By Lindsey Ellerson

Oct 2, 2009 5:20pm

Obama: Job Losses a ‘Sobering Reminder’ of the Work Ahead

ABC News' Jordyn Phelps reports:

President Obama reacted to the spike in job losses reported today by the Department of Labor upon his return from a failed Olympic bid in Copenhagen.

“Today’s job report is certainly a sobering reminder that progress comes in fits and starts and we’re going to need to grind out this recovery,” the President said to reporters in the Rose Garden.

The Department of Labor reported that the U.S. economy lost 263,000 additional jobs in September, raising the unemployment rate to 9.8 percent—the highest it’s been since entering the recession.

Though the President expressed concern for those Americans who have been affected by the recent job losses, he said that the high unemployment rate is to be expected in a time of economic recovery.

“Employment is often the last thing to come back after a recession, that’s what history shows us, but our task is to do everything we can possibly do to accelerate that process,” the President remarked.

Though today’s economic report was a setback in the overall recovery of the economy, Obama said that progress that has been made.

“Since the period last winter when we were losing an average of 700,000 jobs per month, we've certainly made some progress on this front,” Obama said.

The president pointed to the Recovery Act as an important component of that progress and suggested that health care reform would further assist in creating jobs. Obama also signaled that he is looking into additional measures to reboot the ailing economy.

“I'm working closely with my economic advisers to explore any and all additional options and measures that we might take to promote job creation,” Obama said.
 
President Obama concluded his remarks by vowing to continue working “each and every day” to bring about economic recovery. 

–Jordyn Phelps

 

User Comments

It’s still the economy, stupid. Companies are petrified to hire anyone right now considering all the massive taxes the Democrats have lined up between health care reform and the global warming tax-a-palooza bill. Even solid companies that are flush with cash are loathe to bring on hew hires in any meaningful way. This isn’t surprising given the current political environment.

Posted by: Woody | October 2, 2009, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

“The president pointed to the Recovery Act as an important component of that progress”
Well, obviously. Only an idiot would think that the government spending billions of dollars and cutting taxes by billions wouldn’t support a great deal of jobs (over $200 billion of that oft-quoted $787 billion stimulus wasn’t spending, but rather taxes that aren’t going to be collected). The unanswered question is if it was worth it.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 2, 2009, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

“Since the period last winter when we were losing an average of 700,000 jobs per month, we’ve certainly made some progress on this front,” Obama said.
Translation: Employers are running out of employees to lay off.
Next stop – more companies go under.

Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | October 2, 2009, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

Omigosh. Nine months and Obama still hasn’t cleaned up the enormous mess of a nearly depressed economy left by Republicans. It took Reagan three years to bring jobless rates down after inheriting a much less severely battered economy. Given that the only cure the Republicans have offered is more of the same stuff that got us into this mess, I’d say the main lesson is that it could have been worse. Much worse.
But it’s time so seize on an historic moment. Republicans, after 28 years of avid deficit spending, are suddenly in favor of balanced budgets. It’s time to pass that balanced budget amendment Newt promised us back in 94, then promptly forgot after winning the elections. No more free tax cuts, dudes – which will leave Republicans with pretty much no policies at all.

Posted by: Nomo Stew | October 2, 2009, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

In his opening statement at a hearing of the House Financial Services committee, Bernanke told lawmakers that the Fed is “well suited” to supervise large, interconnected firms. As part of sweeping financial regulatory reform measures currently under discussion in Congress, the Obama administration has proposed that the Fed regulate these firms in an effort to avoid the government having to bail out so-called “too big to fail” companies as has occurred during the current crisis.
“There’s nobody more sick and tired of bailouts than me,” Bernanke said.
O tell us more Mr. Wizard! Tell us how the Fed is soooooo well qualified! Why doesn’t the Obama administration just man up, put all its cards on the table and confiscate everything so we can gat past the soft tyranny and get on with the hard tyranny.

Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | October 2, 2009, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

The latest FOX News poll shows a decline in support for health care reform over the past two weeks.
Currently, one-third favors the legislation being considered (33 percent) and a slight majority (53 percent) opposes it. This compares to 38 percent favoring and 48 percent opposing the legislation two weeks ago (15-16 September 2009).

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | October 2, 2009, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

“…he government spending billions of dollars and cutting taxes by billions…”
The problem is that the “tax cuts” were one-time cash infusions (in the form of transfer payments) instead of rate reductions. They provided zero incentive or stimulus for private-sector economic growth, and so we are not seeing any.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | October 2, 2009, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

Glad to see all those “Putting Amercians to Work” signs that cost millions in Stimulus Funds along the road side of all these shovel ready UNION projects. Surprised they don’t have The Won’s picture alongside. Don’t be fooled people -Zero’s policies are working as planned – this is all by design.

Posted by: Laurie | October 2, 2009, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

“Omigosh. Nine months and Obama still hasn’t cleaned up the enormous mess of a nearly depressed economy left by Republicans. It took Reagan three years to bring jobless rates down after inheriting a much less severely battered economy. Given that the only cure the Republicans have offered is more of the same stuff that got us into this mess, I’d say the main lesson is that it could have been worse. Much worse.
“But it’s time so seize on an historic moment. Republicans, after 28 years of avid deficit spending, are suddenly in favor of balanced budgets. It’s time to pass that balanced budget amendment Newt promised us back in 94, then promptly forgot after winning the elections. No more free tax cuts, dudes – which will leave Republicans with pretty much no policies at all.”
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Shhh! The Republicans don’t like their criticisms and attacks interupted by reality.

Posted by: tierra | October 2, 2009, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

So, remind me, was it a month or two before when they said that a decrease in the rate of job losses was an indicator that things have started to reverse. If ever somebody sold snakeoil to the country, it would be the senator-turned-potus.

Posted by: What? | October 2, 2009, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

You know, my heart just goes out to those who have lost jobs or who are afraid of losing their jobs. And to those who have lost or are afraid are afraid of losing their business, their savings, and their homes.
I hope this baby gets turned back around soon, and I hope for wisdom for those who have the responsibility to help make it happen.

Posted by: MayBee | October 2, 2009, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

I hope this baby gets turned back around soon, and I hope for wisdom for those who have the responsibility to help make it happen.
Posted by: MayBee
well said,..
I share your sentiments and hope,

Posted by: TnT | October 2, 2009, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

my husnand lost his job in 1996!!!!!!!!!! he worked at a prominent bank in boston as a manager of one of their many vaults. we LOST OUR HOME in 1997! no-one cared then and no-one still cares. he had worked there for 17 YEARS!! we thrown in the street on my children’s first day of school.i had a nervous breakdown. we were homeless twice after that. we had a HUD backed loan, what a joke. i got in touch with them, our congressman and to no avail. the handwriting was on the wall as to the downfall of the economy. the bank he worked for was bought out! where were all these geniuses? our story should have come out back then, but my husband was too demolished by what had happened to him. where was our help then??????

Posted by: marina | October 2, 2009, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

Next stop – more companies go under.
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas
but that’s exactly what Republicans want, along with an attack on America, a military coup, states seceding, and more wars…..
love their patriotism and their flag lapel pins, btw: can you pass the ‘freedom fries”

Posted by: No Mas | October 2, 2009, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

In their most recent health care survey (9/11-13), CNN/Opinion Research (one of two pollsters that nailed the 2008 election results spot-on) asked Americans “From everything you have heard or read so far, do you favor or oppose Barack Obama’s plan to reform health care?”
51% Favor
46% Oppose

Posted by: Numeros | October 2, 2009, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

No Mas | Oct 2, 2009 7:02:17 PM…..You are not correct. It is what many economists predicted before the stimulus bill was rushed through. By the way, the U6 unemplyment % may be above 20 percent (as was predicted).

Posted by: deanbob | October 2, 2009, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

CNN! They were in shock. They could not believe the IOC would NOT give Chicago the Olympics! As of Sept 28, Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 56% are opposed to the plan.

Posted by: DEANBOB | October 2, 2009, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

The sad thruth is that niether the dems or the repbs are going to save us! The system is boken and with the deficits were are accumulating we will be screwed for years to come, possiblly forever. I am hoping the end of the world happens in 2012, we might last that long!

Posted by: david | October 2, 2009, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

IT TOOK 8 YEAR TO GET US IN THIS MESS. It will take us 16 to get out. Everyone knows it takes twice as long to get out of a mess.

Posted by: Brandon | October 2, 2009, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

Obama does NOT know how to work the economy! Not only that, N. Korea and IRAN and Russia are beefing up their artillery! This guy is not doing his job. I am really afraid for our country.

Posted by: David | October 2, 2009, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

“Translation: Employers are running out of employees to lay off.”
This has happened at my company in Michigan. We’re a skeleton crew barely holding it together and we expect our current job freeze to last well into next year. The local job market is dead so most of us are having to work 50 to 60 hours a week. It’s stressful and scary.

Posted by: Lori | October 2, 2009, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

“The problem is that the “tax cuts” were one-time cash infusions (in the form of transfer payments) instead of rate reductions. They provided zero incentive or stimulus for private-sector economic growth, and so we are not seeing any.”
Fascist Hyena | Oct 2, 2009 5:59:02 PM
Leaving $200 billion in the hands of private citizens and businesses instead of the government provided zero stimulus? That’s an… interesting… opinion.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 2, 2009, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

“my husnand lost his job in 1996!!!!!!… where was our help then??????”
marina | Oct 2, 2009 7:01:32 PM
Between 1995 and 1996 there were 2.4 million jobs created. In that ONE year there were almost as many jobs created as President Bush created in all 8 years of his terms in total (3.0 million). The US jobs market is dynamic, there is no employment for life. But in 1996 there was tremendous opportunity available.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 2, 2009, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

“This has happened at my company in Michigan. We’re a skeleton crew barely holding it together and we expect our current job freeze to last well into next year. The local job market is dead so most of us are having to work 50 to 60 hours a week. It’s stressful and scary.”
Keep being afraid. Those companies won’t be bringing back the higher-paid experienced employees. They’ll be filling the headcount with entry-level people, gloating over the savings, and not looking back. The downsized will be the lost generation that will become legacy of this administration’s plans.

Posted by: Publius | October 2, 2009, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

“By the way, the U6 unemplyment % may be above 20 percent (as was predicted).”
U6 stands at 17%.
I am so glad that right wingers have started to embrace the U6 figure which they steadfastly IGNORED for 8 years during Bush when the U6 figure was twice the announced unemployment rate.
Even if its a craven embrace by the right wing, the U6 is a better measure of our employment situation and should be used more often.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 2, 2009, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

The “Experts” aka The Obama Administration said unemployment wouldn’t go above 8% due to the stimulus package. Look how the media dogs them for their failure. Ha! If this was a republican president it would be story after story after story of poor unemployed people forced to live in squalor. The way things are reported you’d think this was an economic boom.

Posted by: me | October 2, 2009, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

Could there be a worse President? This guy has had multiple opportunities to stabilize the economy, provide leadership at home and show the world that the U.S. is the greatest nation on Earth.
Instead we have a FOOL apologizing to every country that puts him on a stage(while they laugh at him in back rooms), tries to ram a health care bill that is packed full of lies, puts a stimulus package in place last Spring that has done NOTHING to help the economy.
Jimmy Carter resurfaced with a comment because he knows he will no longer be perceived as the weakest and lamest president of the past 50 years. We’ve got one going down in flames right now!!!
One TERM!

Posted by: Jim | October 2, 2009, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

With the passage of the health care and cap and tax there will be hundreds of thousands of more job losses…that is a fact being employed myself by one of these industries, we are already seeing the layoffs due to companys afraid of what this administration has done to other industries, they are preparing in advance.

Posted by: bailedout2 | October 2, 2009, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

Go see Capitalism: A Love Story.

Posted by: Coherent1 | October 2, 2009, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

Ever notice how every Obama speech is laced with the words “I’m working closely with…..”. He knows he sucks and is in over his head.
The world is laughing at the U.S. LAUGHING! At least George W. Bush commmanded the world’s that he would ACT on behalf of the U.S interests. Every foreign leader knows the impotent Obama can’t and won’t stand up for the U.S because he thinks the U.S is the problem!!!!!
January 2013…END of an ERROR!

