White House vs. Fox News, Part 34

In June, President Obama said of Fox, And you’d be hard-pressed, if you watched the entire day, to find a positive story about me on that front.”
This is a complete lie. But, I am getting used to that from Obama.

WOW, i never really watched much FOX news, mostly internet news, but now i cannot wait to get home after work to tune in FOX. This is increasing viewership. First it was a Rush Limbaugh challenge issued by the White House, now its a FOX news one. Every chance the President get to mention the shortcomings of the previous administration, he does. Its really starting to look like the White House feels threatened. Its making them look suspicious

Chris Matthews said it was his job to make sure OBama succeeded.
A Newsweek journalist said “Obama is above country, he is above the world, like God”.
I guess because FOX has not pledged it’s unconditional loyalty to Obama’s agenda or declared him a deity, they have to be attacked.
Really funny! I am sure Obama will get around to control of the media once he finishes with automakers, Banks and Health Care.
No idea when he plans to work out a war stratagy though!
I guess it is a matter of priority.

If Obama wants certain stories corrected, he should ask for corrections. That’s what other politicians- and especially presidents- do. They all get stories they don’t like or that aren’t worth the amount of coverage they are getting.
Fox also chose to run their successful program- So You Think You Can Dance- rather than Obama’s last two prime time addresses. Fox did run the speech on two of its channels, which out-draw both MSNBC and CNN. But that wasn’t enough for this White House. They want the networks to lose money on them.
The way they are pushing back against Fox is unprecedented and should scare all journalists and networks. The White House, the most powerful office on earth, will come after you and try to change you if you don’t give them the coverage they want. And they’ll use taxpayer money to do it.

Fox News is a joke. In journalism school, my professors always used it as an example of what NOT to do. True journalists don’t respect this entertainment network. The job of journalists is to inform objectively, not decide for the viewers. Fox News insults the intelligence of its viewers.

I think it’s much worse than how the White House paints it: Fox News is a foreign-owned media outlet that is doing everything it can to prevent productive discourse and democratic progress in this country. It’s goal is to distract Americans from finding viable solutions to the serious problems that confront us, and Fox is doing this in the most insidious way: by taking advantage of the very democratic values that have made this country so successful.
It’s widely known that Rupert Murdoch is a highly destabilizing extremist, whether it was during his years as a communist, or in coming full swing in the opposite direction, as a fanatic conservative bordering on fascism. As a dominant player in the American media landscape (Fox, Wall Street Journal, etc etc), he has the power to keep the American lunatic fringe front and center, dominating our attention far out of proportion to its actual numbers.
The downfall of successful democracies–as the French political scientist Jean-Francois Revel has eloquently portrayed–is its inherent inability to recognize and stop such destructive forces. As with all fascist-driven power elements, we as Americans have to helplessly sit and watch this Murdoch-driven puppet show as it ruthlessly manipulates public opinion in its efforts to further weaken American resolve. All the while Murdoch is laughing behind closed doors, patting his minions Rush and Glenn Beck, Hannity, and the others, and saying, “Good job, boys, keep up the excellent work!”

POOOOOOR Mr O. !!!! But just hold on Mr. President, you will soon have it ALL your way again!!! ….Oprah Winfrey’s new channel will have NOTHING but PRO-O !!! Shall WE complain then about the unfair treatment that channel is SURE present?? You/we ‘ain’t ‘ seen nothin’ yet when it comes to being one sided! Will you be attacking them for being TOO PRO O ???
I think all other channels ( cable or otherwise ) are afraid of you and your ‘machine’ at this point. The ‘so-called’ press has always been WAY too liberal, and WE all know it! FOX is a breath of fresh air. Truth at last! Your threats/attacks/slights against them show the REAL Barack Obama and it certainly isn’t positive or ‘presidential’ ! PLEASE consider going back to your ‘day job’ and give this country back!
I LOVE FOX!!

Fox to Obama: “We will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist…and take your thumb out of your mouth”

When Pres. Obama was going to school in Indonesia, his application listed his religion as Muslim, so not sure that the report was “false” in total…but that’s just one of the “fact checks” that you have not done on Ms. Anita Dunn’s accusations. Please provide a true fact check on these assertions, which will result in debunking her claims.
All journalists should be truly alarmed that the power of the White House and a presidential administration has been used to attack any new organization. It was shocking and wrong during the Nixon administration and it is the same today with the Obama administration.

Fox news contains a ‘sprinkling’ of facts on top of a cake made of a collection of opinions of the ‘newscasters’. They will ignore facts, obscure facts and twist facts to suit their opinions. That is not reporting the news.
Their obsession with repeating lies and inaccuracies, their cherry picking what is and isn’t reported, disqualifies them as a true news network in my opinion.
God help the person who only gets their news from that one channel. I can’t imagine how they wouldn’t be fearful, paranoid and angry.

Perhaps, Mr. President, if you could get Fox to agree to give you a list of questions a week in advance. Then prepare your answers, put them on a teleprompter, and appear ready for some real questions. SNL is going to make a joke of you from which you may never recover.

Angie in Pa | Oct 13, 2009 9:21:44 AM and you totally ignore the Bias of Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, Ed Shultz? How can you be so blinded, can you think for yourself without any news reporting you have to see that Obama’s actions are much farther to the Left than what he said during his campaign. Angie you need to think for yourself a little read some independent reporting that is not biases one way or the other MSNBC and CNN are not those sources and for a President to attack ONE news network with all the other problems that need solutions is just plain neglect of his duties. How about this President Obama stop playing Golf and basketball and attacking a news channel and do something other than force healthcare reform to a nation that does not want what you are offering. And angie you support a party that plays the Racism and Sexism card anytime they are called out or proven wrong do as we say or your a Racist or Sexist great policy. The Democrats have used fear, and hate plenty to make themselves look better to the Liberal base.

Forty-four percent (44%) of voters nationwide favor the health care plan proposed by President Obama and Congressional Democrats. Fifty percent (50%) are opposed.

===Dunn also took issue with Fox News Channel conducting a “fact check” of assistant secretary of Veterans Affairs Tammy Duckworth a week after her appearance on the show and not exactly saturating its airwaves with news about the scandal surrounding Sen. John Ensign, R-Nev.===
She didn’t take issue with CNN fact-checking a comedy show. And why on earth would she care if they saturated the airwaves with John Ensign? The SC governor sucked up all that airtime.

The faux outrage on here cracks me up, especially since noisily moaning about the allegedly “liberal media” is a favorite Republican past time and an integral part of their talking points. Fox News absolutely strikes me as opinion journalism masquerading as news, and I regard it as a wing of the GOP myself, although I often feel sorry for Shepard Smith; he’s sorta like Marilyn in the Munster Household.
Good post, spinoza (Posted by: spinoza | Oct 13, 2009 9:23:11 AM)

The Dems didn’t give bush a free ride. Doe’s Obama really think he gets one?

===In *recent* months? Please, Fox has been anti-Obama since the primaries. ===
And before that it was anti-Kerry and before that anti-Gore and before that anti-Clinton. But, it’s the highest rated cable news channel. Why don’t y’all just give it up? Fox isn’t going away.

I am sure there are a lot more important issues facing the country for him to be worried about. This lambasting Fox News on multiple fronts by the president and his staff is a waste of the American taxpayer’s dollars and is definitely not what we voted him into office to do.
so Mr. President, GET BACK TO WORK!!!

the way they sounded at fnc, i really felt that fnc people want obama to fail and humiliated in its handling of afghanistan, in its dealing with iran and north korea. fnc want this obama administration to fail in its economic and social programs. so i understand the obama’s white house for being combative towards fnc. i disagree with what chris wallace said, i think fnc is the one with thin skin.

