By Jennifer Parker

Nov 28, 2009 10:57am

Lobbyists Furiously Lobby White House to Preserve Lobbyist Power

Lobbyists have been furiously lobbying the Obama White House to oppose restrictions on their ability to lobby.

The kafuffle began on September 23 when special counsel to the president for ethics and government reform Norm Eisen wrote that "the White House has informed executive agencies and departments that it is our aspiration that federally-registered lobbyists not be appointed to agency advisory boards and commissions."

How many Industry Trade Advisory Committees — ITACs — are there?

The Washington Post says the system of these committees is "so vast that federal officials don't have exact numbers for its size; the most recent estimates tally nearly 1,000 panels with total membership exceeding 60,000 people."

"These appointees to boards and commissions, which are made by agencies and not the President, advise the federal government on a variety of policy areas," Eisen wrote. "Keeping these advisory boards free of individuals who currently are registered federal lobbyists represents a dramatic change in the way business is done in Washington."

The White House wasn't kicking lobbyists off the ITACs. Rather, Eisen wrote, "there are many registered lobbyists who currently serve on these committees as a result of a prior appointment. When these appointments expire, it is our hope that agencies not reappoint anyone who is currently registered as a federal lobbyist at the time of their potential reappointment."

Needless to say, there was an uproar on K Street.

A unanimous vote at a meeting of the American League of Lobbyists Board of Directors on October 19 reflected opposition to Eisen's views.

Sixteen lobbyists who chair ITACs — including executives from Boeing, Harley-Davidson, the International Association of Drilling Contractors, Fanwood Chemical Inc., IBM and others — wrote to the president to protest the decision.

In another letter to Commerce Secretary Gary Locke and US Trade Representative Ron Kirk, the lobbyists said that a "quick review of the impact of this new policy suggests that dozens of the most active — and most knowledgeable — Committee members who generate many of the documents needed by the Committee and our trade negotiators will be dismissed once the new charter term begins. This occurs because individuals who specialize in trade policy matters in their particular sectors often find that such specialization and expertise pushes them above the 20 percent lobbying activity threshold that triggers registration under the Lobbying Disclosure Act" or LDA.

The letter said "the sudden ejection of over 130 advisors from the system will depopulate many of the committees and instantly remove many voice from around the table."

These are people whose "talents" were likely irreplaceable, the letter said. "We understand that public perceptions of lobbyists have been tainted by the criminal and unethical activity of a few individuals," they wrote. "We must stress however that it is wrong to prejudge an entire class of people because of these actions."

Eisen wrote back on October 21.

"I assure you that our action was not provoked, as you suggest, by the 'criminal and unethical behavior of a few individuals,'" he wrote. "Indeed there have been some egregious abuses, but this decision was not meant to besmirch everyone who is a registered federal lobbyist. It's the system as a whole that concerns us. It's an indisputable fact that in recent years, lobbyists for major special interests have wielded extraordinary power in this town. The result has been a national agenda too often skewed in favor of the interests that can afford their services."

Eisen suggested that powerful industries are well represented in Washington, DC — with banking lobbyists paid to "gut meaningful financial reforms," an "army" of health insurance industry lobbyists unleashed to "frustrate" health care reform efforts, oil and gas company lobbyists sent to undermine energy reform all present and accounted for. "But industry representatives shouldn't be given government positions from which to make their case," he wrote.

"While we recognize the contributions some of those who will be affected have made to these committees, it is an indisputable fact that in recent years, lobbyists for major special interests have wielded extraordinary power in Washington DC, resulting in a national agenda too often skewed in favor of the interests that can afford their services," Eisen said again in an October 21 blog post.   "It is that problem that the President has promised to change, and this is a major step in implementing that change."

On October 28, David G. Wenhold, the president of the American League of Lobbyists and Peter G. Mayberry of its board of directors wrote to President Obama  belittling the notion that his "administration will be better served by precluding industry experts from serving on Federal advisory groups simply because they are legally required to comply with provisions contained in the Lobbying Disclosure Act of 1995."

Wenhold and Mayberry took "exception to Mr. Eisen’s efforts to paint all LDA registrants with the same broad brush and demonize our profession. In addition, by taking the steps outlined in both of these communications, we are specifically concerned that your administration will deprive career public officials of the knowledge, perspective, and insight offered voluntarily and free of charge from many of the industry experts who will be precluded from serving as formal advisors under this policy, due solely to their LDA status."

