Today’s Qs for O’s WH – 10/19/2009
EmailWe were joined at the top of the briefing by Melody Barnes, director of the White House Domestic Policy Council, and Jared Bernstein, chief economist and policy adviser to Vice President Biden, who heralded a new report indicating that the stimulus bill had created or saved roughly 250,000 jobs in education.
TAPPER: So these 250,000, these are auditable jobs? These are directly created, all of them?
BERNSTEIN: Directly created. And I'm not exactly sure what you mean by auditable, but I think what you mean is that these are directly reported from recipients. And I want to stress that those of us who have been Keynesian economists throughout our lifetimes have never contemplated this level of transparency in — in a government stimulus program. We've never seen anything like this, where recipients are telling you precisely how taxpayer dollars are at work preserving and creating jobs. And I think it's particularly germane in the education sector, from the perspective that Melody Barnes was talking about. I mean, teachers, students, parents are walking into classrooms that would have been twice as large in the absence of these funds.
(CROSSTALK)
TAPPER: These are teachers? This is — none of these 250,000 are employees of the Department of Education or anything else?
BERNSTEIN: None of them are — well, they're not — they're not employees of the U.S. Department of Education, but they're not just teachers. They are education jobs. So there could be…
BARNES: Support staff.
BERNSTEIN: Yes, you want to speak to that?
BARNES: Yes, no, I mean, we're talking teachers, support personnel, the same thing in — in the higher education context. But these are people who are, you know, teaching students or working in the support of teaching students or the operations of the educational facilities.
TAPPER: Do you know how many are teachers versus how many are secretaries or people who work for the local boards of education?
BARNES: I don't know that we have that — that breakdown.
(LATER)
TAPPER: If Karzai refuses to participate in a run-off, as he's signaled — and he has signaled this. This is not a hypothetical…If he refuses to participate in a run-off and refuses to engage in any sort of unity government, will he be seen as a credible leader?
GIBBS: Well, again, I don't — I'm going to let not just words speak, but I think ultimately actions are going to have to speak, in many cases, louder than words. I'm not going to get ahead of this process. Obviously, determinations are going to be made by the ECC, by the IEC, and then it's going to be incredibly important for — for the world to see that Afghan leaders are willing to make this process legitimate. And that's the process that we're encouraging.
TAPPER: The IEC — the IEC is refusing to accept the EEC's results.
GIBBS: Right. And I think it's now up to the Afghans to make this legitimate.
CNN’S SUZANNE MALVEAUX: Will President Obama — will he get involved? Will he go ahead and approach Karzai, if necessary?
GIBBS: Well, I'm — I'm not going to get ahead of that. Again, I — we've got one of the best in the business right now on the ground and have been — has been for a long time in Karl Eikenberry, who is working through, obviously, a delicate but extremely important situation as it relates to our posture in Afghanistan.
TAPPER: Can I just ask one question on health care? During the campaign, President Obama often talked about the importance of not — this is a quote – “not negotiating behind closed doors, but bringing all parties together and broadcasting those negotiations on C-SPAN.” Do you think President Obama and those who are negotiating health care right now are living up to that promise?
GIBBS: Well, I think I've — I've seen a number of — of clips from footage from the very beginning of meetings that were held, some of which were aired on C-SPAN, as a health care proposal was developed, understanding that the merging of two committee bills is just one step along a long process. And I think the American people have — have gotten quite a bit of news coverage on this topic.
TAPPER: But you're talking about the health care forum you guys had here…
GIBBS: Yes.
TAPPER: … that went — but that was, what, March or April?
GIBBS: The beginning of the process of putting together health care reform, yes.
TAPPER: But since then, there have been significant negotiations both on Capitol Hill — you have White House representatives on Capitol Hill right now. You have deals that were cut with big Pharma, with the hospitals, with the doctors. Do you think that that has upheld this promise of transparency?
GIBBS: I — I do think the administration has been transparent. I think the — I think the process, again, is ongoing. Trust me: I'd love to declare that the process is over. It's not. It's ongoing, and I think transparency will be continued.