Joe_Biggs | Oct 13, 2009 9:35:56 AM Lets see who is “LOL” in 2010 and again in 2012. Republicans have to do nothing besides sit back and watch this Administration destroy itself and its party.

===Democrats hold a supermajority yet are having a long, contentious debate over the best way to implement health care reform. ===
I didn’t say democrats, did I?

If only Pres. Obama would fight his real enemies, like the Taliban and Iran and NOKO as effectively as he fights Fox news! We may have a chance to win against the terrorists who want to kill us and our freedoms.
Instead, he wages war on his critics. Bush took it for 8 years. From ALL media. No one complained then!

“I didn’t say democrats, did I?”
Axey | Oct 13, 2009 9:55:07 AM
You said:
“Yeah. Because the left is certainly not about group think or anything.”
In the United States, Democrats are considered the left party. This article and discussion thread is about the Whitehouse, a Democratic administration.
Sometimes I agree that this country really should make English the standard language and require basic proficiency in it from citizens. I call you out on an absurd comment and you think “depends on what is is” is a clever response.

===In the United States, Democrats are considered the left party. ===
In the US, democrats won in conservative districts. Which will go back to a republican if the democrats elected in those districts choose to follow the left over the cliff. You are having a fight between democrats because those same “conservative” democrats will not be re-elected and they know it.

Am I the only one who finds it funny that Mrs. Dunn would attack Fox News for paying attention to Bill Ayres and Acorn instead of the two ongoing wars and the state of the economy and our financial system. This shows the stupidity of this administration and the Bias of you Liberals. By Mrs, Dunn’s own words this Administration should be concentrating on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and doing something to stop the rapid rise of unemployment. But instead they attack Fox News. What a double standard.

“By Mrs, Dunn’s own words this Administration should be concentrating on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and doing something to stop the rapid rise of unemployment. But instead they attack Fox News. What a double standard.”
batesba74 | Oct 13, 2009 10:04:22 AM
So the White House communications director has an instrumental role in Iraq, Afghanistan and the economy? Wow, it’s always fascinating to get a glipse into the right wing fantasy world.

Just so were clear…
Who Obama will talk to:
* Radical Leftists (Ayers, Van Jones)
* Iran
* North Korea
* Hugo Chavez
* European Socialists
Who Obama won’t talk to — but chooses to demonize:
* Those who believe in individual liberty
* Those who believe in free markets
* Conservatives
* Republicans

In the meantime, Shuster over at MSNBC is twittering about “wingnuts” all day. Very objective newsman there. But that does not bother Obama.

C’mon folks. Is it really a surprise that the WH is at war with FOX?
No, lies and distraction, and when that fails maybe he buys a new dog.
That way the “real media (ha!)” can spend all day gooing over the dog, while Fox reports real news stories.
Let’s face, the WH is only upset because News Corp. doesn’t need any stimulus money and he has already paid for the news coming from NBC (10 billion in bail out funds) and the NYT (2 billion in bail out funds)
Eventually Obama is going to realize that although 65 million people were dumb enough to vote for a guy they knew nothing about (thanks “real media”), they won’t be that stupid twice.

===In the United States, Democrats are considered the left party. ===
In the US, democrats won in conservative districts. Which will go back to a republican …”
Axey | Oct 13, 2009 10:03:20 AM
What are you talking about? I was pointing out you were blatantly wrong when you said:
“Yeah. Because the left is certainly not about group think or anything.”
And then after I pointed out the absurdity of that in light of the well-publicized vigorous debate amongst Democrats, you weasled:
“I didn’t say democrats, did I?”
Axey | Oct 13, 2009 9:55:07 AM
That has nothing to do with election prediction. It has to do with you throwing out a complete and utter falsehood and then changing the subject when your lie didn’t stick.

WH Communications Director is a communications idiot. She said, “Well I think that,” “Um,” and “You know” over a dozen times.
This White House is being run by a group of political novices led by the Amateur in Chief. Reminds me of the Jimmy Carter administration.

===It has to do with you throwing out a complete and utter falsehood and then changing the subject when your lie didn’t stick. ===
I don’t consider blue dog democrats part of the left. They are conservative democrats. Holdovers from days where democrats weren’t the party of stupid.

===Posted by: jhw539 | Oct 13, 2009 10:12:20 AM===
Instead of enlightening us as to what the WH communications director’s job actually is? I’m disappointed.

Let me help you out…
…The White House Director of Communications, also known as Assistant to the President for Communications, is part of the senior staff of the President of the United States, and is responsible for developing and promoting the President’s agenda and leading the President’s media campaign after he occupies the White House.
She is tasked with promoting the president’s agenda. Kill Fox News!!!! Don’t worry about the economy, wars, healthcare. Let’s do the important stuff.

So the White House communications director has an instrumental role in Iraq, Afghanistan and the economy? Wow, it’s always fascinating to get a glipse into the right wing fantasy world.
Posted by: jhw539 | Oct 13, 2009 10:06:23 AM
The White House Communications Director Speaks and Acts at the DIRECTION of the President and Chief of Staff and others in the administration that shape policy She does not speak her opinion but the opinion and talking points of the Administration. So if she is speaking of this it is at the direction of someone who can have an instrumental role in Iraq and Afghanistan. Try again!

I find it frightening that this administration is attempting to manipulate and intimidate any mouthpiece who exposes or criticizes. The following is very troubling and I hope ABC at least looks into its veracity: “The Department of Justice has hired a team of partisan Democrat campaign blogger’s to work at the Department. “The Muffled Oar has learned this decision was treated with a great deal of skepticism both inside the career ranks at the Department but also among some Obama loyalists who expressed concern that such a decision would lend itself to the growing appearance that the Holder Justice Department is more political than the Bush Justice Department was ever accused of being”.

This is shocking why? Obama’s campaign PR staff was full of self professed socialists. You know who else attacks the media? HUGO CHAVEZ.

“The Obama White House has attacked all of these individuals or groups”
MayBee | Oct 13, 2009 10:23:36 AM
It’s so cute how to the Right wing considers being called on their lies “attacking”. Free speech doesn’t count for the President (unless he’s a Republican, and then he can even talk about CIA agents at will).

===(unless he’s a Republican, and then he can even talk about CIA agents at will). ===
In the world of reality…that didn’t happen.

===not covered on FOX.===
Sure it does. That’s how I know about it. I certainly don’t watch MSNBC or CNN.

It’s so cute how to the Right wing considers being called on their lies “attacking”. Free speech doesn’t count for the President (unless he’s a Republican, and then he can even talk about CIA agents at will).
Posted by: jhw539 | Oct 13, 2009 10:32:13 AM
Funny how when the White House is called out on their lies they call it being attacked by the Evil Right Wing Fox News Network, Since when was reporting the other side of the story or the story that does not show Obama as GOD become attacking? Again A double Standard by jhw539 and Liberals everywhere!

The president had declared war on Fox News. He can’t bring himself to say one good thing about the US while abroad, but he can snarl that lip and spew “Fox” with the best of them.

Obama needn’t be concerned with doing interviews with tabloid media like Fox, The National Enquirer or the Star. Fox only appeals to that same 30 something percent which unwaveringly ‘strongly disapproves’ at Rasmussen no matter what happens. I think ignoring them is perfectly appropriate.

I think it very dangerous when the government decides what news or views I should listen to or have access to and which one’s I should not. I am a big boy and quite able to discern opinion from fact. The problem with only seeing one side of anything is the development of a warped perspective on everything.