Posted by: Jim | October 2, 2009, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

Mr. President, the Olympics were not a national priority at this time. You should have stayed home and keep a watch on domestic affairs. Don’t let this Olympic bid flop be a sign of a failed presidency.

Posted by: what667 | October 2, 2009, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

Don’t count your chickens before they hatch. Go see Capitalism: A Love Story. You people keep attacking one another like you’re gonna change something. You’re pointless. Go see the movie.

Posted by: Coherent1 | October 2, 2009, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

Could there be a worse President?
Posted by: Jim | Oct 2, 2009 7:47:23 PM
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So you’ve been in a coma or something since 2001? Get real, dude.

Posted by: Alyson | October 2, 2009, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

For those of you who adore Presidential job approval polls of likely voters, the latest Zogby Interactive survey from 9/28 shows:
52% Approve
47% Disapprove
Obama picked up 10 points since the Zogby poll on August 31st.

Posted by: Numeros | October 2, 2009, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

a sobering reminder? vs drunken forgetfulness? the economy seemed like it was getting better, but now it is getting much worse. and the cash for clunkers spike in auto sales wore off and now everyone who could have afforded a new car bought one, so car sales dropped dramatically this month. how many jobs did he save this month? just make up a number, noone can check it for accuracy or believability. we need a president who can focus, and who doesnt need a reminder.

Posted by: jill | October 2, 2009, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

STOP SPENDING ALL OUR MONEY OBAMA. More government is not the answer!

Posted by: Reality | October 2, 2009, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

Does anyone believe obamas approval rating was down to 42%? and has increased 10 points? Numeros, are you just making up numbers in order to post something here?

Posted by: Bruce in OR | October 2, 2009, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

“The “Experts” aka The Obama Administration said unemployment wouldn’t go above 8% due to the stimulus package. Look how the media dogs them for their failure.”
me | Oct 2, 2009 7:47:11 PM
You are lying. The administration said no such thing. And all of their estimates had the uncertain and error bounds clearly stated.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 2, 2009, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

Do you work for Michael Moore?

Posted by: Jenny | October 2, 2009, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

“Mr. President, the Olympics were not a national priority at this time. You should have stayed home and keep a watch on domestic affairs.”
what667 | Oct 2, 2009 7:55:49 PM
Uh, he spent less than a single day on them. He spent longer on the Annual Easter Egg Roll. Not sure what fantasy land you live in where that is making them a “national priority.”

Posted by: jhw539 | October 2, 2009, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm

After 1 year, he owns this situation. Tick Tock

Posted by: smugrg | October 2, 2009, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

Hey Mr. President
Give up on health care for now and get America back to work I can not wait I have no unemployment left my savings are almost gone I am 55 no one to help me out and I want to work. Lets deal with the number one crisis first, and worry about health insuranse latter. If we all starve to death health ins will not matter. Also make a federal law stoping homeless from living in parks or parking lots we need some place to survive. P.S I voted for you get it togeather PLEASE!

Posted by: tealtripod55 | October 2, 2009, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

Ummmmm…..how about REDUCING government, and taxes etc! How about not throwing away billions on things like cash for clunkers? Notice how well they are doing now that that program is over? What has anything he has done helped this country? We can’t afford obamacare especially right now! Our great grand children are going to be carrying this debt throughout their lives! This has got to stop!!!

Posted by: Justme8811 | October 2, 2009, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

Google “Obama’s economic advisers saw unemployment cresting at just below 8 percent with the stimulus in place; without it, they forecast the national rate topping out around 9 percent.” Now who’s lying?

Posted by: me again | October 2, 2009, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

“Does anyone believe obamas approval rating was down to 42%? and has increased 10 points? Numeros, are you just making up numbers in order to post something here?”
Nope, not making them up; they are straight from Zogby’s website. Right wingers were shouting Zogby’s praises here on these blogs a month ago.

Posted by: Numeros | October 2, 2009, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

You are lying. The administration said no such thing. And all of their estimates had the uncertain and error bounds clearly stated.
Posted by: jhw539 | Oct 2, 2009 8:04:58 PM
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Nope – he is not lying. The administration said unemployment would not go higher than 8% if the stimulus was passed. The administration lied.

Posted by: Jenny | October 2, 2009, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

” The administration said unemployment would not go higher than 8% if the stimulus was passed. The administration lied.”
Jenny | Oct 2, 2009 8:10:31 PM
Cite it. Or even have the courage to actually fabricate a quote that anyone reading can google up themselves.
You are lying. The administration did release a report (Romer and Bernstein “The Job Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan” that predicted the jobless rate would peak at 8.5% if the stimulus was passed AND that report included the following:
“It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error. There is the obvious uncertainty that comes from modeling a hypothetical package rather than the final legislation passed by the Congress. But, there is the more fundamental
uncertainty that comes with any estimate of the effects of a program.”
I provided my citation and a direct quotation that strongly indicates you are lying. Please offer any quotation or citation that supports your slander that “The administration said unemployment would not go higher than 8% if the stimulus was passed.”

Posted by: jhw539 | October 2, 2009, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

I am hoping for a one term presidency for Obama so that we can have a Republican president who will come in and create jobs and budget surpluses—something the GOP has done for the past eights years.

Posted by: what667 | October 2, 2009, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

“Though the President expressed concern for those Americans who have been affected by the recent job losses, he said that the high unemployment rate is to be expected in a time of economic recovery.”
The President may expect there to be high unemployment, but that does not help those of us who have been out of work for a very long time. Businesses are cautious about adding to their employment rolls because they have no idea when the recession will be over. There is no or limited credit, customers are cautious about spending money, and business owners don’t know what mandates health insurance bring about.
I’d rather have more real attention to job creation and less to traveling about the world or the country making speeches.

Posted by: suki | October 2, 2009, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

I just posted and my thought did not come out the way I intended, about the homeless and unemployed looking for a place to sleep. I want the President to make a Presidental order prohibiting police, cities, state, county whatever, from trowing homeless out of parks, parking lots ect.We need work a place to sleep and training for the new world. How can you obtain traing while your living in the streets. Set up camps and provide traing for us we are ready and willing to be apart of the new world we just need help.

Posted by: tealtripod55 | October 2, 2009, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

@Jenny, assuming you’re addressing your question to me? No, I don’t work for Michael Moore. I saw the movie today, though. We debated Capitalism in college. It’s just weird to see the results 15 years later. My instructor, who was from India, left it an open-ended debate because people were so heated. Some of my classmates were angry with him. They called him a socialist too. Judging from the mini-debates and slams on this blog, I can see that same mentality. It’s just strange and a bit unnerving when you sit back, put the partisanship aside, and really put things into perspective. Go see the movie.

Posted by: Coherent1 | October 2, 2009, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

It’s just strange and a bit unnerving when you sit back, put the partisanship aside, and really put things into perspective. Go see the movie.
Posted by: Coherent1 | Oct 2, 2009 8:18:19 PM
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You know, I appreciate your post. I despise Michael Moore – mostly because he is hateful and closed minded. Didn’t he make a movie about hurting George Bush? I never voted for Bush and didn’t think he did a great job as President, but I don’t see how he can be as hateful as that. I think his movies are biased, don’t you? As far as capitalism, doesn’t he benefit from capitalism by the ever-rising movie ticket prices? I would appreciate, however, if obama set movie ticket prices at $1 or $2 so everyone could afford to see movies.

Posted by: Jenny | October 2, 2009, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

” The administration said unemployment would not go higher than 8% if the stimulus was passed. The administration lied.”
Jenny | Oct 2, 2009 8:10:31 PM
Cite it. Or even have the courage to actually fabricate a quote that anyone reading can google up themselves.
You are lying. The administration did release a report (Romer and Bernstein “The Job Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan” that predicted the jobless rate would peak at 8.5% if the stimulus was passed AND that report included the following:
“It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error. There is the obvious uncertainty that comes from modeling a hypothetical package rather than the final legislation passed by the Congress. But, there is the more fundamental
uncertainty that comes with any estimate of the effects of a program.”
I provided my citation and a direct quotation that strongly indicates you are lying. Please offer any quotation or citation that supports your slander that “The administration said unemployment would not go higher than 8% if the stimulus was passed.”
Posted by: jhw539 | Oct 2, 2009 8:15:44 PM
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Even Time magazine cited the quote. I can understand why you would be upset over this. The guy you voted for LIED.

Posted by: Jenny | October 2, 2009, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

The problem is not the president only. Our congress men do not work for us and never work for us. They work for big corp such as Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, etc…Believe it or not, whiel we are searching for a job, Yahoo and others are giving offers to H1B worker…

Posted by: NeedJob | October 2, 2009, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

Unemployment Continues to Climb
Unemployment has continued to climb at an alarming rate, despite passage of the $787 billion economic stimulus package. Explains The Australian News: “… only six months ago Obama was telling Americans that unemployment, then at 7.2%, could be held to a peak of 8% this year if Congress passed his $US787 billion stimulus package.
“Congress duly obliged and unemployment has galloped ahead ever since. Most economists now believe the 10% mark will be reached before the year is out.
“… Obama’s jobless prediction would be out of whack by more than four million jobs. As it stands now, he has miscalculated by about 2.6 million jobs.”
Okay – a couple more and then I have to go.

Posted by: Jenny | October 2, 2009, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

Obama’s Stimulus Plan: Failing by Its Own Measure (TIME)
Back in early January, when Barack Obama was still President-elect, two of his chief economic advisers — leading proponents of a stimulus bill — predicted that the passage of a large economic-aid package would boost the economy and keep the unemployment rate below 8%. It hasn’t quite worked out that way. Last month, the jobless rate in the U.S. hit 9.5%, the highest level it has reached since 1983.

Posted by: Jenny | October 2, 2009, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

If we passed the stimulus, we shouldn’t have seen unemployment pass the 8% mark, what happened?
Seems like the stimulus stimulated the wrong unused airports! Maybe Michael Moore can try the unused airports with his 35 million dollar jet.

Posted by: Ed Taylor | October 2, 2009, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

Kind of hard to create jobs when small businesses are too afraid to hire people.
They don’t trust Obama’s word about not raising taxes. And who knows how health care reform will affect small business.
And then there’s cap and trade.

Posted by: hank | October 2, 2009, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

This is from ABC news:
The White House billed the trip as an “official” journey, so taxpayers picked up the costs for the slightly more than 14-hour round trip on Air Force One. The Defense Department pegs the operating costs for the president’s 747 at $100,219 per flight hour. Double it to include the backup plane that always accompanies the president. Add the costs of the Air Force 757 that Mrs. Obama used to fly to Copenhagen earlier in the week. It adds up to nearly $3-million dollars. And that doesn’t include the aircraft used to fly the presidential limousines and Secret Service vehicles there as well.

Posted by: young_voter | October 2, 2009, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

Obama Promises Over 600,000 Stimulus Jobs
By Associated Press June 8, 2009 8:09 am
Obama initially offered his stimulus plan as a way to put people back to work, a promise that 3.5 million jobs would be saved or created. The administration’s predictions that unemployment would rise no higher than 8 percent already have been shattered, leaving Obama’s advisers to caution that job growth takes time, even as recovery spending intensifies.

Posted by: Jenny | October 2, 2009, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

BUSINESS IS THE “ONLY” ENTITY WHICH CAN CREATE IMPROVEMENT IN THE ECONOMY. UNTIL OBAMA REALIZES THIS, ALL HE IS DOING IS BLOWING IN THE WIND!!! BUSINESS CREATES ECONOMIC WEALTH – GOVERNMENT DEPLETES IT. CUT THE CORPORATE TAX RATE (OURS IS THE SECOND HIGHEST IN THE WORLD) AND ELIMINATE THE CAPITAL GAINS TAX. IF OBAMA DOES THIS, IT WILL TURN THINGS AROUND VERY QUICKLY, AND……. IT WILL BE HIS “ONLY” CHANCE AT A SECOND TERM, OTHERWISE – ENTER MITT ROMNEY!!

