President Obama Repeats Promises to Gay and Lesbian Community

Obama will get to DADT once he is safely re-elected.
Which means it might not happen.
The LGBT is naive to believe he will do anything that controversial before 2012.
I hope they enjoy the bones Obama tosses them.
He knows they have no place else to go.

When is Obama going to prove how bold he really is.
Announce that he is for gay marriage again like he was many years ago.
Go into the black churches and lecture them about their bigotry toward gay people.
Can’t see that happening.

As a female who has served in our military the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell Policy is BEST FOR EVERYONE. Military life is different. Living arrangements and duties are different than normal lives. I did not need to know what your sex was nor did I want to in order to serve my country. This political agenda is wrong for the military. Stop making it more than it is.

BO is REAL good at making promises… hehehehe….

“Repeats Promises”….. this is kind of like a man who keeps cheating on his wife……. and she keeps falling for it………….

Obama is going to drag his feet until after 2010 when he loses the supermajority.
Then he won’t be responsible for the failure of repealing DOMA and DADT.
Wake up LGBT!!!
Obama needs your money and your votes.
He uses you like he uses everyone.

How do Obama’s Hollywood peeps justify him not supporting gay marriage or immediately stopping the firing of gays in the military?
They don’t have the guts to publically call him out.
Obama can stall with DADT but why doesn’t the cool, progressive,bold, Nobel winning president support gay marriage?
What’s he afraid of?

Going slow on this is a simple matter of respect for our military. Repealing needs to be done, it is the right thing to do, but it is asking much of our military culture to accept it and I appreciate Obama is not being cavalier about it. At this point, the military has seen that eight years of Republican control didn’t change the movement DADT started towards integration and they should be ready to accept it. But that doesn’t mean their concerns should be brushed aside with the same quick action as Obama struck the Bush Administration’s procedures opposing the Freedom of Information act.

“Obama turns his back on his base AGAIN… And they come crawling back to him like a battered wife… PATHETIC!!!”
jafo | Oct 11, 2009 1:35:16 PM
Nowhere near as bad as the ‘small government fiscal conservatives’ who lined up for Bush in 2004…

“Going slow on this is a simple matter of respect for our military.”
So this will take more than 25 minutes?

The Don’t Ask. Don’t tell policy is plain out wrong. We have gay and lesbian troops already serving in our military just like every other country. We choose to make them serve in the dark as lesser beings. Some of which has been killed in combat and never got to live their lives to their fullest. It they have the courage to serve our country then we should do what the army teaches which is be all they can be. That includes their right to live their lives with whom they choose. I served 12 years in the military and was gay. I got out because I no longer had to passion to risk my life for an organization that wanted me to live a lie.

I have a nephew (4th generation military) serving in the army. I know how hard their jobs are; I know the sacrifices they are making.
As for gays in the military —
As that very conservative Republican from Arizona Barry Goldwater once said:
you don’t have to be straight to shoot straight.”
Really, people need to get a grip on reality.
We are in the midst of fighting two wars, and people are against gays in the military?
Sorry.
But if gays are willing to put their lives on the line for this country, who are we to say no?
Thank God they are willing to risk their lives in defense of America.
ARE YOU???

While the President’s ratings have moved little since he won the Nobel Peace Prize, skepticism about the Nobel selection process has grown . Fifty-eight percent (58%) now see politics in the process, up from 40% a year ago.

Overall, 49% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance. Fifty-one percent now (51%) disapprove.
At least 60% of the five members of a Norwegisn committee approve.

It’s just like when Bush claimed he was going to protect America from terrorists prior to 911.

Just add the LGBT community to the long list of people duped by Obama.
I’m sure the CEO’s, unions, lawyers, Phrma, and other special interests are
very happy.

“Like leaving our troops stranded in Afghanistan while Obama tries to make up his mind whether to send more support or get them out?”
larry | Oct 11, 2009 2:03:00 PM
Since Obama has taken office he has increased the number of troops in Afghanistan by 50%, continued the increase in drone strikes (including in Pakistan, which he was mocked for suggesting during the campaign – until the Bush administration saw the wisdom in it and began doing it), and fired the current general to put in place a new strategy (a somewhat unprecedented removal). I suppose in Republican fantasy land that is “leaving our troops stranded.”
For better or worse, Obama has given Afghanistan a great deal of attention and support.