They also took issue with the fact that no one had told them about this decision. Rather, "instead of offering some preliminary signal that this shift in long-standing policy was being contemplated and/or inviting debate on such a drastic change, it was delivered, seemingly fully formed and final, as a blog posting by Mr. Eisen."

Eisen responded to Wenhold and Mayberry in a November 9 letter taking issue with their failure to "address the main point of our October 21 letter: that it's the system as a whole that concerns us."

He disagreed with a number of points raised by the lobbyists, stating "we do not believe that the Administration's actions will 'deprive career public officials of the knowledge, perspective and insight' offered by lobbyists. Should members of the Administration wish to hear from anyone affected by this policy, they are free to call on such individuals for testimony or input. What the policy restricts is giving these lobbyists a government position at the same time they are initiating their own separate contacts with the government to advocate for the positions of the special interests they represent."

He also took issue with the idea that the lobbyists should have gotten a heads-up on the decision, and with the notion that individuals affected "are experts who
merely 'happen to be' lobbyists."

Also on November 9, a number of lobbyists currently on ITACs met with members of the White House staff. The White House, seemingly relishing this spat, posted the list of attendees.

"Just a quick post to report on a meeting today with a group of lobbyists and others who currently chair Industry Trade Advisory Committees (ITACs)," Eisen wrote on his blog that same day.  "The group had objected to the Administration's new policies barring the appointment (and reappointment) of federally registered lobbyists to agency boards and commissions…

"We explained to the ITAC chairs that this issue is not about the few corrupt lobbyists or specific abuses by the profession, but rather concerns the system as a whole. For too long, lobbyists and those who can afford their services have held disproportionate influence over national policy making… we decided that while lobbyists have a right to petition the government, it would best serve the interests of a fairer and more representative democracy if we limited their ability to do so from special positions of privileged access within the government. The result will be a Washington that is more reflective of all of America."

-jpt

User Comments

I don’t know what to believe on this lobbyist thing. Obama speaks of tightening the screws on these people but then he appoints them. We just need a bunch of Ron Paul types that have enough integrity to always show them the door. One reason I hope that the government shrinks massively is to get rid of this lobbyist slime. Of course Obama grows the government and increases spending so expect much lobbying fervor.

Posted by: Huh | November 28, 2009, 11:13 am 11:13 am

It seems kind of silly to complain about lobbyists when people like Jeff Immelt and Andy Stern have direct access to the President.

Posted by: MayBee | November 28, 2009, 11:21 am 11:21 am

No. obama will do what he promised during the campaign and rid Washington DC of all those bad lobbyists. I trust him.

Posted by: Jenny | November 28, 2009, 11:26 am 11:26 am

My heart really bleeds for these guys. For the last 30 years, they have had their way with the country, and look where we are today. Industry rules everything, WE, on the other hand, as the CITIZENS of this country, are seen as nothing but a bottomless pocket just waiting to be picked. And they have been doing that very thing for decades, now.
Time to get rid of these jerks as being the only voices that are ever heard in Washington. WE are ignored, because WE aren’t the ones who fill the pockets of those elected to SUPPOSEDLY represent US, NOT the corporations.
It’s also time to stop the revolving door that goes from lobbyist to congressperson and vice versa. There should be NONE of that allowed, period. I don’t care how long it’s been since they held office, the two things are incompatible.
The lobbyists are one of our largest problems, and they want to just go on and keep being a problem? NO!
And when we hear talk about “special interests”, lets all realize that it’s THEM, NOT US! Screw the lobbyists. They’ve been doing it to us for decades, it’s time they get it back.

Posted by: WJM | November 28, 2009, 11:45 am 11:45 am

How funny. I guess Obama is going to have to get rid of a bunch of his cabinet and Czars.
Yeah, right…

Posted by: No more lies | November 28, 2009, 11:48 am 11:48 am

Guess who’s coming to Sarah Palin’s tea party? All the lobbyists that Obama kicked out of his administration. They are currently working to destroy Obama’s health care reform, because it threatens their interest. The public option will elminate their major source of bribery money,private for-profit insurance companies, and now they are threatening Obama with reprisals if he doesn’t let them rip off the public.
If you love lobbyists, fine. But if you believe in government by the people and not government by the lobbyists, log on to the White House website NOW – send obama a message of support. Namely that we want the lobbyists out. Obama is taking a courageous stand. We need to let Obama know that we’ve got his back.