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===Well, again, I don’t — I’m going to let not just words speak, but I think ultimately actions are going to have to speak, in many cases, louder than words. ===
Finally, something Gibbs and I can agree on. Too bad he doesn’t get the irony.
Posted by: Axey | October 19, 2009, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
===Trust me: I’d love to declare that the process is over. It’s not. It’s ongoing, and I think transparency will be continued.===
What transparency is he speaking of? He didn’t understand the question, apparently. There is no transparency.
Posted by: Axey | October 19, 2009, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
In light of two disputed elections that have occurred this year, who does Obama consider to have more legitimacy, Karzai or Ahmadinejad?
Posted by: bgates | October 19, 2009, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
It appears that a number of Obama’s closest advisors are Maoists. Would Obama describe his own philosophy as closer to Maoism, Stalinism, or Leninism, or does he try to take the best parts of all three?
Posted by: bgates | October 19, 2009, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
… are Maoists.
Posted by: bgates | Oct 19, 2009 2:15:52 PM
Silly rabbit. So, Lee Atwater was a Maoist as well? And George H.W. Bush and Karl Rove?
Let me guess, you’re one of those far right conservative base folks who thinks s/he has “special knowledge” about a secret takeover of the government. LOL!!!
And you think mimicking Beck is somehow impressive?
Posted by: Alyson | October 19, 2009, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
“And you think mimicking Beck is somehow impressive?”
Great minds and all that jazz…
Posted by: Ryan C | October 19, 2009, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
a new report indicating that the stimulus bill had created or saved roughly 250,000 jobs in education.
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That’s good news, though I hope more jobs stimulation is on the way. I’m not clear why it matters whether the numbers include secretaries (??)
As for transparency on health care reform, there’s been more than there was in the 1990s, and more opportunity for input and discussion, obviously, but still…
Posted by: Alyson | October 19, 2009, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in USA…
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Hillary Clinton suffers ‘mis-speaking’ relapse with Belfast bomb claims…
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White House admits: We ‘control’ news media…
Escalates war on FOXNEWS…
…Urges rest of press to side with administration
Chairman Mao would be proud
Posted by: turn to Chairman Mao for guidance | October 19, 2009, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
=== So, Lee Atwater was a Maoist as well? And George H.W. Bush and Karl Rove? ===
So that is the standard you want your side to live up to?
I think they floated it was a joke. Must not have gone well.
Posted by: Axey | October 19, 2009, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
“It appears that a number of Obama’s closest advisors are Maoists.”
bgates | Oct 19, 2009 2:15:52 PM
The Right seems to take pride in being stupid. You can certainly respect Mao’s grasp of tactics while deploring his ideology, in the same way you can admire Jefferson and Madison’s contributions to founding our nation without agreeing with their owning slaves and defending slavery as an acceptable and moral practice.
Obama has voiced admiration for Reagan’s administration, does that make him a conservative?
Posted by: jhw539 | October 19, 2009, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
London – Asian central banks are running out of ammunition to fight their currencies’ biggest rally since 1998, paving the way for South Korea, Taiwan, Indonesia, Thailand and India to help lead foreign-exchange performance next year.
Investors are fueling the rallies by seeking greater returns outside the U.S., where near- zero interest rates have made the dollar a favorite to sell in so-called carry trades.
Way to go, Barry.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | October 19, 2009, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
The Right seems to take pride in being stupid. You can certainly respect Mao’s grasp of tactics while deploring his ideology
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No.
You can not respect anything about Mao’s tactics.
I prefer to think Dunn just didn’t know what she was talking about.
Posted by: MayBee | October 19, 2009, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
“No.
You can not respect anything about Mao’s tactics.
I prefer to think Dunn just didn’t know what she was talking about.”
MayBee | Oct 19, 2009 2:48:04 PM
Do you respect the Constitution even though it was written in part by men who owned slaves – who actively bought and sold other people for profit?
