By Kristina Wong

Oct 25, 2009 3:38pm

Pledging Beta Omega?

President Obama is golfing at Ft. Belvoir today with Melody Barnes, the director of the White House Domestic Policy Council.

This is the president's 24th round of golf since his inauguration, according to the meticulous records of CBS News' Mark Knoller.

And, interestingly, it's the first time the president has played with a woman.

Usually these outings are men only.

But today's round of golf comes after some questions raised by the media about what some critics say is a too-fratty atmosphere in the White House, a place where the president's closest advisers — chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, senior adviser David Axelrod, and press secretary Robert Gibbs — are known by women at the White House as "the Boys." That's a perception fed with lower-level aides like personal assistant Reggie Love and trip director Marvin Nicholson who have close personal relationships with the president and play basketball and golf with him.

On one level, this is much ado about nothing. No one is alleging discrimination or an uncomfortable work place. White House aides point to the myriad women in positions of power — Barnes, senior adviser Valerie Jarrett, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, Communications Director Anita Dunn, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor, UN ambassador Dr. Susan Rice, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, and many others as evidence to rebut any notion that the White House should stamp "Beta Omega" above its columns.

White House aides also point to the president's substantive agenda to rebut the charge. They point to the first bill the president signed — the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Restoration Act — his support for parity in health care coverage, abortion rights, and many other issues as evidence that this is a president who fervently believes in women's equality in law and in practice.

And yet, plenty of Democratic women who support the president aren't so quick to dismiss the notion that the White House can be a little boy's-clubby.

As ABC News' Karen Travers noted on October 8, President Obama invited to the White House a number of officials for a game of hoops: Secretary of Housing & Urban Development Shaun Donovan, Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, Secretary of the Treasury Tim Geithner, Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar, and 11 Members of Congress (nine Democrats, two Republicans).

No women were included.

Not even Sebelius, who played basketball for Trinity University in Washington, DC, and who had been asked that same week by Jay Leno who might win a game of HORSE between her and the president. "You know I actually made my college basketball team," she said as the crowd laughed. "I'm not sure he did so you know, bring it on."

That day, Gibbs was asked about the estrogen absence in the basketball game and said the point was "well taken."

"The president, obviously, is someone who, as the father of two young daughters, has an avid interest in their competing against anybody on the playing field" Gibbs said. "The president's certainly played basketball and other sports with women in the past, and I anticipate he'll do so in the future."

Last week, NBC's Savannah Guthrie asked the president about the game.

"You could say this was just a game," she said. "You might say it was a networking opportunity with the President or some kind of political activity. And I guess I just wonder, what happened there? Some people might look at that and say gosh, there's the old boys' club again."

The president was quick to disagree.

"Yeah, I've got to say I think this is bunk," he said. "You know, basically, the House of Representatives, they have a regular basketball game. And they had wanted to play here at the White House court. And we invited them. You know, I don't think it sends any kind of message or signal whatsoever."

Today the New York Times' Mark Leibovich took a look at the issue of whether the president's White House is a bit too fratty.

“There is a sense that Obama has a certain jocular familiarity with the men that he doesn’t have with the women,” former Clinton for president adviser Tracy Sefl — whom Leibovich says "speaks regularly to some female aides in the administration" — told the Times.

But Jarrett called the meme “a Washington perception that has nothing to do with the reality on the ground.”

Though President Obama overwhelmingly won the women's vote last November, his opponents have tried to imply something fratty about him.

It was a year and a half ago, when Clinton was still a senator intensely squared off against Obama, that several Democrats in her camp pointed to occasional comments he made — "You challenge the status quo and suddenly the claws come out," and "I understand that Senator Clinton, periodically when she's feeling down, launches attacks as a way of trying to boost her appeal" — as evidence of a certain fratty cluelessnes.

Pro-Clinton blogger Taylor Marsh wrote that words like this, in her view, indicated "a way of thinking about women. A way of demeaning women in power; even saying we're not up to the job. Seriously, Senator Hillary Clinton is a woman running for president. Not some emotional menopausal diva popping pills because she's depressed she broke a nail."

In a pitch for disaffected Clinton supporters, the campaign of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., also attempted to suggest that there was something chauvinistic about then-Sen. Obama, relying quite a bit on a column by conservative writer Deroy Murdock that suggested that on average, women in McCain's office are paid more than the men in McCain's office, while the women in Obama's office made less than the men did. Only one of Obama's five best-paid Senate staffers was a woman. Of McCain's five best-paid Senate staffers, three were women.

In any case, this is the context in which Barnes is playing golf today.

Fore!

- jpt

User Comments

In my opinion, this article is too harsh. In the world we live in today, a world full of stresses and worries, it is healthy for our nation’s leaders to relax. I do not believe that playing a round of golf or a game of basketball is irresponsible of President Obama. He has a right to a little fun just like we all do. If it got out of hand, I could see where there would be a problem but up to now, he has not done anything worth criticizing. Also, up until recently, the world of politics has been run by men. Although women are becoming more prevalent in politics, it will take more time before there is an equal balance. I do not believe that Obama is trying to prevent that. The fact that he signed the act proves that Obama is very supportive of women in every way. I also think that the close relationship of the men in the white house is beneficial to all of us. It means that clearly there is some agreement among the leaders of our country and that is a comforting feeling. I do not believe that their friendships should be looked upon as “fratty”.

Posted by: Flamm | October 25, 2009, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

132 killed in Bagdad this weekend.
No clue what to do in Afghanistan.
24 rounds of golf.

Posted by: mjishernameo | October 25, 2009, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Oh good grief. Is the point of this latest one just to put another negative out there or something? I sure don’t recall ever reading this about Bush and can’t think of him ever seen golfing with a female. At least Obama signed the Ledbetter Act.

