By Gorman Gorman

Nov 3, 2009 9:25pm

Election Night, 2009

The White House insists that these are all local races and are not in any way a referendum on the president. Republicans – perhaps smelling some victories tonight – say this the first opportunity voters have had to register their feelings about President Obama and the Democrat Congress.

- jpt

User Comments

Thank you Virginia.
This is just the beginning.
We will take our country back.

Posted by: millie | November 3, 2009, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

Obama isn’t watching the election coverage.
Just like he doesn’t lose any sleep over Fox News?
Right…

Posted by: hank | November 3, 2009, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

A sweep.
Get used to it Democrats.
Your guy tried to take America to a place it will never go.
We aren’t Venezuela.

Posted by: kyle | November 3, 2009, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

Palin/McDonald 2012

Posted by: ollie | November 3, 2009, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

And yet, Jake, your own (the media’s) exit polls clearly showed the voters stating that this was NOT a referendum on Obama. And Obama’s approval ratings in both Virgina and NJ are as high as they were when he was elected last year. (57% in NJ and 51% in VA). If voters were voting against Obama, wouldn’t his approval in those states be lower than they were last year when he won the states?
Deeds ran a horrible campaign (and actually said he’d “opt out” of Obama’s health care reform) and Corzine has had approval ratings in the 30s since before Obama was even elected.
Believe it or not, there ARE local concerns in these elections, that are not tied to Obama.

Posted by: Ron | November 3, 2009, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

“Palin/McDonald 2012″
Who the heck is “McDonald”?
And, believe me, Democrats would LOVE if Republicans nominated Sarah Palin in 2012. :-)

Posted by: Ron | November 3, 2009, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

“And, believe me, Democrats would LOVE if Republicans nominated Sarah Palin in 2012. :-)”
Republicans don’t need to. She’ll do massive damage to liberals behind the scenes. YES SHE CAN!

Posted by: Mary | November 3, 2009, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

57% in New Jersey think Obama is fantastic and want bigger government.
What!!!
They deserve higher taxes, corruption and unemployment.
Are they still hoping some Obama Money will fall from the sky?

Posted by: luke | November 3, 2009, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

Obama is unaware of the election results?
He was unaware of the tea parties too.

Posted by: stella | November 3, 2009, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

This is a shout-out to my fellow Virginian Democrats (and there are plenty of us!) who voted with Independants, Republicans and Conservatives to help put Bob McDonnell and company over the top to win the race for Virginia Governor.
Although I am sure Mr. Deeds is a very nice man, he will NOT be going to Washington – or to Richmond.
2010 is just around the corner. We can’t wait to finish the job. :D
Change.
It’s a beautiful thing.

Posted by: ceeLeelee | November 3, 2009, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

“And yet, Jake, your own (the media’s) exit polls clearly showed the voters stating that this was NOT a referendum on Obama.”
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Jake sometimes doesn’t care about facts – its the sensationalism that attracts him. A sad state of affairs when so much of the news media is attracted to the sensational.

Posted by: tierra | November 3, 2009, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

The Democratic party is reeling tonight. Shellshocked Dems simply do not know what has hit them, as moderates, independents and conservatives gave them a stunning, humiliating shellacking.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 3, 2009, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

New Jersey has elected Chris Christie as its next Governor.
Way to Go, New Jersey!

Posted by: ceeLeelee | November 3, 2009, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

Listen!
The “Fat Man” is singing in New Jersey!
Tra la la lah, la la!
ROFLMAO! :D

Posted by: ceeLeelee | November 3, 2009, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

WASHINGTON TOAST:::::::::DEFEATED
OBAMA:::::::::::::::::::::DEFEATED
NBC:::::::::::::::::::::::DEFEATED
CHRIS MATTHEWS:::::::::::::DEFEATED
KEITH OBERDUMB:::::::::::::DEFEATED
RACHEL MADCOW::::::::::::::DEFEATED
ABC LIBERALS:::::::::::::::DEFEATED
CBS LIBERALS:::::::::::::::DEFEATED
Media in desperate spin mode for Democrats

Posted by: mickey maoist | November 3, 2009, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

Sorry Cousin Pookie
You lost

Posted by: hank | November 3, 2009, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

For anyone in this administration to say these election results are in no way a referendum on the president are either lying or a fool. If only a handful of people changed from voting Dem to Rep then it is at least in a small way a referendum. Remember…every vote counts.

Posted by: J Doubleu | November 3, 2009, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm

New Jersey and Virginia
You Rock!!!
You give us hope–the beginning of America’s comeback.