Posted by: jhw539 | October 19, 2009, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Do you respect the Constitution even though it was written in part by men who owned slaves – who actively bought and sold other people for profit?
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You are talking about tactics.
Mao’s tactics were killing the academics, the doctors, the teachers.
Do you mean you can respect his ideology without respecting his actions or tactics?
Posted by: MayBee | October 19, 2009, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
So that is the standard you want your side to live up to?
Posted by: Axey | Oct 19, 2009 2:41:21 PM
Nice obfuscation. Are they Maoists? If not, then drop the ridiculous canard. That’s the point. If they are, why did you vote for a Maoist and his son? Does that make you a Maoist? Or someone you know? And if you’re a Maoist why would you be so concerned by another so-called Maoist? Or do you only like neocon Maoists?
Eyeroll.
Posted by: Alyson | October 19, 2009, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
“The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 119.15 points, or 1.7%, to end at 7062.93. The blue-chip benchmark ended down 937.93 points, or 11.72% on the month — the worst percentage drop since 1933, when it fell 15.62%.”
It’s happening on the Messiah’s watch…”
Fascist Hyena | Feb 27, 2009 8:02:23 PM
Just a historical footnote for anyone who is curious how good a market strategy “hate Obama and America” really is. (I made 25% by ignoring Fascist in Feb, although that was more driven by waiting on my SIMPLE retirement investments until after I knew my tax outlook.)
Posted by: jhw539 | October 19, 2009, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
===Obama has voiced admiration for Reagan’s administration, does that make him a conservative?===
No. But it makes him wise enough to recognize a great man.
Posted by: Axey | October 19, 2009, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
“So that is the standard you want your side to live up to?”
So the left should never stoop to the appalling standards of the right….
What advice from a right winger who would like their lies to remain unchallenged.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 19, 2009, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Now that the Senate Finance Committee has passed its version of health care reform, 42% of voters nationwide favor the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. That’s down two points from a week ago and down four from the week before.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 54% are opposed to the plan.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | October 19, 2009, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
“You are talking about tactics.
Mao’s tactics were killing the academics, the doctors, the teachers.”
MayBee | Oct 19, 2009 2:55:54 PM
Did you even bother to listen to Dunn’s discussion where she clearly and explicitly laid what she was referring to? Or are you relying on your magic Right Wing mind reading powers rather than the woman’s own words and description of the narrow lesson to be drawn from Mao (and – literally cited in the same breath – Mother Teresa)?
Posted by: jhw539 | October 19, 2009, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
“Just a historical footnote for anyone who is curious how good a market strategy “hate Obama and America” really is. (I made 25% by ignoring Fascist in Feb, although that was more driven by waiting on my SIMPLE retirement investments until after I knew my tax outlook.)”
I wonder if he was selling real estate in 2005/2006.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 19, 2009, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
“The latest Rasmussen Reports ”
Hey ABC – could you just set up a feed to post all Rasmussen Reports directly to comment threads? It would really save Fascist here a lot of cutting and pasting. Thanks.
Posted by: jhw539 | October 19, 2009, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
===Nice obfuscation. Are they Maoists?===
Actually, I have no idea what you are referring to. Did Bush and Rove say they looked to Mao for political philosophy?
Posted by: Axey | October 19, 2009, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
“READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in USA…”
Right wing nuts gearing up for violence.
Let’s hope the amount of innocent people killed is minimal.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 19, 2009, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
“Hey ABC – could you just set up a feed to post all Rasmussen Reports directly to comment threads? It would really save Fascist here a lot of cutting and pasting. Thanks.”
There are enough unemployed people out there already.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 19, 2009, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Did you even bother to listen to Dunn’s discussion where she clearly and explicitly laid what she was referring to?
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Yes.
She. She used him as an example of thinking outside the box, not listening to criticism, and not taking “no” for an answer.
Like Mao was a plucky leader with a can-do attitude.
But how he fought his war is what is repulsive. It is the opposite of inspiriting.