“Overall, 49% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance. Fifty-one percent now (51%) disapprove.”
Fascist Hyena | Oct 11, 2009 2:14:47 PM
So even with the worst recession since the depression, two hot wars that have dragged on for years, and months licking the third rail of healthcare reform, Obama has higher approval ratings than Clinton and about on par with Reagan at this point in their tenures. Wow. I’m sure he’ll take that.
(Although as a minor point, how do you define “voter” in a non-election year? Or more specifically – how does Rasmussen? No one knows, that’s their little black box adjustment they don’t like to talk about.)

Do we really want outwardly gay or lesbian soldiers in the bunk next to straight soldiers? At least the article did not write the phrase “gay rights advocate”. The word rights presupposes that the action is a a basic human right. Most of the basic religions of the world have not accepted this type of behavior.

How does everyones preference increase our readiness? No I do not remember that during our training that preference had anything to do with my training. So why then do I need to know what your preference is?

Even gays and lesbians who serve in the military and put their lives on the line don’t have equal rights. Very sad side of our nation.

-Even gays and lesbians who serve in the military and put their lives on the line don’t have equal rights. Very sad side of our nation.-
Don’t be so down. Look how quickly Guantanamo was closed.

While I realize that many gay and lesbian activists are disappointed, and I don’t blame them or begrudge their disappointment, I seriously think a little perspective is in order. I seek equal rights for all citizens, too. But when I look back at the Bush and Clinton admins, I do see progress that we shouldn’t just sweep under the rug or minimize. IMHO, President Obama, his cabinet and his admin, alongside some Dems in Congress, are moving on several fronts, doing their best to fix a wide range of ills, many of which border on catastrophe– and they are criticized on nearly every front for moving either too slowly and deliberately, or too quickly.
So what have past Presidents done in regards to gay and lesbian rights? Well, the Bush administration nearly declared open war on the gay community–Bush threw himself and his office squarely behind FMA and his Justice department refused to hire and actually fired gays and lesbians or anyone who had any ties to organizations that might associate with gays and lesbians. Prior to Bush, Clinton signed DADT and DOMA. Now, we have a President who campaigned on and has stated repeatedly that he supports gay and lesbian rights and will work to end DADT and DOMA. He also went to the HRC, took the podium, and advocated on behalf of the cause in front of the entire nation, in an effort to win over hearts and minds, IMHO, and it was televised on C-SPAN. That actually IS a big deal, whether or not one thought the speech did or did not do or say enough. We’re not even at the one-year mark, folks.

“Jhw, I suggest you go look at the MANY RACIST HATEFUL RANTS OF REVEREND WRIGHT IN HIS CHURCH”
PotatoeGater22 | Oct 11, 2009 2:34:15 PM
I have. Have you actually listened to some of them IN CONTEXT, or just the little snippets? Wright is a jerk who subscribes to absurd conspiracy theories, but while I don’t like him I’m not going to condemn a US Marine for that. And neither do all the white folks who sat in his pews (you did actually watch a few of those vids right – not just the snippets fed you by the right wing?).
Posted by: jhw539 | Oct 11, 2009 2:39:46 PM
*** I have no idea why the potatoe decided to bring up Reverend Wright, but I agree with jhw’s take– and I can add that since I live in Chitown and have friends who go to that church, I’ve been there, and I was welcomed, and I didn’t feel discriminated against. I’ve also shook Rev. Wright’s hand (at a baptism) and while he is of a certain age and school of thought and is provocative and seems to subscribe to some out-there theories , you know, he smiled and was nice. That doesn’t mean I agree with him, or defend him– but I think the church gets a really bad rap that it doesn’t deserve, as does all black theology The choir is amazing– and I’ve gone back just for that. And the church has done amazing outreach in the community. Here most LGBT defend Reverend Wright as he welcomed gays and lesbians into the church and Trinity had one of Chicago’s first church-run HIV/AIDS ministries. Toward the end of 2007, Wright voiced his opposition and disgust of anti-gay violence in a sermon following news of the murder of Trinity’s openly gay choir director Donald Young. People are complex.

Most of the basic religions of the world have not accepted this type of behavior.
Posted by: merchantilist | Oct 11, 2009 2:49:43 PM
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You may not have ever visited here but we believe in the separation of church and state, and the pursuit of happiness. Some religions, and states, deny women equal rights, too. And some subscribe to a favored or chosen group of people or a caste system.