ABC…it’s about time that you and other reputable NEWS media Tell the public WHO owns this PIECE of FOX and why it IS an “OPINION SHOW” masquerading as NEWS. That person is the man that told Glenn Beck that “this is the ALAMO for the Prez, and don’t stop until the last gun is fired. This is the man that created the “WILLIE HORTON” commercial when Dukakus was on top of the polls for the Democratic Party. This station has systemically not “discussed” their “opinions” on the Republicans and their misdeeds be it sex scandals, contractors, and well connected companies to the Republicans. And there are many. In the middle of a financial Meltdown and Wars that were out of control, during the last months of the Bush administration….the opinions were focused on some non-issues, while Americans were falling over a Cliff. They are using the airwaves of the FCC to not only solicted funds for such out of mainstream causes such as the “Birthers and Tea Party”.. and is inigiting a Racial divide in this country that Martin Luther King, Jr. would be sadden by. Yes they are “screaming and yelling” appealing to the Angry and Irrational/ masquerading as “News” when they take reputable NEWS organization’s headlines to perpetrate as “their news”, to simple debate and offer their opinions. Lets not forget that this is the station that caters to “pettiness” when this country is facing Huge problems…This is an “investigation” ARM of the Republican party….and it’s premise is to distort and deceive the angry, irrational persons of this society. I remember watching Chris Wallace years ago, and put him in the league of Walter and Sam, now I see him as “trying” to hold on to that reputation in the “mist” of all of that “GARBAGE”. Any network that employs such people as Hannity and Glenn Beck should be “yanked” out of mainstream broadcast by the FCC. I won’t get into what these fanatics has said that is/and should be Offensive to all Americans. The sad thing about it, is no one could imagine that America has this Vast amount of ignorance in it. And the ignorance is been played on by Fox, masquarading as NEWS. Anita Dunn is absolutely correct.

“If only Pres. Obama would fight his real enemies, like the Taliban and Iran and NOKO as effectively as he fights Fox news! We may have a chance to win against the terrorists who want to kill us and our freedoms.”
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Oh, you didn’t hear the news? Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Hannity, Fox, and the likes are part of the coalition! They all cheered when he lost the olympics while they snickered when he won the Nobel peace prize.

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When it comes to the media, Obama is stealing from the Richard Nixon playbook.
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And we know how will Nixon did.

I would think that if FOX lied, the WH would work to shut them down or give us the truth. It appears the truth to the WH is that part of the story they want us to hear. Life health reform will really save us money!!!! A lot of people disagree with that, even FOX. We won’t know the truth until 4 or 5 years down the road, when all the ‘promoters’ are out of office. The other news networks must have fallen in line.

All caps are considered yelling on the internet.

sara:Ethnics is Ethnics…you would think.
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You would think.

No one including “the government” is NOT Telling You what to “ingest” in your system….like Fox, like you! Stay Ignorant. Who cares….it never wins over truth and rationale anyway.

===Posted by: MayBee | Oct 13, 2009 11:23:16 AM===
Oh dear, I missed that.

===What is so fascinating about this is that Hannity blatantly lied. Those that saw the speech (as I did) knew it the instant he said it.===
Why do you watch Hannity? I don’t understand those who hate the channel watching it and giving it a larger share of the viewing audience. You know, the way to rid yourself of Fox is to stop watching it.
Today, October 13, 2009, 2 minutes ago | Axey
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Why watch?
Keep your friends close…and your enemies closer!

It is supposed to be an opinion show from an admitted partisan.
Other networks have them too.
The audience can listen to those they disagree with, or those they agree with. People can figure out who best represents the facts and who best argues their opinion.
A free country can handle this kind of spin, whether it’s from a supporter or an opponent of any given politician.
Today, October 13, 2009, 4 minutes ago | MayBee
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Fox doesn’t just ‘spin’. They flat out lie.
The fact that they call themselves a news organization is the biggest lie.
I watch all the news. And I never see this kind of blatant lying.

A whole bunch of Keith Olberman and the Tingler fans are on this board.
Of course they offer fair and balanced news all the time.
Lol.

This is so funny. Just let everyone watch the news they like. Communist News Network(CNN) and others like them are going to praise Obama because they are Liberal ran. Just like MSNBC and ABC. FOX is probably ran by conservative owner. Its no different. Ever watch CNN, MSNBC bash republicans. Sure you do everyday! Which show has the best ratings? Come on now.
This list will kind of hurt the White House Claims. Probably get my post deleted too!
Top 10 Cable News Programs, Q1 2009 (by total viewers)
1. The O’Reilly Factor: 3,438,000 total viewers
2. Hannity: 2,579,000 total viewers
3. Glenn Beck: 2,271,000 total viewers
4. Special Report with Bret Baier: 2,092,000 total viewers
5. On the Record with Greta Van Susteren: 1,977,000 total viewers
6. The FOX Report with Shepard Smith: 1,927,000 total viewers
7. The O’Reilly Factor (repeat): 1,457,000 total viewers
8. America’s Newsroom: 1,445,000 total viewers
9. Your World with Neil Cavuto: 1,428,000 total viewers
10. Countdown with Keith Olbermann: 1,327,000 total viewers

I wouldn’t give either Beck or Hannity any of my time, but the comments are so outrageous that they are reported on Mainstream News and the internet. While “flipping” MY T.V., the “yelling” is all I heard……….and because I’m not angry…. yelling means “DRAMA”….and a couple of years ago, while “flipping” I saw a man, later known as Beck crying about his past ADDICTION, and because I am an Addiction Specialist…. I paused to listen. Thinking I could get more insight from this man on “T.V.” in order to help those I work with..(always looking for persons and articles to motivate my patients) I turned to him the next day, and to my Surprise, I didn’t see a man in Recovery, I SAW and Heard an Angry man that had not Worked on any Issues in his own life….he was Masquerading as a person in Recovery….knowing that Recovery (true) isn’t Anger, but rational thinking….he served me no benefit or purpose.

Bush was a god his 8 years and have done nothing but slam Obama this administration. They also slam any democrat that they can get dirt on and ignore every stupid thing a Republican does. Posted by: Bob — Bob..you must not really be watching Fox but instead listing to the left wing talking points. Yes, Fox reports on the bad things Republicans do and they have not slammed any Dem they could get dirt on. Try actually watching it instead of listening to the Left’s talking points.

Why don’t you try to get some “addiction” tips from obama?

Ok Sara…so what “outragous” comments did Hannity say or yell? Did he not agree with something this Admin was doing? Did he not follow left wing talking points and blindly follow Obama?

Why don’t you try to get some “addiction” tips from obama?
Today, October 13, 2009, 1 minute ago | ceeLeelee
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Come on..be real.
Everyone knows that the best source of advice about “addiction” comes from the Republican Leader, Rush Limbaugh.

No, I went to school….that’s why I know when a person is TRULY in RECOVERY. By what they said out of their mouths, and the walk they walk. A man is what he Thinks.

So Ern…could you post a link to what Hannity said? I can give you the website Newsbusters.org that point out many of the MSM lies on stations like MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS…

Glenn Beck called the POTUS a “racist”…stop playing.

Were you this outraged when Olberman called HC a racist? You know, it was the night before the Wrong Reverend Wright story broke.
Naw, you probably didn’t say a word. And after the Wright story broke, Olberman didn’t have anything to say either.
Matter of fact, ole’ Keith took a few vacation days immediately after the world first saw what the Reverend was really up to.
Funny, that.

Fox doesn’t just ‘spin’. They flat out lie.
Posted by: ErnestNM | Oct 13, 2009 11:38:56 AM
Please tell us the lies they tell, or s…u… and while your at it, tell as the truth the Obama channels tell.