Posted by: millie | November 3, 2009, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

Hoffman’s gaining in New York 23. Get your brooms out, it may be a sweep!

Posted by: Randy the A/C Guy | November 3, 2009, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

A lot of us changed from Dem to Repub or Independent, thanks to Obama.
I may never vote Democratic again.

Posted by: ceeLeelee | November 3, 2009, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

I respect Deeds because he refused to call himself an Obama Democrat.
Because of that Obama threw him under the bus.
But in the end Obama got tossed under the bus by Virginia and New Jersey!!!!

Posted by: kyle | November 3, 2009, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

Independents you did it!!
You put Obama in the White House
and you can take him out.
It starts now.

Posted by: luke | November 3, 2009, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

“A lot of us changed from Dem to Repub or Independent, thanks to Obama…”
A real live PUMA! I thought they only existed in the wild. ;-P

Posted by: Ron | November 3, 2009, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

Lol.
There are lots of PUMAs around. Obama’s first mistake was disrespecting them.
His second mistake was disrespecting anyone else that disagreed with him.
That Karma thing…

Posted by: ceeLeelee | November 3, 2009, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

“A sad state of affairs when so much of the news media is attracted to the sensational.”
You mean, like they were during Obama’s obscene $750 million campaign when they promoted an inexperienced empty suit who spewed empty rhetoric and meaningless slogans at every opportunity while reporters were digging through opponents’ garbage for dirt? You might have a point there.

Posted by: Stacey | November 3, 2009, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

“There are lots of PUMAs around. Obama’s first mistake was disrespecting them.”
How did Obama “disrespect” Hillary voters? By having the gall to actually win? How dare he! And you do know what “PUMA” stands for, right? Who is it who’s showing disrespect?

Posted by: Ron | November 3, 2009, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

How’s the tea party candidate doing in NY-23, a seat that’s been in Republican hands since the Civil War?
What does that portend for the future of the Palin-Limbaugh-Beck Republican party?
Sure, it’s easy to win against Corzine (approval in the 30s) and Deeds (horrendous faux-Dem candidate) but why can’t a Palin-Limbaugh-Beck-endorsed, “tea party” Republican retain a seat that’s been Republican for 140 years?

Posted by: Ron | November 3, 2009, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

More Hope and Change please!
I STRONGLY urge Obama, Pelosi, and Reid to keep ramming leftist legislation we don’t want and can’t afford down our throats while unemployment continues to rise and our economy deteriorates. Let’s see how well that works out for the Democratic Party in 2010.

Posted by: Jenn | November 3, 2009, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

Ron,
I think you really know the answers to your questions.
Let’s not forget how his supporters trashed Hillary.
As for that Karma thing? This time we are the ones giving the finger…

Posted by: ceeLeelee | November 3, 2009, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

‘Let’s not forget how his supporters trashed Hillary.”
Oh, please. That’s what happens in elections. One side wins, one side loses and both sides scream at each other a lot. Barack and Hillary are over it. She’s Secretary of State, for pete’s sake. Move on.

Posted by: Ron | November 3, 2009, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

I have no doubt that if the results even barely tipped the other way, there would have been non-stop gloating from every Democratic Mouthpiece amplified across every media, and an insistence on the need to press ahead immediately with more squandering of this nation’s vigor.
I’m heartened by these results, a resounding shout of “It’s the (corrupt, arrogant, coercive) Spending, Stupid!”

Posted by: Carol | November 3, 2009, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

uh Ron, talk about disrespect, don’t diss Doug Hoffman by calling him a Republican….

Posted by: Randy the A/C Guy | November 3, 2009, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

“How’s the tea party candidate doing in NY-23, a seat that’s been in Republican hands since the Civil War?”
Way to look for a silver lining, Ron, in that cloud of Democrat doom coming from NJ and Virginia.
However, since no Republican is running in NY-23 (Scozzafava having withdrawn), it doesn’t matter who wins: the seat will no longer be “in Republican hands” anyway. If that floats your boat, have at it.

Posted by: Cloud Over New Jersey | November 3, 2009, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

Ron,
As you can see, I, as well as a lot of other people, have moved on.
As for people screaming at each other during elections – I’ve been through a few. Hillary as well as Palin were both attacked on a very personal level, the likes of which I have never seen before. No matter how you put it, it was wrong and indefensible.
I guess if I excuse what happened then, then I will excuse it the next time it happens to someone else. All in the name of party loyalty.
Nope, I don’t think so.