Posted by: Temagami | October 2, 2009, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

@Jenny, no the movie about murdering the president was by another person. Mike Moore was demonized because he stood up to large corporations, pharms, health care insurance, and politicians that supported them, Dems and Repubs alike. So you can expect the backlash he received. Political Science is an art for a reason. However, not everything about capitalism is bad. Hence we benefit, in part. But the scope of the plan is the 1% versus the 99%. That’s where the problems comes.

Posted by: Coherent1 | October 2, 2009, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm

Give him a chance, no one has made any progess in this world. Because he is black does not mean that he can not turn this world around. People can not continue to put the blame on him. There were others before him that left this world in the shape that it is in. What, is Obama supposed to turn this around in one night? Won’t happen! It took years to get us in this mess and it will take more to get us out.

Posted by: someone | October 2, 2009, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm

People are hurting terribly.
Obama is wasting millions of dollars on rediculous things.
Obama is supposed to be different.
The WH spent $18 million on a friggin website! $3000 per sign to showcase his Recovery Act.
Thousands on datenight in NYC, millions to go to Copenhagen, thousands for a photo-op flyover.
Most Americans are cutting back and buying mainly necessities.
Obama’s reckless spending is an insult to all struggling Americans.

Posted by: ollie | October 2, 2009, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

“Okay – a couple more and then I have to go.”
Jenny | Oct 2, 2009 8:34:05 PM
You are citing paraphrases and exagrations of what Obama actually said. Where’s the quote? Are you just regurgitating headlines? I cited what the ADMINISTRATION ACTUALLY SAID – why do you keep passing along second hand assessments? Think!
“It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error. There is the obvious uncertainty that comes from modeling a hypothetical package rather than the final legislation passed by the Congress. But, there is the more fundamental uncertainty that comes with any estimate of the effects of a program.”
-What the administration REALLY SAID according to documented reality
What you said was, “The administration said unemployment would not go higher than 8% if the stimulus was passed.” The administration said no such thing.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 2, 2009, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

If Obama was interested in job growth he would not pursue policies that will only suck the life out of the private sector, health takeover, cap & tax, and card check labor policies, just to name three.

Posted by: keys2truth | October 2, 2009, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

@ Hank, I know, I know, small businesses don’t trust Obama. They could go back to the day when Paulson walked to the podium and demanded a bailout without oversight, or else. Then everything will be just peachy.

Posted by: Coherent1 | October 2, 2009, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

Obama needs to grow up, wake up, and act like a president instead of a Hollywood celebrity.

Posted by: max | October 2, 2009, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

People have become sorry. They blame the Gov for everything. They do not want Gov in their lives but as soon as something goes wrong or they dont hear what they want they blame the Gov from the President down. The Gov is not wrong without the American people sharing blame. A. We have lost whats important in this country and values taught are money is the most important thing and its a dog eat dog world. People helping strangers are just about a thing of the past. Teaching kids to treat others the way they would want be treated is just about gone. Look at the way people drive. Many will put all at risk just to save a minute. People will use their cell phone and even text and know its dangerous but your life isn’t as important as their phone call or texting a message. Just about everything wrong in the USA is brought on by the citizens and yet they point their finger at Obama and the Gov. Why cant Americans own up and take responsibility any more. Another fine message we are teaching to our young.
Guess what? Until we, as regular Americans take responsibility for our own actions from the economy on, it will never get better and it doesn’t matter who sits in the White House as it will just be someone else to blame. You think your Grand Kids biggest worry will be a Gov dept. That’s a joke. It will be the least of their problems.

Posted by: CAW | October 2, 2009, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

“If Obama was interested in job growth he would not pursue policies that will only suck the life out of the private sector, health takeover, cap & tax, and card check labor policies, just to name three.”
keys2truth | Oct 2, 2009 8:50:52 PM
Not to question the business acumen of an anonymous poster on the internet, but I wonder why WalMart wants healthcare reform. I wonder if American manufacturers have any trouble competing with overseas opponents who do not have to pay for healthcare (and whose countries spend on average half as much per capita)? Nah. Health care reform would be Bad – the insurance lobbyists said so.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 2, 2009, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

Obama: “I’m working closely with my economic advisers to explore any and all additional options and measures that we might take to promote job creation,”.
How have I missed his proposals to reduce taxes and slash government spending? Can someone help provide me with those links?

Posted by: keys2truth | October 2, 2009, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

Could it be that Mr. Obama is looking for food in a shoe store?

Posted by: young_voter | October 2, 2009, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

@Temagami: You and Obama have one thing in common: the belief that businesses can not fail, hence the reason for the bailout. I did’t agree with the bailout. They should have been allowed to fail. Only then would they have gotten their crap in order. They were trying to protect Wall Street and capitalism. They should have let Wall Street go to crap and revamped our capitalistic system. That’s what Obama gets for trying to hold on to a corrupt system.

Posted by: Coherent1 | October 2, 2009, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

CAW, You are so right….

Posted by: someone | October 2, 2009, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

jhw539 | Oct 2, 2009 8:52:58 PM
I don’t claim business acumen for myself anymore than I assume it for you. However, you valid point hardly makes a dent in my assertion.

Posted by: keys2truth | October 2, 2009, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

CAW is on to something.

Posted by: Coherent1 | October 2, 2009, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

For those against health care reform, just keep what you have now.
For those who want jobs, start supporting companies that are still making things in the USA( http://www.locateamerican.com) Let your dollars send a message to the companies that move their production to China and elsewhere and then bring their items here for us to purchase. We have companies here that still make shoes, clothing, computers and even washing machines. If we don’t use their products do you think China will? Supporting US companies will cause a ripple effect on our economy.

Posted by: Dot | October 2, 2009, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

William Ayers. Bernadin Dohrn. Frank Marschall Davis. Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Van Jones.
Obama has been surrounding himself with radicals his whole adult life.
I think he’s well aware that he is ruining the country and returning wealth to its rightful owners.

Posted by: Colonel Rebel | October 2, 2009, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

Using the bastardization of the First Amendment as an example one might loosely make a case for Article 1, Section 8 permitting heathcare or socialism, however the general interpretation would be restricted those particular lines that follow as definition. However, that is not to say those lines couldn’t be bastardized as well.
We do poorly with elected officials, they seek our vote then go to the hill to further their own honorable selves. Sadly, we let them get away with it and even defend them according to their and our particular political stripe.
As an independent voter I could emit a chuckle if it were really funny. Instead I will point out that no matter what your politics the national debt and deficit spending that continues its increase is our CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER! To pass even one more spending bill no matter how noble the cause without first coming up with a viable plan to mitigate the national debt is sheer lunacy.
What about 2010, elect more of the same?

Posted by: Ed Taylor | October 2, 2009, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

Obama has endless excuses for the faltering recovery and the lack of “stimulus” improvements. The bottom line is that employment is out of hand and getting greater and the fiscal condition of the country is a disaster. Now he’s continuing his rape of the treasury with his socialist healthcare programs, his cap and trade insanity and multiple other insane spending programs. This poor country is going down the sewer at warp speed and the future is very, very, dim.

Posted by: rplat | October 2, 2009, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

WITHOUT CAPITALISM – WE WOULD BE LIVING AS A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY – NOT QUITE IN THE STONE AGE, BUT CLOSE! BUY THE WAY, ALL THE OTHER NATIONS IN THE WORLD CREATE ABOUT FIVE PERCENT OF NEW MEDS. GUESS WHICH COUNTRY CREATES THE OTHER NINETY -FIVE PERCENT??? TRASH CAPITALISM – HAVE AT IT. DUH!!!

Posted by: Temagami | October 2, 2009, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

Fear Not, o’ fearful ones. The country was already in dire straights. The idiots can’t fix it cause everybody’s trying to protect their own interests. It’s not Obama guys. It’s the one’s you trust.

Posted by: Coherent1 | October 2, 2009, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

I think the time has come to rename the Presidents’ “ORGANIZING FOR AMERICA” into
“apologizing for America”. Yes, the time has come to apologize but not in front of the world for America, but in front of the AMERICAN PEOPLE for continuing job losses, the loss of the leadership, the senseless spending, and polarizing our society as never before…

Posted by: H1N1hysteria | October 2, 2009, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

IF YOU CARE TO THROW IN PEOPLE WHO HAVE GIVEN UP ON SEARCHING FOR JOBS AND THOSE WHO CAN ONLY GET PART TIME JOBS, THE JOBLESS FIGURE IS AROUND SEVENTEEN PERCENT. THE ONLY THING THAT OBAMA CAN STIMULATE IS MORE GOVERNMENT JOBS. WHEN MORE PEOPLE ARE RIDING IN THE CART THAN PULLING IT – GUESS WHAT? THE CART STOPS!!!!!!!! DUH!!!

Posted by: Temagami | October 2, 2009, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

How about we quit blaming Obama for everything wrong and expecting him or our Gov to fix it. How about we take personal responsibility and own up and fix it ourselves. We certainly lent a big hand in breaking it. I guess blaming Obama and the Gov is easier than blaming ourselves. We broke it folks, not Obama or Bush. Put a Republican in the White House in 2012. It doesn’t matter as he or she will be just the next President to blame for all OUR bad decisions, bad economy and everything else that we broke. Take responsibility and quit waiting for our Gov to fix everything and I can only hope that the parents of kids are not teaching them to put blame on the Gov for all their problems. Teach your kids to take responsibility and to treat others as they would want to be treated. If they grow up with those simple yet hard values the country will move up any many ways on its own.

Posted by: CAW | October 2, 2009, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

With the demoralizing loss on finishing last at the International Olympic Committee’s city selection, President Obama may have hurt his reputation. The rumored 1.7 million that was used by the government to make a claim at hosting the Olympics in Chicago, may cause doubts about his Presidency. Obama’s celebrity status hasn’t diminished much since announcing his run for office, but that power has proved to be useless. President Obama hasn’t been able to accomplish any major feats, other than filling magazines, newspapers, and television ads. Everyone that has a somewhat understanding of politics may be questioning his true ability to govern the American people. Some may say well he is advocating the Healthcare Reform, he is nothing but a spokesperson at the moment for the reform. His speeches are becoming dull, not enlightening whatsoever anymore. He isn’t offering anything to entice the public, as well as his facts are off base a majority of the time. If healthcare is passed, it will have been just force fed to the people of this country. That is just the tip of the iceberg, this country’s foreign policy is in question as well. Iran is currently pulling the strings around the world. They have the world on edge, and all the Obama Administration suggested is serious sanctions! I suppose the administration believes Iran is going to obey kind suggestions, and prove to be diplomatic. The economy is supposedly going in the right direction, but jobless rates were up 9.8% in the month of September. So that leaves the stimulus package in question, I believe the only benefit that the stimulus package provided so far, was for the car industry and advertisers.

Posted by: Political Pluralism | October 2, 2009, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

This guy got to go!

Posted by: SeanBean | October 2, 2009, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

OK people, wake up. I have been thru a few ups and downs in my life. I remember rates on a home loan at like 17 to 21 % in the 70′s. The real people in charge allow this to distract the public from their real mission. After the last little fall in the early 90′s, people were tired of having the rug jerked out from under them. Nothing was moving. Greenspan was at a loss, and still is. Rates came down, and nothing moved, down again, and nothing moved. Stayed down long enough, that people started to believe someone finely woke up and realized that with stabilization in the interest rates, maybe they will get off the fence. Through in an article from some expert saying the rollercoaster ride is over, and more people start to have the confidence to try and better things for them self’s or family. No inflation in site, a agenda that puts any one that wants to work, to work. Paying down the national debt. That is what we, the people wanted. No inflation in site. WE GOT THEM NOW BOYS. Change the bankruptcy laws while all is good. Needed changes in some ways. Sneak the mortgage industry in there too. No one will notice right now. Every thing is now tied to the prime. Force it up, on the fake fear of inflation. Start a bull s-it war, were we have no bis being there, as they have their own twisted way of thinking, and wipe out the gains we have made to pay down the debt and strengthen the dollar. Things tighten up some more and the working families edge there cards up trying to ride out the tide. Lets let the thieves in the oil industry, or better yet the ones that play with the money, push energy through the roof. What do they care, they could never spend what they have. The last straw, the credit card company’s do their triple didjet rate hikes on the public trying to drive the last nail in the coffin. I am starting to wonder if the currant administration is not following the last to usher in the New World Order. Just follow the time lines.