Posted by: secondlook | October 25, 2009, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

Bunch of rich spoiled frat boys.
A great description of the Obama administration.
I think they spend most of their time planning where to campaign next and who to invite to the next WH party.
One big party, one big road trip.

Posted by: millie | October 25, 2009, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

Pro-Clinton blogger Taylor Marsh wrote that words like this, in her view, indicated “a way of thinking about women. A way of demeaning women in power; even saying we’re not up to the job. Seriously, Senator Hillary Clinton is a woman running for president. Not some emotional menopausal diva popping pills because she’s depressed she broke a nail.” WAS THIS (above statement)NOT A DEMEANING STATEMENT ABOUT WOMEN MS. TAYLOR MARSH? Better think before you speak (and have it put in print).

Posted by: d | October 25, 2009, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

After rounds of golf, Mr. Obama will have a pickup basketball game at the Whitehouse, then come exercise and dinner with Michelle. If Sunday, then it’s watching Chicago Bears football.

Posted by: young_voter | October 25, 2009, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

Easy to see the juvenile anti-Obama, name callers are out today . . .. yawn.
Nothing better to offer?

Posted by: julieterra | October 25, 2009, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

24 rounds of golf
24 fundraisers
Obama sure is having fun being a fake president.
When’s he going on Leno’s new show?

Posted by: tyler | October 25, 2009, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

Today obama played 5 rounds of golf followed by an evening talk show and the first official white house porn movie to get more cash for his office.

Posted by: LOL | October 25, 2009, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

Easy to see the juvenile anti-Obama, name callers are out today . . .. yawn.
Nothing better to offer?
Posted by: julieterra******************************
This is tappers best? Yikes! reporting must be real slow and desperate these days.

Posted by: spacerook1 | October 25, 2009, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

Do I care? No!
First your upset because he only played sports with the boys. Now your upset because he played gold with a woman.
What’s next?

Posted by: Angie | October 25, 2009, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

Keep on with the negative attacks Repubs and watch what happens in 2012. People are well aware that the Repubs are nitpicking every litle angle attempting to bring negatism to the Obama White House. The President has always been very pro sports and keep himself in good physical condition by participating in various sporting events. If there are females out there who want to compete against the men, i’m sure that they would be welcome. I go to various parks regularly to compete in pickup basketball games and there are never any females there that are interested in competing against the males. How many professional sport teams out there that have females competing against males? If that’s sexism then why dont you call these professional sport teams out? No you never will do that because you know how rediculos it is.

Posted by: johnnylee | October 25, 2009, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

I honestly cannot believe you got that many words out of such a nonstory. And I am not trying to be a jerk, i am honestly impressed.

Posted by: Fox News Light | October 25, 2009, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

Slow news day?

Posted by: Osteoblast | October 25, 2009, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

What’s to comment about? A big “so what” from me. According to Michelle, they play tennis together, by the way, but he “usually wins,” so she gets “annoyed.” Where are you working next, Jake? TMZ? Is that one of ABC’s “sister news organizations,” too?
You’re a huge disappointment, Jake. You used to write pretty good stuff, but something happens to people when they go on TV. Their brains turn to mush. Maybe it’s the enormous salaries that just make you part of “Our Club.”

Posted by: Jim H | October 25, 2009, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

Just let it go, people. This is a married man with two daughters, and an administration heavily seasoned with women. Not exactly the lady hater type.
All over our nation today, men are hanging out with other men, watching football, or the ALCS, or adult cartoons on other networks, all kinds of stuff. Nothing said. It’s hypocritical, and frankly depressing.
Former presidents have been adulterers, recovering alcoholics, buffoons and bastards. We revere them and honoe them. And guess what?
They didn’t play golf with the girls, either.

Posted by: Jimmy | October 25, 2009, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

Frankly, I don’t care if he plays golf with his dog. I would much rather hear that he has quit flying around the country on my $ campaining. (aren’t we in a financial crisis?) 24 rounds of golf, parties in the White House, basketball. Uh – what about just doing the job you were hired to do? There is way too much time playing at our expense.

Posted by: Unimpressed | October 25, 2009, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

millions living in fear of their future, economy in shambles, insurmountable debt- Obama golfs and has a good time, anything wrong with that? put this publicity stunt together with the almost weekly party held at the white house featuring different bands, its a down right shameful arrogant display of any president. unreal. but welcome to obama’s america, hows that hope and change working out for ya?

Posted by: realman1963 | October 25, 2009, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

24 rounds of weekend golf in 10 months = 2.4 per month.
Can anyone explain what’s the big deal?
GWBush spent 487 days relaxing at Camp David, a579 days visiting his Crawford Texas ranch and 43 days visiting his parents in Kenebunkport. He took 609 personal out-of-town trips, in addition to the trips to Camp David & Crawford.
He attended 338 fundraisers, raised $802,586,070 for the GOP, and attended 110 sporting events.
In March 2008, the meticulous CBS News monitor announced that Bush had spent 30% of his presidency on vacation days, the most of any sitting US President!
It’s absurd of any GOP wingnuts to try make Obama look like a part-time president with the type of comments on this chain – jealousy, sour grapes & desperation.

Posted by: AMC/NYC | October 25, 2009, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

Ask Larry Sinclair… Bet HE knows…

Posted by: jafo | October 25, 2009, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

“On one level, this is much ado about nothing.”
No, it’s not nothing. It’s not a big deal, but it does matter and it is appropriate that Obama addresses it. As the President of the United States, appearances and the example he sets matters 24/7 – that’s the job. The press raised a legitimate if minor issue (he clearly puts women into positions of power) and Obama appears to have listened.
It should be reported to raise the issue with CEOs, who do tend to promote those who they know better including golfing, racquetball, and beers after work time. And then it will fade away as a settled issue and we can get back to the major issues on our country’s plate.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 25, 2009, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

All you people do is complain, no one likes a complainer.Oh and I didn’t vote for Obama.

