Heading to Oslo in Weeks, President Obama Faces Tough Days on the Diplomatic Front
BEIJING, CHINA — In less than a month, President Obama will step onto a stage in Oslo, Norway, to accept the Nobel Peace Prize.
If Mr. Obama hoped that his week-long four-country visit to Asia, his first as president, would yield concrete accomplishments that might silence critics skeptical that he deserves that prize, he might be disappointed.
Though White House aides insist the president's trip was mainly to reassert a US presence in Asian diplomacy, and that his itinerary set no expectations for major feats, the president has heard disappointing news in the past few days.
On Tuesday, even as one member of the White House National Security Council seemed to signal his belief that President Obama would soon be pushing for economic sanctions against Iran for refusing to cooperate with international diplomatic efforts to end its suspected nuclear weapons program, Chinese President and Paramount Leader Hu Jintao Tuesday signaled he might not be willing to go along if the matter comes up for a vote on the United Nations Security Council.
"We both stressed that to uphold the international nuclear nonproliferation regime and to appropriately resolve the Iranian nuclear issue through dialogue and negotiations is very important to stability in the Middle East and in the Gulf region," President Hu said after meeting with President Obama. "During the talks, I underlined to President Obama that given our differences in national conditions, it is only normal that our two sides may disagree on some issues. What is important is to respect and accommodate each other's core interests and major concerns."
Earlier on his trip, in Singapore, the Prime Minister of Denmark, Lars Loekke Rasmussen, the U.N.-sponsored climate conference's chairman, formally announced that he did not think there would be an agreement coming out of Copenhagen, and more negotiations will be necessary.
Then, after meeting with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev in a side meeting in Singapore, President Obama acknowledged that US-Russian negotiators would almost certainly not make the deadline for a new nuclear disarmament agreement to take the place of the START treaty that expires on December 5.
More frustrations followed.
On Monday, Chinese government officials refused to broadcast live President Obama's Shanghai town hall meeting on state-run television.
Moreover, Chinese authorities attacked the US economy. China Banking Regulatory Commission chairman Liu Mingkang blamed falsely inflated assets throughout the world on "massive speculation" caused by a weak U.S. dollar and low U.S. interest rates, which he said prompted "unavoidable risks for the recovery of the global economy, especially emerging economies." Yao Jian, a spokesman for China's Ministry of Commerce, complained of "a protectionist side" of the US economy, a concern President Hu echoed.
Asked about these incidents, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters that President Obama "did not think the waters would part and everything would change as a result of his 2 1/2 day trip to China."
But more widely, said a senior administration official, "We came on this trip to try to incrementally move the ball forward on a number of key and important issues."
On climate change, said the official, "we have reached consensus with the leaders of APEC" — the Asian-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit — "and now with this visit to China, to keep working to make Copenhagen a success by reaching a political agreement that allows the process to continue to move forward. On START, similarly, we had our meeting with Medvedev to try to create further momentum to try to get this done by as close as possible to the December 5 expiration date."
"And on Iran," continued the official, "we wanted to continue our close consultation with the Russians and the Chinese on our agreed-upon dual-track approach," pursuing negotiations with Iran while also preparing for sanctions.
Jeffrey Bader, Senior Director for Asian Affairs at the National Security Council acknowledged that "the Chinese clearly are hoping that there will be some sort of resolution" on the Iranian nuclear dilemma. "the president did talk to President Hu about the possibility… that we will not reach a resolution of this issue and we may have to go to track two and greater pressure. I would not say we got an answer today from the Chinese, nor did we expect one on the subject."
He seemed to almost say that he thought sanctions would be a "probability," but he stopped himself and stuck with "possibility."
"We expect the Chinese to be with us," Bader said.
Other issues also make the US-China relationship "complex," as US Ambassador to China Jon Huntsman acknowledged. For example: US owes China roughly $800 billion, which some analysts suggest doesn’t exactly give the US the strongest hand in negotiations.