Posted by: harley93 | October 2, 2009, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

I still don’t think this guy has a clue about what the hell he is suppose to be doing. Instead of meeting with his administration about the economy, afghanistan, healthcare, and all of the current foreign problems he is off to Copenhagen to catch a far off event that part of Chicago didn’t even want. This guy needs to start reevaluating just what he was elected to do.
If he can’t get it right real damn quick 4 and out.

Posted by: HarryinLA | October 2, 2009, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

And I post the last as a government distraction

Posted by: harley93 | October 2, 2009, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

Job loses are not Obama’s fault. How many Americans bought what they couldn’t afford. How many Americans supported foreign owned companies and products instead of American made products and services. We we had our fun and over spent and usually spent making another country and its workers rich. Now we are paying for bad decisions we made and you want to blame Obama that has been is office less than a year. If we switch Presidents in three years we will just blame that person. Give me a break. Take responsibility America because until we do it wont get better and unless we can admit and learn from our mistakes it will happen again. We messed up and now bash our Gov for not fixing everything in a few months. Get real and get back to basics. Look in the mirror and start there.

Posted by: CAW | October 2, 2009, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

I hope that Obama’s abysmal failure to lure the 2016′s Olympics to Chicago will teach him that his popularity is running low. Perhaps his failure to capitalize on his “charisma” is an embarrassment so great that he will pull back from his self proclaimed ego trips in which he is not prepared, but in which he depends solely on his enlarged narcissisim. He needs to spend more time being president than taking all manner of highly publicized trips which satisfy nothing but his monstrous narcissism. He needs to realize that the campaign is over. He won this round. So stay at home and do what you were elected to do!

Posted by: Rudy | October 2, 2009, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

Obama spent 25 minutes today with the top commander of Afghanistan.
He gave Leno and Letterman an hour.
Obama was set up to be the Democrats figurehead. Give pretty speeches and peddle his charm.
He is not a leader. He has no guts.
In the Senate he voted present 130 times
and he is still avoiding the tough decisions as president.

Posted by: bailey | October 2, 2009, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

The road to recovery is on track and is moving ahead better than expected when you considered the disaster the GOP/Conservative coalition government of Bush/Cheney left the state of or country.
A year ago we were on the brink of real financial danger and ruins – on par or greater than the Great Depression. The development of Great panic of October 2008 started in 2005 and climax in October 2008.
So it is going to take a least three years to get back to robust growth based on productivity.
Remember it was the GOP/Conservatives who caused the Great Panic of 2008 and then did real damage by holding back and delaying the necessary funds to rescue the broken financial system, thus, drove greater losses of equity in the stock market in return created job losses across all sectors.

Posted by: threeriverscrossing | October 2, 2009, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

When things go wrong the first thing that happens is- both political party’s blame each other and the prolem that needs to be fixed is ignored.
Just look at all the negative commemts each of you have to say out there about who’s to blame. The fact is our economy can not sustain it self with out jobs.
The stimulis money was not geard to create jobs. So stop backing Obama’s idea of taxing the rich to stop creating jobs. Because thats what is happening. We are a capitalist country.
CAPITALIST CREATE AN ECONOMY AND JOBS.
SOCIALIST CREATE UN-EMPLOYMENT LINES LIKE WE ARE NOW HAVING ON OBAMA’S WATCH.IT DOES’NT MATTER WHO’S TO BLAME. WHAT MATTERS IS FIXING THE PROBLEM NOW!!!! GIVE THE MONEY TO THE PEOPLE TO SPEND INSTEAD OF GIVING IT TO BANKS AND MORE BAIOL OUTS.

Posted by: John Demeter | October 2, 2009, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

Why is Obama telling us to conserve energy, to go green, to be conscious of the environment but he and the First lady took 2 SEPARATE FLIGHTS to a non-political event in Denmark when he should have been at home doing his job like… addressing a spike in unemployment !
Will we EVER have a chance to elect a great man, and not settle for voting for what we feel is the lesser of 2 evils.

Posted by: Mark Stachowski | October 2, 2009, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

“The economy is supposedly going in the right direction, but jobless rates were up 9.8% in the month of September.”
I think you meant to say the jobless rate was up to 9.8% in September. That’s up 0.1% since last month.

Posted by: Numeros | October 2, 2009, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

And boy did Obama’s buddy take a hit on all that property he bought in preparation to sell it back to the city for Olympic venues.
Justice served !!!!!

Posted by: Mark | October 2, 2009, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

Two-faced and double dealing Mr Obama will sidestep the blame on the econonmy if it gets worse. To the Americans, he says, “Yes we can”. To the world, he says, “America cannot do it alone”.

Posted by: young_voter | October 2, 2009, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

OBAMA NEEDS TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND STUDY THE PRINCIPLES CAPITALISM AND APPLY THEM NOW TO GET US OUT THE MESS
CREATED BY THOSE IN CONGRESS WHO FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THAT SOCIALISM APPLIED TO THE MASSES DOES NOT WORK.

Posted by: John Demeter | October 2, 2009, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

John Demeter: To sustain a health economy and high employment requires real productivity.
Productivity produces job not capitalists. Capitalism is one necessary to create innovation within the market system.
However, our system is a trust and partnership of the private, public and government sectors which we can leverage checks and balances far greater than socialism can offer.
Sustaining an economy with jobs is not necessary hallmark of capitalism or socialism in their its purest forms.

Posted by: threeriverscrossing | October 2, 2009, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

$787 billion to create jobs.
Where are the jobs!!!
Stop wasting our money.

Posted by: millie | October 2, 2009, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

CAW, although I appreciate and agree with your perspective on personal responsibility, I don’t necessarily agree this is the root problem. I think the housing market was the deal breaker. I personally know many people were using equity from their bloated home values to spend (which didn’t seem to be a problem for anyone because home prices were rising.) Well, the market has plummeted through no fault of most citizens. Too many people were getting homes that shouldn’t have been. There were reasons for needing 20% equity up front years ago to buy a home. All of a sudden, many people didn’t need a penny to put down for a home. If you didn’t need equity up front, why not buy a home? Builders couldn’t build fast enough to deal with the homeowner expansion. Prices climbed. And people started spending their equity. The spending isn’t happening anymore. People are losing their homes because they got into homes they shouldn’t have qualified for. Prices have plummeted due to the glut of homes out there. People are no longer able to take out the equity loans due to being “upside-down.” The economy will eventually recover by itself. But it will take time for housing and the stock market to turn around. I’m not convinced the stock market is stabile yet. Once housing and stocks stabilize and start to increase, spending will come back. Jobs will begin to be created. The government could be doing things to help stabilize the housing market. McCain mentioned this in his campaign. No one knows what could have been, but at least McCain was saying the housing market needed to be stabilized. All I hear from BO and the Libs is threats to industries (where jobs are located), increasing energy costs because of “global warming,” and nationalizing healthcare. None of this is going to create jobs. The “stimulus” was nothing but pork pet projects.

Posted by: BK-1970 | October 2, 2009, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

Everyone said from the onset that this was going to be a long and hard recession with little or no job growth at the beginning. Many of these jobs are gone for good. We need to stop wishing for manufacturing jobs to come back and start working on new technologies and green jobs. That is the future not manufacturing.

Posted by: Robert kellogg | October 2, 2009, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

BK. I agree with you. The show is long tirm. Who realy watched?

Posted by: harley93 | October 2, 2009, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

I’ll quit blaming Obama for everything going down when he quits blaming Bush. When I heard them say we didn’t get the Olympics because of Bush I just about fell off my chair. When is it Obama’s fault? The Dems have done more damage to this country than anybody. Like loaning people money with nothing down and poor credit and when they didn’t pay it crippled the economy. I’m so glad they turned him down, we can’t afford anymore waste. Now Bank of America who I had a credit card with (paid it off) now sent me a letter with a notice of a 29.9% interest rate and a 20 day pay period. They are screwing the wrong people and now they have ties to Acorn. I will never do business with BOA again. I hope they all go down. I’m very glad Brazil got it. Obama you need to do your job and quit running around wasting our money. I hope they expose all of the fraud and abuse from these crooks.

Posted by: Pat Smith | October 2, 2009, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

This country has a serious problem with having an inexperienced President. He’s already to jump on agreements with Iran without holding sanctions out to prevent them from enriching more uranium. He is not taken seriously and has not received any concessions from India or China on climate change. He gave into Putin to not install a missile shield. Chavez has pushed him around. He has sided with the former Honduran President who illegally wanted to change the Constitution of Honduras. He has let pelosi and the Dems in Congress run all the bills and doesn’t understand the bills as written. We have a figurehead as President. Now he appears to be listening to Biden, Levin and Kerry on Afghanistan instead of the general who he gave all of 25 minutes to at the airport. He is all talk and no substance. That;s is what you elected.

Posted by: jschmidt | October 2, 2009, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

Quote: “The president pointed to the Recovery Act as an important component of that progress and suggested that health care reform would further assist in creating jobs.”
Gravity is going to reverse itself before that happens!

Posted by: keys2truth | October 2, 2009, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

Guys,
This is how the government works. When they get together and start to give numbers, they would pad it up so that people will feel good when it get worse. So if they say that they predict that the unemployment will reach past 10%, what they are saying privately in those meetings that it will go only as high as 8%.

Posted by: young_voter | October 2, 2009, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

So if they are saying they expect to create 3.5 millions jobs, what they are really spending for is for 5 millions jobs. So when only 3 millions jobs are saved or created, they say that their target is within the margin of errors. If I have 1 trillion dollars, I can create jobs too.

Posted by: young_voter | October 2, 2009, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

“Since the period last winter when we were losing an average of 700,000 jobs per month, we’ve certainly made some progress on this front,” Obama said.
This is not progress Mr President it
is mathematics and logic!
The same companies do not lay off
workers month after month.
Therefore there are less companies
laying off workers as the year
progresses and therefore the number of
layoffs per month goes down.
Despite the president’s “happy talk”
there are no visable signs of recovery.
Banks continue to close.
Foreclosures on homes continue to
be high.
The banks are not lending more freely
in spite of the government bailout.
GM and Chrysler are still floundering
after billions of our tax dollars
were given to them.
The unemployment rate has gone from
8 percent to 9.8 percent since the
stimulus bill was rushed through
Congress in February(only 15 percent
has been spent).
What recovery are you talking about,
Mr President?

Posted by: reaganfan | October 2, 2009, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

“I’ll quit blaming Obama for everything going down when he quits blaming Bush. When I heard them say we didn’t get the Olympics because of Bush I just about fell off my chair.”
Posted by Pat Smith
Are you claiming that Obama said Bush was to blame for us not getting the Olympics?

Posted by: WWW | October 2, 2009, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

obamas popularity is slipping away here and internationally. that is what we get when we elect a non-qualified candidate-with no experience.
obama needs to stop campaigning for president of the world and get to work doing the job he was elected to do.

Posted by: mae g | October 2, 2009, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

For all the lovers of Socialism I dare you to give me one name of a country based on that philosphy where the people are free to make their own way, make their own decisions, make and keep the money they work for and earn or are they just slaves to their government. I though we ended slavery why do you want so badly to bring it back. I happen to enjoy being free to make my own choices like what I’m going to eat, which doctor I go to, what car I drive, where I live, etc. Russians are so miserable they just stay drunk all the time, the Chinese live on rice and work long hours for little money. I happen to like to make my own choices, keep the fruits of my labors and teach my children what I want them to know.