Posted by: James | October 25, 2009, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

“put this publicity stunt together with the almost weekly party held at the white house featuring different bands, its a down right shameful arrogant display of any president. unreal. but welcome to obama’s america, hows that hope and change working out for ya?”
realman1963 | Oct 25, 2009 7:01:05 PM
Yeah, we want him shivering in a sweater telling everyone to wear long johns, or panicking the markets in the Great Depression II, Right?
Hope and change is working out great, thank you. Obama is shaping up to be even better than Bush Sr, who was possibly the most underrated president of the century.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 25, 2009, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

The only things less important than this story are the opinions of those worked up about it.

Posted by: Evan | October 25, 2009, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

this blog is often pretty juvenile–I say lose it.

Posted by: s | October 25, 2009, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

Not at all a surprising story coming from the grandson of a “staunch conservative”. My advise to Jake, leave Obama alone. Nothing you write will diminish what is great about Obama. You will never garner this much attention in your life. Besides, Obama will continue to do things HIS WAY.

Posted by: SundaySyndrome | October 25, 2009, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

This article is a waste of time and too the morons who actually care get a life!! If the President only associated with a group of women he would be called a “womanizer”… Mr. President, enjoy your time with the fellas, did anyone complain about previous President’s and their vacations, fundraisers and associates? NO!! What a bunch of hypocrites… Also, if you know anything about Psychology, it’s common for men to have a variety of outlets that woman don’t or choose to participate…

Posted by: Martin | October 25, 2009, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

Secretary Sebelius is 61 years old. Personal Asst. Reggie Love is 26, and was a basketball AND football* star at Duke . They should NOT be on the same basketball court. Valerie Jerrett is President Obama’s closest advisor, with the possible exception of Rahm Emmanuel, who mostly just seems to be the Designated Bad Guy.
I didn’t vote for Obama, but this story is nothing. The President is always on duty, whether he’s on a basketball court, or a ranch. He’s not like a doctor, who gets a partner to cover for him, every other weekend.
* to the extent Duke HAS football stars

Posted by: Sam What Am | October 25, 2009, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

24 rounds of golf. Wow!!
Obama going to say that ABC is not a news channel either. LOL
Obama the worst president we have ever had.

Posted by: CW | October 25, 2009, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

I CANT STAND THE PRESIDENT BUT WHO REALLY CARES. LET HIM HAVE SOME GUY TIME.

Posted by: fmi200 | October 25, 2009, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

Posted by: CW | Oct 25, 2009 8:14:52 PM… It’s obvious you were sleeping during the past 8 years… Your beloved President Bush has that distinguished title…

Posted by: Martin | October 25, 2009, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

Grow up ABC and start reporting news. What happened to the old fashion investigative journalism?

Posted by: H1N1hysteria | October 25, 2009, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

As an active athlete, I don’t know any 50 year old women that play pick-up basketball. In fact, I don’t know any in their 30s or 40s. Jake, you are really reaching with this article!
I don’t recall Cheney including women on his hunting trips.

Posted by: Bernie | October 25, 2009, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

If a conservative or some Fox reporter drops their napkin at dinner, do you rush over to their table and give them another napkin? We really need to know.

Posted by: doug | October 25, 2009, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

ABC got it all wrong. Mr. Obama is not a feminist, he’s a liar.

Posted by: young_voter | October 25, 2009, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

Boy, you guys are digging for a story on this one.
Show me a woman in her 40′s that plays ball, and I’ll show you a unicorn.

Posted by: Slow News Day | October 25, 2009, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

oh it’s so funny reading the comments saying that this article is not news. but if this was about bush while he was in the white house, you all would be saying bush was a sexist. pathetic. hey jake, keep up the good work, although with the way you are reporting on the white house, abc will probably can you pretty soon. good news is, is that maybe if you’re lucky, you can work at fox news.

Posted by: picklepants7 | October 25, 2009, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

Unbelievable. You people are incredible. I can’t think of anything this president does that is not criticized. You can really tell the one’s who didn’t vote for President Obama, and it is really disheartening that a country wouldn’t support the man who represents it and has it in his best interest, vice making deals to pad his and those of his cabinet’s pockets. TYPICAL.

Posted by: DV | October 25, 2009, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

More hard-hitting reporting from Jake Tapper… Thanks for keeping me informed!

Posted by: Jeff | October 25, 2009, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

“if this was about bush while he was in the white house,”
picklepants7 | Oct 25, 2009 8:47:55 PM
Really? Bush never went mountain biking with women, but that was never a story. How many women were in his brush clearing parties?

Posted by: jhw539 | October 25, 2009, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

Me thinks that most of the comments here are a bit too defensive. I found the article interesting. Is this heavy news? Of course not! But I do find it surprising that this is the first time in 24 golf outings that a woman was invited along. I also find it surprising that he has already played so much golf in his first 9 months in office. The article was NOT simply about basketball games. There may truly be nothing to what the critics are implying (the frat mentality) but those who are making it just about basketball are fooling themselves.

Posted by: John | October 25, 2009, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

“24 rounds of golf. Wow!!”
CW | Oct 25, 2009 8:14:52 PM
What is the problem with the president playing golf on Sunday afternoon 2 or 3 times a month? He’s already a verified workaholic compared to Bush or Reagan.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 25, 2009, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

Why shouldn’t he run a boys club? He owns the house, the property and the people within this country. If you have it, flaunt it. That’s probably the only truthful thing that Obama has ever had.