Posted by: ceeLeelee | November 3, 2009, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

“However, since no Republican is running in NY-23…”
Oh, give me a break. The entire GOP establishment threw its weight behind Hoffman. He and his “tea party” Republicanism were seen as the future of the party. In addition to the RNC and Republicans across the country, he was championed by the entire right-wing media establishment (Limbaugh, Beck, talk radio) and the GOP’s very own 2008 VP candidate Sarah Palin.
He was running, with all that GOP wind at his back, for a seat that’s been Republican for 140 years. Spin it any way you like, but this bodes real trouble for the GOP as they move ahead to nomination fights in 2010 and 2012. The conservative “tea party” movement thinks they are the future of the party and will fight it out with what’s left of the “moderate” (aka “RINO”) wing of the GOP. One side will win or there will be a fractious party split.
Gloat all you want tonight about Corzine and Deeds. But you should be very concerned also about what’s happening in NY-23.

Posted by: Ron | November 3, 2009, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

“As you can see, I, as well as a lot of other people, have moved on.”
Um, that’s not what I see AT ALL.

Posted by: Ron | November 3, 2009, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

“Let’s not forget how his supporters trashed Hillary.”
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How did his supporters trash Hillary?
Anything even close to the trashy, juvenile name calling and smear attacks against the President on here?
Just read some of the comments on this blog – you’ll see the type of character and class the right wingers have.
And it goes on and on every day. Pathetic.

Posted by: tierra | November 3, 2009, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

“Gloat all you want tonight about Corzine and Deeds…”
Oh, you bet we will. We’re talking napalm in the morning here, and ever moderate, conservative and independent in America knows it. And so does every Blue-dog Democrat.
Strutting ’round in triumph, strutting ’round with joy…
Ask yourself: where is the intensity? (Hint: Rasmussen knows.)

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 3, 2009, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

Tiera -
Go play in your sandbox.
We Won.
Now excuse me while I go off to sing with the “Fat Man” in New Jersey.
Tra la la lah la la!

Posted by: ceeLeelee | November 3, 2009, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

Tierra you are swinging wild at the world again. America won tonight. Communism lost. Plain and simple.
Tough it out comrade.
By the way, tonight doesn’t prove that Independents have swung their vote, it only proves what happens in an election when ACORN is no longer committing fraud.

Posted by: Tom | November 3, 2009, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

Posted by: ceeLeelee | Nov 3, 2009 11:17:11 PM
A perfect demonstration of the character, class and maturity of the right wing.

Posted by: tierra | November 3, 2009, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

Tierra you are swinging wild at the world again. America won tonight. Communism lost. Plain and simple.
Tough it out comrade.
By the way, tonight doesn’t prove that Independents have swung their vote, it only proves what happens in an election when ACORN is no longer committing fraud.
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Another demonstration of right wing character, class and maturity.

Posted by: tierra | November 3, 2009, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

Anybody know who won in the New York 23 race?

Posted by: tierra | November 3, 2009, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

“it only proves what happens in an election when ACORN is no longer committing fraud”
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What people have been convicted of fraud? Could you please provide a source and a date . .. thanks.

Posted by: tierra | November 3, 2009, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Look, it’s not a problem: Obama inherited Corzine and Deeds from Bush, right?

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 3, 2009, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Oh, for pete’s sake. “Communism”? “ACORN”?
You guys are becoming parodies of yourselves.
And as for people thinking VA and NJ are referendums on Obama? Obama is polling in both states at about the same level as in Nov. 2008, when he won them both. Neither McDonnell nor Christie ran against Obama in their elections. McDonnell didn’t even mention Obama (because Obama is popular in Virginia) and Christie even featured Obama IN HIS OWN ADS. This was about Corzine and Deeds and it was about local issues. And it was pretty standard for off-year elections (the out-party generally wins).
The big story is NY-23 and the purge of moderate Republicans, particularly in the northeast, by the tea-party brigade. Interesting to see how that story develops over the next few years…

Posted by: Ron | November 3, 2009, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

Tiera -
Why, thank you, Boo!
Let me say in return that you are the epitome of an average bo-, ah, um, that is, the average Obama supporter.
:D

Posted by: ceeLeelee | November 3, 2009, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

Owens was ahead at 11 PM by four pts with about 70% in. OTHER THAN THAT – THE SLEEPING GIANT HAS AWAKENED WITH A ROAR – THANKS OBAMA!!!!