It would be same as quoting Hitler to prove to kids they can overcome obstacles. Or citing Pol Pot as a great agrarian. All of them were ruthless murderers of their own innocents.
Now…do you mean you can appreciate Mao’s ideology without approving of his tactics?
Posted by: MayBee | October 19, 2009, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Nevermind. Bush read and recommended a biography of Mao to Rove. The man who can’t read, is reading Mao, ergo Media Matters makes the link for ya’. I’m not sure how that works, but there you are, the leaps taken by the left to defend one of their own.
Posted by: Axey | October 19, 2009, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
I’m beginning to think there are a lot of people who don’t realize what Mao did as he took control of China.
The benefit of closing his country off for decades, I suppose.
Posted by: MayBee | October 19, 2009, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Apparently a lot more people need to read biographies of Mao, Axey.
Posted by: MayBee | October 19, 2009, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
MayBee,
I went looking for a quote by Bush and Rove wherein they said Mao was one of their favorite political philosophers. I found instead they read a book. Very odd, considering for 8 years we were told Bush couldn’t read.
Posted by: Axey | October 19, 2009, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
“Yes.
She. She used him as an example of thinking outside the box, not listening to criticism, and not taking “no” for an answer.”
Mao was an example of thinking outside the box as was her other example Mother Teresa.
Seriously has the RNC cut your pay for sounding too rational so now you jump on the Beck crazy train?
Posted by: Ryan C | October 19, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
the leaps taken by the left to defend one of their own.
Posted by: Axey | Oct 19, 2009 3:10:55 PM
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And the leaps the right takes to take those on the left out of context, distort, mislabel and smear them for obvious reasons (see Anita Dunn called out Fox and Fox struck back) is what? Laudable? Worth perpetuating? Makes you cool? Makes you feel powerful, sorta like bullies do? Or is it the self-righteous, “secret knowledge” cult thing?
Posted by: Alyson | October 19, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
===Posted by: Alyson | Oct 19, 2009 3:20:10 PM===
I was hoping you would come back with the actual quotes of Bush and Rove to prove me wrong. You really shouldn’t be preaching to me about taking things out of context.
Posted by: Axey | October 19, 2009, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
“GIBBS: I — I do think the administration has been transparent.”
Is Gibbs incompetent, completely detached from reality, or a pathological liar? I’d say equal parts of all of the above.
Posted by: tjp612 | October 19, 2009, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
“Nevermind. Bush read and recommended a biography of Mao to Rove. The man who can’t read, is reading Mao”
ROFLMAO!
Bush is a secret commie!
Oh noeeesss!!11!
Posted by: Ryan C | October 19, 2009, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
===Mao was an example of thinking outside the box ===
Maybe she should read some American history and maybe she could find an American that thought outside the box. Someone like say, George Washington, who took on the British Empire. And won.
Posted by: Axey | October 19, 2009, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
“Maybe she should read some American history and maybe she could find an American that thought outside the box”
ROFLMAO!
The jingoism of the right wing rarely gets more pathetic.
“Someone like say, George Washington, who took on the British Empire. And won.”
Actually its nice to see a return to jingoism by the right wing.
Their screaming about improper gifts and respect given to the Queen of England was quite unseemly.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 19, 2009, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Maybe she should read some American history and maybe she could find an American that thought outside the box.
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Or someone whose idea of “thinking outside of the box” wasn’t killing all the doctors, academics, teachers, and 60 million or so others, while sending people to “reeducation” camps.
Posted by: MayBee | October 19, 2009, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
===Posted by: MayBee | Oct 19, 2009 3:30:43 PM===
You are picking nits, MayBee. What’s a few million dead bodies when you have philosophy on your side?
Posted by: Axey | October 19, 2009, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Or someone whose idea of “thinking outside of the box” wasn’t killing all the doctors, academics, teachers, and 60 million or so others, while sending people to “reeducation” camps.”
You’re transposing the civil war versus Chang Kai Shek which is what Dunn was talking about with the Cultural Revolution
But I guess the right wing is desperate and counting on the ignorance of their base to pass along inaccurate history.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 19, 2009, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
“She. She used him as an example of thinking outside the box, not listening to criticism, and not taking “no” for an answer.