Posted by: Gina | October 25, 2009, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

Bernie, Bernie, Bernie. You jump to such ridiculous conclusions!
Let’s start with your concluding remark, “I don’t recall Cheney including women on his hunting trips.” Well, a little research would have quickly provided you with proof that he did indeed hunt with women. Remember his infamous hunting accident, when he shot a fellow hunter in the face? Well, that shooting trip was hosted by a woman, Katharine Armstrong, a prominent Texas socialite and former head of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Commission. According to news accounts, there were 8 guests, four women and 4 men, in addition to Cheney. All the guests, male and female, went quail hunting. The group with Cheney at the time of the accident included women. So yes, Cheney did hunt with women.
Then, let’s address your other point,
“As an active athlete, I don’t know any 50 year old women that play pick-up basketball. In fact, I don’t know any in their 30s or 40s.” Just wow! So how many active female athletes in their 50s or 40s do you associate with? My athletic female friends in that age group do tend to stick to golf, tennis, kayaking, rowing, white water rafting, running, triathalons, and softball. However, I know at least two women in this age category who do play pick-up basketball with their teenagers and/or spouses, and neither of them played basketball competitively in college or beyond. (One also plays touch football.)
I would imagine that women who played competitively earlier in their lives would be more likely to continue to play pick-up games later in life. Nancy Lieberman became the oldest player in the WNBA when she played last year at the age of 50– after signing a 7 day contract with a team who lost a number of players to a suspension. (She had played professionally until the age of 39 anyway and then was a coach and an announcer for the sport) At the time, she said, ““It’s really a one-game deal,” Lieberman told the AP. “My motivation stems from the fact that I love this game and I never stopped playing it, whether it’s a pickup game with Deion Sanders and Tony Romo at a church or at a park with my son.’”
Guess Ms. Lieberman didn’t get Bernie’s memo that us older gals don’t play basketball any more.
Finally, when you say, “Jake, you are really reaching with this article!,” I feel moved to point out the obvious– he’s only talking about what several other journalists have been talking about lately. As noted above, there’s a front-page article in the NYT this morning on the subject, and I heard them discussing that article and the inclusion of a woman in today’s golf buddies on “Reliable Sources” on CNN this morning. So cut Tapper some slack– he’s just bringing it up on a blog, not the lead story on the evening news (the tv equivalent of the front page of the NYT, I would think).
Sorry, Bernie, but we women remain active into our declining years. Yep, we still manage to participate in sports even after the advanced age of 30. I am surprised that an “active athlete” like yourself hasn’t noticed.

Posted by: moderate | October 25, 2009, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

S, you wrote, “this blog is often pretty juvenile–I say lose it.” I say, if you don’t like it, you don’t have to hang around. But many of us political junkies enjoy the mix of high and low brow pieces here, the combination of hard news and gossip, the “power, pop, and probings.” Keep up the good work, Mr. Tapper et al.

Posted by: moderate | October 25, 2009, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

“I also find it surprising that he has already played so much golf in his first 9 months in office.”
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He golfed almost every day on his ONE-WEEK holiday (Bush had already taken 3 week at his Texas ranch and came back to Washington just in time to be caught off-guard by 9/11).
Anyhow, let’s subtract 5 rounds of golf played on his holiday – that leaves 19 rounds of golf in 9 months. In other words he’s got in 2 rounds of gold each month – big FREAKIN’ deal!

Posted by: julieterra | October 25, 2009, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

Julinita, you never miss an opportunity to respond to the slightest criticism of President Obama by launching into snide remarks about President Bush, do you? Someone needs to develop a pill to treat BDS– you could help them test it.
Anyway, just to be contrary, I would point out that your estimate that the president only golfs twice a month, which hardly sounds excessive, is a tad off-base. Because he did not golf much in the beginning of his administration– it was winter in DC, you know. The golf didn’t really become a regular event until summer. Now, he golfs nearly every Sunday. Do I have a problem with that? Nope. But why pretend he doesn’t golf every week (he has only missed one weekend in the last two months, as I recall)? As you say, it’s not that big a deal.

Posted by: moderate | October 25, 2009, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

Julinita, you never miss an opportunity to respond to the slightest criticism of President Obama by launching into snide remarks about President Bush, do you?
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As the right continues gettin petty and pathetic in their unending smearing of the President, I will gladly provide some context with comparison to the previous president.

Posted by: julieterra | October 25, 2009, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

Complaining Obama is not PC enough?
That is truly hilarious.

Posted by: A. Lincoln | October 26, 2009, 12:09 am 12:09 am

This is Fox-style “reporting.” Take any subject, no matter how benign or trivial, and find something to nitpick in a really negative way. I mean really? You are going to nitpick his golf game partners now? You are going to nitpick White House recreational basketball games? What kind of biased bull is that?

Posted by: Tom | October 26, 2009, 2:32 am 2:32 am

Wow, Tapper just calls it as he sees it and the BHO sycophants blast him for acting like Fox. You’re as thin skinned as your dear leader.

Posted by: ConservativeWoman | October 26, 2009, 6:41 am 6:41 am

The real issue is not the frequency of his golf outings but the frequency of his incessant partying and lack of hard work. It is clear he sees himself as some imperial figure head, too above it all (and know it all) to engage in the grown up world of responsibility. This is what affirmative action produces. Very sad.

