profound financial change in recent Middle East history, Gulf Arabs are planning – along with China, Russia, Japan and France – to end dollar dealings for oil, moving instead to a basket of currencies including the Japanese yen and Chinese yuan, the euro, gold and a new, unified currency planned for nations in the Gulf Co-operation Council, including Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, Kuwait and Qatar.”
But–but–how can this happen after that magnificent Cairo speech?

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | October 6, 2009, 11:19 am 11:19 am

But wait–didn’t The One just dazzle them at the UN? Don’t they just love him there?
“The United Nations called on Tuesday for a new global reserve currency to end dollar supremacy which has allowed the United States the “privilege” of building a huge trade deficit.
“Important progress in managing imbalances can be made by reducing the reserve currency country?s ‘privilege’ to run external deficits in order to provide international liquidity,” UN undersecretary-general for economic and social affairs, Sha Zukang, said.”

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | October 6, 2009, 11:38 am 11:38 am

Does he even know how to lead?

Posted by: JULIE | October 6, 2009, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

“Does he even know how to lead?”
A fair number of people think he does. For more details, see my comment posted Oct 6, 2009 12:34:11 AM

Posted by: Numeros | October 6, 2009, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Does that mean Obama will suspend his campaign until closer to 2012?
I think he has ADHD. Obama cannot sit still long enough to actually govern.
Plus he doesn’t know how.
Used to voting present all the time.

Posted by: hank | October 6, 2009, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

YO:”maybe you can do an experiment for us, remember Tom Ridge’s suggestion about how to protect from bio-weapons attacks…
build yourself a plastic sheeting cubicle, seal with duct tape to make it air tight, relax,..then wait about 6 hours, and let us know whether CO2 had any adverse pollutant type effects..”
I tried it and it was quite fun. It only took a few minutes until I passed out from oxygen deprivation. In this lively experiment I increased the concentration of CO2 in my immediate surroundings from 387 parts per million to about 100,000 parts per million, an increase of more than 25,000%! Even so CO2 had no adverse “pollutant type” effects, rather a lack of oxygen caused this mammal to shut down for a time. Not surprising.
What’s your point again? Are you suggesting if we don’t stop driving our cars we’ll all pass out from oxygen deprivation? That’s just as silly as suggesting an increase in atmospheric CO2 from 280 ppm to 400 ppm (an increase of ~40%) will cause ice sheets to slide into the ocean. No one knows what the true radiative forcing of doubling atmospheric CO2 is (we know it is limited, however), nor does anyone know how the rest of the incredibly complex climate system will react. All we can say is there is no conclusive evidence to state today’s warming is predominantly man-made, unprecedented or catastrophic.
Lastly, look up Ken Briffa Yamal Series for an education on how paleoclimatogists create hockey stick shaped temperature graphs.

Posted by: Woody | October 6, 2009, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

“All we can say is there is no conclusive evidence to state today’s warming is predominantly man-made, unprecedented or catastrophic.”
How convenient for the naysayers to demand conclusive evidence which cannot ever be provided. Are we supposed to find an identical planet to Earth to use as a control for testing purposes? We believe the evidence IS conclusive enough to make a judgment call on it.

Posted by: Skip | October 6, 2009, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

“The principal constituents of the atmosphere of Earth are nitrogen (78 percent) and oxygen (21 percent). The atmospheric gases in the remaining 1 percent are argon (0.9 percent), carbon dioxide (0.03 percent)”
That’s carbon dioxide 0.03% and rising rapidly.

Posted by: Skip | October 6, 2009, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

“Plants require CO2 to survive and create the oxygen we need.”
And if we were to immediately cease all synthetic production of CO2 the plants would still have plenty without us.

Posted by: Skip | October 6, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

How convenient for the naysayers to demand conclusive evidence which cannot ever be provided. Are we supposed to find an identical planet to Earth to use as a control for testing purposes? We believe the evidence IS conclusive enough to make a judgment call on it.
Posted by: Skip | Oct 6, 2009 3:09:09 PM
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Naysayers? I prefer rationalist, critical thinker, professional engineer, realist, one who demands excellence.
The burden of proof is always on the one who is positing a theory. Always. You may believe the evidence to date is conclusive but not many scientists do. Please spare me the “thousands of scientists” canard.

Posted by: Woody | October 6, 2009, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

Obama makes so many speeches that he is leaving his “carbon footprint” all over the world creating enough gas to supply the state of California for 4 years!! Practice what you preach all right!!

Posted by: ross | October 6, 2009, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

Just once I’d like the Global Warming diciples to explain to me how rising CO2 levels can cause the temperature to go up when the data states that on average the CO2 levels rise 800 years after warming begins.That’s the data,folks-warming BEFORE rising CO2 levels.Isn’t that the same as saying that a clap of thunder causes the bolt of lighting that precedes it?