Posted by: Pat Smith | October 2, 2009, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

Any educated person knows job losses are the last component of an economy to recover from a recession. Republican propaganda will not deter this president or his voting bloc!

Posted by: JOE | October 2, 2009, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

I heard a guy on Fox say that we didn’t get the Olympics because of Bush. I’m just quoting what I heard somebody else say. I wonder when does Obama take responsibility for what goes on. Is he and his friends going to blame Bush for the next 4 to 8 years. What a convenient scape goat. He wanted the White House job but is it above his pay grade? When is it his doing either good or bad? When is he going to take responsibility?

Posted by: Pat Smith | October 2, 2009, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

Open up Alaska’s ANWAR and get the oil and gas pipelines built! That will provide millions of jobs for America and get us off our dependence from foreign oil. Screw the environmentalists and their game of illusionary tactics!

Posted by: Zzzmac | October 2, 2009, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

“I heard a guy on Fox say that we didn’t get the Olympics because of Bush. I’m just quoting what I heard somebody else say. I wonder when does Obama take responsibility for what goes on. Is he and his friends going to blame Bush for the next 4 to 8 years.”
Posted by Pat Smith
Um, so this “guy” you heard on Fox was one of Obama’s friends?

Posted by: WWW | October 3, 2009, 12:02 am 12:02 am

Speaking of FOX, a Sacred Heart University poll found that Fox News was, by far, the LEAST trusted news organization. Fox News Channel’s Bill O’Reilly said: “For doing the study, the folks at Sacred Heart are patriots.”

Posted by: WWW | October 3, 2009, 12:04 am 12:04 am

Some of the best economic news in months:
“President Obama’s top climate and energy official said Friday that there was virtually no chance Congress would have a climate and energy bill ready for him to sign before negotiations on a global climate treaty begin in December in Copenhagen. The remarks by the official, Carol M. Browner, during an onstage interview in Washington, were the first definitive statement by the administration that it saw little chance of Congressional passage this fall.”

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | October 3, 2009, 12:11 am 12:11 am

“Um, so this ‘guy’ you heard on Fox was one of Obama’s friends?”
The guy I heard say that on Fox was the estimable Senator Roland Burress, who I certainly assume is one of Obama’s friends.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | October 3, 2009, 12:13 am 12:13 am

I’m glad you brought up Alaska. I had just looked up photos of Prudhoe Bay where Todd Palin has worked and it doesn’t look anything like Gore would have you believe or the pictures Gore presented. It’s a big flat barren place with a rocky shoreline and animals walking around. They also did a recent study about the effect on nesting birds and they have actually increased because they have more places to build their nests that are protected. We are being fed a ton of lies about global warming. I live in Kansas and we have had the coldest summer I’ve ever seen and I’m 62 years old. Right now it’s 49 degrees outside. It’s freezing and in the past it was still hot now. Weather patterns change naturally and man is being conceited in thinking we are changing it. We need to start building America up not tearing it down. I buy American all the time and American companies that have moved to China, I write to them and tell them I will never buy from them again. Pfaltzgraff dinnerware is one company, it used to be in Pennsylvania and I bought from them because they were American made, now they moved to China. I’ve written to them several times telling them I would never buy now. I just bought Fiesta ware for my Daughter because it’s American made. I’m buying safe toys for the kids too. No more Chinese goods for me, we are being poisoned by them.

Posted by: Pat Smith | October 3, 2009, 12:14 am 12:14 am

Sacred Heart University poll, September, 2009:
“Those named most frequently as the television news organization most trusted for accurate reporting in 2009 included: Fox News (30.0%), CNN (19.5%), NBC News (7.5%) and ABC News (7.5%).
“Fox News was also the television news organization trusted least. Just over one-quarter, 26.2%, named Fox News, followed by NBC News (9.9%), MSNBC (9.4%), CNN (8.5%), CBS News (5.3%) and ABC News (3.7%).”
Why did WWW not mention the first part? Isn’t he willing to be fair and balanced?

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | October 3, 2009, 12:18 am 12:18 am

“Why did WWW not mention the first part? Isn’t he willing to be fair and balanced?”
I was simply giving the SHU study the same spin O’Reilly did when he only mentioned the first part.
Heh.

Posted by: WWW | October 3, 2009, 12:21 am 12:21 am

More from the Sacred Heart poll that WWW seemed to like so much before (maybe not so much now):
“Researchers asked respondents which television news organization they turned to most frequently. The top five news organizations were Fox News (28.4% – up from 26.5% in 2007), CNN (14.9% – down from 16.0% in 2007), NBC News (10.6% – down from 11.8% in 2007), ABC News (9.3% – down from 11.0% in 2007), and “local news” (7.6% – down from 8.5% in 2007). Other organizations respondents turned to most frequently included CBS News (7.4%), MSNBC (4.3%), PBS News (1.3%), CNBC (0.6%) and CBN (0.1%).
“Respondents were asked if they selected their favorite because they offer objective reporting or because they view the issues as they did. In results that were nearly three-to-one, 59.0% suggested they made their selection based on objective reporting, while 19.0% chose their favorite because they share the same views on issues.”
Fair, balanced and unafraid–and absolutely infuriating to the goofballs.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | October 3, 2009, 12:21 am 12:21 am

Health care reform will only create more government jobs and bureaucracy. They have cut funds to train new doctors in half, I know that because my Daughter trained at KU Medical School and they announced that. At Harvard they cancelled the Primary Care training program. If they pass the HR3200 it has a clause where hospitals will not be allowed to expand and we already have a nurse shortage. Many don’t want to work as nurses because it is a hard and dirty job and they don’t get paid much. A doctor in Canada gets paid $25,000 per year. American doctors won’t work that cheap, they are smart people who will go do something else that pays better. Everybody will not get good care, we will get long waits and denial of care. Take a number like at the DMV if this passes.

Posted by: Pat Smith | October 3, 2009, 12:27 am 12:27 am

“A new study by Sacred Heart University in Connecticut says that Fox News is THE most trusted television news network in the USA. 30% of Americans say FNC is their most credible source of information. Second was CNN at 19%. Waaay down the list – NBC news 7 ½ %. For doing the study, the folks at Sacred Heart are patriots.” -Bill O’Reilly
If good old Bill is interested in being “Fair and Balanced” in his “No Spin Zone” why didn’t he mention that Fox News was the least trusted news organization?

Posted by: WWW | October 3, 2009, 12:31 am 12:31 am

If we could get some true reporting, the jobless number is approaching one in five considering those that have given up looking for work or are off of unemployment insurance. Those that are watching the market and a handful of positive indicators, and comments like clueless Joe Biden makes are doing so at their peril. There is outrage building that the “chattering class” is missing that is going to have consequences in the next election.

Posted by: Ralph | October 3, 2009, 12:35 am 12:35 am

President Obama reacted to the spike in job losses reported today by the Department of Labor upon his return from a failed Olympic bid in Copenhagen.
Who woulda thought that all it would take was a spike in job losses to get his attention? I for one, am both saddened and greatful to them if they have “peaked his interest”

Posted by: ShesmySarah | October 3, 2009, 12:39 am 12:39 am

At least with a Republican president there were jobs and unemployment rate was not at 9.8%. There was at least hope. The only thing you can be sure of with Obama is higher taxes and high unemployment along with more lies.
How are people going to pay this forced health care premium with unemployment and no income coming in? How are you going to pay additional fees for Cap and Tax?
Newly unemployed will only lead to more mortgage meltdowns..

Posted by: bailedout | October 3, 2009, 12:41 am 12:41 am

Since he is my president, I am allowed to express my dissatisfaction at his job performance so far. Don’t try to blindside me with the previous administration,they had their own problems.I’m talking about this one. So far, not good.

Posted by: ShesmySarah | October 3, 2009, 12:44 am 12:44 am

…a Republican president….
Posted by: bailedout
-squandered the Clinton surplus,
-caught napping on 9•11/couldn’t keep America safe
-destroyed the economy
-invaded the wrong country
-couldn’t win in Afghanistan
-never caught Bin Laden
-let New Orleans drown
- never resolved N. Korea
- never resolved Iran

Posted by: Et Tu Brute | October 3, 2009, 1:09 am 1:09 am

“Respondents were asked if they selected their favorite because they offer objective reporting or because they view the issues as they did. In results that were nearly three-to-one, 59.0% suggested they made their selection based on objective reporting, while 19.0% chose their favorite because they share the same views on issues.”
Fair, balanced and unafraid–and absolutely infuriating to the
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Hmmm…. They find it objective because it expresses their views. That is all there is to it.

Posted by: Thinking | October 3, 2009, 1:19 am 1:19 am

Obama needs to become a leader-not a member of an elitist New England and S.F. cult with a tie to radicals from Chicago. America is falling apart, especially the inner cities(witness Chicago killing of a decent kid). The inner cities all over America are in a shambles due to the drug dealing that goes on among the youth and anytime you mention it, you are called a racist. Get busy Obama and close the darn border, put the drug dealers in jail forever and then the kids can have hope or continue the same path, blame it on racism and watch America come completely unglued. Have we no guts anymore-How about it journalists?

Posted by: rockychance | October 3, 2009, 1:35 am 1:35 am

Since he is my president, I am allowed to express my dissatisfaction at his job performance so far. Don’t try to blindside me with the previous administration,they had their own problems.I’m talking about this one. So far, not good.
Posted by: ShesmySarah | Oct 3, 2009 12:44:58 AM
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but the problems this adminstration is dealing with has a direct tie to the prior adminstration. Obama didn’t create these issues. They were left for him to clean up…….and anyone who fails to recognize that can’t be blindsided because you can’t blindside those who refuse to see!!

Posted by: dk | October 3, 2009, 1:47 am 1:47 am

unfortunately obama’s solutions for those “inherited problems” are causing much bigger problems for this country. his solutions are rushed and ill advised and not working…we’re not creating jobs and our country is drowning in debt. that stimulus (that no one had time to read) is a joke.

Posted by: wow | October 3, 2009, 2:08 am 2:08 am

According to Sen. Tom Coburn’s pork report your tax dollars were wasted today in this manner…
Money intended for soldiers fighting war is instead being spent on senators’ home-state pet projects
Defense spending bill contains an earmark that has nothing to do with national defense, $20 million for an institute honoring late Senator Ted Kennedy
Maryland Senator earmarks tens of millions of dollars in a defense spending bill for her top campaign donors
New Jersey receives $4.8 million earmark to increase the size of Long Beach Island beaches and dunes
National Science Foundation hands out taxpayer cash in experiment to determine if birth order affects willingness to make risky economic decisions
Federal grant pays to design and build an exhibit about the significance of lacrosse

Posted by: wow | October 3, 2009, 2:22 am 2:22 am

I’m sure glad Obama failed to get the Olympics to Chicago. That would have been a massive spending spree that would have had a marginal impact on the economy, though it would have certainly hurt our future standing in the world by staddling America with horrific debt. Where is the leadership? Stop looking for pork, and starting saying “maybe not” to some people, pork, and bull. It’s not all good.

Posted by: Patrick | October 3, 2009, 2:43 am 2:43 am

My son has had to move home because of job cuts, and has had some mighty fierce competition when a good job is available. O’bama is doing what? Wait, ask him when he’s back from his trip to promote Chicago? Isn’t that the MAYORS job????

Posted by: Deborah | October 3, 2009, 2:54 am 2:54 am

He’s wasting our time and money on absolutely ridicules pet projects.
Every time someone puts the President down, there is a scream of “but Bush did…”, “you just don’t like him”… you catch my drift. It’s like my young children when they break something and blame the kid in the kid in the other room for having done it 3 years before.
We are not a nation of left and right split down the middle. We are a nation of Americans. If someone doesn’t like what the current President does – who cares?! Voice it and vote them out next time around.
Easy as pie.
Toss the teleprompters and listen to the people!