Posted by: mickeymat | October 26, 2009, 7:05 am 7:05 am

24 rounds of golf? The man has the most responsible job in the world, has a wife and 2 kids. I haven’t had the time to play that much golf in more than 2 years. I’m just a software engineer with a wife and an 8 week old kid.
Must be nice to take 2-3 of the busiest people in the White House with you to play golf more than twice a month. I wonder who is picking up the tab for secret service and helicopter rides to Ft Belvior, Andrews AFB or where ever he’s playing with 3 of the highest paid gov’t employees.

Posted by: rr | October 26, 2009, 7:31 am 7:31 am

This is all a lot of nonsense – if the President likes to play golf and he has a regular foursome with which to do it, then so what? If he likes to shoot hoops, then the same so what? Fact is, the President is a regular guy just like all the rest of us regular guys and whether we shoot hoops or play golf or anything else for that matter then that is just part of it.
We need to keep our eye on the ball here, folks – this is a non-issue.
One quick thought: do you think any of these guys hold back on the golf course with the President? Thats the real story, Jake – are they backing down because he happens to e the leader of the free world?

Posted by: Lone Star Rules | October 26, 2009, 7:42 am 7:42 am

This is ridiculous. There is nothing wrong with the fact that Obama wants to play basketball with some buddies. Okay, you can’t say all of them were buddies but still. I dont think I would invite women to play basketball, maybe another activity. Its like you friends are over to play some basketball, you dont call your wife out to sub in. It would be cool for Obama and Kathleen Sebelius played, I think she may have a chance. But the fact that Obama and his coworkers are being called fratty because they discluded women in their basketball game is ridiculous. Men dont just hang out with women on a regular basis, especially when they are married.
“..women in McCain’s office are paid more than the men in McCain’s office, while the women in Obama’s office made less than the men did. Only one of Obama’s five best-paid Senate staffers was a woman. Of McCain’s five best-paid Senate staffers, three were women.”
This may be true but it is not because Mccain likes women more than Obama. This is simply a case of who Obama thought was better for the job. I highly doubt that Obama starting throwing out women while looking for someone for the job.

Posted by: davidh | October 26, 2009, 8:17 am 8:17 am

So he’d rather shoot hoops and play golf than actually be president. It’s not like we’re at war or the economy’s tanking or unemployment’s soaring or Iran is threatening to lob nukes at other countries or … hmm? What’s that?
Oh, never mind.

Posted by: FLD | October 26, 2009, 8:47 am 8:47 am

Most of us “working stiffs” don’t have time to play golf. We’re working hard and saving every nickel, just in case we lose our jobs. Young men are fight in two wars and our president is dancing and partying. Hmmmm. It just doesn’t seem right.

Posted by: Willie12345 | October 26, 2009, 8:48 am 8:48 am

While Obama dithers, I mean plays golf, our soldiers in Afghanistan don’t know if they have a President who cares about their mission.
Obama spent 25 minutes with McChrystal in an airport in Copenhagen somewhere, yet how much time has he spent in fundraisers for Democrat candidates?
Obama. Lead this country, lead the troops who serve valiantly.

Posted by: fiestamom | October 26, 2009, 8:58 am 8:58 am

This story is so desparate. People will try to find anything they can, no matter how stupid, to try and knock the President. It’s really pathetic. The “old boys club” has been going on long before The President was even born and still exists today, in corporations and country clubs, etc. No one is trying to bust up the “old boys club” in big companies. So, this is a ridiculous desparate story. I guess the haters never get tired of hating.

Posted by: Delena | October 26, 2009, 9:34 am 9:34 am

“Why shouldn’t he run a boys club? He owns the house, the property and the people within this country. If you have it, flaunt it. That’s probably the only truthful thing that Obama has ever had.”
Gina- just to clarify several points. He alone does not own the house – the house belongs to the people of the United States – the people put him there and the people can evict him. Second, he does not own the people, he is only a man not a god.

Posted by: mj | October 26, 2009, 9:38 am 9:38 am

Yeah. If the President wants to play golf? So what! If he wants to shoot hoops? So what! If he wants to fly in his personal Pizza Guy, and eat Kobe Beef, and Iranian Caviar, and go out on Dates with Michelle , and her $600 Sneakers, and $6,000 Purse? So what! If he wants to do all this while the people are struggling, just to get bye? So what! If he’s doing all of this, while our TROOPS are FIGHTING and DYING, while he dithers, and ROME BURNS? SO WHAT!
Right?

Posted by: Timothy L. Pennell | October 26, 2009, 9:49 am 9:49 am

Everyone needs time off from work BUT the thing of it is that at some point Obama needs to sit down at his desk and DO some work — like running the country.
I’m am heartily tired of his flitting off somewhere on Air Force One to avoid doing any real work.
He surely is the work-dodgingest president we’ve ever had.

Posted by: dream | October 26, 2009, 9:57 am 9:57 am

Have you ever seen his golf swing? What an embarrassment and yet he still has time to play that much golf in between fundraisers and parties. I miss the days when a real man was in the White House. Say what you want about GWB but he didn’t complain and he didn’t whine and he didn’t blame! Bush couldn’t play golf because everyone was hounding him for doing so and he agreed, saying he didn’t feel right golfing while our soldiers were dying. Obama doesn’t seem to think about anything except himself.

Posted by: Lee | October 26, 2009, 9:57 am 9:57 am

Yes, a media raised controversy which is utter nonsence and a distraction from the real problems facing us today! Just like the Fox News story is flogged on by the Media! GOP like to brag that Fox News ratings are up which is no reason for the Obama Administration to let Fox News get away with disparaging thier agenda. It may be that the more people watch the Fox News Spectacle, more people will get turned off!
The Agents of Darkness are at it again. There are a certain group of Republicans who can do anything and say anything to hold onto their Grasp of Power for themselves and only themselves. When someone speaks truth to power, they cry Foul! Pres. Obama has a duty and obligation to the public to clarify lies and misconceptions about his polices for the American public. Not to allow Fox an interview, though is a mistake.