Michael Froman, deputy US National Security Adviser for International Economic Affairs, said that the US's massive debt had "no impact whatsoever" on negotiations and was never raised in conversations.
"The president dealt with every issue on his agenda in a very direct way," Froman insisted.
That included President Obama politely pressing the issue of human rights — even if Chinese government officials emphasized their own views of matters.
"I spoke to President Hu about America’s bedrock beliefs that all men and women possess certain fundamental human rights," President Obama said. "We do not believe these principles are unique to America but rather they are universal rights and that they should be available to all peoples, to all ethnic and religious minorities."
Said President Hu, "the two sides reaffirmed the fundamental principle of respecting each other's sovereignty and territorial integrity. Neither sides supports any attempts by any force to undermine this principle. We will continue to act in the spirit of equality, mutual respect and non-interference in each other's internal affairs, and engage in dialogue and exchanges on such issues as human rights and religion in order to enhance understanding, reduce differences and build common ground."
Asked how President Obama pressed the issue of human rights, Bader told ABC News that the US is most "persuasive if we have our own house in order."
President Obama's presidential order to close the detainee center at Guantanamo Bay is an example of how he is working hard "to correct and improve the image of the United States on human rights," Bader said, which makes his appeals to China more impactful than when the "salesman is not persuasive." The president told China how the US has been strengthened by such values, Bader said.
As for nuclear disarmament, nuclear non-proliferation, and climate change, "we believe we have on this trip successfully moved these issues forward," the senior administration official said. "We were not expecting any major breaththroughs. Diplomacy is incremental."
– jpt

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China and India the 2 biggest polluters in the world could care less about the Oslo accords, The President should walk away until they have joined the fight. This combined with cap & trade will cost him his next election. Signing this agreement give our sovereignty away on matters of pollution standards.
Posted by: hkdakota | November 17, 2009, 8:07 am 8:07 am
this is a different story but did anybody understand that goverment standards for mamograms are changing to age 50. This is rationing health care already. They need to do this to get their numbers to look good.
Posted by: JJJ | November 17, 2009, 9:31 am 9:31 am
“Chinese President and Paramount Leader Hu Jintao Tuesday signaled he might not be willing to go along if the matter comes up for a vote on the United Nations Security Council”
You’re kidding, right? OMG! What a shocka!
Fire up those armaments Israel. It’s hammer time!
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 17, 2009, 9:54 am 9:54 am
Said President Hu, “… We will continue to act in the spirit of equality, mutual respect and non-interference in each other’s internal affairs, and engage in dialogue and exchanges on such issues as human rights and religion in order to enhance understanding, reduce differences and build common ground.”
Translation: Mind your own business, keep buying our junk and we’ll keep buying your debt.
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 17, 2009, 10:04 am 10:04 am
Well,he faces tough days on the Home Front too and he’s not exactly doing a good job on that either.
Posted by: noconfidence | November 17, 2009, 11:12 am 11:12 am
_Der Spiegel_ just blasted him, China’s tsk-tsking about the idiotic health care bills, and the rest of the world may be laughing at Obama, but Americans want to IMPEACH him immediately and then charge him with treason.
He has made a fine mess of everything, and needs to pay for his treasonous actions against the United States.
Posted by: tanarg | November 17, 2009, 11:39 am 11:39 am
“_Der Spiegel_ just blasted him,”
ROFLMAO!
Do right wingers read beyond the Drudge headline?
Here’s what that article had to say about Americans.
“For most Americans, the world beyond the US’s borders is nothing more than an irritating nuisance. For this reason, arguments based on appeals about drowning Bangladeshis, starving Africans and flooded islands in Indonesia have little effect. In Hollywood, the United States has an industry that continually pushes the materialistic ideal of Western prosperity to billions of people around the world, while at the same time bombarding them with apocalyptic visions in the form of disaster movies.
