Ft. Hood: Gen. Casey Doesn’t Rule Out Terrorism

General Casey,
Why do you come on TV in a fighting man’s uniform? How can anyone trust you when you obviously are a deceptive person? Put on your dress uniform and act your grade!

Terrorism? Of COURSE IT IS/Was!! He wasn’t yelling, “Sale at the PX”! There has been no mention of authorities checking out his Mosque?Imam. The connection HAS to be THERE!

Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terorists.
The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organizations.
Hasan’s eyes “lit up” when he mentioned his deep respect for al-Awlaki’s teachings, according to a fellow Muslim officer at the Fort Hood base in Texas, the scene of Thursday’s horrific shooting spree.
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What is this? So far they have come up empty on finding any connection to this guy and other terrorist’s. Fanning the flames.

This makes me SICK!. He killed alot of people and because he has a Muslim sounding last name now all the armchair patriots jump on it. I think what this is simply is a MURDERING nut case. NOTHING more… What is next someone here is going to say he is Osama’s long lost cousin. I think WE IN THIS COUNTRY are far too much jumping on the terrorism excuse to justify our actions. The man went nuts, and trajically killed alot of young men and women. Why are we not calling the Seattle killing, or the Camp Leujene murder terrorism…. This is sick.

The potential symbolism of this of this horror might give us pause. The stress on the military from the longest sustained combat operation in American history has been distilled into a single American who embodies the many faces of this nation and its “war on terror”. Let us be cautious in the lessons we take from this sadness. There is more harm that could unfold.

The general needs to retire and start a hobby writing poems about dandelions and butterflies.

Terrorism: The calculated use of unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence to inculcate fear; intended to coerce or to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological.
1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.
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Sounds like terrorism to me, the guy didn’t go off the deep end strictly for personal reasons but political ones. After all if he just wanted to avoid going to Afghanistan he could have just injured himself, problem solved, he wouldn’t have been sent. If it was against any person in particular he would have injured that person, he didn’t, it was random, it was violence against a US policy and the icons (soldiers) that represent that policy.

Posted by: Heather | Nov 8, 2009 11:41:27 AM
We have a volunteer Army, no one was forcing him to do anything that he didn’t willfully sign up for and take an oath to do. Do you think a soldier gets to pick and choose who he will fight and who he won’t? His moral conflict was no greater than any other soldiers moral conflict and if their moral conflicts are so great that they can’t uphold their oath the army is not the place they go.

I think he had this planned for quite some time. I would call it terriorism. When he called out his Allahu Akbar. Our country needs to rethink who is allowed in our country. He will rot in hell for what he has done, and he deserves everything he gets. He should have no mercy. God Bless our United States of America.

Hello. Lets stop being untruthful and tell the truth for once even though it hurts. It was Terroism period. Bottomline.

Why is General Casey’s flag patch have the stars on the left side?

Hmmm…
This looks like another case where the U.S. Army needs to re-evaluate the deployment policies.
Yes, when you join you become a G.I. – “government issue,” and for the most part, you must do what your superiors order you to do, without question.
However, we are on the brink of 2010, and in the midst of another unpopular military action. Many soldiers are not happy with their duty assignments.
In particular, if an officer – especially a medical officer – expresses any type of dissatisfaction with assigned duties, the Army can simply reassign the officer, to something like supply, laundry, or motor pool, until the enlistment or service period ends, or the processing of a discharge; whichever comes soonest.
Instead, there are “good ol’ boys” in the Army who believe in the dictum – “Ya’ll do as I say, ya hear?” Or, “You WILL do such and such,” etc. Whether their leadership is good or bad, they relish controlling others.
Most people who have a lick of sense would express some concern for their safety and the safety of others, by asking questions of superiors who might fall into the impaired reasoning category.
Just because someone is a sergeant or an officer, does not mean that individual knows the safest and best course of action.
As a veteran of four years of U.S. military service, I know that far too many sergeants, and some officers, get waaay tooo wrapped up with and carried away by their authority and control over others.
One does not need to serve in actual combat to develop PTSD, (Posttraumatic Stress Disorder). There are dozens of things that could cause stress or trauma to you and not to me, and vice versa.
Major Hasan could easily develop transference and PTSD or Depression, simply by listening about the traumatic and stressful experiences of his patients.
The split second that others heard Major Hasan expressing dissatisfaction with his duties, the Army should have reassigned him to different work, while, they arranged for his discharge. Problem solved.
However, someone in the Army, who more than likely still is receiving a paycheck, either shrugged off the possibility of trouble, or made the decision not to do anything.
Worse yet, according to published reports, the Army knew SIX MONTHS AGO, that Maj. Hasan was not a happy camper.
Now, because of the Army’s intractability, and goof ball “good ol’ boy thinking,” many people are dead and wounded, and, more than likely, the Army will end up having to arrange for an execution, all because of people with higher rank not using their heads.
This is a very sorry mess.
Locally, it was a similar situation with Lt. Watada at Fort Lewis, where higher rank dullard thinking ended up costing the Army a lot of money and embarrassment.
When Lt. Watada expressed dissatisfaction with his impending deployment, the Army should have reassigned him to a paperwork job, while discharging him. It would have saved the Army $$ and a ton of embarrassment.