As usual, Obama is focused on the most pressing national issue confronting Americans at the moment. (rolls eyes)

How is it “radical social policy” to allow homosexuals to serve in the military? Homosexuals have been serving in militaries for thousands of years, and in America’s for at least 200. Everyone knows it; most people don’t care.

Why does anyone care who each of us are we are all born into this world as the person we are to be, all persons are equal, straight gay bi transgender all the same. As for religion bashing the gays I think they need to look at their own faluts first like hatred, envey, and being unable to stay in those sacraid marriges that they want no others to enjoy.

The Poll I read said that 51% are against Obama with 38% stating that very against Obama while only 31% say they support Obama making Obama with a negative 6% score despite all the manipulation that is known in polls for dems. If the elections were held today, Obama would be tossed out. I want him tossed in jailed myself and hope that many more catch on to what Obama is actually doing.

Every wife beater “promises” he’ll never do it again. And they always end up in the ER the next time. Are you tired of being the battered wife in your relationship with the “Messiah” Democrats??? How many beatings can you take before your dead? Obama is more than willing to find out. Save yourselves, grow a pair, stand UP to the bully… And THROW HIM OUT!!!

Obama’s biggest accomplishment so far as president? Winning the Nobel Peace Prize-
Jay Leno
The LGBT community should not expect the Ditherer In Chief to repeal DADT or DOMA any time soon.

You know promises only go so far actions speak louder than words I was taught. The American people are growing tired of empty promises. However we are taking note of the Presidents attempt to cleanup the big mess that was left for him. He is a good man with good intentions. Bright and Articulate but that only goes so far. Actions. Not Words. They are getting old.

Obama deserves to be pulled in different directions.
He’s being caught in all kinds of lies and empty promises.
Obama is a mega-liberal that pretended to be a centurist just to get elected.
Why those savy independents couldn’t see through the fluff and fancy talk I will never understand.
Obama must wink at the liberals while talking to the moderates/conservatives.
With every speech he must have his fingers crossed.

When the gay community says “Obama gives a great speech but it yet to even come close to delivering” then they are going to be on the lookout for one thing and one thing only: results.
It should be interesting to see how this plays out – the Obama marketing machine (saying what people want to hear) versus the cold reality of producing (as in doing what Obama says he is going to do). The gay community smells a rat and they are about to respond.
This administration is likely to go down in history as the “Duping of America.” The ether is wearing off – and a couple of very vocal communities are starting to say “the Emperor has no clothes.”

Posted by: Tired Arguments | Oct 12, 2009 5:12:06 AM
Before you go on about natural disasters, it would be nice if you could read, or comprehend what you read. Aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, I wrote. That means clean up and rebuilding. And I didn’t bring up the incompetence going into 9/11, you did. And I was pretty nice and didn’t say two “grossly mismanaged” wars on borrowed money with no sacrifice asked of anyone other than the troops and the economy, eventually– I just said two wars, but the subtext was there.
Catch a clue, Tired. Catch a clue. I do agree that your stuck on the same old, same old and that your moniker fits, but don’t project that on to me unless you want to be a bit more honest. Some of us look to the past to weigh progress and to learn not to repeat mistakes. Open your eyes. Would Dems and their causes be better off under McCain or Bush? No. I was responding to jafo, as a Dem, and you say nothing about his ridiculous post? That tells me all I need to know…
Did you read Frank Rich’s op-ed about McCain yesterday? Check it out.
As for jafo’s exploitation of the true tragedy of domestic violence, during Domestic Violence Awareness month, to make a trifling and partisan political point– wow, that’s messed up.
And your tired defense of it isn’t much better.

Alyson,
Do you live along the Beltway? Or do you live in the ABC Newsroom?

“Tens of thousands of gay rights activists marched Sunday in Washington (without lying about their numbers to ridiculously inflate them) to show President Obama and Congress that they are impatient with piecemeal progress.”
Demanding their rights regardless of who is in office. I like that.
The right wing would have marched against Bush’s spending that they say they were so against but FoxNews did not tell them to.

I believe that some standards should not be changed.Icould agree with what gays want if they could reproduce without Alterations.

Alyson’s excellent arguments (delivered under her name) must be overwhelming the spammer, so he has to use personal attack . . . because there is nothing else.
Posted by: tierra | Oct 12, 2009 6:14:36 PM
Thanks Tierra.
Tired, nope and nope.