Posted by: William Joseph Miller | November 28, 2009, 11:52 am 11:52 am

Bravo to the White House and Eisen. It’s about time that Lobbiest get curtailed> It’s that kind of power that these lobbiest use in changing laws in this country that in most cases help their special interest. It’s my belief that lobbiest have no business on these committees as well as in congress. Especially when they also involve our elected officials. The lobbiest have got out of control and have become such a strong power house in the Capital that they are in some instances writing the laws. Mr. President thank you for putting some boundries where it’s very much needed.

Posted by: Katie McClure | November 28, 2009, 11:57 am 11:57 am

Really? What a Joke!! Especially when the head of the Service Employee’s International Union has been the MOST FREQUENT visitor to the White House!!! This is a double standard White House!

Posted by: WhatAJoke! | November 28, 2009, 11:59 am 11:59 am

You mean we’re going to see a reduction in power by the hidden Oligarchy that has such financial control of America’s politicians, Wall Street, the media and much of the resources of world? Then I’m all for it. Go Obama. Watch your back bro!

Posted by: rich | November 28, 2009, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

I’ll believe that the lobbyists have been shown the door when Andy Stern no longer shows up on the White House visitors list.

Posted by: Brianna | November 28, 2009, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

The 13000 registered lobbyists already have inordinate influence over every aspect of the government. Elimating a few of them from inside the government “committees” hardly seems like a major affront to the lobbyists.
All I see is that they will have to divert more money into the political campaigns of the congress to get want they want.
If I could, I would ban all lobbying and limit “corporate visitors” only to open, recorded meetings. Way too much of our government is owned by these thieves and their congressional accomplices.

Posted by: moby | November 28, 2009, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

William Joseph Miller — thank you for the suggestion to send Obama a message. I just sent the White House my message of support. All too often, we forget that the President needs to hear from those of us who support his efforts. We know he is working hard to undo all the damage done by Bush & Cheney over the past 8 years. Funny how some people think 8 years of damage can be undone in under 8 months. I wonder how well they would do if they were President. They probably would be pretty frustrated to hear they weren’t doing a good job, or they weren’t producing results fast enough. I predict that it will take at least 8 years to turn this country around and get back SOME of what we had before Bush & Cheney’s reign of terror.

Posted by: dyed-in-the-wool-dem | November 28, 2009, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

These lobbyist are a result of our “capitalist” economy. It’s not really capitalist at all. Major multi-nations dominate entire industries. They wield more political power then many large nations. Until we enforce and develop stronger anti-trust laws this will continue. We need these laws to take back true capitalism.

Posted by: DemandSide | November 28, 2009, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Lobbyists have been the downfall of our system. They ensure that industry has more rights and power than we the people. I hope this administration does what is needed and greatly reduces their influence and power.

Posted by: Dan | November 28, 2009, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

They should just move the West Wing to the Willard.

Posted by: Nephron | November 28, 2009, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

Most Americans believe our elected officials are corrupt regardless of party lines…via lobbyists and so forth…continue the journey…

Posted by: phantomniter | November 28, 2009, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

It is time for those in government to stop selling out to special interests, at the expense of citizens.

Posted by: Rick McDaniel | November 28, 2009, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

You don’t have to worry about any campaign promises to be fulfilled , or any sort of sanctions as promised. The liar in chief will do nothing. The socialist in charge is taking the playbook from Cloward-Piven strategy at its finest. A total disaster.

Posted by: cfiman | November 28, 2009, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

If we wanted any type of change in this country we would have to start by getting rid of these parasites. They have allowed corporations to corrupt every facet of our lives, down to the food we eat and the air we breath. They have to be done away with by any means necessary.

Posted by: Jake | November 28, 2009, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

If this is true, why would I want to be a politician? I couldn’t become powerful or get rich. I’d have to actually be concerned about the good of American Citizens instead of myself and my connections. My narcissism will have to satisfied in other ways.

Posted by: rich | November 28, 2009, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

We just need freedom and liberty put back into the economy. The only way to do this seems to be to abolish the income tax so that centralized power has no way to manifest itself. I am actually starting to believe that there might be truth to the whole Bilderburg/Trilateral/CFR conspiracy in terms of controlling both our domestic and foreign policy.

Posted by: Huh | November 28, 2009, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

Quote article “The letter said “the sudden ejection of over 130 advisors from the system will depopulate many of the committees and instantly remove many voice from around the table.”"
Those removed voices have little to do with me or the rest of us “average” American citizens. Let them fade. It has been long known these people only serve special interests, or their own sense of power. They are only attempting to save their own jobs by spreading fear of some kind of trickle-down effect.
Washington would be better off without them. While technically legal (at this point), their existence defeats the intended meaning of the Constitution.
Good bye – Lobbyists, Corporate dogs, and those that would subvert the American way of life… and long live the American Citizen!