How ironic. Obama and the Democrats think Fox News is the mouthpiece for the GOP. What do you call CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNBC? Apparently one news source (Fox) with an ounce of integrity is one too many for these liberals as it is a threat to them? I’d say, given the other companies are all in the tank for POTUS, they are failing in their journalistic duties; daily.

At least we know one person who watches Olbermann.

Messiah, Emperor, O’Babble……still irrational and ignorant.

===The Prez is a addict? ===
Yeah.

Some people don’t have the ability to respond…….like seeking out facts and truths……they’re too busy living a lie, based on their little bitty emotions.

Let’s not go into the things Olberman said about Bush.
It might cause too much “drama” for you.
Today, October 13, 2009, 2 minutes ago | ceeLeelee
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Let’s do.
I would love to talk about Bush.
We can compare notes!

Fox News is the only media that truly has the backs of Americans.
The others have Obama’s back.
How bias is the MSM when they resort to fact checking a comedy show.
They have no shame.

Go to Fox News…or more correctly stated…Faux News!
Ah…so Ern we’re not getting down to it. Your comment above and the claim of no news outlet lying except for Fox. I’m now guessing you believe everything CNN, MSNBC and such tells you because they bow down to Obama and can’t understand why/how anyone could question them.

Here is what Hannity said…in its entirety…
“HANNITY:And he had a very different tone on Monday, but when he said tonight that insurance executives are bad people, it took me back because it was so harsh and I think unfair, but it’s part of their polling. Let’s roll this tape and I want to get your reaction to it.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: Without competition, the price of insurance goes up and quality goes down. And it makes it easier for insurance companies to treat their customers badly by cherry picking the healthiest individuals and trying to drop the sickest by overcharging small businesses who have no leverage, and by jacking up rates. Insurance executives don’t do this because they’re bad people, they do it because it’s profitable.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: What did you think?”
Just because they treat their customers badly doesn’t mean their bad people. Just like cops aren’t bad people when they treat someone badly.

Then Glenn Beck needs to Stop Perpetrating a Fraud as a “newsperson”, and start to tell his minows that he is a “jokster” who knows one ounce of a millionth of nothing. But why should he…..his bank account is Fat, made fat by your ignorance. I can’t comment any longer, it’s been a blast, I have to go to work to pay for your SSI checks that you’re receiving based on your mental health issues. I will have group process today, based on “IRRATIONAL THOUGHT PATTERNS AND BEHAVIORS”.

===Posted by: sara | Oct 13, 2009 12:17:23 PM===
Contrary to popular opinion, Beck’s audience knows what he is. It is you that needs to figure it out.

===I don’t believe anything anyone says until I cross-check with many sources.===
Why don’t you cross check whether or not the Obama people did a poll on insurance companies and found they polled badly? Kind of like the one on Rush. Of course Obama implied that insurance executives were bad people, just as he did when he delivered his police behaving badly speech during a forum on healthcare.

funny part is fox news destroys the other news channels even though fox news is only available on cable.

Hee Heeee
The president of the United States is afraid of and intimidated by Fox News.
That should make every American feel secure.
It’s no wonder Obama gets rolled by everyone—they know he will back down.
I bet Michelle has to rock him to sleep every night. Those mean bullies at Fox!!

Lol -
I think I speak for us all when I say I am glad you are receiving help for your “IRRATIONAL THOUGHT PATTERNS AND BEHAVIORS”.
God Bless You.

Why is the US Government using tax payer money to actively monitor and attack the media?
What ever happened to dissent in America?
Why is Obama afraid of people hearing the other side of issues and not just the Obama propaganda spewed by itself and its cohorts at CNN, ABC, NBC, the NY Times, the Washington Post and others?
When has there ever been a President who preached so many things such as transparency in his government, but actually does the opposite?

===”More than two years ago, then-Sen. Obama found himself pushing back against a false story given air time on Fox, that he was raised a Muslim and educated in a madrassa”..===
Well at least they didn’t fabricate documents to go along with their false story. Oh wait, he was raised a Muslim and educated in a madrassa, while living in Indonesia. He was quite proud of remembering the evening prayer when interviewed by the NYTs.

===Posted by: ErnestNM | Oct 13, 2009 12:29:31 PM===
I just did.

Here is what Hannity said…in its entirety…
“HANNITY:And he had a very different tone on Monday, but when he said tonight that insurance executives are bad people, it took me back because it was so harsh and I think unfair, but it’s part of their polling. Let’s roll this tape and I want to get your reaction to it.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: Without competition, the price of insurance goes up and quality goes down. And it makes it easier for insurance companies to treat their customers badly by cherry picking the healthiest individuals and trying to drop the sickest by overcharging small businesses who have no leverage, and by jacking up rates. Insurance executives don’t do this because they’re bad people, they do it because it’s profitable.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: What did you think?”
Just because they treat their customers badly doesn’t mean their bad people. Just like cops aren’t bad people when they treat someone badly.
Today, October 13, 2009, 4 minutes ago | Axey
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Well…how about that…Both of Axey’s ‘interpreted’ statements are true….some truth for once!
And so why didn’t Hannity just say that instead of lying like he did?

Why don’t you cross check whether or not the Obama people did a poll on insurance companies and found they polled badly? Kind of like the one on Rush. Of course Obama implied that insurance executives were bad people, just as he did when he delivered his police behaving badly speech during a forum on healthcare.
Today, October 13, 2009, 3 minutes ago | Axey
Why don’t you do it since it is fresh in your mind and you support the theme and apparently have the ‘facts’?
It’s what I did for my theme and ‘facts’.
Today, October 13, 2009, 4 minutes ago | ErnestNM
I just did.
Today, October 13, 2009, 1 minute ago | Axey
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Well, let’s see the evidence and your sources.

“WHY DO YOU THINK MORE AMERICANS HAVE SWITCHED TO FOX NEWS? ”
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Because the majority of Americans have a soap opera level of intelligence?

Why is it that when Bush was president, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN all talked about the soldiers killed in the wars but since Obama has been president you never hear this dicussed. The names of the killed used to be plastered across the screen. Now, nothing. Drink koolaid anyone…

Today, October 13, 2009, 19 minutes ago | ceeLeelee
…You can leave Bush out of the equation now. Obama has bested him on all fronts.
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I agree, Barack is much better than Bush.
For instance consider this:
When Bush took office he inherited President Clinton’s balanced budget and dollar index at 120.
8 years later Bush had more than several doubled the national debt and tanked the dollar all the way down to 72! The dollar is 76 now.
Not to mention spending $1 trillion on a ‘for no good reason war’!

I have much more of a problem with a foreign national (Rupert Murdoch) owning media outlets in this country, and using that power to influence our politics.
I truly don’t understand why more so-called “conservatives” are not upset about this foreign interference in American affairs.

That’s real good.
Now, what did Obama do with the Bush deficit?
Today, October 13, 2009, 2 minutes ago | ceeLeelee
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Yes…it gets better…just to help the next administration, Bush and Cheney (with the help of all the Republicans) set the stage, through de-regulation (actually to the point of almost no regulation), to crash the stock market…for the 2nd time!
Imagine that…2 stock market crashes in 1 administration…first time in history!
So, they knew Barack would be forced to either stimulate the economy massively to keep us from going into a ‘Great Depression’. Then they could try to tag him for deficit spending.
And, then they initiated the $1 billion ‘Wall Street Bailout’…so they wouldn’t be compared to President Hoover…you know, during the 1st ‘Great Depression’?
The problem is that everyone already knows that this is still Bush’s mess we are dealing with and will be for at least the next 10-20 years!

Isn’t this censure of a media outlet that serves a segment of the population that this administration has chosen to ignore or belittle?