Many Americans clearly also believe that real climate change is just something dreamt up by the entertainment industry.
Obama has proven himself to be unable to put an end to the lies that modern American society is based on. He is unable to overcome the entrenched lobbyists of the oil and coal industries and make the reality clear to his compatriots: They are the worst energy wasters on the planet — and are thus, indirectly, a major threat to world peace in the 21st century. Although they do not enjoy a higher quality of life than Europeans, Americans consume twice as much fossil fuel per capita. Their cars are too big, their homes are not energy-efficient, and they have yet to focus their talents for innovation away from trivial entertainment gadgets and toward renewable energy-technologies.”
Right wingers using anti American lefty European opeds to attack Obama.
Obama derangement syndrome indeed.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 17, 2009, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
Quote from Der Spiegel:
‘Obama’s Soft Approach on China Won’t Succeed’
Though President Obama has not shied away from discussing human rights and censorship on his three-day trip to China, growing US dependence on China has taken the thunder out of his rhetoric. more…
Posted by: Lizzie | November 17, 2009, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
The rest of the world now sees Obama for the shallow self promoter that he has always been.Totally without substance.It’s only his shrinking base of domestic zombies that continue to apologize for his glaring inadequacies.He won’t carry 10 states by 2012.Thank goodness
Posted by: Sue | November 17, 2009, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
It’s no wonder world opinion of Mr. Obama remains high. Instead of putting a strong foot forward on behalf of US interests, Mr. Obama bends to foreign priorities. (And yes, that was an intended pun.)
Posted by: Jason FSU | November 17, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Diplomacy is incremental…
Yes it is. This was a well written article by Tapper. I like his professional form of journalism and professional critiques of the president and his administration. This is what the press should do and professional organizations (i.e. NY Times, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN) do. We need good analysis that is critical for proper educational value. The right-wing press and allies have failed to provide good critiques and though their voices are loud, their opinions only resonate within the base.
Obama can not part the waters, but he begin a constructive dialogue with friend and foe alike. This is beneficial to the current administration and to future administrations (D or R). Everything that Obama has done in terms of international affairs will benefit our nation. That is beyond dispute.
Posted by: Anthony R. Seta | November 17, 2009, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Obama is laughed at at home. Anyone paying attention KNOWS his health care is on death watch. Cap and TAX, immigration reform (giving 12 million ILLEGALS USA jobs) and card check are all DEAD. Why? Because they are ALL JOB KILLERS. EVERY idea this idiot has kills jobs. GEE, I wonder why no businesses are hiring? IN 2010 and 2012 WE are taking the DEMS OUT. IT’S ON BROTHER!
Posted by: danceswithtrees | November 17, 2009, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Obama didn’t think the waters would part? Doesn’t he think he can walk on it?
Who’s on the list for The Perpendicular President to bow to next?
Posted by: mikeyslaw | November 17, 2009, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
As a retired institutional bond salesman, I can say that Obama is the kind of guy business people love to do business with. That is, a guy who thinks very highly of himself, who is under pressure to deliver, who feels the need to bow down before counter-parties (the emperor of Japan) and who likes everyone to worship him, can easily be walked upon and made to give concessions. This is why the WH staff talks the way they do about his “big” trip that accomplished absolutely NOTHING.
Posted by: Bill Carson | November 17, 2009, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
What in the world are the Chinese doing? Didn’t they get the “Yes We Can” and “Hope and Change” message the American voters got last year? Obama is the Messiah people! The Messiah!! Pay attention!
Posted by: Josie | November 17, 2009, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Bader told ABC news: “the US is most persuasive if we have our own house in order”. Comparing chinas’ continual and horrific human rights abuses to Gitmo is ridiculous. That statement perfectly sums up the Obama administrations’ opinion about this country. Moral relativism at its worst.
