Election 2009: The View from the White House

You spend more time on the White House talking points about the NY-23 than you do on the much bigger state-wide elections for VA and NJ!
Why do you pretend to be a journalist, and not a shill and amplifier for the Democratic viewpoint?
This analysis of the returns is the ultimate in spin, supportive of one party, and consistent with ABC’s actions for the past several years.

Obama is way too busy to pay attention to what is happening in the country.
Guess the people in NY, VA, NJ are insignificant to him.
He’s got White House events to plan, salsa dancing, golf, basketball, speeches to practice, fundraisers to attend.
And he’s probably waiting for another visit from Andy Stern or Soros.
Thank you Virginia, New york, New Jersey.
We the people are paying attention to you!!!

I take the idea that “this is not a referndum on Obama” to mean that they still like Obama “as a person” … but don’t like the direction he’s moving the country in.
I would like Obama just fine if he was not in politics. Just stop trying to move 6% of the US economy to the public sector.
And then there’s “Cap & Tax”.

Obama is not paying attention to important elections? The president of all the people doesn’t care who becomes governor in VA and NJ?
What a joke Obama is.
And I guess he’s not losing sleep over Fox News either.
Obama probably cried himself to sleep last night.

Hoffman is a winner to me.

“The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 28% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -13..”

=== Anybody with common sense knows that Scozzafava would’ve won the race had the radicals not pushed her out. ===
While I would have preferred a Hoffman win, I will take the Owens’ win over Scozzafava any day of the week and twice on Sunday. When the republican is more liberal than the democrat, you have a problem. Pelosi will now have to contend with another blue dog. Which is turning out to be a lot more fun watching than I thought it would be.

===asked last night if President Obama was watching the election returns, a White House spokesman said he was not.===
He didn’t know about Jeremiah Wright, the tea parties and now the elections. What a president.

The sound of whining you hear is from ABC, CBS, NBC and Obama…”WHY DON”T THEY LIKE ME”!!!!

No one forced Dede out of the race. She quit when it became clear she couldn’t win.

This definitely sends a clear message to obama and congress.

The NJ loss meant something. Democrats need to quit pandering to Republicans who will never agree to anything, regardless of compromises or concessions, and get the work done. Democrats don’t have a supermajority in Congress (calling Lieberman a Democrat at this point is absurd) and they won’t get one in 2010. They need to do what all the Republican presidents have done for years – use reconciliation to shut down filibustering and get the work done you were put in office to do.

“Elections? What elections?”
“New Jersey? Don’t know anything about it.”
This is the biggest group of clowns in the history of the country. Certainly in my lifetime.
Even more evasion and obfuscation than the Clinton regime.

Obama campianed for his guys and lost. And now its not a surprise? who paid for Obama to campain for these guys when he flew airforce one there??? What an expensive not a surprise. Oh well its not his money.

Obama is Peter Sellers in:
Chance the Gardner
That’s “CHANCE”, not Change.
Speaks gibberish and people think what they heard but didn’t.
Phony & not that bright.

No acorn = No votes
No Independents = No votes
No votes = No win

Catman -
Read the tea leafs:
The plan is to eliminate the private sector jobs, not create them.
Govenment jobs
Union Jobs
Thats the plan.
81 Billion to the unions at GM and Chrysler – No plans to pay it back, and they don’t want it paid back, but expanded on.
Remember this as your foremost though when you vote in 2010.

Govenment jobs
Union Jobs
Thats the plan.
Posted by: LKR |
The goal is a permanent Democrat majority. Government employees, union workers and “undocumented” immigrants are the base of today’s Democrat party.

So Obama spends tons of money flying AF-1 to NJ to campaign and then has no interest in the turnout? Yeah, right. And if this were to be true what does that say to the youth who he is trying to get interested in voting….that it doesn’t matter unless you are running???? What an idiot we have as President. We got change all right, but not for the better!

It looks like Alyson & Ryan are one and the same paid troll.
The spin is hilarious. It’s like reading a transcipt from one of Robert Gibbs bumbling blame games with the press core.
Keep up the entertainment Alyson/Ryan!!!

So the White House wasn’t paying attention to the elections.
This is why they have lost so much credibility.
And he didn’t bow either right?