Fox, a few blogs, and the Tea Parties
have saved America from tyranny.
Obama unchecked would be another Castro, Zalaya, Chavez.
Can’t you imagine Obama overriding the constituition so that he can be president for life?

ErnestNM —- So you give no blame at all to Franks, Pelosi or any Democrat for that matter for ANYTHING? What a bunch of BS you spew.

“”"Tell him to get to steppin’ with those jobs he promised -”"”"
Posted by: ceeLeelee
ABC has another article on how they are required to measure “saved jobs by the stimulus”. Example: If a construction worker is on a job funded by stimulus (eventhough he already worked for that company) it is counted as a saved job. It gets worse. If that worker buys a sandwich at a shop, that sandwich shop counts as a saved job too. That is only one example as to how they are manipulating numbers. Right here on ABC News has that article.

“ABC has another article on how they are required to measure “saved jobs by the stimulus”. Example: If a construction worker is on a job funded by stimulus (eventhough he already worked for that company) it is counted as a saved job. It gets worse. If that worker buys a sandwich at a shop, that sandwich shop counts as a saved job too. That is only one example as to how they are manipulating numbers. Right here on ABC News has that article.”
Thanks, ABC has another article on how they are required to measure “saved jobs by the stimulus”. Example: If a construction worker is on a job funded by stimulus (eventhough he already worked for that company) it is counted as a saved job. It gets worse. If that worker buys a sandwich at a shop, that sandwich shop counts as a saved job too. That is only one example as to how they are manipulating numbers. Right here on ABC News has that article.
Thanks, ABC has another article on how they are required to measure “saved jobs by the stimulus”. Example: If a construction worker is on a job funded by stimulus (eventhough he already worked for that company) it is counted as a saved job. It gets worse. If that worker buys a sandwich at a shop, that sandwich shop counts as a saved job too. That is only one example as to how they are manipulating numbers. Right here on ABC News has that article.
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Because it bears repeating.
Thanks, lfrichar. Is that article under the “Money” heading?
Obama Supporters, what say you??? (I guess they will bash the person who reported it. Counting down, 5…4…3…2…)

Faux news is good for entertainment purposes only. Don’t believe 80% of what is said. They are for the right wing loons and racists. Everyone likes to go to the zoo. I watch the National Geographic channel, the Animal channel and Faux news.

I don’t want or need for you to spread Bush’s manure, I didn’t vote for him and I didn’t agree with everything he did. But enough is enough.
Obama is in office now and screwing up dam near everything he touches. Maybe you should concentrate on him for a while rather than continously going back to the Bush presidency to find things to try and make Obama look good.
The American people are tired of it. Let Obama stand on his own two feet and stop blaming the past administration for what he is doing today.
We know it is bs and so does the foreign press. The only people who don’t “get it” are Obama and his supporters.
Maybe it is time all of you face the fact – that dog just won’t hunt anymore.

I don’t want or need for you to spread Bush’s manure, I didn’t vote for him and I didn’t agree with everything he did…
Today, October 13, 2009, 1 minute ago | ceeLeelee
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You know, it’s always good to find common ground.
I sympathize with your statement.

ErnestNM -
I agree. :)

Who else is catching the Obama lies — Cuts in Medicare, taxing those under $250k, “you can keep your current health plan”, illegals won’t be covered, “the most transparent administration in history.”, I’ll cut earmarks, I’ll close Gitmo, “I’ll eliminate capital gains taxes for small businesses.”, —- TOO MANY more to write — I gotta get to work!!!!!

Last month, Fox News Channel ran a full-page ad in three major newspapers claiming that ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and CNN missed the story of the TEA party protest in Washington. That was a blatant, boldfaced lie.
How do you Fox lovers excuse garbage like that?

Meanwhile, over at MSNBC, we have Chrissy Matthews fantasizing that
“and at some point somebody’s going to jam a CO2 pellet into his head and he’s going to explode like a giant blimp. That day may come. Not yet. But we’ll be there to watch.”
Maybe the president should ask Mr. Tingly to tone it down a notch or two.

===She recognizes that the cost of inaction is greater than party politics.“===
Yeah, and when history calls, she answered.

MSNBC has Rachel Maddow.
That cancels out either Hannity or Beck.
Posted by: Tom Kosinski
well, fyi….. Maddow can back up everything she reports with facts…
Hannity + Beck frequently state opinion as fact and outright lie, demonstrably false info.
to somehow equate Maddow and Beck shows you don’t listen and understand what is being said on either show

- keep their heads in the sand.
Posted by: Gunrunner
that is exactly where the minority cult of fringe, right wing republicans find themselves,

As the big 3 have faded and faved and faved away as our top newsgathers unfortunately, it becomes necessary that INFORMED CITIZENS seek out whatever sources are available to us. I do go to Fox News for news that I otherwise hear (or read, for that matter). I don’t know why the Former Big Three don’t go near certain stories with a ten foot pole…..to offset the extraneous stuff… GOP or not…that Fox offers. I don’t know who Ms. Dunn is…..nor do I know “where she’s coming from….”. In the event she doesn’t know, thic nation has a free press and most assuredly a long tradition of communication on radio and television I guess I am suggesting that to add to the Jobs Saved portion of the Economic Stimulus I keep hearing about but not finding much of an impact on unemployment, perhaps Ms. Dunn should find another GS8+ job in the Obama administration.

Fox has a large number of democrats that have “regular” speaking opportunities on Fox. I doubt you could find as many republicans on all the other networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, NY Post, NY Times, etc) combined. To me, that says it all. The media’s job is to keep the administration honest, not be a cheerleader. CNN had a group of kids singing Obama songs in a CNN studio and felt it necessary to fact check SNL (that says it all!). MSNBC has people that nearly wet themselves when Obama speaks and actually said they would do anything to get Obama elected. NBC’s Meet the Press has Rachel Maddow sitting in on some of their panels….wow. All of these networks blasted Bush at every opportunity and CBS went so far as using false documents in their attack.
“Most of you covered me, all of you voted for me”, Obama said at a media gala. Most administrations despise the media……what does it tell you when they like all media outlets but Fox. This is the most insecure administration ever. If they are unable to defend themselves with the bully pulpit, I guess the next best strategy is to attack anyone who suggests anything negative.

I don’t know why the Former Big Three don’t go near certain stories with a ten foot pole
Posted by: justj joey
even as pathetic as ‘the big 3′ are they still retain some self respect by passing on stories like:
- death panels
- FEMA camps
- Michelle Bachmann’s generic insanity
- rumor mongering and innuendo presented as fact
all of the above are examples of FOX ‘news’ stories presented as fact.

“Fox has a large number of democrats that have “regular” speaking opportunities on Fox.”
ROFLMAO!
Who?
“I doubt you could find as many republicans on all the other networks”
Pat Robertson is a regular on Rachel Maddow’s show and GOP congressman Joe Scarborough has his own show. That does not count the various GOP strategists who regularly comment on any of the opinion shows.
And that’s just MSNBC.

Beck’s reporting helped to get rid of Van Jones and he is not doing too bad with ACORN.
Posted by: ceeLeelee
As a reporter and commentator,
Maddow isn’t trying to ‘get rid’ of anybody like your boys are at FOX…… she reports and allows the viewer to listen and decide.
Recently Maddow has invited reps of the insurance industry as well as republicans like Joe Wilson on her show… some show, most don’t as they know she is well informed and will call them on their nonsense with facts…

That’s why Obama can’t let a speech go by without mentioning Palin’s death panels.
Posted by: Axey
well, when you are presented with a lying minority Republican party along with a nut job conservative media constantly distorting reality, sometimes a president has to call ‘em out and expose their collective stupidity !