Posted by: sheepdog | November 17, 2009, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Lots of time overseas, huh? Guess there’s nothing important to do here at home! What a waste. Sucker POTUS.
Posted by: Fred | November 17, 2009, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
This is the most objective comment section I’ve seen in a while.
Posted by: mur | November 17, 2009, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Guantanamo Bay? The President’s men really think this is the time to pretend that China cares about Guantanamo Bay? OMG, these people just cannot step off their agenda and will try anything to sell it.
Posted by: Libby | November 17, 2009, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
What I find odd is that with all this diplomacy of kow towing first to our enemies and then bowing to our so called friends, Obama has made little impact in convincing Russia, China and Japan to actually help in the war against Islamofascism. Today, Gordon Brown once again talked about stopping the terrorists in the ME, Afghan. et al. And this guy is on his way out in the next election. Yet, Obama bows to the Burmese dictator. Yes, Burma. I like the older name. He knows China owns all of his trillions in the deficits he is piling up. But, as a CIC, where is his Messiah like leadership??? Nowhere to be found. Americans want a Prez who defends them as well as reaching out to our allies first, and then to our enemies without a wretched appeasing type of diplomacy. As to failing on Climate, Thank God. Another nutty idea from the LEFT which would bankrupt the USA and keep us from exploiting our huge energy resources of coal, oil, shale oil , natural gas and safe nuclear plant building. Every time this naif in the WH fails, he actually is doing America a wonderful service.
Posted by: Glenn Koons | November 17, 2009, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Um. Is this the smarter foreign policy we were promised?
Posted by: JB | November 17, 2009, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Great article Jake. First rate journalism. Very informative.
Posted by: Jchenn | November 17, 2009, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Apologizing doesn’t work, Bowing doesn’t work, appeasing our adversaries doesn’t work, indecisive dithering doesn’t work, Obama is repeating the failed Jimmy Carter foreign policy of four year in one year. And it is probably too late to change! Our adversaries and our allies now have his measure. The rest of his Presidency may well be driven by the weakness of his first year. I hope he enjoys his peace prize. The Russians, Chinese, Iranians, Venezuelans etc will be snickering!
Posted by: valwayne | November 17, 2009, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Some people are actually ill-informed enough to think international diplomacy is a simple game – easily accomplished in a few short months.
Didn’t work for the last administration in the Israel/Palestine situation. Didn’t work for the last administration in Iran, north North Korea. Gazing into Putin’s soulful blue eyes didn’t work for the last administration either. Nor kissing the Saudi’s on the mouth and walking hand in hand- oil prices skyrocketed – but then we know who benefited from that don’t we . .
If only it were as easy as the biased folks on this site seem to think – it could all be solved in a simple 9 or 10 months – or with a snap of the Republicans blessed fingers. Sorry, been there and seen that.
Picky, picky, picky . . . not so smart.
Posted by: Jack Dalton | November 17, 2009, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
“Everything that Obama has done in terms of international affairs will benefit our nation. That is beyond dispute”. Just like global warming. What is beyond dispute is that people who claim that highly disputed issues are beyond dispute are idiots.
Posted by: Canthisbe | November 17, 2009, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
His Acorn honed communtity organizing skills are really paying off on this apology tour.
Oh, wait, the chinese spanked his fiscal policy and massive debt increases and dollar devaluation….
Then laughed at him on his internet freedom hypocrisy….
After he bowed & scraped again….
Hope n Change, brought to you by the V.
Posted by: Gibberish | November 17, 2009, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
High sounding drivel got him the Nobel. Thats a big deal since Norwegians run the world
Posted by: jp | November 17, 2009, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Everyone has Hussein’s number. He is weak, pliable, and instills neither fear in our enemies nor respect from our allies. He is a laughingstock.
Posted by: Sully | November 17, 2009, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Obama….
The constant lying.
The childish whining.
The disgraceful bowing.
The staggering arrogance.
The poisonous radicalism.
The dangerous narcissism.