I would rather lose an election with a candidate that espouses solid conservative values than win with a “Moderate Republican” (RINO) candidate who is essentially no different than the democratic candidate. A win with the moderate would only serve to water down the effectiveness of the conservative movement (eg. Olympia Snowe) and frustrate the conservative base of the party.

Alyson & Tierra – If we really want to do what’s right for this great nation we will have to transcend the small-minded Democrat vs. Republican debate. Neither party has the best interest of the nation in mind, but rather the best interest of their party. They both select candidates based on their “electability”, translated as their ability to raise funds for themselves and the party.
Once elected, most of our representatives go to DC, drink the party cool-aid and fall into line with party leadership. What I would give to see our congressional representatives engaging in principal centered voting.
Even Obama, the great uniter, who promised bi-partisanism and called for an end to party politics has never tried to include anyone with a differing view. However he has spent a relatively significant amount of time and money flying around to stump for Democrats so he can avoid the need for bi-partisan activities. Just another broken promise in the long chain of broken promises.

If the White House did not give a flip about the Elections,why did they send Obama to N.J. 5 and Va 3 times for Obama to promote Corzine and Deeds? Are the Tax Payers going to get their money back for these failed attempts Of Obama to campaign for the losers?

“It appears that it was written off to ensure future union support and pay back for the 2008 elections. Do some simple math, 81 Billion divided by the uaw and related unions = how much a vote?”
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The auto bailouts were originally put in place by Bush – a Republican. Are you saying the Republicans are buying votes?

Now what would 1/2 of that bailout [40B] amount, if given to small business, have done to create free enterprise jobs?
LKR | Nov 4, 2009 2:13:03 PM
Well, the stimulus gave $51 billion in tax cuts to private free enterprise businesses. How did that do to create jobs?

Millie – You’re giving them too much credit. To suggest that the Obamasites (a peculiar type of parasite that feeds on positive media attention) are getting out of touch implies that they were once in touch. They weren’t. Their whole focus is on saving face and trying to maintain a winning image because in their warped world “winning image” = “actual winning”. The last presidential election grounded their beliefs as we elected our first “American Idol-President”. Instead of having a number at the bottom of the screen where people could call and vote for their favorite, we had pollsters who called and solicited votes and then announced the winner.
Simply put he is still campaigning and hasn’t a clue about leadership and responsibility. We really can’t blame him since he’s never had to lead anything or take responsibility for anything in his life. In his world every decision hinges on popularity rather than what is right for the country because his ultimate goal is to maximize political contributions and garner more votes regardless of the harm it does to our country. It has been said that good leaders have to make the right decision even when its not popular. That’s why he cannot decide on whether to send additional troops to Afghanistan. Oh, wait, we’re told that he and his inner circle of czars & political advisors know better than our Generals on the ground about when we REALLY need additional support. Their contention is that he has plenty of time to make a decision since an immediate decision would have the troops arriving in the middle of the Afghan winter when fighting is at its lowest. This is absurd and suggest that our Generals don’t have any logistical capacity. Why this statement went uncontested by the MSM is beyond me. I have to assume that our Generals requested support now knowing full well when the troops would actually get there and since the request was “urgent” they most likely needed these troops to arrive in mid winter. Who knows, maybe we have plans to for a surprise winter attack, or maybe we need these troops to survive the winter. In any case, spokesmouth Fibbs expects us to believe that Axelrod and others know better than our best military minds when we all know that its just political positioning aimed at maximizing the Democrats popularity with their liberal base.

“It appears that it was written off to ensure future union support and pay back for the 2008 elections. Do some simple math, 81 Billion divided by the uaw and related unions = how much a vote?”
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The auto bailouts were originally put in place by Bush – a Republican. Are you saying the Republicans are buying votes?

51 Billion given to small business, out of the 785 Billion total, has created a small, small bounce – If you listen to the WH mouth piece, but we will never know if diverting 40 B out of the GM bail out would have improved the situation. What we do know is that it was shoe horned into the union coffers, as a power base instrument.
Now, look this up — Bush proposed a bailout, he didn’t pass one. It was writter and designed for union power base support, by polosi, not to allow GM to return to profitability, and passed without debate by the present amdinistration.
Ever heard of Tax investment credits?
Wrong way to spend the tax money, if you want to restrict free enterprise to make a profit and re invest in the future