Posted by: Troy Street | November 28, 2009, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

And now that Acorn will be refunded by taxpayer dollars, you folks who elected this clown should be happy. Start the campaign early. The fraud in chief will love it.

Posted by: cfiman | November 28, 2009, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

More evidence that the change the President promised is happening. I laugh at all the “birther’s” and “tea-baggers” who like to preach fear and hate, and yet call themselves patriotic Americans. How patriotic can you be if you are comparing POTUS to Adolf Hitler? I was no fan of the previous admin, but I would NEVER compare nor condone any disrespect to the office of the Presidnet. Shameful of the Limbaugh party to behave and condone in such a racist manor. Bravo Mr. President. Keep going.

Posted by: Andy | November 28, 2009, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

When the WH gets rid of all the lobbyists it doesn’t approve of, only those of whom it approves will have access.

Posted by: MayBee | November 28, 2009, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

You mean we’re going to see a reduction in power by the hidden Oligarchy that has such financial control of America’s politicians, Wall Street, the media and much of the resources of world? Then I’m all for it. Go Obama. Watch your back bro!
Posted by: rich | Nov 28, 2009 12:10:00 PM………………Actually this current setup between the U.S. politicians, lobbyists, bankers, corporations, unions, world leaders etc. is the major condition that people consider as threat to their freedoms and survival.

Posted by: steve | November 28, 2009, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

It’s about time we reduce the power of the Washington lobbyists.
The USA can become a democracy again, where elected officials are responsible to the people, and not special interest groups.

Posted by: Bob Hobbs | November 28, 2009, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

Lobbying is fundamental to Democracy. It only corrupts to the extent that those being lobbied are predisposed to being corrupted.
Think Rahm Emanuel. Think David Axelrod. Think Tony Rezko. Think Barack Obama.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 28, 2009, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

why would Washington,,,EITHER party want to eliminate lobbyists?,,,they are the number one reason party politics can continue,,,they are the financial end of everything,,without them congress would have to get by on paltry wages.,,,”We the People” will NEVER be represented in government as long as the lobby dollar exists.lobbying is just the political version of prostitution for legislation.

Posted by: tincup56 | November 28, 2009, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

I applaud the administration for this move. This is the only way the government can become representational of all the people not just the monied few. Go for it Obama!!

Posted by: Jay | November 28, 2009, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

Im ok if we outlaw it, make the practice as criminal as its affect on our country has been.

Posted by: Dan | November 28, 2009, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

Say, how about the lobbyist group by some air time and make their case to the American people. I am interested to know what legislation they have endorsed and how much money they spend in Washington. I would also like to know what advisory boards and commissions they sit in on. A list of the interest groups that support the lobbists, made available online and maintained the association, would be nice as well. If a group, including congress, is going to spend taxpayer money on anything, the expenditure needs to be evident to the taxpayer. Yea, online would be a good thing.

Posted by: Richard | November 28, 2009, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

This is the only way the government can become representational of all the people not just the monied few. Go for it Obama!!
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Did you see the guest list for the State Dinner?
Obama has no trouble with the monied few, so long as they are *his* monied few.

Posted by: MayBee | November 28, 2009, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

The HUGE increase in lobbyists started with the Reagan administration. As he was telling the little people that the government shouldn’t help them, he was also making sure that the government would help his big friends.

Posted by: Sue | November 28, 2009, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

The right to petition the government is exercised to a great extent through lobbying.
The greater the size of government, and the more taxpayer money it dispenses, the more people will be attracted to the lobbying profession. No surprise there; it’s the way markets work. Increased demand calls forth additional supply.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 28, 2009, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

Then ban senate staff from going to the next senator. The new guys will have to dohomework. I might even vote democratic then.
Pat

Posted by: pat spencer | November 28, 2009, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Then ban senate staff from going to the next senator. The new guys will have to dohomework. I might even vote democratic then.
Pat

Posted by: pat spencer | November 28, 2009, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

corruption,corruption,corruption, is what Obama, Acorn, the service employies international union, Goerge Sorros and the rest of this bunch is all about. nothing will be done, just talked about and all you STILL kool-aid drinkers will be okay with it.

Posted by: Joemechanic | November 28, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

This is the only way the government can become representational of all the people not just the monied few. Go for it Obama!!
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Did you see the guest list for the State Dinner?
Obama has no trouble with the monied few, so long as they are *his* monied few.
Posted by: MayBee | Nov 28, 2009 2:39:39 PM
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MayBee you have apparently failed to grasp the concept of paid professional lobbyists and what it is they do . . .

