GOP Civil War – It’s Not Over Yet

What civil war the people dont want some lib. so they show they will not vote for that person does not create anything but the rebublic at work not war.

I’m a moderate Republican and will NOT lock step with the Hoffman imbeciles from OUT of our district. It’s time that these outsiders that have influenced this race are defeated by a person that represents OUR district. Man, I am P.O. and will be voting for Owens. When they slapped DeDe in the face, they slapped our entire district. Keep you noses out of our district!

With DeDe out of the race, I’m not sure what to do. Owens is more like my kind of Republican than Hoffman, but I am more inclined to pass on this election altogether. I don’t remember anyone asking Palin’s opinion either! I wish she would just stay out of our business, considering how poorly she’s conducted her own in the last year.

The dems control the dem statehouse, have huge majorities in u.s house and filibuster proof senate and you want more power to Pelosi.
Obama will have 6 supreme court picks.
This is a one party nation and you are worried about doug hoffman.
NY is down to two republicans and Paterson has made a mess of the state but that isn’t the issue doug hoffman is.
Fine be happy with your one party system.
This was an unusual election.
There was no primary because it was a special election. If there was a primary doug hoffman wouldn’t have won and some mainstream republican would have won the primary not dede but another more mainstream republican than hoffman.
Because there was no primary Dede was picked by the party bosses and county chairmen.
It turns out Dede’s husband has democratic roots and close to labor that was the big issue.
This was a cynical ploy by the white house and Rahm Emanuel they pushed out Mchugh from the seat so they could get a chance for a pickup. They also offered peter king an ambassador from ireland position.
Also the GOP is coming back in NY because of paterson. Giuliani in a matchup with gillibrand would win 53-36 percent. Pataki would defeat gillibrand
What about the dems running lieberman out of the party?
What about the dems running dingell out of the enviornment committee and putting henry waxman there so he could give us huge tax increases in climate change bill.
The dems have moved far left.

Look the demographics in this country with massive immigration point to one party democratic rule forever.
In 1980 90 percent of the electorate was white and now 50 percent of the children under 5 years of age are non white.
Obama is taking away the powers of local sheriffs to patrol against illegal immigration.
There will be a permanent democratic majority forever and ever and permanent one party rule with the demographic explosion from illegal immigration.
So Doug Hoffman is a non entity.

GOP has more moderates than dems do.
Richard Lugar, Murkowski, snowe, collins, voinovich, martinez.
Gop moderates voted for hate crimes law.
Gop moderates voted for stem cell bill.
Dems are the ones who put a litmus test on people they ran lieberman out of the party.
Dems kicked out a moderate in energy committee and put in harry waxman who wants higher taxes with climate change bill.
Dems filibustered medical malpractice reform and every bill that had merit when gop was in control.
Dems all of them filibustered miguel estrada to be a judge because they didn’t want the first hispanic judge to be a conservative on the supreme court.
10 republicans voted for sotomayor.
Gop allows far greater diversity in opinions than the dems.
But dems have the media on their side and now we have one party rule. There are ZERO checks and balances.
Dems always had the filibuster under bush. Now GOP has no filibuster in the senate and dems have 60 senators and huge majority in the house.
Obama will have at least 6 u.s supreme court picks you have no idea how liberal the court will be and what kind of rulings are awaiting us.
This is bad for our country to have no checks and balances.
We have run away spending which is adding massive debt and causing a weak dollar which in turn is making gas prices rise again.

There are 2 republicans out of 29 house seats in new york.
Yeah real balance. But Doug Hoffman is the issue.
Not david paterson. Not run away spending.
No Doug Hoffman.
Enjoy your one party rule.

Chris Christie of New Jersey won the primary as a moderate republican against lonegan who ran as a republican.
Media didn’t highlight this because the media wants a one party system.
McCain defeated the rush crowd in the primary who railed against him everyday.
McCain even won the south carolina primary.
So this idea that rush rules the republican party is a joke.
The only reason why there wasn’t a primary in the republican party for the voters was because rahm emanuel cynically wanted this by taking the republican for the seat and making him army secretary.
Be angry at the white house for taking a good moderate republican out of the district for cynical political reasons. They also tried this with pete king offering him the ambassador to ireland.
If there was a primary instead of party bosses picking a more mainstream republican would be representing the right instead of hoffman. A primary would have solved everything. It is only in special elections you don’t have primaries.
There will be a primary next year for 2010 for the race.
Also New York is one of the few states with a separate conservative party. So this was a very unique occurence.