Now, look this up — Bush proposed a bailout, he didn’t pass one.
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“So it was last Thursday night that Mr. Gettelfinger (United Auto Workers President) rejected the deal offered by Senate Republicans for interim bailout money to keep General Motors and Chrysler alive for a few more months.
“The UAW chief was betting that the Bush administration would blink, and that the union would get a better deal from the politicians than it would get from the marketplace or from a bankruptcy judge. It’s a ploy we all learned in childhood. When dad won’t give you what you want, turn to mom.
“Mr. Gettelfinger was right, of course. By the next day the Bush team was rapidly reversing course and declaring its willingness to use TARP money — from the $700 billion designated to bail out financial firms — to keep the Detroit companies going without the concessions sought by the Senate GOP. The irony is that the George W. Bush is the same president that the UAW has vilified for the past eight years. Let’s hope Mr. Gettelfinger at least sends him a Christmas card this year.”

the corporate people won out in the auto bailout and China, union workers gave up a lot of what they worked years for. Betrayed in my opinion.I am sick of hearing about the bad unions,they earned their money and benefits after fighting many years for them while the ceos get the big bonuses.UNIONS gave people good paying jobs with healthcare,the very things that we are supposedly fighting for now at the expense of the country. So tell me what is so bad about unions? A middle class that earned living wages and were consumers that weren’t rich or on welfare. Why don’t people talk about the loss of those things. teachers are going to lose too with the support for charter schools.
Obama,Gibbs and the elite ,sarcastic jerks are dividing this country and just like these elections they won’t admit it even when it is in their faces.

Alyson – pointing out broken promises is not spin, its fact and I believe me, I haven’t stopped counting because he hasn’t stopped breaking promises. The list is rather long and undenible. Here’s a very small sample and I dare you to show how this is spin or how he’s going to somehow retroactively keep these promises:
1. Sunlight before Signing – on June 22, 2007, he announced his “Sunlight Before Signing” promise stating that “When there is a bill that ends up on my desk as the president, you the public will have five days to look online and find out what’s in it before I sign it,”. Fact – Since elected he has ushered enormous bills through without even giving congress, much lessthe public, a chance to read them.
2. No Jobs for Lobbyists – He stated “I am in this race to tell the corporate lobbyists that their days of setting the agenda in Washington are over. I have done more than any other candidate in this race to take on lobbyists — and won. They have not funded my campaign, they will not run my White House, and they will not drown out the voices of the American people when I am president.” Fact – He broke this one before being elected by including in his fundraising campaign some 38 members of law firms who were known lobbyists. Since being elected he has broken this promise at least two dozen times by appointing lobbyists to positions in his administration.
3. Transparency – On the day he took office he said “My Administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government. We will work together to ensure the public trust and establish a system of transparency, public participation, and collaboration. Openness will strengthen our democracy and promote efficiency and effectiveness in Government.
Government should be transparent. Transparency promotes accountability and provides information for citizens about what their Government is doing…” Since then he’s appointed dozens of administration heads (Czars), circumventing the entire review process and trampling the constitution. He’s publicly chastised news groups and individuals who disagree with him. To this day he continues to spend millions of tax dollars to fight lawsuits seeking to verify his credentials for the office when he could simply produce a birth-certificate and end the debate once and for all. He’s also sealed all his college records.
4. Earmark Reform – He promised “We need earmark reform. And when I’m president, I will go line by line to make sure that we are not spending money unwisely.” However, in February he signed the pork laden $787 Billion stimulus bill, happily declaring before a joint session of Congress that “Now, I’m proud that we passed a recovery plan free of earmarks.” His comment was met with a roar of laughter from floor. The $410 Billion Ominbus has over 9000 earmarks totaling nearly $8 billion.
There are literally hundreds of broken promises, some larger than others. Need I go on “spinning” the truth. I invite you to debunk any of these.