Posted by: tierra | November 28, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

Now all that money will come against this administration in the general elections, make people mad at you and they will fight watch 2010 and 2012 could get nasty.

Posted by: earl | November 28, 2009, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

The notion that people who are lobbying government for their own benefit can, at the same time, advise the executive on what’s best for the country, is preposterous.
The president is doing the right thing, but I’ll be mightily surprised if he gets his way. For the benefit of American society, he should prevail.

Posted by: George Cortes | November 28, 2009, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

It’s not the lobbyists who have power — it’s the congresspeople. They choose to listen to lobbyists, and it is they who decide to take action based on their interactions with lobbyists. No one holds a gun to their head, and lobbyists aren’t capable of writing, sponsoring, or voting on bills. Who exactly is it who appoints these people to commissions and advisory boards? Who makes the choice to do that?
I think this is a good move on the part of the administration — it’s just too bad that it doesn’t remove the underlying moral and personal weakness that allowed things to get to this state.
My prediction: they will simply replace lobbyists with unions.

Posted by: Chiara | November 28, 2009, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

Lobbyist like animal rights,have money we as individuals can’t compete with. Chris Dodd senator said he couldn’t get enough votes to do anything about credit card companies gouging users, no wonder lobbyist put seven million dollars into his campaign coffer, he told reporter that didn’t buy them anything from him?
We vote them into office and the lobbyist buy them, The Washington Perk Kings are for sale, come home and tell us how great they are.

Posted by: THWTCO | November 28, 2009, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

I seem to remember that when Senator Obama was campaigning, He told the American public that there would be NO lobbyist allowed in the White House, or allowed to influence any of the Cabinet members. However I bet my entire retirement check that it was lobbyist and senate staff that wrote the bills these politicians are voting on. We Americans need to force the politicians to be open and not work behind LOCKED and CLOSED DOORS. These politicians need to write their own work. Maybe if they did a bill would not be 2000+ pages long :-)

Posted by: Lara | November 28, 2009, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

I’m touched to find that lobbyists are offering the government so much of their knowledge and expertise out of the goodness of their hearts.

Posted by: Drew | November 28, 2009, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

President Obama nneds to remove all past and current lobbyists from the White House before he criticizes other agencies for using lobbyists.
He promised NO lobbyists would serve in his administration, but there ARE lobbyists serving in his administration.
He has failed to live up to one of his major campaign promises. An issue about which he took great pains to criticize then-President Bush.

Posted by: malcat | November 28, 2009, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

Blah Blah Blah ABC you can write your slanted view anyway you want…. this is a BS article… BO and his so-called transparent Administration ARE using and appointing lobbyist’s just as much as all other Democrat & Republican Administration’s have…….

Posted by: Vet1973 | November 28, 2009, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

This is one of those Clinton moments…. it DEPENDS on how you DEFINE “lobbyist”……. “Registered” is a key phrase…………. they like to hide behind…

Posted by: Vet1973 | November 28, 2009, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

I am utterly AMAZED at criticizm of Obama’s corruption, when in the last election, it was Obama vs. the leader of the “Keating 5″. You forget there were only 2 selections. You had Obama (happy in first marriage) against McCain (happily married to his mistress, ignoring his first family). No-one has said anything to make me unhappy about voting against a “Bush, look-alike”.

Posted by: liberty first | November 28, 2009, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

Hey FH think James Watt

Posted by: lopsidedlarry | November 28, 2009, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

Hey FH think Kenneth Lay. Think Skilling. Think Richard Cheney.

Posted by: lopsidedlarry | November 28, 2009, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

“BO and his so-called transparent administration ARE using and appointing lobbyist’s just as much as all other Democrat & Republican Administration’s have…..”
Count on a vet to set us straight. Thank you for your service to the country, sir.

Posted by: Barry Christmas | November 28, 2009, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

more to the point is the utterly corrupt practice of legislating to gain advantage for one’s spouse (Feinstein), political contributions (Frank, Dodd), pork (Landrieu), and on and on and on….
There is nothing inherently wrong with lobbying. There is with corrupt practices such as these.

Posted by: matt | November 28, 2009, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

These guys lobbied from unregistered positions. But we all know who they represented. I wonder what Darman and Sununnu are doing now. Teaching poly-sci somewhere? Somehow I’m willing to bet they’re lobbying for some slimeball in the world.