The astounding incompetence.
Obama wants to put as much of the private economy under government control as possible to create his nanny state utopia where he is the boy king.
Let’s continue to stand strong against Obama in every way and get Congress out of the hands of the insane Pelosi and Reid in 2010.
Obama is a smug, smirking con man. Nothing more.
Posted by: Jackson | November 17, 2009, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Speak loudly and carry a small stick…
Posted by: Mike in Costa Mesa | November 17, 2009, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Oh yes, – we dare not talk to China about Civil Rights until we get our own house in order….
Disgusting! That remark is an insult against the American people by our White House.
We have been victims of Muslim bombs, attempted attacks, honor killings, etc., on average, every three to six months since 9/11. All the President and Napolitano can blather about is ‘fear’ of the American citizenry. We might have a backlash, they worry. They actually fear the American citizenry!
They should praise us and be truly amazed at our personal self-restraint.
We have over 300 million privately owned firearms in this country and NOT ONE Muslim has been attacked in revenge for the constant assaults they – inspired and directed by their Prophet – have inflicted upon us. But no – no – no – they have to tell us that we didn’t really see Islamic terror when we saw Islamic terror because they truly believe we are trogolodytes. They don’t EVER consider and praise our amazing and civil restraint and respect for the rights of others.
And – Do these idiots in the White House not know that the Chinese just rounded up about 10,000 Chinese Muslim Uighurs – some of whom were FORTUNATE enough to escape to the freedom of the United States – and conducted another Stalinist/Maoist slaughter purge?
Do they not know that Chinese women have been taken from homes, piled into trucks and hounded into having abortions?
Of course not. These ignoramuses in the White House do not know American history, the American culture, nor any world history – past or present. It’s no wonder we never see the First Fraud’s academic records.
Disgusting.
We have a country of men and women imbued with an amazing amount of civil restraint and respect for the law.
The President of Harvard Law Review doesn’t even have a clue!
He claims to worry about the little oppressed man. Then he bows to the Empreror and the Saudi Totalitarian Tribal Chieftain – two guys who won the sperm race and historically ruled by the sword to ensure their win.
He thinks Marxism was about the ‘little man.’ Well – it was. It was about keeping everyone little.
America was about elevating the dignity of the little man and all men to their greatest potential.
The reason our Presidents do NOT bow to potentates is the same reason that neither I nor any child of mine would ever bow to Clinton, Obama, or Bush.
Because we all truly imbued with equal rights.
That a President, representing my nation and me would bow to some clown who got his job winning a sperm race is unbelievable.
Obama is such an ignoramus that he doesn’t see the irony: His precious Marxist/Socialist outlook was born of a philosophy designed to destroy the very people to whom he bows!
Obama is an utter disgrace.
Jim
Posted by: Jim Anderson | November 18, 2009, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Hilarious he was greeted with photoshops of him in a Red Army uniform with “Obamao” captions.
Equally funny they don’t get the joke…or maybe they do???
Either way, some epic “uncomfortable” moments for TOTUS.
Epic.
The Gipper had nothing on The Zero.
Posted by: Gibberish | November 18, 2009, 12:24 am 12:24 am
This is so ridiculous, closing Gitmo and trying foreign Al Qeada terrorist who killed 3000 Americans in s civilian court………. ah that’s really going to show the Russian and Chinese, the same Chinese that put to death 5 people last week for participating in riots 2 months.
Those decisions about closing Gitmo, investigating the CIA, releasing classified documents, giving terrorists behind 911 constitutional rights, ending the ability of the CIA to use enhanced interrogations, these decisions have nothing to do with world opinion, the great powers think Obama is naive and foolish, these actions are all about appeasing the hard left, this decisions are all based on a anti American constituency that Obama surrounded himself before he became President, Jeremiah Wright wasn’t a person Obama just knew he was his mentor and spiritual advisor, you don’t become close to someone that out spoken if you don’t share their views, that America is the cause of much of the worlds ills and has to be taken down a couple of pegs and if the American national security is compromised so be it.