Posted by: Angellight | October 26, 2009, 10:10 am 10:10 am

“no reason for the Obama Administration to let Fox News get away with disparaging thier agenda” ???
Are you kidding?
Are you kidding?
Do you understand anything at all about our Bill Of Rights?
Our founders protected the press precisely so reporters, journalists, pundits, columnists, and commentators wouldn’t become echo chambers for government or presidential pronouncements. Our founders expected the press to scrutinize and criticize the president and governmental leaders — and hold their toes to the fire if need be.
Obama has almost every other TV channel and newspaper carrying water for him; surely he can endure the criticism coming at him from a single news channel.
Or is he too weak to endure that?

Posted by: dream | October 26, 2009, 10:52 am 10:52 am

14 Americans died this weekend while our AWOL Commander in Cheif played golf and atteneded fundraisers.
I hope he had a good time.

Posted by: robtr | October 26, 2009, 11:11 am 11:11 am

“He surely is the work-dodgingest president we’ve ever had.”
No he isn’t. That distinction belongs to George W. Bush. Bush made 149 trips to Camp David, totaling 487 days. He also visited his Crawford ranch 77 times, spending all or part of 490 days there.

Posted by: WWW | October 26, 2009, 11:39 am 11:39 am

WWW:
In the first nine months of Bush’s presidency, he attended five fundraisers; in the same time frame, Obama has attended 22.
That may keep Obama busy, but it is not the same thing as doing work that benefits the country.
P.S. I had and have no use for Bush, so what disgusts me the most is how much Obama is modeling his policies after Bush’s.

Posted by: dream | October 26, 2009, 11:53 am 11:53 am

The presdient is off playing 24 holes of golf with his white house Monica and troops are dying for him to be safe. Remind any of you of the Clinton Years? Looks like another republican administration will have to come in and take the heat again for cleaning up the party beofre. I mean party because thats all they do is party and play golf.

Posted by: Jim Rod | October 26, 2009, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Lone Star:
Your comments are right on target. The everyday public is trying to get flu shots, find a job and all the regular stuff. I hope these are ‘working’ business related golf games.

Posted by: newenglandlady | October 26, 2009, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

“14 Americans died this weekend while our AWOL Commander in Cheif played golf and atteneded fundraisers.”
The right wing spent years telling us to stop worrying about soldier death in Iraq because it was the equivalent of a inner city murder rate.
Their sudden discovery of troops deaths is sickening.
Every soldiers who has died in the service of this country deserves to honored but the right wing obviously could care less about their deaths unless politically expedient.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 26, 2009, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

“In the first nine months of Bush’s presidency, he attended five fundraisers; in the same time frame, Obama has attended 22.”
Bush took the ENTIRE month of August off to vacation in Crawford.
Seriously, is this a battle right wingers want to have?
The guy who let us down on 9/11 because he was too busy clearing brush vs the guy who is paying attention what should have been our main concern since Bush let us down on 9/11?

Posted by: Ryan C | October 26, 2009, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

Lets be fair to Both Obama and Bush they still need stress relief from time to time, no matter if they Golf, play basketball, Go to Camp David or the Crawford ranch is a President ever really on Vacation?

Posted by: batesba74 | October 26, 2009, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

Tayler Marsh is not a pro-Clinton blogger. She only pretended to be one.

Posted by: Jenny | October 26, 2009, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

Ryan C:
You make a great mistake in assuming anyone who criticizes Obama is a rightwinger or a Republican. You obviously don’t pay attention, since many Obama supporters who voted for Obama are now sorry they did. There are many liberal Democrats who are appalled at Obama’s coziness with the barons of Wall St. and the big corporate interests(you know, the boys who gave him the money to campaign on). Obama is NOT upholding either long-valued Democratic principles or even the promises he ran on.
Wake up.

Posted by: dream | October 26, 2009, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

“Obama is NOT upholding either long-valued Democratic principles or even the promises he ran on.”
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“Since his inauguration the President has removed barriers to responsible scientific research involving human stem cells, signed the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, signed legislation expanding children’s health care (SCHIP), established the White House Council on Women and Girls, pushed for enactment of the Matthew Shepard Act, which expands hate crime law– and he’s about to sign the bill, doubled the troops in Afghanistan and ordered an assessment as part of a thorough policy review pertaining to the war in Afghanistan, secured $5 billion in aid commitments for Pakistan “to bolster the country’s economy and help it fight terror and Islamic radicalism” within the country, engaged the Muslim world in a manner wholly underappreciated by right wingers but important nonetheless, led a meeting of U.N. Security Council heads of state, a first for a U.S. president, which resulted in the adoption of a resolution focused on stopping the spread of nuclear weapons, signed the Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009 (the largest conservation effort in 15 yrs), put into place the framework for an auto industry recovery including an allocation of $2 billion in stimulus cash for advanced batteries systems, singed U.N. convention on the rights of persons with disabilities, signed credit card bill of rights, put $75 billion toward helping homeowners mostly via TARP funds, banned lobbyist gifts to exec branch employees, singed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act which dedicates funds to alternative energy research, highway projects, and Health IT, the stimulus bill and Obama’s first budget dedicates money to high-speed rail, the Attorney General has directed federal prosecutors Monday to back away from pursuing cases against medical marijuana patients, signaling a broad policy shift that drug reform advocates interpret as the first step toward legalization of the drug, President Obama also signed the Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act into law today, the Dow is UP; the Nasdaq is UP ; in May, U.S. home prices rose for the first time in THREE YEARS; in June, new home sales rose 11% and as we move into the last quarter of 2009, home sales figures have risen on average all over the nation meaning there are signs of recovery; Health Care Reform likely with some sort of “public option” will become law before year’s end. Regulatory reform on Wall Street will take awhile and it’ll be a slug fest, but that’s going to happen too. While some feel it’s not happening fast enough, the administration is sticking to the status of forces agreements with Iraq to pull out our forces on time, and while we may not meet the deadline, Gitmo will be closed and no longer serve as a recruitment tool for those who wish to destroy us; and the world views America more positively again. World opinion has noticeably gone back up. And while transparency may not be where we want it to be, this admin is the most transparent to date. Not perfect, not even good enough *yet* but a few steps in the right direction.”
Thanks to another poster for this good (if incomplete) outline.