Posted by: Manitu | November 3, 2009, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Strut, strut, strut…laugh, laugh, laugh.
Come on, goofballs–tell us some more about what a wonderful night it was for you. Please, please, tell us more.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 4, 2009, 12:10 am 12:10 am

Tierra are you that out of touch? How tiresome this is . . . but since you asked:
Arkansas 1998: ACORN affiliated project vote falsified 400 voter registration cards
Colorado 2004: ACORN employee admits to forging signatures and registering 3 friends to vote 40 times
2005: 2 ACORN employees are convicted of perjury for submitting false voter registrations
Do you want me to go on?

Posted by: Tom | November 4, 2009, 12:15 am 12:15 am

Strut, strut, strut…laugh, laugh, laugh.
Come on, goofballs–tell us some more about what a wonderful night it was for you. Please, please, tell us more.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | Nov 4, 2009 12:10:53 AM
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Facist usually you’re on here with your found-out inaccurate ‘facts’, lies and distortions.

Posted by: tierra | November 4, 2009, 12:17 am 12:17 am

Obama’s assured his place in history: the fastest flash-in-the-pan of all time. He’s going to be remembered, all right. LOL. Him and his gang of commie pigs.

Posted by: tanarg | November 4, 2009, 12:19 am 12:19 am

Do you want me to go on?
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Yes, Tom. You seem like a legitimate guy. Please give the source and date of the information you post.

Posted by: tierra | November 4, 2009, 12:20 am 12:20 am

Hmmm, looks like the regular “party faithful” are not putting in an appearance on the blogs tonight.
It’s really not very sporting of them to not offer congratulations on our win.
:D :D :D :D :D

Posted by: ceeLeelee | November 4, 2009, 12:21 am 12:21 am

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More juvenile name calling . . . yawn.

Posted by: tierra | November 4, 2009, 12:25 am 12:25 am

ALBANY, N.Y. — Democrat Bill Owens has captured the special election for a New York congressional seat that became a fight over the identity of the Republican Party.
Owens defeated Conservative Doug Hoffman.
Hoffman has conceded the race.
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Gee, and that was a seat previously held by the Republicans for a long time . ..

Posted by: tierra | November 4, 2009, 12:28 am 12:28 am

A huge tide tide turned tonight. A Sea Change has occurred. All of us know it. The White House knows it. Everyone knows it.
The most fun part of all will be watching the strained efforts of the losers at denying what they know right down to the very tips of their toes: Hope and Change is now a joke, and serious people will gradually take charge again.
Remember this day, Goofballs: the day before yesterday was your peak, and things will be increasingly bad for you from now on. But cheer up: although it’s bad for you, it’s good for America.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 4, 2009, 12:51 am 12:51 am

“A huge tide tide turned tonight. A Sea Change has occurred.”
____________________________________
You’ve got it wrong again Facsist. Not unusual.
ALBANY, N.Y. — Democrat Bill Owens has captured the special election for a New York congressional seat that became a fight over the identity of the Republican Party.
Owens defeated Conservative Doug Hoffman.
Hoffman has conceded the race.
_________________________________-
Looks like another Democratic congressperson.

Posted by: tierra | November 4, 2009, 1:00 am 1:00 am

The 23rd District is dying,with little if any job growth and no future. Outside of Alex. Bay in the summer the only industry is Ft. Drum. The District went heavily for Obama; it has sunk into a dependency mode that suits Democrat candidates.Still,it will be interesting to see the results in 2010 if it is a two-candidate race.

Posted by: Nephron | November 4, 2009, 1:02 am 1:02 am

Tiera -
You can have Owens. We don’t care.
We got New Jersey (the blue state turned red) and Virginia.
We Won.

Posted by: ceeLeelee | November 4, 2009, 1:02 am 1:02 am

“We got New Jersey (the blue state turned red) and Virginia…”
Goody for you. What are you going to do with them? :-) Those are state governerships. As I don’t live in either Virginia or New Jersey, I don’t have a heck of a lot of stake in how they run those states. But NY-23… that affects me. The Democrats now have one more member in the House of Representatives than they had yesterday.
Keep your eye on the ball, friend. :-)

Posted by: Ron | November 4, 2009, 1:16 am 1:16 am

‘We Won.”
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Not really. Governors races are particular and out of the mainstream.
The New York congressional seat is more of a federal mandate and a mini-election on the Obama/Democratic administration.
And it’s a seat the Republicans held for a long time – AND LOST TONIGHT.
Democrats won it and its a strong vote in favor of the current administration.

