Baby Joins House Health Care Debate

how dare he presume to speak for an infant?! he was certainly free to say that his aide didn’t want the bill because he was afraid that his child would pay for it. pretending that he was aware of the conscious thoughts of a baby makes him look like an idiot. what state is he from?

John Shadegg’s top two industry donors are “health professionals” and “insurance” who gave him about 50,000 in the 2009-2010 cycle (see opensecrets). No word on how much of that he’s giving to Maddie.

Disgusting and inapropriate no matter which side you’re on. And can you imagine someone in congress actually changing their minds based on someone flashing a baby at them? You read the bill and then do whats right for the country.

hey how about the dem who had his two children up there? where is your outrage for that. You think two eight yr. olds can read this bill and support it? Get a clue whats good for the goose and all that. Oh wait, he is a dem so it’s okay but not for a repub. Like I said before, get a clue.

I read one article where those who “Can’t afford” insurance will be heavily subsidized (my tax dollars at work). Those who have employer provided (yet pay dearly for it) insurance will get no subsidies (and we’ll be paying for others to get it).
SO – the family with 70K in income, will be paying something like 15K. OK – well my hubby and I make about 70K a year together so after taxes we get to keep about 40K. Now – we’re going to pay 15K with no help plus higher taxes to pay for others….So I imagine at least half our net income will be ours. How wonderful to it will be to work full time, and part time jobs and still get to keep maybe 30K of our salary. 3 people on that…woot woot, lets plan a cruise and overseas vacations. Eventually lying back and taking minimum wage jobs will be more lucrative. Nice Gov’t that will allow that to happen.

“Doctors pay dearly for malpractice — there are not too many doctors who try to make mistakes — but it happens.”
And instead of trying to give them a free pass we should be looking at ways to enforce proper medical standards. Like medical boards that actually police doctors with multiple “bad outcomes” instead of protecting them or ignoring them.
Like doctors that decide to have a couple of drinks even though they are on-call, because they don’t think anyone will need them overnight. When you say “it happens” are you including those cases in your assessment? ..or just heroic TV doctors?
Doctors are humans and sometimes instead of making small boo-boo’s they really screw up royally.
You guys claim to be on the side of “the people” so let the people hear the evidence and make a decision – not the politicians.

“I wonder who they really care ? American people or health insurance companies ?”
All they really care about is saying the worst thing possible about the people that kicked their tails in the last election. To them, nothing is reasonable unless they get the credit, nothing is worth doing that might help the country when the other party is in power and nothing is too silly or slanderous to say as long as it’s directed at their favorite targets.

It took politicans DECADES to ‘craft’ laws that has affected Americans adversely…the president has to unravel this decades old mess……Now this is why our country is on the path of collapse…..I remember the “trickled-down” economics of the 1980′s….I remember my neighborhood being cared for and proud and “loyal” workers to their companies…..until all were “dragged” from under them while the Republicans threw Middle Class Americans under the bus. Yes, I remember! I remember the Deregulation of Large companies and the financial institutions of this country…..leading to lower wages and hanging families out to dry with their “outsourcing” to third world countries for bigger profits….I remember when Americans signed Contracts for credit cards, and the Contracts were binding…..I remember when families were torn apart by “latchkey” kids, because their parents had to work 2 low-wage jobs just to make ends meet…..I remember when companies Took care of those that took care of them! Yes TX_MBell…I’m old enough to Remember what AMERICAN WAS ONCE ABOUT……IT’S PEOPLE!!!!

What isn’t? But what I really love was that on the program today, Donna Brazile was seated at the the point (moderate) position opposite Mr. Stephanopoulos . Finally, finally finally, Mr. Stephanopoulos has admitted that in comparison with his own view of world politics, Donna Brazile looks surprisingly moderate.

It won’t be paid for by future generations, as this is the last generation with an opportunity to do anything about the national debt. The debt will double to $24 trillion by 2019, and Obamacare will do its bit to get us there.
The CBO warns the current level of debt to be unsustainable, so what is unsustainable times two? Or, Ux2= Socialism!

As far as DEBT, if you rolled back the Reagan, GWB tax cuts to the wealthy (and Medicare Part D)the DEBT would be less than half what it is, reducing current expenses (debt repayment and medicare expenses) at least 350 billion $ this year alone.