Posted by: Monica | October 3, 2009, 3:23 am 3:23 am

dk& anyone who doesn’t see where their tax dollars are going: You want to continue to feed money into business that willl only drain your dollars with nothing to show for it?? come on! I’ll gladly help someone who will get in there & do it beside me….but to fund something without KNOWING WHAT YOU’RE PAYING FOR is nuts! The stimulus payments that are absolutely flying out the door are crazy! And your kids and mine will pay for them. It’s a spending spree, it should be a budget reconciliation. Lower income people need to have jobs, that are just not availble today. If every parent were legally required to financially support their chidren, we wouldn’t have the welfare system we have today. Instead, biological fahers are allowed to become “deadbeat dads” with no repercussions while the community at large pays for their childrens’ upbringing. I’m fed up.

Posted by: Deborah | October 3, 2009, 3:31 am 3:31 am

With all those bail outs and stimuli one would expect better figures than these for unemployment. It proves that stimuli do not work. Employers will not hire and will fire. You need to stimulate confidence rather than putting money where it doesn’t work Obama needs to take a step back and think.

Posted by: kottaras | October 3, 2009, 3:40 am 3:40 am

A ”sobering reminder” of what a mistake it was to vote for Obama, if anyone should lose his job, he’d be the first one I’d fire – followed by all the left-wing nutjobs that now infest our gov’t.
But in 2010, we have a chance to fire the irresponsible incompetents in Congress – if anyone deserves to lose their cushy over-paid jobs, it’s certainly our Congressmen.
Now that’s what I call ”hope & change”!!!!!!

Posted by: Terry | October 3, 2009, 4:50 am 4:50 am

Wingnuts, Your hero Mr Reagan destroyed this country when he put into motion an economic plan that insured 99% of the wealth would be controled by 1% of the population. Your hero Mr. Reagan was a puppet President who was owned and controlled by big business. You might want to think about that as you sit on your front porch drinking cheap beer and watching your washing machine finish it’s rinse cycle.

Posted by: jim | October 3, 2009, 5:39 am 5:39 am

dk& anyone who doesn’t see where their tax dollars are going: You want to continue to feed money into business that willl only drain your dollars with nothing to show for it?? come on! I’ll gladly help someone who will get in there & do it beside me….but to fund something without KNOWING WHAT YOU’RE PAYING FOR is nuts! The stimulus payments that are absolutely flying out the door are crazy! And your kids and mine will pay for them. It’s a spending spree, it should be a budget reconciliation. Lower income people need to have jobs, that are just not availble today. If every parent were legally required to financially support their chidren, we wouldn’t have the welfare system we have today. Instead, biological fahers are allowed to become “deadbeat dads” with no repercussions while the community at large pays for their childrens’ upbringing. I’m fed up.
Posted by: Deborah | Oct 3, 2009 3:31:05 AM
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that’s funny I don’t remember seeing you complaining when your tax dollars were being spent in the form of the record deficits we saw the past decade. And don’t get me started about paying tax money to raise others kids….do your kids go to public school? I don’t have children but surely no-one has lowered my taxes. I pay higher rates while you write off your children at my expense. I’ll be listening closely to hear you complain about the tax money single people with no children pay out to make up for what you saving to write your off but I expect to hear VERY LITTLE!!!!! You want to talk about fed up? How about the feds eliminate the child write off and you actually pay your fair share. You had them so pay for them!!!
And are you sure you want to talk about welfare? When was the last time a Republican President did anything to change the welfare system? ENOUGH SAID!!!

Posted by: dk | October 3, 2009, 5:45 am 5:45 am

independents, republicans voted for obama because change was needed but there hasn’t been that much change, if any. many voted for obama because of palin. what past presidents, of either party, have done or not done is not the issue. that was then, this is now. obama needs to work on the nation’s business not on foolishness such as the olympics coming to chicago. obama has no focus and seems to lack management skills such as setting goals and objectives, performance measurements. he is leading by throwing every thing at the wall and hoping something sticks. congress is at fault too as they rubber stamp anything obama says or does. vote democrats out of congress this next election since they are really part of the problem. as for obama, he is looking like a one term potus. obama is another carter.

Posted by: lawrence | October 3, 2009, 6:24 am 6:24 am

The stimulus didn’t because it was the wrong approach. It did nothing for small business which is where the jobs need to be created. As soon as it is gone, the “stimulus” government jobs will vanish. Had they just cut taxes, it would have been instant and effective. Growing business is the solution.

Posted by: bryan | October 3, 2009, 6:27 am 6:27 am

I agree with some of that….we need to vote EVERYONE out of Congress. Remove them in the primaries and then lets get on with the elections. I personally don’t care how the cards fall as long as there is no-one left who was an incumbent. That is the CHANGE we need……how many of you will vote against the name you know, especially if he represents your party? I already do….will you?

Posted by: dk | October 3, 2009, 6:29 am 6:29 am

Obama should have worked on healthcare, jobs and the wars instead of focusing on getting the Olympics for Chicago and his crooked friends. His 24 hour trip to Denmark cost the US taxpayers 10 million dollars.

Posted by: CW | October 3, 2009, 7:22 am 7:22 am

Obama truly doesn’t have a clue.

Posted by: JiM | October 3, 2009, 7:24 am 7:24 am

The reason there is NO JOB’S in the U.S.A. most of the manufacturing plant have been out source to other countries for cheep labor!!!!shame on the CEO’S of these manufacturing plant !
“Our government let this happen to the working class people
of the U.S.A.”!
U.S.A. DON’T MAKE ANYTHING ANYMORE!!!
YOU CANT FIND LABELS ON ANYTHING YOU BUY STAMP WITH MADE IN THE U.S.A.ON STUFF IN WAL-MART,KMART OR EVEN THE MALL’S!
BRING BACK THE MANUFACTURING PLANTS and you will put the America people back to work!
We the U.S.A. use to be a self sufficient country of economic consumption
not no more it was removed from our hands.
U.S.A. was “the country’s largest manufacturer in the world “ITS GONE NOW!
“BAN THE OUT SOURCED MANUFACTURING PLANTS FROM SELLING THERE PRODUCTS
BACK TO THE U.S.A” TEACH THEM A LESSON FOR MOVING THERE PLANTS OUT OF THE U.S.A.!
PUT THE GOLD STANDARD AND MANUFACTURING PLANTS BACK IN PLACE FOR THE U.S.A.!
AND WE WILL TURN THE UNTIED STATES AROUND FROM THIS RECESSION!

Posted by: Brendett NC | October 3, 2009, 7:57 am 7:57 am

THREE MORE BANKS FAILED YESTERDAY. We’re up to 98 this year. Just more evidence that Obama saved the financial system and the economy is turning around!!
As expected, the link isn’t on ABC News’ front page. Instead it’s buried in their “Money” section. But we can readily find pictures of cross-dressing Hollywood actors. YES WE CAN!

Posted by: Mary | October 3, 2009, 7:59 am 7:59 am

The administration pushed the ‘stimulus’ plan through on fears that, without it, unemployment would rise above 9%. The justification for the ‘stimulus’ was to keep unemployment below 8%. ‘The best and brightest’ said trust us. Their plan has not only not worked but unemployment is far beyond even their own doomsday scenarios. Now Obama was us to ‘trust’ him on healthcare. I don’t think so.

Posted by: bct | October 3, 2009, 8:12 am 8:12 am

Adding more government jobs is not helping anyone. Never holding a real job in his life is a real problem for Obama.
Whatever the question is, for Obama the answer is more government.
Someone else will always pay.

Posted by: drjohn | October 3, 2009, 8:17 am 8:17 am

$787 billion in (patronage) spending, massive federal deficits, untold waste, fraud, nepotism and corruption for 9.7% unemployment. Our taxes and our children and grandchildren’s well being have been sold for the sole benefit; power and wealth of the current rotten political class. Any representative who voted for this pork fest is a criminal and should be throw out of office at the very least.

Posted by: bct | October 3, 2009, 8:18 am 8:18 am

Just in case you have all forgotten.
1) Iraq war started by a Christian (huge monumental blunder) – BUSH
2) Afgan war w/no clue how to fight – BUSH
2) Worst economic desaster since the great depression – BUSH
3) $4 gas – BUSH
4) No banker or lending regulations – BUSH
I’d like all of Obama haters to follow that BUSH show and see how fast you’d be able to fix the mess!!!

Posted by: Jackson | October 3, 2009, 8:25 am 8:25 am

Brendett NC | Oct 3, 2009 7:57:57 AM
…..I think manufacturers would be more inclined to have their plants in the USA if the Federal tax rates were not the highest in the world.

Posted by: deanbob | October 3, 2009, 8:25 am 8:25 am

Yes, Bush did some things that were not the best for the country, but Obama has been in office long enough to chart his own course and take responsibility for his actions. Many of the country’s problems go back to Johnson’s adminstration. Speaking of $4 a gallon gas, we’re headed back there. But the process could be slowed by drilling; drilling would put people back to work and bring much needed taxes and royalties to the govt coffers. The onus to di that falls on Obama’s shoulders.

Posted by: deanbob | October 3, 2009, 8:33 am 8:33 am

Jim:”Wingnuts, Your hero Mr Reagan destroyed this country when he put into motion an economic plan that insured 99% of the wealth would be controled by 1% of the population.”
Honestly? That’s an interesting spin. Today’s unemployment rate is the highest since 1983, Reagan’s first year in office. Reagan inherited a much larger mess than Obama. The major difference in their strategies is Reagan cut Social Security spending (I remember, I lost benefits), and dramatically cut income and corporate taxes, giving real hope to every American that the economy could turn around. And it did. All in a time of war.
They playbook is out there. Obama just needs to follow it.

Posted by: Woody | October 3, 2009, 8:35 am 8:35 am

Mary | Oct 3, 2009 7:59:58 AM
…..You may have forgotten to add ‘Hollywood actors’ who are trying to excuse Roman Polanski for what he admitted to doing.

Posted by: deanbob | October 3, 2009, 8:36 am 8:36 am

Yet these new numbers don’t account for the roughly 500,000 people who quit looking for jobs last month alone. The media is yet again giving Obama an easy pass. This is already a failed administration. It will only get worse folks.

Posted by: Ryan | October 3, 2009, 8:45 am 8:45 am

I loved President Reagan. His first year in office was 1981. <

Posted by: KylefromWaco | October 3, 2009, 8:48 am 8:48 am

Instead of spending all the millions to
plead a hopeless case in demnark, obama
should have stayed home and tried to work on the unemployment problem we are
facing here.

Posted by: Don Marietta | October 3, 2009, 8:49 am 8:49 am

An old quote comes to mind, “It ain’t over till it’s over”. There actually was a little good news in the numbers. 53,000 of the jobs lost were government jobs.

Posted by: Old Republican | October 3, 2009, 8:50 am 8:50 am

Congratulations Rush Limbaugh. When you said you wanted Obama to fail I had no idea how much this country would follow you. I’ve never in all my life see so many people wanting a our president to fail. You’re all doing a great job at making it as impossible as one can make to get things fixed. Lets bring BUSH back. Maybe he can invade Peru. I hear they “might” have weapons of mass destruction. Hey, whay’s another few thousand lives to destroy. After all, the billions spent on a bogus war certainly hasn’t effected the economy.

Posted by: Jackson | October 3, 2009, 8:50 am 8:50 am

It’s official! Obama and Dems $1 trillion “stimulus” has failed. China has already emerged from recession. They implemented a stimulus targeting direct spending on infrastructure. Dems own this unemployment mess.

Posted by: g_sh_08 | October 3, 2009, 8:57 am 8:57 am

“Adding more government jobs is not helping anyone.”
True since the private sector funds the public sector (a fact lost on libs). But even government job creation isn’t all that impressive.
Even more disturbing, a large chunk of the “stimulus” money spent so far is being used to extend unemployment benefits and Medicaid payments. How does sending out more WELFARE create new jobs? Lefties never seem to have an answer to that question.