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But how he fought his war is what is repulsive.”
MayBee | Oct 19, 2009 3:10:33 PM
You never answered my question – do you admire Jefferson or Madison or their work, the Constitution, even though they bought and sold human beings for profit?
Posted by: jhw539 | October 19, 2009, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
You never answered my question – do you admire Jefferson or Madison or their work, the Constitution, even though they bought and sold human beings for profit?
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I do not admire their slaveholding tactics. I admire the product of their political ideology.
Do you admire Mao’s tactics? Because that’s what you were supporting. If you want to say you admire Mao’s political philosophy, that would be comparable.
If you want to compare Mao to Jefferson, you go right ahead. All people who do bad things are not equally bad. Mao was among the worst.
Is it really so hard to say “Mao was a poor example of someone to be admired”? We wouldn’t accept Hitler being used in such a way.
Posted by: MayBee | October 19, 2009, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Maybe George or sombody could get Obama or somebody on and get out the dictionary again and define transparancy the smoke and mirrors they are useing now is not it [can you define tax]
Posted by: earl | October 19, 2009, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Does anybody still admire Ronald Reagan, even though he allowed the illegal sale of arms to Iran to fund terrorist activities in Central America?
Posted by: Skip | October 19, 2009, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
“Does anybody still admire Ronald Reagan, even though he allowed the illegal sale of arms to Iran to fund terrorist activities in Central America?”
Does “Ronaldus Maximus” on the new GOP.com answer your question?
Posted by: Ryan C | October 19, 2009, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
You guys are sounding desperate.
Posted by: Axey | October 19, 2009, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
“You guys are sounding desperate.”
ROFLMAO!
The right wing rolls out red baiting and we are the desperate ones!
Posted by: Ryan C | October 19, 2009, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
He said “created or saved” 250,000 jobs, so no, they were not “directly created,” and they are not “auditable.” More smoke and mirrors from the MOST TRANSPARENT ADMINISTRATION EVAH!
Posted by: MBS | October 19, 2009, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
These “answers” sound like they were pulled directly from the text of Atlas Shrugged.
Who is John Galt?
Posted by: Mike in Costa Mesa | October 19, 2009, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Why is it that ABC has lost its ability to think? All of the journalists are gone. No one has what it takes to ask serious questions such as – “Why is Anita Dunn quotes and like China’s Chairman Mao. Has she forgotten that Mao is the biggest mass murderer in modern history. WAKE UP ABC OBAMA IS A MARXIST.
Posted by: Tom Rockford | October 19, 2009, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
While the rest of you bicker over who has or has not read Chairman Mao and display a dismaying ignorance of real history (folks on both sides are guilty, as far as I can see), I want to address the exchange between Tapper and Gibbs, which continues to be one the best but most maddening shows in town.
Tapper was trying to get a serious answer to a very crucial question– do the figures on jobs represent real jobs that were actually created, and by what standards are they measured? Gibby, as usual, tried to duck, doing his usual “created or saved” tap dance. Sounds like in education, they are claiming credit for school districts not laying off education workers, which is indeed a good thing for which credit is due, but that is not the same as creating new jobs in education or elsewhere, which would mean more of the currently unemployed being able to get back to work and which also means more working people would be paying taxes and spending money to contribute to the economy. Tax revenue is down at all levels of government, and increased business hiring and spending as well as decreased unemployment is crucial to turning that around. We need long-term solutions, not stop gap measures. Postponing layoffs from the local elementary school for another year is a step in the right direction, but we need a broad based economic recovery that will mean the local school board has the resources to keep paying the teachers they have and to hire more.
Thanks as always for doing solid work at the daily press briefing, Mr. Tapper.