Diversity is tearing this country apart. To much of anything is bad. To much diversity is bad. Being tolerant of those who are different is one thing and valuing diversity is another – do not confuse the two concepts. The idea of forcing differing people into a group isn’t really such a good idea. While it is true that a diverse group can be more productive and accomplish more than a less diverse group it is also true that such a group brought together by force will be less productive as the elements of the group fight each other. I suspect this is what the general in battle dress is afraid to talk about.

So all those posting here saying that nothing this man indicates that he deserves being called a terrorist, the next time I know of a man who speaks out openly against the war, places internet posting calling suicide bombers ‘heroes’, and jumps on a table armed to the hilt crying Allahu Akbar as he begins pumping lead into people’s bodies, I’m supposed to say ‘everybody calm down this is not a terrorist act, he only wants to reach out’. You’re crazy.

My nephew thought the CIA was bugging his car and the electrical appliances in his home. He threatened to kill his father, brothers and his employer. This is called mental illness not terrorism. I know another schizophrenic that talked to religious pictures on the wall and he was Catholic. This is called mental illness not terrorism. He also tried to kill someone and that was his mother.

Deploying the Muslim major was a good idea. As a psychiatrist, he was not being sent to “kill” fellow Muslims. He was being put into a position where he could bring peace between U.S. forces and the civilian population where he was to be deployed – at least that’s what it looks like on paper. No. I don’t think his murderous actions had anything to do with his loyalties to Muslims or the U.S. army. His motives were strictly personal. Not uncommon to obscure the motive with the method. In the strict sense of the word, it was terrorism but it was not a sponsored act of terrorism. In short, the guy was pushed over the edge.

I agree with you “Huh”

Anyone dressing up in his religious garb and not as a soldier in preparation for a mass execution with two guns, not one, yelling his “God is Great”. could not possibly be deranged or “snapped” as the bleeding hearts would claim. This was premeditated and no doubt “programmed” in accordance with a certain “religious” conviction or delusion. To hell with us the “infidels”, now the fellow soldiers are praying for his soul. I don’t believe all this and thinking that I am only having a nightmare…or secretly I hope…what has happened to America?

I wonder how many Muslims in America today view this man as a hero instead of a terrorist or even insane. I would venture it is more than half the Muslim population in favor of his actions.

The day of 911 the Muslim people I knew said they were ashamed that day to be a a Muslim. I found myself that day comforting them as they were also hurting and I told them not to be ashamed and they were not to blame for what happened that day, and that all nationalities have mentally ill people who do terrible things.

Not a terrorist act? Then according to this logic 9/11 wasn’t terrorist act either.
What do the killers have to do: contact the omnipotent media the night before? wear a sign on their torso with blinking strobe lights saying “terrorist committing terrorist act” signed and dated by two witnesses?
What a country we live in.

This had everything to do with Islam. Wake up guys!
Fort Hood Shooter: “maybe the Muslims could stand up and fight against the aggressor”~

I believe he just flipped out, after listening to horror stories from soldiers coming back from there,,,and he knew he was about to have to endure those same horrors.I would imagine American soldiers who are Muslim, would be seen as bigger targets to Muslims in Afghanistan or Iraq.Why do we continue tow lie wars we cannot possibly win? There is NOTHING to win.We are just spending money we don’t have and leaving a growing number of dead soldiers who die
for “Others ” profit, NOT the defense of this country.It’s ALL about money,,enough to kill 3,000 Americans and cover it up while pointing the finger and waving the flag. Washington was responsible for 911, every bit of it.

Tincup, the military may have screwed up but it does not alter the fact that this guy is a home grown MUSLIM terr.or.ist. Pure and simple that is what he is regardless of what his lawyer might plead.

I think President Bush made some unfortunate comments about the Palastine people and Islamics prior to 911. For what ever reason, I don’t know but I wish he hadn’t done that. Mistakes were made and I hope we have learned something from the mistakes.