===sometimes a president has to call ‘em out and expose their collective stupidity !===
I wonder why the big 3 didn’t cover the “collective stupidity” even with Obama calling ‘em out?

“i watch fox news because they cover stories that the other media just doesnt give thier attention to.
i’m not an idiot. i can decipher what’s opinion, news and etc. i get my news from multiple sources. this only discredits obama even more.”
These are among my favorite posts.
The liberal/democrat that LOVES fox news regurgitating Fox’s marketing slogan.

I wonder why the big 3 didn’t cover the “collective stupidity”
Posted by: Axey
an intrepid soul like yourself is no doubt assiduously writing letters and typing emails to the ‘big 3′ in order to ascertain the answer to your query.

===an intrepid soul like yourself is no doubt assiduously writing letters and typing emails to the ‘big 3′ in order to ascertain the answer to your query.===
Well, I really don’t see the need since all of the big 3 reported on the story at the time.

Oh Yeah: GW Bush took our national debt from approx $5.7 trillion to $10.7 trillion, thats what I say. Part of the current deficit in FY2010 is still part of Bush’s doing via the tax cuts implemented earlier this decade. You cannot separate Bush from our current deficit. Supply-side economics has not worked. For America to come out of this hole we must realize the entire country has not been willing to pay for what we spend. Like the old line from the song “I was stealing when I should have been buying”. This has been the routine since 1981, study the national debt charts.

And to quote Cheney: “Deficits don’t matter”.

A better headline would read” Paranoia sets in at the White House”

Google “Rupert Murdoch” and look at the videos that are listed. He freely admits to manipulating what news is reported and how its reported. Is that what you want? It’s up to you to not be swayed by the half-truths that Fox reports. Look at the Outfoxed video also “Fair and Balanced”? Are you kidding? You’re being brainwashed! Fight it!

And, I suppose the White House believes that the MSNBC folks are unbiased journalists who are simply reporting facts and not influenced by personal and politically-motivated opinions. There certainly isn’t any anti-Republican, anti-conservative bias on “The Ed Show” or “Countdown” or “The Rachel Maddow Show” or “Hardball.” I used to vote as a Democrat in almost every election, but I am conpletely disgusted with the smug and angry sarcasm on display during those four shows. I don’t like the same attitude when I see it on Fox either, but for the White House to criticize one over the other is unbelievably hypocritical.

Posted by: ceeLeelee
did Beck ever finally learn how to spell oligarchy ?

The risk is way too high for Obama to go on Fox.
The WH must not be confident that he can handle questions about Van Jones, Kevin Jennings, General McCrystal, backdoor phrma deals, or ACORN.
Tough questions no other media has the courage to ask.

the big 3 actually reported on the stories you claim they passed on.
Posted by: Axey
the ‘big 3′ discussed the controversy of whether the stories were fact or fiction and to a small extent, where the ie: ‘death panel’ stories started.
Fox presented the story as demonstrable fact and as eventual law of the land.

I can’t believe the current administration has nothing better to do than gripe about Fox News being “mean” to them! You have conflicting views in the news media – get over it!

Obama seems to be avoiding all questions lately.
Understandable since he says really dumb things when off the TOTUS:
Unaware that ACORN was getting A lot of money
Cops acted stupidly
Doctors are taking out tonsils and amputating legs
Comments about the Post Office
Obama can’t deal with tough questions,
he knows it and so does the WH.

“”If you place no blame on the economy, housing and jobs on the Dems also, then you are simply a partisan hack.”"
Hey, don’t blame the democrats! While Rome was burning and they controlled congress and the agenda, they were doing some very serious investigating…….of Roger Clemons. Oops,….

If I had my druthers? I would rather have someone who had no experience at all of the type Jones had.
Surely, Obama could have found someone better, no?

Sure, he could have found a yes man that went with the flow, but that’s probably not what he wanted – that’s what a good leader does…

Trying to control the media is something you hear from Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, North Korea, Russia, China, etc not the United States. Obama and Dems are having a tough time defending their policies so the problem must be the messenger (opposition). They are awfully lucky the rest of the media is sleeping.
Otherwise, someone would ask how the following is good for employment: higher debt, higher taxes (cigars, cigarettes, candy, soda, guns, gas, oil,…eventually income), higher energy costs, a poor energy plan, legislation being passed w/o being read, labor unions getting clout, more regulations, gov’t tearing up legal contracts, gov’t takeovers, czars overseeing everything to include pay, no small business incentives in stimulus, a healthcare bill democrats don’t want you to read, no economic plan, a left wing “nut” as speaker of the house, anti-business rhetoric from this administration, anti US rhetoric from the president. Gee, makes me want to run out and hire someone.

Yeah, he probably did. But Obama should have known that Jones would eventually be vetted in some manner.
The rest of the czars will soon have their 15 minutes of fame, good or bad. How will they stand up to public scrunity?
Let’s hope that they are “clean.”

When FOX was showing the undercover “ACORN” tapes, I kept watching ABC to find out what they would say about it…nothing.
When FOX was reporting all the strange people Obama was slipping in the backdoor and putting in positions of power, without being vetted, I turned to the ABC Nightly news so hear what Brian Ross and Jake Tapper would reveal about these “Marxists.”
Still nothing but Charlie Gibson talking about Michelle Obama’s fabulous gowns.

Obama is not being silly and paranoid–this is part of his insidious agenda to “change ” Americans into communists–one channel at a time…………you people cannot see what his agenda is–I have never heard of a POTUS targeting free speech and American opinion before…..

The leftist media don’t like any bias that’s not their own.

You can’t use factcheck.org as a source for anything, they were created by the Annenberg foundation monies – ran by Bill Ayers! yes, that same man. Dump that website.

WWW — Apples to oranges????

If America does not watch Fox News how come the are the most watched? —LOL!! Says who? Fox news? LOL!!! have you ever heard of the term ‘self serving’ before?

Wow, all this bickering at each other, and the politicans get off… Scott Free… Mainstream media is doing it’s “divide and conquer” tactic quite well. Want multiple sources, check online. Want “talking points” tune into ANY televison “Snooze” Program… Hmn, why do they call it “Program”, because they are programming your thoughts, opinions and views; and keep you from holding the responsible accountable! (Obama, Bush, Pelosi, Clinton, et. al) The mainstream media are there to control YOU through disinformation… The sooner you throw away your tv, and get MULTIPLE sources for your information, the sooner you will become informed, and NOT turn into a “Programmed automaton…” Have courage, leave the tv!!! And try another news source besides the corporate cable and broadcast cartel!!! We have over 700 channels, but only are supposed to get our information from brodcast/cable news and “dinosaur” newspapers… Come on!!! Join the 21st century… “You can NOT solve problems with the SAME thinking that CREATED them!!!”

Here’s an example of Fox New ignorance. Fox News watchers STILL, one year later, do not know that Fannie and Freddie did NOT make bad loans! Oh yes! One year later! AFter Business Week magazine, the Wallstreet Journal and The Economist had all come out with analysis of the meltdown, Fox News watchers STILL have not heard that Fannie and Freddie went down because they INVESTED in the derivatives that were secured with the bad loans that were made IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR from unregulated mortage brokers. Fannie and Freddie lending standards were TOO STRICT for those people to get loans. It was done in the PRIVATELY OWNED market. How many Fox news watchers know that???? NONE!! FOX NEVER REPORTED IT!!! Fox wanted the line to be “it’s those blacks fault! It’s the liberals fault! They made the government give loans to blacks who couldn’t afford it” only problem is it’s a 100% lie!!!!!! And Fox reported it and NEVER detracted it even after it was PROVEN to be false. THat is example ONE of what you get with FOX. Politics. Rupurt Murdock wants you to vote republican, period, and if he has to lie to you through the teeth of the people he pays to get you to do it, he will, and oh he has, over nad over and over and the Fox news watchers are TOO LAZY to find out the truth. THey simply embarress themselves at parties and family gatherings when, in front of huge crowds of people, someone corrects them and they stare with that ‘duh” look on their face as everyone else says “no, dude, he’s right. That myth was debunked like, Geez, a year ago. Where you been, dude??? what news do you listen to? what? You dont watch Fox do you????”