Posted by: sam | November 18, 2009, 2:03 am 2:03 am
Some people are actually ill-informed enough to think international diplomacy is a simple game – easily accomplished in a few short months.
Didn’t work for the last administration in the Israel/Palestine situation. Didn’t work for the last administration in Iran, north North Korea. Gazing into Putin’s soulful blue eyes didn’t work for the last administration either. Nor kissing the Saudi’s on the mouth and walking hand in hand- oil prices skyrocketed – but then we know who benefited from that don’t we . .
If only it were as easy as the biased folks on this site seem to think – it could all be solved in a simple 9 or 10 months – or with a snap of the Republicans blessed fingers. Sorry, been there and seen that.
Picky, picky, picky . . . not so smart.
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I agree with this, the other posters are amateurs pretending to know what they’re talking about. The big American posture, is really just the big American posterior.
Posted by: Dane Thomas | November 18, 2009, 2:26 am 2:26 am
From the article above:
‘Asked about these incidents, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters that President Obama “did not think the waters would part and everything would change as a result of his 2 1/2 day trip to China.”‘
Funny, but a great number of first-time voters in the 2008 election thought that “think the waters would part and everything would change as a result of” electing then-Senator Obama to the Presidency. His lack a ‘loaves-and-fishes’ moment in the first two years of his first term will cost Democrats as the disillusioned first-time voters either sit out or vote Republican in 2010.
He can’t seriously expect to ride this “ignorance of the problems the prev administration left me” strategy till next November – EVENTUALLY the press and the American people will remember he was a sitting US Senator who’s job it was to understand the issues facing our country and work to correct them. That’s what the other 99 Senators did (including Senators McCain & Clinton).
His novelty pass on all issues is about to expire, and both his critics AND supporters are looking for concrete accomplishments, not inspiring rhetoric. I find it amazing that with super majorities in both the House and Senate the only way the Matthew Shepard anti-discrimination act could pass was as part of a defense dept. authorization bill. What a ‘victory’.
Posted by: N2vip | November 18, 2009, 6:34 am 6:34 am
Betcha’ some Chinese wish they could vacation at Gitmo…….
Posted by: just sayin' | November 18, 2009, 7:09 am 7:09 am
Obama’s malignant narcissism is going to get many more Americans killed before his term is out.
Fort Hood exposed a completely vulnerable underbelly of politically-induced willful blindness in the heart of our security apparatus. The trial of the 9/11 terrorists will make a mockery of American justice, since the “defendants” were neither read their Miranda rights, nor (according to el presidente Himself) treated humanely in captivity. Expect an acquittal on an array of technicalities! And expect our national secrets to be made public, to the long-term detriment of our intelligence capability.
Having made appropriate political hay of Bush’s lack of fiscal discipline, The One has used it as a fig leaf for a far more reckless and destructive fiscal cronyism and a dangerous asset bubble that may just condemn the next three generations of Americans to third world poverty and chaos.
If anyone still thinks Mr. Hope and Change loves this country, such person is a fool, and has been duped.
Posted by: Bob C | November 18, 2009, 7:54 am 7:54 am
We Democrats had a chance to nominate the workhouse but instead ended up with the showhorse. We reap what we sow.
Posted by: Rick Roberts | November 18, 2009, 9:05 am 9:05 am
If anyone still thinks Mr. Hope and Change loves this country, such person is a fool, and has been duped.
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A statement like this shows the depths of pettiness that pretend as political thinking on the right.
As always their thinking is ‘you either think and believe like us or you hate Ameria, and you’re stupid.’
Throw in ‘you’re a traitor’ etc. and you have the totalitarian mindset of an unfortunate number of right wingers.
Thank God they’re out of power.
Posted by: Jack Dalton | November 18, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm