By Gorman Gorman

Oct 13, 2009 1:22pm

What about Joe? Much work remains for Dems after Finance vote

ABC’s Z. Byron Wolf reports:

All eyes are on the Senate Finance Committee this morning, where there have not yet been any surprises. But Republicans are circulating snippets from an interview conducted by Don Imus of Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Independent from Connecticut who caucuses with Democrats. He's one of the 60 votes Democrats will need to pass a sweeping reform bill. In a reminder that once the Finance Committee passes its bill today, there is still a very long road for health reform, Lieberman told Imus he doesn't support the Baucus bill and he thinks President Obama is trying to do too much. "I've been saying for a couple of months now that I'm concerned, that I'm concerned that there's a danger that we're trying to do too much here and the president is trying to do two good things. But doing them at once in the middle of a recession may be hard to pull off," Lieberman said, according to a transcript circulated by Republicans. He went on: "And the two good things are to bend the cost of health care down by changing a lot of the ways health care is delivered. The second thing is to cover some of the people, millions of people, who are not covered with insurance. So, this puts us in the position where you say, on the one hand, what we're about to do in adopting health care reform will, will reduce the cost of health insurance from what it would otherwise be and the other hand you say, oh incidentally, we're going to raise your taxes or cut your Medicare to the tune of $900 billion or a trillion. And people are beginning to think that maybe they'd do better holding on to what they have now." Lieberman's statement underscore the perilous situation for Democrats who will take the Baucus bill and try to marry it with what the HELP Committee passed in July. They will have to attract Lieberman's vote on one end of the spectrum. And only the votes of more liberal senators who think the Baucus bill does not go far enough toward universal coverage. Only one Democrat, Sen. Roland Burris of Illinois, has said he won't vote for a bill that lacks a public option. "The inclusion of a public option as a central component to any healthcare reform legislation is the only way to create meaningful competition with the insurance companies, and in turn, bring down costs and improve quality of care for the people of Illinois and all Americans," said Burris on the Senate floor recently. But other liberals, like Sens. John Kerry of Massachusetts and Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia have pledged to do their best to force a public option and affordability votes on the Senate floor. It's hard to square those pledges with changes to mollify Lieberman and other moderates, who opposes a public option. Wiggle room on the public option could come in the form of wordplay. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, whose job it will be to marry the HELP and Baucus Finance Committee bills, has said there are different variations of a public option, even suggesting that the series of non-governmental co-ops envisioned by the Baucus bill could substitute for the public option. But where it comes to affordability for people who currently have health insurance, there is less wiggle room. And there is also the undeniable fact that the Baucus bill does not insure every American. "The bill before us still falls short of what people need and what people expect from us," said Rockefeller during today's Finance Committee markup. "It is not enough," Rockefeller said. "Universal coverage has always been the goal" He'll have to swallow his reservations and support the Baucus bill in the committee vote later today if he wants to make changes on the Senate floor in the future.

User Comments

We all know Sen.Joe L runs with whomever is the most powerful and influencial at any given time. He’s not a Democrat, or even an effective Senator. He’s a paid performer and he’s about as sincere as a rattlesnake.
Let’s hear more about what Sen. Rockerfeller and Sen. Kerry are doing.
These Senators are both well-known for their positive contributions.
How come they’re not the subject of this discussion?

Posted by: Grandpa | October 13, 2009, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

I can’t believe there is actually going to be a vote without a final version of the bill being written or scored by the CBO… I thought it was all just Republican propaganda. We should all be ashamed for having elected these buffoons.

Posted by: Shane | October 13, 2009, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

I am so proud of Olympia Snowe! Man, do we produce some great Americans in Maine, or what? Margaret Chase Smith, George Mitchell, former Secretary of Defense Bill Cohen, UN rep Susan Rice, and Olympia Snowe! Smart, ethical, and strong, yeah, call her a RINO! I dare yah!

Posted by: Amy in Maine | October 13, 2009, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

Is it true that taxes and fees would
take affect after this bill is signed
but the coverage or plan does not
start for three years????

Posted by: wis134 | October 13, 2009, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

I can’t believe there is actually going to be a vote without a final version of the bill being written or scored by the CBO… I thought it was all just Republican propaganda. We should all be ashamed for having elected these buffoons.
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You should really try and find out what you are talking

Posted by: Thinking | October 13, 2009, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Though I have my own reservations about many portions of various bills, my concern, regarding healthcare reform, is still accessablity.
We can have as much taxes as you think are needed, or as few; public option, co-ops or neither one but if there aren’t any provisions to encourage more doctors to enter pediatric, geriatric, internal medicine or general medicine(usually termed as family specialties) rather than going into the more profitable specialties, then we’ll still be woefully short of the doctors we need to maintain the existing, let alone all the new patients that will be added into the system with any one of the bills in the house or the senate.
Makeing sure that everyone, or almost everyone, has health insurance is a fine idea, but if the infurstructure isn’t there, ie medical practitioners, aren’t there to care for them then we’ll just end up with worsening of care for everyone or rationing of care based on what insurance you have.
Many doctors do that now by not seeing any Medicaid patients and opting to be non-medicare approved providers, because they can’t afford the lower reimbursement rates.
One of my fears for the people who get a public option(if that ends up being the case) is that it will end up being similar to Liability coverage, compared with auto-insurance. Essentally worthless coverage, but you don’t have to pay fines for not having coverage.

Posted by: bobtherepublican | October 13, 2009, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

It took more than just a little political courage for Sen. Snowe to vote for the bill. I hope she knows that there are many independent moderate voters who admire that courage.

Posted by: B. Bear | October 13, 2009, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

They must’ve had something on Snowe that she was really worried about getting out. Why else would anybody who is supposedly sane vote to set up a bill which hardly anybody has even read? Something is wrong here.

Posted by: Bill | October 13, 2009, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

Sen. Snowe’s yes vote may not be as critical as people think, since the finance committee did not approve the public option version . The Rockfeller’s version did not prevail. It is important that the version agreed by this committee clearly show large cut will be made on Medicare , numerous tax will be added to middle class American whose income is less than 250k, and those currently under employer insurance may not be able to stick to their current insurance as Obama stated.

Posted by: austin | October 13, 2009, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

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