Posted by: Nephron | October 6, 2009, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

Naysayers? I prefer rationalist, critical thinker, professional engineer, realist, one who demands excellence.
The burden of proof is always on the one who is positing a theory. Always.
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Of course you do. But it would be nice if you could get to arguments outside what we’ve come to know as denialese. It sounds like you at least acknowledge “global warming” as evidenced by the actual surface temperature record and other measurements and indicators such as ice core analyses, satellite data, sea ice melt, sea level rise, glacial melt observations, permafrost melt, and so on.
As to Skip’s point, science is a language of probablity, yes? Human knowledge is constantly evolving. In general, the older and more established a given theory becomes, the less and less likely it is that any new finding will drastically change things– as we’ve seen, IMO, with the greenhouse effect theory which is over 100 years old. Time has continued to strengthen and refine the groundbreaking conclusions first drawn in 1896 regarding anthropogenic global warming. Every major institute—GISS, NOAA, NAS, SOCC, EPA, RS, AGU, AIP, NCAR,AMS, CMOS, Academia Brasiliera de Ciências (Brazil), Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, Russian Academy of Sciences,Chinese Academy of Sciences, Accademia dei Lincei (Italy), Academié des Sciences (France), Royal Society (United Kingdom),Australian Academy of Sciences, Royal Irish Academy, Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand, Royal Society of Canada, and so on– that deals with climate-related science is saying that AGW is, indeed, real and dangerous and , although I’ll grant that they put forth their findings with “very likely” and “strongly indicated” qualifiers. “Thousands of scientists” is no canard. Of course, that doesn’t mean there aren’t unsolved problems and active debates in climate science. As I’ve said before there are many things we don’t know about global warming but there are also many of things we don’t know about cancer and other diseases. I’ll take the science we have for now. If you’re wrong, I don’t want my kids and their kids and their kids to pay for your mistake. And if those of us who go with the science are wrong, it’s really not that big of a deal because we need to invest in alternative fuels anyway– for national security, if nothing else. And clean air and a healthy environment is a wonderful thing for us and future generations :>)
I’m not sure I understand what you’re trying to say about carbon dioxide. Why wouldn’t a 35% increase in the second most important greenhouse gas affect the global temperature? Sure, the greenhouse effect occurs naturally, but why exactly wouldn’t it be intensified by humankind’s input of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere? Where is the evidence of or theory regarding some other natural force, or whatever it is you postulate is causing climate change, like the Milankovich cycles that controlled the ice ages? Or do you believe that Steve McIntyre’s recent posting on Yamal calls warming at all into question– and that the climate change fluctuations are normal? I realize there is a lot of excitement among climate skeptics about his finding, but I’ve seen the broken hockey stick thing debunked so many times, and I’ll admit I’m not enough of a science and statistics geek to weed through all of it on my own ( I tried and its pretty tedious.) I’d like to see the scientific community weigh in. Even then, I’d still ask why wouldn’t a 35% increase in the second most important greenhouse gas affect the global temperature? And also, I’d ask what do we have to lose, really, by investing in alternative energy sources and practices which help keep the environment healthy? If the skeptics and deniers are wrong the stakes are extremely high.

Posted by: Alyson | October 7, 2009, 12:45 am 12:45 am

Just once I’d like the Global Warming diciples to explain to me how rising CO2 levels can cause the temperature to go up when the data states that on average the CO2 levels rise 800 years after warming begins.That’s the data,folks-warming BEFORE rising CO2 levels.Isn’t that the same as saying that a clap of thunder causes the bolt of lighting that precedes it?
Posted by: Nephron | Oct 6, 2009 11:44:12 PM
Surely you’ve read the unpacking of the whole “carbon dioxide doesn’t lead, it lags” argument. I know Gore started all this (aaaargh!) but the short answer (short for me, lol, which I realize isn’t very short) is that before human intervention, changes in CO2 lagged temperature rises. However, CO2 causes temperature rise AND warming causes CO2 outgassing from oceans. This feedback system is confirmed by the CO2 record – in the past, the amplifying effect of CO2 feedback enabled warming to spread across the globe and take the planet out of the ice age. So, you’re talking about very long (glacial-interglacial) timescales. While the carbon dioxide didn’t cause the first 800 years of warming, it likely caused or greatly contributed to the next 4200 years of warming.
The notion that CO2 lags and amplifies temperature was predicted in 1990 in a paper by Claude Lorius and James Hansen. It wasn’t a shocker for the Global Warming experts and community.
My favorite response to this Q is Deltoid’s:
“CO2 is not causing global warming, in fact, CO2 is lagging temperature change in all reliable datasets. ”
See also my forthcoming paper: Chickens do not lay eggs, because they have been observed to hatch from them”.

Posted by: Alyson | October 7, 2009, 1:38 am 1:38 am

“lead by example” RIGHT OK OBAMA.
How bought parking that damn 747 and helicopter for a little while. Stay at the office maybe. But don’t tell us that we should lead by example when you are jet setting around the world. Hey have you heard about GOTO meeting.com. Might save the environment. Maybe even use the secure line telephone on that oval thingy in your house.

Posted by: 'Un-Amercican' | October 7, 2009, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

“But don’t tell us that we should lead by example when you are jet setting around the world”
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You seem to have missed out on the fact the President of the United States has international duties.
At least he isn’t jetting back and forth to his Texas ranch every second weekend like the last one.

Posted by: tierra | October 7, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

You seem to have missed out on the fact the President of the United States has international duties.
At least he isn’t jetting back and forth to his Texas ranch every second weekend like the last one.
Posted by: tierra | Oct 7, 2009 12:20:56 PM
At least he was not being a hypocrit saying we should reduce greenhouse gasses while making all the trips. I know the president has to make some trips but if the environment is such a world concern why don’t they pick up the damn phone and call each other?

Posted by: 'Un-Amercican' | October 7, 2009, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

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