It’s astounding the White House cannot distinguish between news and opinion programming,” Clemente said. “It seems self-serving on their part.” *******************************
Well spoken, too bad it is a lye! It just has that twist labling Fox to be doing EXACTLY what MSM is and has been. Spoken like the majority party, if not on board, ship must sink. Stay tuned to Fox News to continue your reg. scheduled programming, before gov take over!

with the Republicans picking up Congressional seats —-LOL!! Ha ha ha ha!! Oh, becaues republicans have behaved so well lately???? got news for you, republicans are the party of no, the party of whining, the party of no new ideas, the party of obstructionists, the party who screwed up the economy that Obama has fixed, the party who can’t let a day go by without them saying or doing the latest despicable thing, the party of sour grapes constantly complaining, constantly wanting the country to fail so they can gain political advantage. WHO in the right mind would put republicans in congress so they can ruin everything ,get in teh way ,and actively work to kill the economy and anything else Obama is trying to fix???? are you high???? When Obama took office over 600,000 people were laid off per month. Last month it was 12,000. The stock market is up 40% since Obama took office, banks have started lending again, all economic outlook looks 100% better in just 8 months. A terrorist attack was thwarted and Iran has nuclear inspectors on the ground and Russia is more agreeable to us than they have been in a decade. Sorry. Why in the world would we ever want thing back to republicans crashing the stock market, bank failing economy nose diving and Iran blasting off long range missles and developing new nuclear facilities and Russia supporting them????? Seriously.

Obama took office over 600,000 people were laid off per month. Last month it was 12,000.
——FORBES MAGAZINE, BABY, LOOK IT UP!!!!! AGain, for a FOX news watcher, how would you EVER know this, eh?????? The source is FORBES, and it is the report of layoffs of the 500 biggest companies in the US, and it’s done every month. And oh yes, it is 100% accurate,

Ok, so remember we wree all talking about the ‘duh” embarressed look on the Fox news watchers face when they are corrected and embarressed in front of big crowds. yeah ,well ,that’s about to happen to you, pal, when he puts up links. It’s true, Dude. Heard it on NPR’s Marketplace and read it in WSJ.

Here’s the actual government numbers by the labor statistics. I will leave you with your lie, but thanks for trying.
October 4th, 2009 ·
On Friday, the U.S. Labor Department reported that U.S. Unemployment Rate rose to 9.8 percent as payrolls fell by 263,000 (higher than economists had projected of 180,000) resulting in the highest national unemployment rate since June 1983.

Oh Yeah,
What were you saying about that duh look? Read it and weep. Normal unemployment sits around 280,000 claims per week in a semi-healthy economy. According to our government, last months rate will be adjusted to somewhere near 568,000. Here’s the latest actual percentage figure.
October 4th, 2009 ·
On Friday, the U.S. Labor Department reported that U.S. Unemployment Rate rose to 9.8 percent as payrolls fell by 263,000 (higher than economists had projected of 180,000) resulting in the highest national unemployment rate since June 1983.

Ifrichar, seriously, LOOK AT MONTHLY LAYOFFS not TOTAL layoffs. READ A REAL NEWS SOURCE!!! PRoblem with you ‘analysis’ is that you’re looking at total number laid off as an economic indicator. NO ECONOMIST DOES THAT because what you are NOT seeing is that the number of laid off PER MONTH. IF over 600,000 were laid off LAST SEPTEMBER and 12,000 were laid off this month then that a HUGE difference between the reversal, In one scenario, we are headed INTO a recession ,the other we are coming OUT of a recession and if yuou add UP all the laid off over all the months together then you get a unemployment number, but that is NOT a good indicator of where we are headed. Use some COMMMON SENSE!!!! Is the car accelerating, or decelerating makes all the difference into whether or not it will hit the brick wall in front of you. Again, Fox news watcher, if you watched or listened to or read REAL NEWS YOU WOULD KNOW THIS ALREADY but no, once again, embarressed, or you should be, by your ignorance of things everyone already knows!!!! When ARE you people going to see the forest through the freakn trees and realize YOu NEED TO GROW A BRAIN AND LISTEN TO SOME REAL NEWS!!!!!!!

12,000 huh? 0—–WHY DO YOU THINK FORBES uses this as a determinant???? Every heard of statistical averaging????? over 600,000 laid off in ONE MONTH a,d you said it was baloney. Well, by all means ,let’s hear you take it back. And in case you dont know, which obviously you do not, this how economist gage the economy, by layoffs PER MONTH and by looking at the biggest employers of Americans and this is a statistical average and if it is taken over a wide enough sampling then it has proven to be statistically accurate representation of what is happening all over the country in all sectors of the economy. This is Forbes we’re talking about here! Fiscal conservative republican among other leading economists and this is how they gage the economy and gee, it has proven to be an accurate determinate for about a hundred years or more, but hey, you didn’t even know it existed about a minute ago because you FOX news watchers are SOOOOOO informed!!! You had no idea layoffs fell so much, did you? and now you argue with how FOrbes gages it! This is rich. It would be funny if it wasn’t true. again, there is a reason why you folks have a reputation for not being the sharpest tools in the shed. this is where you should say “uncle – you were right. YOu got me.” nad RETHINK why you are on here, being made such a fool of. there ARE sources of news out there, just listen to them and you need not be in this position again. TO start, stop watching and listening to entertainment for ‘news’. It’s not. And most likely, what you’re hearing is fiction and it’s going ot make a fool out of you again sometimes soon. Saddam didn’t have WMD, he wasn’t part of 9/11, Obama was never a muslim, he never wanted or talked about death panels, he never wanted kids to go to school through the summer, he doesn’t want to teach sex ed to kindergarteners, he’s not a terrorist, man, there are just too many ficiton to count. It’s pathetic, shameless and it’s ridiculous that while you hear all this dribble, what you do not hear is real economic news like, oh gee, last year there were 600,000 lay offs a month, this past month was 12,000. THAT is news and in real news sources, it was reported. and…these are even rpeublican news sources, mind you.

Oh yeah, what do you do? You’ve obviously intelligent but you’ve got the ‘dude’ thing going…..you remind me of some physicists I worked with. very eccentric. I’m off as well. “later dude”

Whoever said the US only lost 12000 jobs last month —oh Dear Lord, anohter uninformed Fox news watcher. Forbes magazine. THye do a monthly job tracker. September 2008 we lost over 600,000 jobs. last month – 12,000. yeah, per month. Look it up. Oh yeah, you’re a fox news watcher. You live in a fact-free zone. Have fun in your wittle bitty world. Good night.

So where were all of you 1st Ammendment supporters
when W. and Cheney were throwing anyone in jail for voicing their opinions against the former administration outside of the “Free Speech Zones”?
Lies. You can do better.

What our friend didn’t mention was in August there were 2,200+ layoffs. The number ticked up for September. And with that, I’m outta here.

Posted on bls.gov – Among the unemployed, the number of job losers and persons who completed
temporary jobs rose by 603,000 to 10.4 million in September. The number of
long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks and over) rose by 450,000
to 5.4 million. In September, 35.6 percent of unemployed persons were job-
less for 27 weeks or more. (See tables A-8 and A-9.)
From May
through September, job losses averaged 307,000 per month
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Ahem. This came off the GOVERNMENT website. Some people on this post are doing the community organizer thing and picking a target, focus on it, personalize it, and polarize it.