tierra | Nov 4, 2009 2:59:03 PM
Again, it was clearly Bush who originally put in place the auto bailouts out of TARP funds. So it was Bush who was trying to buy union votes.
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Tierra – Enough with the half-truths about the auto bail out.
Fact: The initial LOANS to the automakers under Bush’s watch required them to give the government warrants for stock equal to 20% of the loan and included a stipulation that they would produce a plan to achieve financial viability by March 31 or be forced into a restructuring plan by the car czar.
Fact: It was Obama and HIS car czar that oversaw the restructring plan that padded union coffers, ignored the rule of law, gave the unions huge ownership stakes in the companies and gave the automakers more money instead of forcing them to follow the extensive restructuring process that was in the plan signed by Bush.
I’m not a Bush supporter by any measure. Bush is a neocon and just another example of why we dont want liberal policies and I certainly dont support the “loans” he made to the automakers. It was a foolish move that cost the taxpayers $14 billion and led to the bailouts that cost us even more. NO ONE is too big to fail and giving money to a failing entity before they change any of the things that lead them to failure is simply foolish and irresponsible. Giving the union (ie. the group responsible for the collapse of the company) a hefty ownership share via the bankruptcy proceedings is beyond foolish and stands out as obvious union payola. There is no other example of such a settlement in the history of bankruptcy law.
The Democrat/Liberal congress is the only common denominator in both of these foolish acts and it is they that I hold primarily responsible for producing the irresponsible and corrupt legislation that Obama happily signed into law.
Enjoy, while you can, these fleeting days of liberal folly and financial recklessness because the sleeping giant has awakened and the day of accountability is coming. If you have an ounce of mental capacity you could easily determine that the course we are on is not sustainable. We cannot survive the massive debt that the democrats and Obama are accruing and I fail to see how you and your ilk can support it. I can only assume that you are in the 45-50% of Americans who pay no taxes and hope to gain from the swelling tide of government programs at the expense of those who are being forced to pay the tab. You must know that the overtaxed productive people will either get this movement reversed and continue producing or cease to remain in an environment where people are penalized for being productive. Either way the ride is coming to an end and you’ll have to wallow in the mediocrity you’ve created.

Let’s put this another way -
Our elected presidents are duty bound to do and act in the best intrestes of the American people. No exceptions, so don’t start the bush did it to routine. Thats ALL of the people, not just the ones that suit his personal goals and objectives.
The stimulas, bailout and the bucket of wet cement, called the health care reform, are lopsided and tilted to a long term eradication of the free enterprise system.
Remember obamas original stated intent ” I want to spread the resources
of those who accululated theirs, regardless how they obtaind them” Forget hard work & devotation. It’s pay back time for three centuries of
the worlds sins aginst humanity.
He’s not a leader, he’s a crusader, caught up in a mission of a one world socity – starting with America.
What is being examined here are his tools of CHANGE

The top 1% of Americans own as much as the combined wealth of the bottom 90% of the population.

Bob Starling – I stand corrected on the hundreds of broken promises statement. To date, he’s made 514 promises and broken, stalled or compromised on about 35 and kept 52, leaving over 400 promises in the works or not yet evaluated. In any case the magnitude of the promises he’s broken so far indicate a lack of character and a propensity to lie to get what he wants. I dont have predetermined views and wish there was no need to ridicule the president. Do you think its ok to make grand promises while campaigning and then ignore them once elected? If so your expectations are of the lowest sort and your motives questionable.

So, I called my broker and said we either have to invest in tinfoil or meds for delusionals. He said tinfoil as those who need the meds refuse to take them. But the tinfoil is going to be in heavy demand for awhile.
Alyson | Nov 4, 2009 6:10:46 PM
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There are delusions and they rest squarely with those who choose to believe that the course we’re on is somehow sustainable. Rather than making personal attacks you will garner more credibility if you stick to addressing the issues.
To help lead you I’ll take the first step. An example that comes to mind is the health care reform strategy of the libs. It certainly defies logic to believe that the government can simultaneously expand insured health care to all (or nearly all) of the population while also improving quality and availability, all at a magically lower cost. Of course they can’t. But this simple logic has done nothing to stop Obama, Reid, Pelosi, and company from employing whatever lies, smoke, and mirrors they can muster to advance a nationalized health care program that purports to do just that.
I hope this example will help you understand how to challenge an ideaology without all the drama and emotion.
Now, try your hand at providing an example of just one government program that has been efficient, operated within budget, reduced corruption, or led to increased quality of service. Then bear in mind that they are claiming to deliver all these via the health care reform program. While I understand that there is always a first time for everything, I seriously doubt this will be it.