Posted by: julieterra | October 26, 2009, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

julieterra:
It absolutely depresses me to see the world the way an Obamabot sees it, it is pure delusion. It does not matter to the bots if what Obama does is a good thing or a poorly-done thing as long as they can claim he did “something.” It’s really sad.
Obama has retained Bush’s policies on state secrets, rendition, warrantless wiretapping, executive privilege, and the belief that prisoners we hold at Bagram prison in Afghanistan have NO rights at all — the exact same tack Bush took with regard to the Guantanamo prisoners, until the Supreme Court forced him to grant certain rights to those prisoners. Nevertheless, Constitutional “scholar” Obama persists in holding Bush’s view that such prisoners have no rights that we are bound to respect.
It must be very happy in your dream world.

Posted by: dream | October 26, 2009, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

Obama can get his ### beat by Melody,but can not make a decision on more troops? He called it a war of necessity and now is waffleing on making a decision. How Political is that,no wonder no one trusts him,by the time he makes a decision the war will be lost.

Posted by: strikerF | October 26, 2009, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

“It absolutely depresses me to see the world the way an Obamabot sees it, it is pure delusion.”
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I see many accomplishments in the list posted – if you don’t see them as accomplishments, that would be your problem.
I think its’ “pure delusion” to expect perfection from anyone, especially politicians. What we’ve got now is FAR better than what we had under Bush and the Republicans.
“the exact same tack Bush took with regard to the Guantanamo prisoners, until the Supreme Court forced him to grant certain rights to those prisoners. Nevertheless, Constitutional “scholar” Obama persists in holding Bush’s view that such prisoners have no rights that we are bound to respect.”
Just a point of order, the Supreme Court ruled on prisoners held in the American “non-country” of Guantanamo. Afghanistan is its own sovereign state . . .
Good for you for keeping up the fight against the warrantless wiretaps instituted under the last administration.

Posted by: julieterra | October 26, 2009, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

” He called it a war of necessity and now is waffleing on making a decision. How Political is that,no wonder no one trusts him,by the time he makes a decision the war will be lost.”
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Obama already significantly increased the number of American troops in Afghanistan – a decision made within a few short months of his inauguration.
It’s worth remembering the General who requested even more troops, still felt the war may be ‘unwinnable’ due to corruption in Afghanistan – something (in the face of the recent RIGGED election) well worth deliberating before sending in more young Americans.

Posted by: julieterra | October 26, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

I have never seen anyone so adept at avoiding doing their job. The President jets away frequently for fundraisers or speeches, has big parties every Tuesday night, plays basketball and this past Sunday marked his 24th time on the golf course since becoming President. Pray tell, when does this man actually work? Meanwhile, he’s dithering and playing big man on campus while accomplishing nothing and our troops are dying. Shameful, absolutely shameful.

Posted by: grannysunni | October 26, 2009, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

“I have never seen anyone so adept at avoiding doing their job.”
______________________________________
Then you payed no attention during the last administration . . .
Bush had already taken 3 weeks holidays at his ranch in Texas and returned to Washington just in time to get caught off guard by the 9/11 attacks.

Posted by: julieterra | October 26, 2009, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

You’re right, Jake Tapper, because Obama doesn’t want to regulate who I have sex with, or what I can do with my body, or whether I can use birth control, and he even signed a law to guarantee that I can get equal wages. What a jerk Obama is. If he really cared about me, like McCain and other Republicans, he wouldn’t have pledged to sign an anti-rape law. He would have voted against it, like 30 Republican senators did.
Women like me only care about whether we can play basketball with the president. We want to be controlled by strong Republican men. We want to be told what to do with our bodies, ’cause we can’t figure it out for ourselves.
And everyone knows McCain’s Palin pick was not a cynical ploy to try to get Clinton voters to vote for McCain. Just because women vote with their uterus, it’s not cynical at all. Women just naturally vote for women.
This is how it is, people. Wake up women, and make, then smell, the coffee.
Women need protection and guidance from male reporters like Jake Tapper, who clearly knows all about women. And the fact that ABC has a male White House reporter and not a female? Men just do it better, that’s all. I’m sure Jake makes less than all the women at ABC News. I mean, I’ll bet his mother is female.

Posted by: Katie | October 26, 2009, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

julieterra:
The United States leases but does NOT own the land on which Guantanamo prison is located. We also lease the land on which Bagram prison stands.
I do not like warrantless wiretapping, but Obama does. The proof? He’s still defending it. Talk to Obama, not me, if you don’t like it. Better yet, write Obama a letter telling him you are opposed to warrantless wiretapping. It IS un-Constitutional you know. Amend. 4: “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall NOT be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

Posted by: dream | October 26, 2009, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act pre-dated Obama’s presidency, and all he did was sign a bill that had been proposed by someone else when Obama was still a senator. Obama was merely one of 45 senators who signed on as co-sponsors of the bill. I think it is absurd to imagine that any Democrat elected as president in 2008 would have declined to sign the bill. It is no big deal for Obama that he did.
Furthermore, he has substantial majorities in both houses of Congress and one has to wonder why he has proposed so little legislation to protect the middle class from the Wall St. and Big Corporate goons. In fact, Obama has presided over a massive transfer of money from the middle class to The Big Boys who put him in power. Yeah, NOW he talks about regulating Wall St. and the big banks; well, the horse is out of the barn now so putting a better lock on the barn door is a bit late (and very cynical).