Also Palin had nothing to do with this race. Fred Thompson was the first major endorser and Dede was already crashing because of her husband’s close ties with labor and dem party machine and her past votes.
Dede was in second place with no money by the time palin jumped on the bandwagon.
palin has never met hoffman.
Doug Hoffman was the main accountant for the 1980 lake placid olympics.
He has better credentials than nancy pelosi lapdog bill owens.

Jon Huntsman will be a future republican party nominee who was cynically used by rahm emanuel to take away obama’s toughest opponent and he believes in service so he was sent to china. Huntsman ran the best run state in the country and is a moderate.
The moderates rule the republican party mccain won with limbaugh and hannity ripping him every day.
The media wants you to think rush has more power than he has so they can paint gop in a terrible light and have permanent one party dem control.
Why do you think the media talks about beck and limbaugh so much?

Jeff,
Get a grip.

Democrat Judgment Day in 366 days, with a sneak peak on Tuesday.
Bye bye, Corzine…..

Ben | Nov 1, 2009 3:00:17 PM
….But Dr Paul has his work cut out for him to be considered a serious presidential contender in 2012. So, far, there is no other who is serious about dealing with the DEBT problem.

One Party. One World Order. It’s coming.

GREAT! The more GOLDWATER REPUBLICANS the better (and you know what happened to them!). I can’t wait for the Palin-Limbaugh ticket in 2012. Heck, it might win Alaska, at least.

I am a liberal (just want to make that perfectly clear!), and I am completely confused with what is going on within the republican party. Most of the time it appears as though republicans have completely gone off the deep-end with religiously radical nut-jobs who make me so proud to be an open-minded liberal. But, every once in a while (make that, extremely rarely) a somewhat “calm” republican tells me that the republican party is really two completely different groups now! So… what’s the real story here? If republicants (oops!) are truly splintered, let’s re-name the two separate groups so we all know “who’s on first base…who’s on second base…”

You guys that say for us to keep our noses out of your ditrict get with it. In the end it affects all of us!! But you all probably do not know that since you guys probably have never read the Constitution!!!

How can people worry about doug hoffman when this one party democrat system will prevent your kids from getting into a good college.
Don’t you understand that affirmative action is reverse racial discrimination.
How many supreme court justices do you ant Obama to pick.
Doug Hoffman in the house doesn’t vote for supreme court nominees.
I don’t get these moderate republicans.
The democrats have taken this country far left and will be a permanent majority with illegal immigration. And democrats will forever appoint justices that will forever rule for affirmative action even when whites are 5 percent of the country.
Hope you moderate dems are happy with complete democratic control of the courts when your kid can’t get into a good college because obama passed the dream act which allows illegals to get tuition covered.
But you so called moderate republicans are worried about doug hoffman when Obama is packing the courts with far leftists.

Massive illegal immigration has also moved the dem party to the left.
The liberals control the dem party and they ran off lieberman and now are having a primary against specter.
Massive illegal immigration has moved the dems further to the left and no moderate democrat will ever again be able to win the white house.
Every presidential election from here to eternity with massive illegal immigration means that the election will be who is most liberal in the democratic primary.

That’s a shame, Charlie Crist is a well-respected moderate, and intelligent man who really represented hope for the future path and success of the Republican party. Too bad they have decided to take the road toward crazy instead, as they seem to be doing all over the country. Although I am a Democrat, I like an effective two-party system where both sides actually have intelligent stances and something good to offer to the balance. Having lived in FL for a couple of years recently, Charlie Crist is one of the few that I respect, for his intelligence, fairness and willingness to ability to create greater unity and cooperation, and I would not mind seeing him in a higher office.

Jeff, I am more of a conservative than you, but I agree that Jon Huntsman will someday be a Republican contender. He is remarkable. That’s why the Obama administration gave him that post in China or whever. They wanted him out of the way.

I am waiting to hear folks like Colin Powell, Charlie Crist, and Arnold Schwazzenhager start a new party.