Oh and greenthumb, go ahead and blame Bush for the bombing of the USS Cole, the first World Trade Center Bombing, the Barracks in Saudi, and the embassy in Kenya, but wait he was not president then, but maybe he said something as governor of Texas that made this Muslim soldier turn murdering ter.rr.orist. Hmmm. Hey, blame Bush for WWII, he was not born when that started.

Of course it was a terrorist act !!. This guy killed 13 Americans and injured 30. What other damage did this creep do? I fear for the soldiers he “counseled”. Stop making excuses for Hasan.My condolences to the families and friends of the victims. My best wishes to the injured.

We need to ask the slain victims’ families and the wounded victims what they would call this attack on them. What is their opinion? And let’s include all the witnesses to the immediate tragedy that weren’t physically wounded also. What do they think?

“”"”"It was Major Hasan, though, who increasingly felt let down by the military, and deeply conflicted by his religion, said those who knew him through the mosque. Duane Reasoner Jr., an 18-year-old substitute teacher whose parents worked at Fort Hood, said Major Hassan was told he would be sent to Afghanistan on Nov. 28, and he did not like it.
“He said he should quit the Army,” Mr. Reasoner said. “In the Koran, you’re not supposed to have alliances with Jews or Christian or others, and if you are killed in the military fighting against Muslims, you will go to hell.”
“”"”"Danquah assumed the military’s chain of command knew about Hasan’s doubts, which had been known for more than a year to classmates at the Maryland graduate military medical program. His fellow students complained to the faculty about Hasan’s “anti-American propaganda,” but said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim student kept officers from filing a formal complaint.”"”"”
It seems he had been denigrating American policies, and nothing was done. Now family says he was teased….

Definitions can be helpful :
Terrorism – act of violence directed intentionally against CIVILIANS with deadly force.
Act of war – act of violence directed intentionally agaist a military force by someone displaying affiliation to the opposing force.
Treason – act deemed to be in support of an enemy force by someone affiliated by citizenship or military service to a particular “side” in a conflict or war.
In this case we can refer to this as Treason but not Terrorism. If he was to display his offiliation to an opposing force we could call this an act of war (while still being by definition treason). This is not a terrorist act as it targeted military personel.

Webster’s New World Dictionary: (1) Terrorism (noun), the use of force or threats. (2) Treason (noun), betrayal of one’s country to an enemy. Could you please tell me the dictionary that you found your definitons in?

Definitions can be helpful :
Terrorism – act of violence directed intentionally against CIVILIANS with deadly force.
Posted by Shane Anderson 9:12 P.M.
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From Dictionary.com – terrorism -
1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.
To think it can’t be a “terrorist” attack because they targeted a military base is very simply false.
I wish George would get some guts and ask REAL questions. Why did our President act as if this was an add on talking point on his Indian summit? It is very scary that we have a President that thinks NOTHING is more important than his agenda. Even American’s deaths.

Hasan is a terrorist, through and through. He just waited for the right opportunity to inflict maximum casualties. He is convinced he is going to heaven for this act of multiple killings.

He seemed like a normal guy who liked to go to the strip clubs with light beer in hand and party. So what happened on the way to Asia?

Casey said”
“What happened at Fort Hood was a tragedy, but I believe it would be an even greater tragedy if our diversity becomes a casualty here.”
To hell with diversity. We don’t need muslims in the American Military.

Hasan was a recent and frequent visitor at the local strip joint, enjoying lap dances and being known as a “good tipper”.
One dancer recounted that Hasan bought lap dances from her in a private room on Oct. 29 and Oct. 30 (…)
This is from a Euro article.( ) Did U.S. media hide this fact?( )
If you google “”911 hijacker strip joint”", you wil see that is EXACTLY the behavior the 911 attackers exhibited in the recent months before the terrorist attack on our country.

Major Hasan “worked” on the Obama Transition Team…”WHY HAS THE MEDIA IGNORED THIS FACT?” Major Hasan, the shooter worked for OBama!!!

Can you imagine if this soldier was a white male who yelled “long live the Confederacy” during the attack? We sure wouldn’t have to look so hard for the media coverage about his background.

This was a terrorist attack … Why is the media downplaying this ??

When you report false stories like one man at Fort Hood acting alone shooting two handguns at the same time using 100 bullets as reported, it seems that reporters would feel immoral or guilty while facing the camera talking. You people up North need to go to a shooting range and shoot two semi-automatic guns at the same time while walking. Then reload them after you use the biggest clip available for that type of handgun bought from the gun store. Start shooting again while aiming at moving and stationary targets try to get away while you are reloading the guns. To the reporters that are not already in the Abyss, “Man looks into the Abyss and there’s nothing staring back at him. At that moment, man finds his character, and that’s what keeps him out of the Abyss.” – Wall Street (1987)
Stop reporting lies to America, check your facts, then double check. After that, use some logic and gut feelings. I am not a reporter and I know more than most of you. “Mike and the Mechanics “Word of Mouth”

I’d like to ask comment writers Huh, Heather and CommonSense, whose common theme is anger at Americans rather than the obvious terrorist Hasan, do you think you could express equivalent sentiments about the home country in the Islamic world?