Posted by: tierra | November 4, 2009, 1:20 am 1:20 am

Ron -
I am keeping my eye on the ball.
However, Obama and his supporters need to realize that there IS change in the air and it may not be beneficial to them. People are very angry and frustrated and Obama should not pretend that the anger and frustration does not exist.
What happened tonight should serve as his wake-up call that all in not well with the electorate.
I have to call it a night. You have a good one. :)

Posted by: ceeLeelee | November 4, 2009, 1:24 am 1:24 am

Wow. This congessional seat the Democrats won tonight had been in Republican hands since the Civil War!
What an embarrassing defeat for the Republicans and a stunning victory for the national Democrats and Obama.
So much for Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and their fellow Republicans. Rejected.

Posted by: tierra | November 4, 2009, 2:09 am 2:09 am

Tierra, I just did. You can contact the State Attorneys of the States I mentioned with the dates I provided. The balls in your court now.
You know, instead of always putting yourself out on the line for your favorite party it wouldn’t hurt every now and then to be critical of your beloved Party, Obama, and its affiliates. Who knows it might even help rebuild it . . .

Posted by: Tom | November 4, 2009, 2:18 am 2:18 am

“Tierra, I just did. You can contact the State Attorneys of the States I mentioned with the dates I provided. The balls in your court now.”
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It was a simple request Tom. The source and the date for the information you posted.
Sorry this is so difficult for you. Makes me think you are ashamed of the source, or you don’t have one.
What is the source and the date for the information you posted Tom?

Posted by: tierra | November 4, 2009, 2:35 am 2:35 am

By the way Tom . . .
Did you notice the congressional seat the Democrats won tonight had been in Republican hands since the Civil War!
What an embarrassing defeat for the Republicans and a stunning victory for the Democrats and Obama.
So much for Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and their fellow Republicans. Rejected.
The Governors races are particular with local issues and regionally oriented.
The New York congressional seat is more of a federal mandate and a mini-election on the Obama/Democratic administration.
And it’s a seat the Republicans held for a long time – AND LOST TONIGHT.
Democrats won it and its a strong vote in favor of the current administration.

Posted by: tierra | November 4, 2009, 2:50 am 2:50 am

“However, Obama and his supporters need to realize that there IS change in the air and it may not be beneficial to them. People are very angry and frustrated and Obama should not pretend that the anger and frustration does not exist.
What happened tonight should serve as his wake-up call that all in not well with the electorate.”
-ceeLeelee
How is the Democrats winning the only national race a “wake-up call” for Obama? A wake-up call of what? That we’re in good enough shape to expand our majority in Congress even further?
Last time I checked, neither the NJ nor VA Governor gets a vote in Congress, so what does the outcome of those races have to do with Obama? To claim that the GOP losing a seat it’s held for over a century isn’t about Obama, but two Governors races are is beyond the bounds of reality. This is the type of GOP insanity that will guarantee continued Democratic victories.

Posted by: Chris | November 4, 2009, 3:07 am 3:07 am

What matters here is that the Obama Brand took a hit here. He showed up and campaigned for both Democratic Candidates and it wasn’t enough to close the deal.
There are two brands at stake here: (1) you have the Campaigning Obama and (2) the Governing Obama.
The ether of the Campaigning Obama is wearing off because, well, he has actually done some things since taking office. The “done some stuff” is tough to get past even for a Brand that worked without that previously. That’s amazing part: he had never actually done anything before running for President – a degree from Harvard, some community service, some connections on the South Side of Chicago and got elected to the Senate. He sold the American public anyway. He developed a hell of a Brand and he sold it lock, stock and barrel.
Problem is this Governing part is a tad more complicated and just a little more controversial. Turns out that some of the people in the flock are actually listening to the details. More importantly, the biggest part of the flock are concerned with the actual results. If the results basically s*uck then they don’t care if the guy you are endorsing was Born in the Manger you’re patting him on the back doesn’t mean squat.
No question the Campaigning Obama had some real traction but the Governing Obama is floundering. (Of course, not only are his policies unpopular there is an undercurrent out there that has suggested he might have BS’d us a time or two. In a word, if the Snake Oil ain’t working at some point they stop buying it.)
It is pushing it to say this is some kind of referendum for the WH and the Obama Brand. These were local races that had all kinds of issues at stake that were core to the outcome. Best case it was an indicator that the Campaigning Obama is not enough there has to be some actual results that people can get their arms around to make it work.)
To keep people buying the product “the snake oil has to actually work.”

Posted by: Lone Star Rules | November 4, 2009, 8:00 am 8:00 am

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