“There were only 12,000 layoffs at the 500 largest publicly trades companies. Our friend is using one number for Bush (the one that is announced by the labor department) and one number of for Obama (the 500 numbers). Cute trick.”
They need tricks. Shows their understanding of which companies (small business) employ the most people. And explains why there were no small business incentives in the stimulus package. I guess next we’ll see layoffs for the DOW 30 stocks. This administration also introduced us to the new “jobs saved” category. And 9.8% unemployment is much better than they anticipated (per Biden) despite claiming the rate wouldn’t go higher than 8%. Gotta love their logic.

What a bunch of cry babies. Fox news is just that NEWS but not controlled by you know who.

Fox is a wing of the Republican party and the Main Stream Media is a wing of the Democratic Party. MSNBC, my God, man, is the Obama network.

We certainly wouldn’t want to address the other 50% of the country, that would be uh democratic. Clearly we are in a socialist country now and we just don’t have to listen to those other jerks! Way to go President Obama tell those idiots to get lost!

Since when does the President of the United States attack a news channel?
Posted by: Michelle in San Francisco
‘attack’? curious choice of words, the ‘right’ is all about freedom of speech correct?, except when they are the ones being criticized…
since when does a ‘news station’ offer opinion as fact and sponsor political rallys.
you might have had a point to make if Fox had not gone off the deep end with the ‘birthers’, the ‘deathers’, FEMA camps and the rest of the usual Fox innuendo and lies.
It’s one thing to get a story wrong, that will happen, surprising when it does with all the resources available to the various media, it’s an indication of a growing laziness on the medias part.. it’s another thing when a supposed ‘news’ network like Fox just makes it up and presents it as news.
The ‘right’ has a history of doing all this inane ‘stuff’, Clinton murdering Vince Foster is just one of many that come to mind.
In the ’50′s, president Eisenhower was called and accused by the Birchers of being a communist. Can you imagine, the supreme allied commander for WW2 called a communist by his enemies inside the US.
( kind of brings to mind (R) Rep. Michelle Bachmann)
You can see from these examples that the paranoid ‘right’ has a long history of not only being wrong, but also blatantly making up nonsense about their perceived domestic enemies, and presenting it as truth.

First rule of a communist radical. Crush the opposition, and control the flow of information to the lowly peasant folks. Gee……the real problem Obama and the DNC has with Limbaugh, Beck, O’Reilly, Hannity, Savage, Humphrey, and Fox News is that they keep telling the TRUTH, and asking QUESTIONS in search of the truth. Also, they also have Obama and the DNC party on audio and video tapes spouting lies. So……..what is really going on. Well, we have an attempt by a certain power group in the DNC trying to censor TRUTH in an attempt to seize power in the country, and to do so they need to take away individual freedoms, and to control all the media. Take a look at how it happened in NAZI Germany, Old Soviet Union, Maoist China, Cambodia, North Korea, Sadam Iraq, Current Iran, Castro’s Cuba, and Hugo Chavez and Venezula. Quite simply Fox News is reporting TRUTHFULLY, and the hate and lies are coming from Obama and his far left (communist/socialist) supporters. I am not name calling, I mearly point out that social justice and redistribution of wealth were central themes for all the examples past socialist/communist governments that I mentioned. So have a foot in the truth. This country is in SERIOUS trouble, and the economic policies of the Obama administration are failing fast. God bless America. TRUTH, Justice, and the American way!!!!!

What Soros wants obama delivers: It has taken Soros much longer than he perhaps anticipated to bring down the U.S. dollar. By 2003, Soros was already predicting the downfall of the dollar. In a CNBC interview, amid a slump in the dollar’s value against the euro, Soros added fuel to that fire by stating that he was already selling dollars. His statement, in turn, caused a further decline in the international worth of the dollar. Now, George Soros is nearly universally regaled as a wizard at currency speculation and hedge-fund management, skills which one of his sons has said have far more to do with a certain pain he gets in his back telling him when to buy and sell, than with any sage economic formula. But since 1992, when he earned the title of the man who broke the Bank of England by becoming a major player in the downfall of that nation’s currency, Soros has been more of a prophet reaping the returns on his self-fulfilled prophecies than he has even been a speculator.
But this much is certain. Soros has long thought America far too powerful, and has seen the dollar’s supremacy as every bit as dangerous to his internationalist schemes as our military strength. So far, President Barack Obama has done nothing whatsoever which would seem at odds with those scheming Soros doctrines.

Poor babies in the White House, being swamped with all this “mean” press coverage. Time for the NY Times to reel off a few more miles of adoring column space.

The more the Obama admirers put down fox the more people watch!! This has been great for Fox these past two years! I won’t even listen to any other news, and Glenn Beck (in his own way) is really showing this administration what for………Van Jones is gone isn’t he?

This whole thing snacks of Rahm Emanual and Axelrod. Is everyone in the Liberal press so blinded by their spin and attack methods that the press can’t tell a complete story… What is it about Emanual that keeps the press away from the truth.. The man is a sleez and everyone can see it,, everyone except the liberal press… It is wonder that the press has such a low opinion rating..

===Anybody ever consider that FauxNews is so darned popular because far right-wingers sit on their butts and watch more television that more educated people?===
No.

……did you ever think we would reach the day when folks would send in their comments about the White House damning…excluding…call it what you will, a television news network because it is “one sided”….unfair…or, hell, maybe un-American. Might I suggest that the Obama administration start doing some work…other than the simple PR of the Presidency, and WE will decide who we read and we watch, and we listen to? Stay out of OUR f r e e
domains!!!

Is Obama just worried about answering questions from O’Reilly? I would think such a “skilled speaker” would be able to trash O’Reilly. Sooner or later Obama will have to go on Fox or he will look like a complete idiot. The most televised President won’t go on one of the most popular shows. As good as Obama thinks his policies are, I would expect he could defend them against any media hack.

===Anybody ever consider that FauxNews is so darned popular because far right-wingers sit on their butts and watch more television that more educated people?===
There is something to that.
FoxNews has the highest percentage of heavy watchers (8 hours or more) of any of the 24/7 news networks.
Anyone watching that much right wing garbage will eventually believe it.

WWW wrote: Last month, Fox News Channel ran full-page ads in three major newspapers claiming that ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and CNN missed the story of the TEA party protest in Washington. That was a blatant, boldface lie.
I ask again, how do you Fox lovers excuse conduct like this?”
Because Fox news showed some morals pointing out FACTS—-the other sites should be better knows as propaganda cites that have consistently ignored to flat out lie about the GROWING NUMBER oF PEOPLE FED UP WITH THE CORRUPT GOVERNMENT showing up to protest at the teaparty rallies. Fox reported and advertised the facts—they are willing to show the number of people showing up speaking out the government while the other stations tried so hard to sweep it under the carpet. Bias in media, lies in media in masse…..coming for the numberous Obama proganda cites. To bad so many don’t realize only a handful of individuals own all the media sources and that the value/money for media doesn’t come from adverterising persay anymore (hence the propaganda cites continued lying for Obama which is forcing viewers away) but in the MEDIA’S ABILITY to MANIPULATE THE PUBLIC INTO BELEIVING LIES THAT BOTH OBAMA AND HIS PROPAGANDA CITES PRINT/SPEAK.

So Obama will talk to Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Taliban … but not to Fox News. He will talk to Castro, Ahmadinejad, and Chavez … but will not do an interview with Brit Hume? Perhaps Obama will only speak to those with whom he feels most comfortable. Hmmmm.