Posted by: Jenn | October 3, 2009, 9:04 am 9:04 am

Jackson:”Congratulations Rush Limbaugh. When you said you wanted Obama to fail I had no idea how much this country would follow you.”
Let’s include the entire statement, shall we? Limbaugh said he hoped Obama fails because he hopes Liberalism fails. What is so shocking about that? How many Liberals do you know who were cheering for Bush to succeed? Judging by the comments right here in this thread I would say: zero.
Obama is misinterpreting his “Anyone But Bush” victory as some sort of Liberal mandate to overturn our institutions. Most Americans are not so radical. He’s already lost the independent voting block that swept him in. It’s not that “much of the country is following Limbaugh”, it’s that much of the country, now that they have a clear understanding of what “change” means in practice, have no appetite for it.

Posted by: Woody | October 3, 2009, 9:07 am 9:07 am

“I’ve never in all my life see so many people wanting a our president to fail.”
Apparently you were asleep during the Bush years.

Posted by: Mary | October 3, 2009, 9:08 am 9:08 am

Jackson – The typical numbering order is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5; not 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5.
Anyway, I think the whole economic collapse was blown way out of proportion in the beginning to make sure Obama got elected. Once the media had scared the country to death, it really collapsed – hence where we are today. And Obama doesn’t really want to fix it, he wants everyone to become dependent on the government.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | October 3, 2009, 9:09 am 9:09 am

Obama not ready for Prime Time! Vote this idiot out!!!!

Posted by: L. Thomas | October 3, 2009, 9:11 am 9:11 am

What I want to know is how this so-called insurance reform is going to create jobs? If you are forcing small businesses, who currently can’t afford to provide healthcare insurance for their employees to provide insurance or pay an additional tax, people will lose jobs and some businesses will close.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | October 3, 2009, 9:12 am 9:12 am

Has anyone ever watched a show on TV called “NUMB3RS”? It is a crime/drama/mystery where a mathematician fights for truth, justice and the american way. I came across an episode the other night. It answered a question that has been “nagging” at me for the longest time. The ol’ boy who writes this show must be the one who supplies all the “jobs saved” numbers to the government!

Posted by: Old Republican | October 3, 2009, 9:21 am 9:21 am

“So, if you really think that President Obama is doing a terrible job, then, (A) You clearly don’t understand how hard it is to turn a nation’s economy around (things don’t happen overnight), and (B) you probably should go take some economics classes.”
It’s so cute when libs try to present “facts.” The fact is that Reagan’s approach to combating unemployment (lowering taxes) was diametrically opposed to what Obama is doing (creating a welfare state).
Currently, unemployment is ACCELERATING despite record amounts of spending. And promised new taxes on the private sector will really hurt future job growth. A year from now, you’ll be eating your words.
Oh, incidentally, the BLS measures unemployment differently now compared to Reagan’s era. The current unemployment situation is MUCH worse than it was in the 80′s. In many states, it has exceeded Great Depression levels already. Michigan, anyone?

Posted by: Jenn | October 3, 2009, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Jenn Said: “It’s so cute when libs try to present “facts.” The fact is that Reagan’s approach to combating unemployment (lowering taxes) was diametrically opposed to what Obama is doing (creating a welfare state).”
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LOL….. yes Jenn, Reagan “lowered taxes”, but did he reduce government spending? Answer: “No”… he lowered taxes while simultaneously borrowing, HUMONGOUSLY, to fund Department of Defense projects during his 8 years in office.
You really think that Reagan’s “reduce taxes” was what helped him pull out of the recession he was in? Go look at the National Debt under Reagan, and then, go look at government expenditures on military contracts for new weapon systems simultaneously… you’ll find that what pulled us out of the recession under Reagan was EXACTLY what will pull us out of this recession… “Massive government spending”. The only difference being, one President (Reagan) spent all his duckets on military contracts, and the other (Obama) is spending it on other government programs.

Posted by: X-Republican Because of Bush | October 3, 2009, 10:15 am 10:15 am

Jenn Said: “Currently, unemployment is ACCELERATING despite record amounts of spending.”
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LOL…. yes, go look at history and see what Reagan did at the time (“record amounts of spending” also)…. LOL.
Read some history, and look at data… that will solve your problem Jenn.

Posted by: X-Republican Because of Bush | October 3, 2009, 10:18 am 10:18 am

Courtesy of Bloomberg… The U.S. economic slump earlier this year was so severe it short-circuited the government’s model for calculating payrolls, raising the risk that today’s jobs report may be too optimistic.
About 824,000 more jobs may be subtracted from the payroll count for the 12 months through last March when the figures are officially revised early next year, a Labor Department report showed today. The revision would be the biggest since at least 1991.
The bulk of the miss occurred in the calculations for the first quarter of this year, the Labor Department said. The economy shrank at a 6.4 percent annual pace in the first three months of 2009, the worst performance since 1982.
The figures raise the possibility that the government’s calculations continue to miss the mark.
“We are probably still underestimating job losses,” said John Silvia, chief economist at Wells Fargo Securities LLC in Charlotte, North Carolina. “There could be another 30,000 to 40,000” that the data isn’t picking up, he said.
That would mean the loss of jobs for September could turn out to be as high as 300,000, rather than the 263,000 reported today by the Labor Department. Today’s report also showed the jobless rate climbed to 9.8 percent last month, a 26-year high.
The potential revision for the year through last March would mean that the economy lost 5.6 million jobs for the period instead of the 4.8 million now on the books.

Posted by: Mary | October 3, 2009, 10:23 am 10:23 am

All the “right-whiner-publikans” on this board seem to forget that the last time unemployment was this high was in 1983 when their great “trickle-down” hero was President, Ronald Reagan.
Let’s just take a look at the historical data of the Monthly National Unemployment Rate under Ronald Reagan, as reported by the Bureau of Labor and Statistics.
You will notice in the data provided below that:
(1) Under Reagan, the national unemployment rate remained at OVER 9.8% for an entire year before it started coming down again (July 82 to July 83)…but I “betcha” you won’t hear this kind of data from a “right-whiner”…Oh, and according to these “right-whiners”….. “Obama’s been in office for 9 months and by now he should have turned this economy around”… LOL.
(2) The unemployment rate under Reagan actually climbed for the first 23 months of his presidency, from 7.5% when he took the office to 10.8% in December 1982, just as it is doing under Obama…but I “betcha” you won’t hear this kind of data from a “right-whiner”.
(3) Ronald Reagan still holds the record as the President with the HIGHEST monthly national unemployment rate since the Great Depression (10.8% during November and December 1982)…but, again, I bet you won’t hear this kind of data from a “right-whiner”.
So, if you really think that President Obama is doing a terrible job, then, (A) You clearly don’t understand how hard it is to turn a nation’s economy around (things don’t happen overnight), and (B) you probably should go take some economics classes and learn something about how unemployment is the most “LAGGING” indicator of all economic indicators..
Here’s the data from the Bureau of Labor and Statistics Website:
Jan ’81, Reagan takes office UR = 7.5%
Sep ’81 (9 months into Reagan) = 7.6%
Oct ’81 = 7.9%
Nov ’81 = 8.3%
Dec ’81 = 8.5%
Jan ’82 = 8.6% Jul ’82 = 9.8%
Feb ’82 = 8.9% Aug ’82 = 9.8%
Mar ’82 = 9.0% Sep ’82 = 10.1%
Apr ’82 = 9.3% Oct ’82 = 10.4%
May ’82 = 9.4% Nov ’82 = 10.8%
Jun ’82 = 9.6% Dec ’82 = 10.8%
Jan ’83 = 10.4% Jul ’83 = 9.4%
Feb ’83 = 10.4% Aug ’83 = 9.5%
Mar ’83 = 10.3% Sep ’83 = 9.2%
Apr ’83 = 10.2% Oct ’83 = 8.8%
May ’83 = 10.1% Nov ’83 = 8.5%
Jun ’83 = 10.1% Dec ’83 = 8.3%
Jan ’84 = 8.0%
Feb ’84 = 7.8%
Mar ’84 = 7.8%
Apr ’84 = 7.7%
May ’84 = 7.4%

Posted by: X-Republican Because of Bush | October 3, 2009, 10:37 am 10:37 am

X-Republican Because of Bush,
Again, since you conveniently ignored a key point in my comments, the methodology used for today’s BLS measurements is DIFFERENT than the one used during the Reagan era. The change was made during Clinton’s tenure. Care to dispute that? My guess is you’ll ignore this point yet again.
The fact is today’s BLS numbers make the unemployment picture look much rosier than it actually is. But keep searching The Huffington Post or Daily Kos for your talking points. Maybe you’ll hit on a new “fact” to share. It’s much easier than actually confronting reality all around you.

Posted by: Jenn | October 3, 2009, 10:54 am 10:54 am

It’s really looking like a trend is emerging. Obama can’t get the ball over the plate both literally, AND rhetorically.
Skills.

Posted by: tc | October 3, 2009, 10:58 am 10:58 am

Jenn, so what was this methodology change? Between the Reagan years and the Clinton years… I’m curious.
And you of course, missed the key point about Reagan, i.e., Reagan also stimulated by massive government spending (spending on the borrowed dime). It looks really nice to delay having to pay taxes, when in reality, all Reagan and Bush did was keep the government the same size and BORROW TO PAY FOR IT.
I bet you have no clue how much the government paid out in INTEREST ONLY on the National Debt that Bush racked up during his 8 years, do you?

Posted by: X-Republican Because of Bush | October 3, 2009, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Being a Chicagoan, I found that the United States not getting the Olympic bid
and being rejected in the first round to be a bit disappointing. I also found it to be a
moment of “enlightenment”. For decades now, the United States has been spending its’
nations blood and money policing the world and helping others — both friends
and former foes (eg Germany). I think that it is time, now, that we focused on our
own country and helped ourselves and our true allies, only. For those other countries
that want security for their nations, let them pay for it with their own people’s
blood and money.

Posted by: ConcernedCitizen | October 3, 2009, 11:19 am 11:19 am

“If every parent were legally required to financially support their chidren, we wouldn’t have the welfare system we have today. Instead, biological fahers are allowed to become “deadbeat dads” with no repercussions while the community at large pays for their childrens’ upbringing. I’m fed up.”
I agree! Biological fathers and biological mothers both need to start fully supporting their offspring and stop taking welfare in the form of IOC payments and income tax deductions for dependents. Parents should stop taking these IRS handouts. If they want charity, go to the churches who advised them to be fruitful and multiply!

Posted by: Rudy | October 3, 2009, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Being a Chicagoan, I found that the United States not getting the Olympic bid and being rejected in the first round to be a bit disappointing. I also found it to be a moment of “enlightenment”. For decades now, the United States has been spending its nation’s blood and money policing the world and helping others — both friends and former foes (eg Germany). I think that it is time, now, that we focused on our own country and helped ourselves and our true allies, only. For those other countries
that want security for their nations, let them pay for it with their own people’s blood and money.

Posted by: ConcernedCitizen | October 3, 2009, 11:28 am 11:28 am

“He’s already lost the independent voting block that swept him in.”
Not quite.
The latest job approval ratings from Fox News show 46% of Independents approve and 41% disapprove. CBS/NYT shows 47% of Indies approve and 38% disapprove.
That’s still a goodly chunk supporting Obama.

Posted by: Numeros | October 3, 2009, 11:36 am 11:36 am

Apparently the Republicans expected the economy to be fixed by now. Of course -things do happen overnight. They are just nervous because they know that in 2010 there will be many more signs of recovery and that will solidfy Obama for 2012. They can’t stand the thought of another 4 + years of Democratic Rule. Well – get ready, GOP.

Posted by: Bryant | October 3, 2009, 11:41 am 11:41 am

Bryant, by historical trends we should be getting out of the recession by now.Take a macroeconomics course. The evidence that stimulus packages can accelerate a recovery is exceedingly thin-ask the Japanese.Paradoxically, the expansion of debt can dry up private investment capital,leading to delayed recovery and actual precipitation of a secondary period of decline.I fear that this is now happening.I believe that the stock market drop of last week may be reflective of that,although the market is not a great reflection of the true state of the economy.And no,at ths stage it is no longer Bush’s fault.