Posted by: moderate | October 19, 2009, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Also, thanks to Mr. Tapper for holding Gibby’s feet to fire about the lack of “transparency” in the health insurance reform negotiations. Candidate Obama made promises is that regard that President Obama can’t keep. He set the bar high, and Gibbs should admit it rather than pretend that letting cameras in to record the opening of large meetings at the WH early in the process is what Obama was talking about. We were told, by candidate Obama, that the NEGOTIATIONS should be on C-SPAN. Then again, we were told everyone with a stake in the process would be at the table for those negotiations, and with the exception of Olympia Snowe, no Republicans are participating in the current efforts to weave the two Senate bills into one that will go before the full chamber for a vote. Does not seem terribly inclusive or transparent to me.
Posted by: moderate | October 19, 2009, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Independents and senior citizens, two groups crucial to the debate, have warmed to the idea of a public insurance option, and are particularly supportive if it were administered by the states and limited to those without access to affordable private insurance, as stipulated in some versions of the legislation.
But in a sign of the fragile coalition politics that now influence the negotiations in Congress, Obama’s approval ratings on health care are slipping among his fellow Democrats even as they are solidifying among independents and seniors. Among Democrats, strong approval of his handling of health care has dropped 15 percentage points since mid-September.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | October 19, 2009, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
no Republicans are participating in the current efforts to weave the two Senate bills into one that will go before the full chamber for a vote.
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Couple of interesting tidbits on that. First, the DNC delivered mops to the RNC today, with bows on them. They urged Michael Steele to come accept the mops alongside an invitation to help mop up the mess, but alas they had to leave the mops at the door.
Second, when the GOP strategy is delay, define, derail it doesn’t sound like they’re all that interested in a seat at the table– with the exception of Olympia Snowe.
Third, the new WaPo-ABC poll asks questions about the public option and bipartisanship in a more telling way than other nonpartisan polls have (not unlike a Daily Kos poll I mentioned recently) and people want a pubic option more than they want bipartisanship. Just an FYI.
Posted by: GwenTen | October 19, 2009, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Yeah! We saved, created, preserved 250k jobs, as reported to us by the recipients of the “stimulus” money, but we can’t tell you exactly what those jobs are as we didn’t bother to break it down for you, kinda like how we didn’t bother to break down the models of cars bought using the cash for clunkers money, cause it was embarassing. These people are pathetic and so is most of the media for not even bothering to push them on it. Tapper you needed to keep pushing them on when they will have the jobs breakdown available to you. Good job on embarrassing Gibbsy on this whole transparency baloney.
Posted by: Jason | October 19, 2009, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
Why on earth does this White House have as a Communications Director a woman who very, very clearly–out of her own mouth–is an admirer of Mao Tse Tung?
Who are these people?
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | October 19, 2009, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
“Why on earth does this White House have as a Communications Director a woman who very, very clearly–out of her own mouth–is an admirer of Mao Tse Tung?”
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Tired, old right wing tactic . . . pull one comment out of context from something someone said somewhere, sometime in the past, pretend it constitutes a total picture of their philosophy and intentions and condemn the whole person.
Your tactics are discredited, tired and cheap.
Posted by: julieterra | October 19, 2009, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
===pull one comment out of context from something someone said somewhere===
You haven’t heard her speech, have you? Her explanation is Lee Attwater and irony. I don’t think she understands the meaning of irony.
Posted by: Axey | October 19, 2009, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
“You haven’t heard her speech, have you?”
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You mean I haven’t heard that ONE line taken from her speech? Grow up . . .
Posted by: julieterra | October 19, 2009, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Note to self (Rahm/Obama).. don’t let Val J. hire anyone else.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | October 20, 2009, 7:19 am 7:19 am
This crazy Maoist they have in the White House now. What a find!
What planet did the lizard woman come from to help our lowly blue marble?
This white house is a zoo of exotic creatures off all the hard left movements. Mao (killed about 30-50 million of his own), Rev. Wright, Billy Ayers, Blogo, Rezko all very close to our Dear Leader. Like family.
The new addition fits right in.
Posted by: A. Lincoln | October 21, 2009, 6:58 am 6:58 am