One of the biggest conservative arguments against universal health care is that government can’t do it better than the private sector. OK … hands up … all those who think the private sector has been doing a good job on holding health care costs down so far. Hmm. Not many hands.
I spent 8 years as a claims analyst for Blue Cross Blue Shield and know that the private sector has perverted health care. This doesn’t mean I support the current health care proposal, however. But, I do support universal health care.
Whenever this debate comes up, conservatives always point fingers at perceived failures of universal health care in either Canada or the U.K. But they’ll never discuss Australia – which holds health care costs down to 1% of its GDP. They don’t have a perfect system. But private sector health plans don’t have anything to crow about either.

Telling us what a helpless baby is thinking about politics and the deficit is probably as good a strategy as the vicious far-right types can come up with. (She looks like a very sweet child, so I expect she’ll grow up to be a Liberal.)

Someone should bring in a little poor baby and say, “this baby needs health care right now, but because her parent’s come from a poor family that had to go into debt 60k each to obtain bachelors degrees so that they could work administrative jobs they were laid off from, she won’t be getting an H1N1 shot. Please wish her luck this winter. Her name is Sarah, and I really don’t know what she wants in terms of this health care bill because she’s too young to speak.”

I’m independent but can one of you Dems answer me this? What ever happened to “ASK NOT what your country can do for you BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO for your country?
I think the socialist democrats won’t be happy until we are a WELFARE NATION where everyone is jacked into the Matrix nourishing themselves on the teet of the US government.
The bigger the government the smaller our freedoms and liberty.
We need health care reform but it seems to me that this isn’t actually about health care reform anymore…it’s about “our side” winning…and, in that case, we the people lose.

fromca, you are a fool to think gov will play on a level playing field. First, they are putting rules in place that will hurt the private companies like forcing them to take on a sick insured. How long would Vegas stay in biz if they were forced to let gamblers see the card before the bet was placed. Can you buy a totalled car and force your auto insurance pay to fix it. Most importantly, not only do the feds not have to profit, they can lose money every year and force taxpers to pay for it. Ever hear of Amtrack, post office, medicare, medicaid, social security ? The gov plan also penalizes companies by forcing them to pay taxes into gov healthcare as well as forcing medical companies to pay billions into obama care. How long would Ford be in business if Ford had to cover GM’s losses every year. Pelosi is a liar, if not, can any of her defenders explain her lie of Obscene profits, you losers have no clue what heatlh insurance companies profit margins are. When Bush was in office it was obscene oil profits, about nine percent. Now it’s healthcare company profits she is lying about.

Wait a second—The Democrats brought children in also and cried that they will die unless they get National Health Care, which is way more devious since the Democrats are millionaires and those kids will never have to pay for anything. So why does ABC News only mention the Republicans???

That REPUBLICAN is a LOSER!

Could the American voter please remove their head from their partisan ### and vote all of these losers out of office? Please? Please? Please?

ObWan222, if a doctor drinks alcohol on call they should have their medical license taken away.
Medical boards do investigate cases and each quarter my state’s medical board review is full of doctors with substance abuse, quality of care, and other problems who are stripped of their licenses. You would have to look far and wide to find other groups who police their industry as rigorously as medical boards. Any patient can complain and it will be investigated. Here in North Carolina, many of the investigators are former State FBI investigators.
Every day I work I see many expensive tests performed as part of defensive medicine. Unfortunately, I frequently have to recommend them myself. All a trial lawyer has to show is that a “preponderance of the evidence” (NOT beyond a reasonable doubt”) shows that the doc “fell below the standard of care.” Well, guess what – 50% of the time a doc’s care is below the average. By definition – the average is 50%. So trial lawyers have a bonanza. Did you know that studies have shown that 75% of all breast cancers can in retrospect be identified on the prior year’s mammograms, in their subtle early form? Can you say, “Delayed diagnosis?” Then you have semi-retired docs happy to testify that the breast cancer should have been seen, for only $500/hour plus expenses for their expert testimony.
Here in my city we diagnose about 10 new breast cancers a week – that’s a potential new lawsuit every day of the week. That is the industry that we are trying to shine a light on. Trial lawyers gave nearly 10% of the amount of money that ALL INDUSTRIES in health care gave on all issue combined from 2003-2007 (source: maplight.org). They are in control of this issue. That is why the new House Health Care “reform” Bill denies federal monies to states that cap malpractice awards. The democrats are poisoning any attempt at real reform.

Oops that number is 1 in 6

Shame on Rep. Shadegg for trying to pull a stunt like that. The child is barely out of the womb and she’s being used as a tool in one of the most grotesque displays of political and moral incompetence I’ve ever heard of in Congress (yes that includes the Bush years).
Kids, babies no less, should never have to think about “patient choice” and “mom’s premiums.