Posted by: Nephron | October 3, 2009, 11:52 am 11:52 am

Time will certainly tell, Nephron. I still believe we’ll see some good growth with the economy in 2010 – perhaps not in the early part but mid 2010. That’s my prediction. I don’t believe we are going to see growth for the rest of this year. Obama and his economic advisers even said (if I recall?) back in January and February that we likely won’t see anything good happen with the economy this year. I think they were accurate with that (as we see now). I do think the stimulus was a good idea, however I disagree with the fact that we should be “clearing” the recession already. I have actually taken economics courses in College, however that was many years ago. :^) I don’t think it’s useful to blame Bush at this stage either, but we did have a previous administration that thought the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were more important than trying to protect the economy by limiting spending and actually helping us here at home.

Posted by: Bryant | October 3, 2009, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

Numeros:”The latest job approval ratings from Fox News show 46% of Independents approve and 41% disapprove. CBS/NYT shows 47% of Indies approve and 38% disapprove.”
What are the Independent numbers in the swing states like Indiana, Ohio, Virginia, Missouri, Colorado and Florida? Everything else is noise.

Posted by: Woody | October 3, 2009, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

“What are the Independent numbers in the swing states like Indiana, Ohio, Virginia, Missouri, Colorado and Florida?”
I don’t know. You tell me.

Posted by: Numeros | October 3, 2009, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

We (the American public) are really keeping POTUS sober! We’re a real buzz kill.. even the beer summit won’t bring about any euphoria..
‘The Politics of Sobriety’

Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | October 3, 2009, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Want to see something shocking that the media isn’t reporting? In the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ latest news release on October 2nd (“The Employment Picture – September 2009″), they show tables that include Household Data. Here are their numbers:
Civilian Labor Force: 154,897,000 (Aug 2009) down to 153,617,000 (Sep 2009).
Employed: 140,074,000 (Aug 2009) down to 139,079,000 (Sep 2009).
That’s a loss of 995,000 jobs, not 263,000, and the Civilian Labor Force contracted by 1.28 MILLION people in just ONE MONTH!
Google “bls the employment situation september 2009″ (PDF file), look at Page 11, and see for yourself.

Posted by: Jenn | October 3, 2009, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

The president lied to get into office and now that he’s been there for a while, he’s finding that he’s got to lie to cover his earlier lies about job creation. Just another lying politician.

Posted by: Chuck | October 3, 2009, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm

Hey chuck how else would you suggest getting into office? Also its redundant to say “another lying politician.” Obama is cool just give him a break.

Posted by: bambam | October 3, 2009, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

how’s that stimulus working out for you?
I think President Obama has done enough. If he would just quit doing things to help the economy then we might be able to start recovering, albeit with a little heavier burden.

Posted by: Chris in Buford | October 4, 2009, 12:11 am 12:11 am

It is a pity a lot of the stimulus money is being used as pork or award to local government to win support for the ruling Dem. party politicians.

Posted by: austin | October 4, 2009, 8:11 am 8:11 am

To “X-Republican because of Bush:” Not only are you a liar (you were never a Republican you tool), but your facts are typical of your ilk: incorrect and misunderstood by the presenter because you and your ilk aren’t very intelligent, although you pretend to be, or play an intelligent person on TV. Carter had the unemployment rate up to 11.3% at one point, and interest rates and inflation soared under your second-favorite hero, fool. Carter invented the “Misery Index” which went away once he was swiftly voted out of office. Also, before the Carter/Clinton-induced housing market crash, we had Full Employment under Bush. Not everyone is as stupid as you sir, so please don’t believe everyone is impressed with your “research.”

Posted by: Lon | October 4, 2009, 10:38 am 10:38 am

To “x-repub under bush, yeah right”, also sir, you forget that your demi-god Carter removed the “Chronically Unemployed” from his statistics. Just like a Democrat, isn’t it? I wish all of you would pack your bags and find a nice socialist country that will take you in. I am sick of working for putzes like you who think you shouldn’t have to. I know this because you are a Democrat voter.

Posted by: Lon | October 4, 2009, 10:54 am 10:54 am

To “Lon”….. LMAO! Looks like I hit your nerve (so easy to do with you “right-whiners”)…. and of course, you resort to things like calling people “stupid”… LOL… what an “educated” response!!! Where did you learn that debate technique? Was it 5th or 6th grade?, i.e., just before you completed your education… LOL.
Lastly, you may wish that other Americans leave “our” country… I just wish it wasn’t composed of so many people with an education level like yours… LMAO!

Posted by: X-Republican Because of Bush | October 4, 2009, 11:18 am 11:18 am

Work ahead? Obama has done enough work and look at the results. FAILURE.
GITMO Failure. Afghanistan? Still there. Olympics Failure with the WORLD laughing at him. Health care more hated than ever before cant even be decided on an up and down vote. Transparency? What a LIAR! Mr President you LIED to ALL of US.

Posted by: ChicagoBob | October 4, 2009, 11:34 am 11:34 am

Posted by: ChicagoBob | Oct 4, 2009 11:34:38 AM
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I watch SNL, too!! But you mixed something up in your hurry to parrot. Obama never said we’d leave Afghanistan– the argument is that he said he’d improve the conditions for soldiers fighting there, he event sent more troops and hired McCrystal, but now he may change the policy and things have taken a turn for the worse. Read up on the Repub talking points– you’re botching it by winging it and getting it wrong.

Posted by: Alyson | October 4, 2009, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

Knowing the job loss troubles we have had and the reports we keep hearing of when our economy “Might” get back on track I think The President and Congress need to stop toying with possiable unemployment extensions and simply set it up so that instead of a lousy 13 weeks, which will get us to the new year, then congress will take another 13 weeeks to decide they need to extend it again, they make it last for the entire next year. If nothing less then 26 weeks into it. I lost my job Sept 08. I have run the course of extentions Both fed and local here in Fla and have been out of any UE income for 2 months now. Day Labor isn’t panning out to keep me afloat when It used to be my bread and butter in-between const jobs. I cant get much Other help cause Im single and not a parent.I wonder how many others just like me cant get help? Health care is nice maybe it will be for me, But right now I care less about it cause even if I had it, I couldn’t pay for it. I need my Gov to step up and set our country on a track that will make us all relax some. Long term benifits. then we might be able to spend a little cash for Christmas and beyond.
Least then I know I wont have my truck repoed and will have it to look for work and get to work when I land a job.

Posted by: Robert Childress | October 4, 2009, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

…but if you tell these almighty Dems to lower taxes, they act so holy telling you they are ‘taxing the rich’…without quite understanding that these ‘rich’ are actually small business owners who HIRE PEOPLE! The Dems push for minimum wage hike added something over 250K minimum wage workers to the unemployment lines…Obama and Pelosi have no concept of simple enconomics.

Posted by: Bill | October 4, 2009, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

Communism and lies. How many campaign promises has Obama broken? Lobbiest in the cabinet, tax cheats, no troop support for Afghanistan, offshore drilling stopped, oil leases pulled, no nuclear power permits, taxes on everyong going up (Bush tax cuts expire this year), ACORN gets 8.2 billion in the stimulus bill, cap and tax on energy, congressional bills not posted for public scrutiny (The Democrats in Congress have voted against posting bills for public scrutiny 72 hours before a vote), no one in congress and senate reading the bills (or being given time to do so), any American opposing the policies of this administration is called racist / crazy/ extremist, homeland security says the real terrorist threat is from Americans that oppose Obama, the Obama FCC diversity Czar calling for a 100% tax on any radio station that doesn’t promote a pro-Obama agenda (The tax would go to public stations that support the DNC), and fairly the whole anti-Jewish thing is a little to much for me to stomach. How dare this administration and ex-Democrat President Jimmy Carter lecture America about racism, while they have been caught on tape spouting anti-Jewish rhetoric. I feel sorry for the good people of Isreal, for I believe the next holocaust is in the works for them, and America’s failing shall be the cause of great sorrow for Isreal.

Posted by: jon | October 5, 2009, 12:48 am 12:48 am

Obama will NEVER be elected again. I used to be a democrat, but now I see they are just for entitlement! The more people leaning on the government the better………Obama will be voted out by a landslide, if he has the stupidity to run again.

Posted by: lyineyes1956 | October 5, 2009, 8:07 am 8:07 am

What if instead of borrowing billions to bail out Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, th banks, wall street etc., each American family had been sent a tax free check for 1 million dollars. What would they do?
Pay up their mortgage?
Buy a new house?
Buy a car?
Buy appliances, electronic gadgets, etc?
Seems to me this would accomplish all the objectives. Stimulate buying, create jobs, create taxable income. and eeveryone would be happy. Except the political types who benefitted from all the bailouts.

Posted by: enreval | October 5, 2009, 8:59 am 8:59 am

Does anybody in government have any idea what the hell they are doing? They said unemployment would not go above 8% its alot higher than that. Time to throw the bums out.

Posted by: DANIEL | October 5, 2009, 9:27 am 9:27 am

This is just another reason why the economy needs to be our main focus right now rather than healthcare reform. All of the healthcare benefits that we as Americans received were due, in part to the perks of a good economy. I say this with the understanding about the healthcare needs of people in the United States. We NEED to get our priorities straight. First get the economy going so that we have taxpayers to pay taxes in the first place. No offense but it’s just plain dumb to enact government programs (which are either paid for by raising taxes or borrowing the money, most likely from China) such as healthcare for everyone when we don’t have the money to pay really for any new programs, when programs that positive already that are getting government funding are being cut, to start new ones it just stupid and a reflection on how our priorities are crapped up in this country. Before the liberals start their verbal abuse, again, I’m not saying that it isn’t a good idea for everyone to have healthcare (not government run healthcare, though), I’m just saying that we NEED to get people working again (not necessarily for the government) and making money for their families and themselves. We need to start encouraging business to start up and hire people, then give healthcare when people are feeling more confident about the economy. That’s a plan that works, not starting government mandated healthcare that will drain an already strained budget that both dems and reps (not just President Bush and not just President Carter) caused to be strained.

Posted by: john | October 5, 2009, 9:37 am 9:37 am

Mr. President, are you admitting that we should have elected someone who was already sobre and didnt need to constantly be reminded?

Posted by: Tedark | October 5, 2009, 9:38 am 9:38 am

“Does anybody in government have any idea what the hell they are doing? They said unemployment would not go above 8% its alot higher than that.”
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The same lie repeated. The government said nothing of the sort.
Read the report. The authors went to great pains to explicitely state their projections of numbers were not meant to be taken as exact figures, nor as exact predicitions of the future – they specifically pointed to the global economic breakdown as unprecedented and giving rise to unpredictability in projections.
Try to understand, this was a major economic breakdown on a global level. All the western industrialized countries have put stimulus plans in place, and in fact just met to review those plans. They believe the recovery is on the right track, but no where near accomplished.
This is not a board game where someone can snap their fingers and fix everything.
Here’s a question for you – can the consumer society that fueled the growth and the collapse actually sustain itself? Can we continue to gobble up world resources?

Posted by: tierra | October 5, 2009, 9:54 am 9:54 am

It should be the work of NOW, and not the work ahead.

Posted by: Rick McDaniel | October 5, 2009, 10:38 am 10:38 am

Does anybody in government have any idea what the hell they are doing?
Posted by: DANIEL
I wondered about that too, esp. after Bush and ‘Rummy’ said the Iraq invasion would be short and it would pay for itself……

Posted by: Et Tu Brute | October 5, 2009, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

It seems as though the Iraq war paid dividends to the Chinese oil industry..and we pretty much owe our collective souls to China.

Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | October 5, 2009, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

I thought the 787 billion we spent was going to create or save jobs instead the U.S. economy lost 263,000 In September. I know I know it would have been so much worse had we not done it. Ok sure.

Posted by: 'Un-Amercican' | October 5, 2009, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

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