We badly need that new party you suggest, but money is the big obstacle to a real and viable third party, one that could actually be a winner at the Presidential level and develope a strong base in both houses of Congress, at least strong enough to force the other two parties ro bargain for votes on issues.

Lieberman is an albatross. I doubt very seriously he’ll be around much longer.
Secondly, regarding the situation with the GOP, you have had a slow-motion suicide since AT LEAST the 1970′s where more moderate Rep’s were pushed aside.
Finally in 1991, you saw the various actors work against a sitting president and go hard-right.
The evangelicals are about the only element the hard-right needed, but after the multiple betrayals by Mr. Bush, they left too.
So now there’s an out and out fight to retain any sense of party unity and don’t think for one minute, they wouldn’t foist another empty vessel Palin up again. Moderate Rep candidates simply don’t exist in the eyes of the media or if they do they’re considered “DINO’s” but what’s important to realize is that if some control isn’t exerted over the more radical elements now in command of the microphone, the only thing that’s going to go extinct is the GOP itself.

Let’s get back to FL…I don’t know about civil war in the GOP – but I DO know why Crist is being knocked out by the FL Republicans… He IGNORED his State!!! He got lured away on the hopes of being a VP candidate for the first 2 years of his Governorship – and went off to play in the Washington Beltway while his State began to sink. He still hasn’t stepped up to run this State. He was a GREAT AG. He is a ROTTEN Gov. BIG disappointment. It has nothing to do with political philosophy though – and EVERYTHING to do with his being AWOL! Period.

Dear Mr. Stephanopoulos,
Could your bias (at least on this particular issue) be any more obvious? Check out the number of follow-up questions pushing your point.
1. Stephanopoulos: Why has that core promise of the president’s campaign, healing the divide, gone unfulfilled?
Jarrett: Well, you should ask that question to the Republican Party. He has reached out. He has listened. He has reached across the aisle.
2. Stephanopoulos: So the president bears no responsibility for the failure to get Republican votes?
Jarrett: Well, I think — I think what we look to the president to do is to lead by example. He has reached out. He has listened.
3. Stephanopoulos: But [he hasn't included] their ideas in the legislation..
Jarrett: Well, actually, that’s not true. There have been examples of where he has included their ideas.
4. Stephanopoulos: So the president doesn’t feel he needs to change the way he does business at all, to reach out more to Republicans, to get more Republicans buy-in?
Jarrett: Oh, George, listen. He is constantly reaching out to Republicans. Both he and his team. And he will continue to do that. But ultimately it’s up to the Republicans…
5. Stephanopoulos: Does that mean, for example, that Speaker Pelosi should give the Republicans a vote on an alternative in health care?
Jarrett: I’m not going to in any way comment on what the speaker should do.
7. Stephanopoulos: Well, to follow through, shouldn’t he ask the speaker then to give Republicans a vote?
JARRETT: [It] doesn’t mean that you actually have to change what you think is in the best interests of the American people simply to get a Republican vote.
Good lord. Banging head on desk.

LOL………Republicans beating up Republicans……….your basic Win/Win situation for American.

This election is not a statement on President Obama as much as it is on both parties. This tells us that a third party is absolutely necessary. The republican party is moving toward being so inclusive that it is almost Klan like. I have seen the demonstrations with people coming to tea parties with guns and signs hanging our President. This is a bad sign for any party. These people have been hiding in waiting for the chance to expound their views, and the republicans are giving them that opportunity. I don’t say all of the tea party people are that way but too many of them are and it scares me to death. They hate Obama so much that they are aligning themselves with a distorted group of individuals and some day they will be sorry. As someone who was a republican for 23 years, I can see the change and left the party in 2008 because of the klimited thinking in the republican party. Many good people who are still in the party are seeing it also and hopefully will also leave. The hate that emenates from this party is keeping anything from being accomplished except more hate. Too bad, it once was a good party. Young people don’t want a party with such limited ideas, Latinos are also disappointed in it and this country is soon to be mostly Latinos and other nationalities. The republicans have not adjusted to this fact i.e. Sotomayor. The gays are openly dejected and same sex marriage is not on their list. Equal rights is not being expanded in this party put limited. They need to step back and re-think their strategy….