Posted by: dream | October 26, 2009, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

Katie:
If it’s a race to the bottom to see which one was worse, Obama or Bush, we are in deep trouble.
The bots have routinely told us Obama was another Lincoln or Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Next to those presidents, Obama looks pretty pathetic.

Posted by: dream | October 26, 2009, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

and, Katie:
As for Obama’s concern about passing an anti-rape law to protect military personnel, how come the issue had to wait until Al Franken made it to the senate? Why didn’t Obama offer up such legislation when he was IN the U.S. Senate? Why did he wait for someone else to do it?
Too indifferent?
Too lazy?

Posted by: dream | October 26, 2009, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

“NOW he talks about regulating Wall St. and the big banks; well, the horse is out of the barn now so putting a better lock on the barn door is a bit late”
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Now, you’re starting to sound a bit absurd; there was a major world-wide economic crash took place under the Bush administration to be contended with – and Obama has been in power how long?
You’re expecting perfection under these circumstances and that is living in dreamland.
The guy has been in power for 9 months during extreme conditions and is being attacked by the left, the right (and every racist in the nation).
Keep fighting for those things you believe in – there is still over 3 years remaining in this presidential term. Lots of time for more change.

Posted by: julieterra | October 26, 2009, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

“The guy has been in power for 9 months during extreme conditions …” ??
Oh, please. By the time FDR had been in office the same length of time — after inheriting a far worse mess than Obama did — he had transformed the country.
And FDR didn’t let the greedy clowns on Wall St. and the bank clowns get away with absconding with the public’s money while grabbing huge bonuses and perks for themselves, as Obama did.
What? Obama didn’t know until the day he was inaugurated that there were problems with the American and world economies? It was all over the news on a daily and nightly basis, for gosh sakes. Obama was elected in November; he had two months to get his plans in order. What was he doing during those two months if the economic problems were such a shock to him? He had ample time to get regulations in place, so that any entity asking for billions of our tax dollars would have been required to abide by some rules. Why didn’t he? I’ll tell you: because he needed to reward those guys for all their donations to his candidacy.

Posted by: dream | October 26, 2009, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

” By the time FDR had been in office the same length of time — after inheriting a far worse mess than Obama did — he had transformed the country.”
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FDR was also left a country embroiled in 2 wars – and the entire western world in an economic collapse? I don’t think so.

Posted by: julieterra | October 26, 2009, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

“FDR was also left a country embroiled in 2 wars – and the entire western world in an economic collapse? I don’t think so.” ???
Surely, you jest.

Posted by: dream | October 26, 2009, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

“FDR was also left a country embroiled in 2 wars – and the entire western world in an economic collapse? I don’t think so.” ???
Surely, you jest.
________________________________
Not at all. FDR was not left a country embroiled in 2 wars AS WELL as . ..

Posted by: julieterra | October 26, 2009, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

“Oh, please. By the time FDR had been in office the same length of time — after inheriting a far worse mess than Obama did — he had transformed the country.”
I am curious as to what a right winger pretending to be a leftie thinks FDR accomplished in his first 9 months in office.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 26, 2009, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

“I am curious as to what a right winger pretending to be a leftie thinks FDR accomplished in his first 9 months in office.” ???
Now, THAT is really sad.

Posted by: dream | October 27, 2009, 7:33 am 7:33 am

In just his first 100 days, FDR proposed and Congress passed 15 MAJOR pieces of legislation.
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FDR quickly won congressional passage for a series of social, economic, and job-creating bills:
–The Federal Emergency Relief Administration, which supplied states and localities with federal money to help the jobless;
–The Civil Works Administration to create jobs during the first winter of his administration; and
–The Works Progress Administration, which replaced FERA, pumped money into circulation, and concentrated on longer-term projects.
–The Public Works Administration focused on creating jobs through heavy construction in such areas as water systems, power plants, and hospitals.
–The Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 established the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) in the United States and included banking reforms, some of which were designed to control speculation.
–The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. protected bank accounts.
–Securities and Exchange Commission to regulate Wall St.
–The Civilian Conservation Corps provided jobs for unemployed young men.
–The Tennessee Valley Authority provided electricity for the first time to millions of homes and boosted regional development.
Also approved were the:
–Emergency Banking Act,
–the Farm Credit Act, and
–the National Industrial Recovery Act.
In all, Roosevelt got 15 major bills through Congress in his first 100 days.

Posted by: dream | October 27, 2009, 9:17 am 9:17 am

“embroiled in 2 wars” ???
If that’s Obama when he’s “embroiled,” I’d hate to see what he looks like when he’s being laid back.
You really do need to read up on The Great Depression; and incidentally, it was a world wide depression that brought dictators to power in many countries.

Posted by: dream | October 27, 2009, 9:52 am 9:52 am

“Pledging Beta Omega?” Complaining about a “fratty” atmosphere no fewer than three times? Gee, Jake, did someone not get a bid during his freshman rush week?
And with the comparison to Bush’s golf schedule apparently so relevant, let’s also compare their vacation calendars for the same period. Fox’s HR Department is on line two, Jake.

Posted by: gobnaitx | October 27, 2009, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

gobnaitx:
Is that your slogan? “Obama, not as bad as Bush”?

Posted by: dream | October 27, 2009, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

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