The reason he lame stream media won’t call it terrorism is it might make 0bama look bad. And they got a alot of PR invested in him…..
Also it looks like they knew about him but did nothing to stop him…..Another blunder by the liar and chief…It seems like these blunders happen almost everyday now…..

Stars are on the left side because they are always closest to the heart.

I share my favorite idiot quote of the week…
“This latest tragedy, at a heavily fortified army base, ought to convince more Americans to reject the argument that the solution to gun violence is to arm more people with more guns in more places,” the Brady Organization’s president, Paul Helmke, said.
Let’s break this down. “Heavily Fortified Base?” Have you been to Fort Hood? It’s not a prison or a castle. Most of Fort Hood is bordered with a wire perimeter fence that can easily be cut or climbed, and is never fully patrolled. After that only about 20 armed Military Police Officers are on duty. I assure all reading this; nobody on Fort Hood feels safe. Thanks to Bill Clinton, nobody can carry concealed weapons on a military base even if they have a license from the State they are in, and open carry is not allowed unless to or from a shooting range, and the bullets have to be locked in a separate container in a separate compartment of the vehicle. Guns can be kept in your on post quarters, but not in your barracks room if you’re single. They have to go in the arms room, and you have to get permission to get them out, and then you must wait for the Unit Armorer to open up the vault and issue you your gun.
Down range in a combat zone, everyone on base has a weapon and at least one magazine at the ready. They sleep with their gun and eat with their gun. The bases are surrounded with 10 foot high concrete barriers, guard towers every 50 meters, automatic weapons at the gates. Vehicles are searched thoroughly, and sometime take up to 10 minutes to get through. Stores don’t sell uniforms so Iraqi’s can’t buy them and pretend to be US Soldiers. Now that’s fortified, and everyone inside is armed. When an attack breaks out on the base, people don’t flee from the fight; they rush into it and suppress the danger.

“…what happened at Fort Hood was a tragedy, but I believe it would be an even greater tragedy if our diversity becomes a casualty here” Seriously??? This guy should resign, clearly another high ranking idiot.

I will admit I only read two pages of comments but I cannot believe howNONE of the ones I read even have a clue what they should be concerned about in this case. The Intelligence agency (CIA) knew of contacts this indiveivual made to the cleric overseas and never even shared that information with the man’s employer. Even within the agencies that are supposed to protect us there is turf wars and divisiveness. Until society (voters) learn how to focus on the important part of an issue (i.e. lack of communication and cooperation between our own agencies) instead of reacting emotionally to these “red herring topics” (i.e. “is this a terrorist act?) we will never make any bona fide progress towards our own safety. LOL! We mistakenly think we can change other countries cultures (Iraq, Afghanistan etc.) and we aren’t even capable of correcting our own.

It seems that Gen. Casey has an ostrich mentality and will accept the “terrorism” scenario only as a last resort. There are radical Muslims in this country plotting against us, while many of our highest public officials studiously look the other way. America will pay dearly for this naive belief system.

“Ft. Hood: Gen. Casey Doesn’t Rule Out Terrorism”
GEE, YOU THINK??!!

So–some think this guy is nuts, then if that is so, all adhereing to the his type of religion must be mentally ill. It was his religion—and the thoughts embedded in his mind from his religion that caused this terrorist act. There was a time, in the military, if one spoke out and did the things that this
terrorist did, you would have been OUT, WITH A DD and it wouldn’t have taken years for it. Of course there was no
political correctness in the old military. What in H— ails this military, and y not get back to investigation of someone who obviously
hated this country. I was in the Air Force, and when I was ordered to a small
base, I had to fill out papers, from the FBI, and they did go to my home town, questioned everyone I knew. In those days, one couldn’t have relatives in Europe. Oh, and my parents and Grandparents were also scrutinized. However, I did get a top secret clearance. Also, I was in communication, and when I got to this
tiny base, was told I wasn’t suppose to be there, however, the AP’s did some checking, and found out I was in the right place. I soon found out, no civilians were allowed on base, military only–even saluted when not in uniform. No one but no one got past the AP’s (Air Police). It was so tight that when food was delivered-the Air Force trucks would go out and have it transferred into AF trucks, back thru the gate etc. Well, needless to say we all took it in stride. However I didn’t like working underground, and being searched in and out. It was 100% tight.
Now have a good day.