The top 1% of Americans own as much as the combined wealth of the bottom 90% of the population.
bobstarling | Nov 4, 2009 5:45:20 PM
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And what’s the problem with that? They earned it by being productive and in most cases provided a multitude with the opportunity to become wealthy and enjoy an increased standard of living along the way that has made the USA the great nation that it is today. Without these people we would be like all the other countries where the productive are not allowed to enjoy the fruits of their success and only the elite ruling class enjoys a lifestyle equal to ours. Maybe you should spend some time in one of those countries so you can appreciate that even the lowest 10% of wage earners have it better than most of the world. You and your ilk somehow believe that wealth equals corruption. Most businessmen in this country, aside from a select group of wall street thugs, are honest people. However, most of those in government are corrupt and dishonest, and you expect people to believe that we should look to them for our salvation. Get a grip.

The top 1% of Americans own as much as the combined wealth of the bottom 90% of the population.
bobstarling | Nov 4, 2009 5:45:20 PM
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And what’s the problem with that?
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That would be for each person to decide.
You seem overly defensive – like rich people are perfect angels and everybody in government is corrupt.
I hardly think so.

That would be for each person to decide.
You seem overly defensive – like rich people are perfect angels and everybody in government is corrupt.
I hardly think so.
tierra | Nov 4, 2009 7:23:09 PM
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This is where you are wrong. In America its not for each person to decide if being wealthy is wrong. Only those who become wealthy by nefarious means are wrong and the law addresses this situation. The thought that being wealthy is inherently bad is the fodder or the Fascist who wishes to pit the lower class against the upper class while they rule over it all.

Here is a list of one day’s worth of Obama campaign promises, ONE day’s worth, mind you.
1.) So when I’m President, I’ll shut down the corporate loopholes and tax havens,
1a.) and I’ll use the money to help pay for a middle-class tax cut that will provide $1,000 of relief to 95% of workers and their families.
2.) We’ll also eliminate income taxes for every retiree making less than $50,000 per year, because every senior deserves to live out their life in dignity and respect.
3.) if you’re a family making less than $250,000, my plan will not raise your taxes – not your income taxes, not your payroll taxes, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.
4.) I’ll also help families who are struggling under the crushing burden of health care costs by passing a plan that brings the typical family’s premiums down by $2500
4a.) and guarantees coverage to everyone who wants it.
5.) I’ll establish a Credit Card Bill of Rights that will ban unilateral changes to credit card agreements;
5a.) ban rate hikes on debt people already had;
5b.) and ban interest charges on late fees.
6.) I’ll also reform our bankruptcy laws to make sure that if you can demonstrate that you went bankrupt because of medical expenses, you can relieve that debt and get back on your feet.
7.) To make saving easier, we’ll automatically enroll every worker in a workplace pension plan that stays with you from job to job.
8.) And for working families who earn under $75,000, we will start that nest egg by matching 50 percent of the first $1,000 you save
8a.) and depositing it directly into their account.
9.) To make a college education affordable for every American family, we’ll provide $4,000 of tuition if students will provide community or national service when they graduate.
10.) To make it easier for families to own their own home and stay in that home, we’ll crack down on predatory lenders,
11.) help more Americans refinance their mortgages,
12.) and provide ten million homeowners a mortgage tax credit that will take ten percent off their interest rate.
13.) To help those mothers and fathers who are juggling work and family, I’ll expand the Child Care Tax Credit,
14.) extend the Family Medical Leave Act,
15.) and make sure that every worker in America has access to seven days of paid sick leave.
16.) I’ll make sure that women get equal pay for an equal day’s work.
17.) And to help those families who own small businesses that are the engine of prosperity in America, I will eliminate all capital gains taxes on start-ups and small businesses to encourage more innovation and job creation.
18.) all my new spending proposals would be more than paid for by spending reductions.
19.) I have a plan to responsibly end the war in Iraq
20.) and reduce overpayments for private plans in Medicare
21.) I would also curb subsidies to banks making student loans,
22.) return earmarks to their 2001 levels
23.) and reform no-bid contracts.
24.) I’ll make the sun rise in the west and set in the east.
Well, yes, I made up #24, but ALL the rest are the campaign promises Obama made in a single day. This list does not include all the campaign promises Obama made on other days, to other audiences.

“I’m specifically concerned about the quality of care they offer. It pales in comparison to that offered in the US. By quality I mean the overall level of technical services offered as well as wait times.”
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Nonsense. The level of care in Canada is excellent and EVERYBODY is covered.
The United States system is so disorganized it doesn’t even publish wait times – and MILLIONS are not covered.

“Only those who become wealthy by nefarious means are wrong and the law addresses this situation.”
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You’re naive.