Posted by: lopsidedlarry | November 28, 2009, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

It is an obviously good idea to not have lobbyists on these committees that advise our government about the best way to do things. How could one of these lobbyists recommend something that would interfere with his customer’s profits even if that would be the best for the public good? Clearly, that conflict of interest makes lobbyists unable to give the best advice to our government.
This should clear up some of the corruption Washington is famous for.

Posted by: Lydia | November 28, 2009, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

So Matt is it your position that there’s nothing wrong with an Auto industry lobbyist asking a congressman to introduce a bill that finances his clients bankruptcy, but if the congressman abides the request, regardless of inducements, the congressman is the corrupt one and the lobbyist is the loyal public and/or private servant?

Posted by: lopsidedlarry | November 28, 2009, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

I’m more than happy to think Lay and Skilling, both of whom are crooks (although Lay’s conviction was vacated upon his death. Skilling is right where he belongs.
And I am extremely happy to think about Mr. Cheney, who has served his country well in both the public and private sectors, and continues to do so.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 28, 2009, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

Power is money and money is power. Big money has more representation than ordinary people. It’s time to march in the streets in support of Obama. It is going to take a revolution of sorts to defend the people from unbalanced corporate influence. Controlling lobbyists is a good place to start!

Posted by: Sentinel | November 28, 2009, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

And I am extremely happy to think about Mr. Cheney
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Mr. Halliburton – Mr. oil industry, Mr. military/industrial complex himself . . . Eisenhower would have been appalled.

Posted by: tierra | November 28, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm

So lopsided Larry is it your position that there’s nothing wrong with a congressman abiding by the improper requests of a lobbyist in return for personal or political gains for himself or his family, but if an Auto industry lobbyist asks a congressman to introduce a bill that finances his client’s bankruptcy, he is the corrupt one and the congressman is the loyal public and/or private servant?

Posted by: Chiara | November 28, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

Ah yes! The Kool Aid guy has been drinking so much of his own Kool Aid that he is immune to his own poison. And he borrowed the same language we used (and still use) concerning the incompetence and corruption of the Bush-Cheney administration (indeed, if you can actually call it “administration”)!

Posted by: Sentinel | November 28, 2009, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

If this is your thesis then BO is correct in that if you put a barrier between lobbyists and politicians you should get a net reduction in corrupt practices. Furthermore, if you would assert that both are equally to blame then once again, separating the two during legislative actions will lower the total number of corrupt acts of government.

Posted by: lopsidedlarry | November 28, 2009, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

Is this blog still active??

Posted by: Sentinel | November 28, 2009, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Good for you Barrack! I am proud of you good buddy! Let’s organize a demonstration in DC in support of this president and his initiatives!

Posted by: Sentinel | November 28, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

Everyone in this country who voluntarily uses petroleum products owes a debt of gratitude to Halliburton and Mr. Cheney. I am sure Ike would consider Cheney’s entire career to have been an admirable one, and certainly not one that contravened anything he had to say about the “military-industrial complex.”
It makes me deleriously happy to see the sputtering, impotent rage the zanies harbor toward this fine man. And I am happy for him that he has accumulated substantial wealth honestly and honorably.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 28, 2009, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

Get rid of the lobbyists! And it’s way past time to prosecute the REPUBLICAN CORRUPTION MACHINE!

Posted by: Sentinel | November 28, 2009, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

Nice try chiara. I might agree that the elected official is sworn to uphold the constitution therefore he is certainly culpable, but if the lobbyist is not under such constraints in his pursuits then his presence in the legislative process is at best superfluous.

Posted by: lopsidedlarry | November 28, 2009, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

Cheney is not a “fine man”. And he doesn’t know the meaning of “honest” or “decency”. The Bush-Cheney regime was (and still is) the most incompetent and corrupt administration is the history of the U.S. Bush-Cheney presided over the biggest economic crash in history – and ruined the lives and futures of millions of good, responsible Americans. That is something to be proud of? They caused political turmoil here and around the world – more to be proud of? To admire Bush-Cheney is the definition of true “insanity” itself! Good luck to the delusional and warped who are trying to rewrite the Bush-Cheney “legacy”. I mean,really – good luck with that one.

Posted by: Sentinel | November 28, 2009, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

Ok FH. Now you’re just being silly. So much so that even religious capitalists would laugh at you. Here’s a guy who never let little things like competitive bidding requirements stand in his way.And as a vice president he was an embarrassment. One of the worst since Agnew, but creative in his use of passive legislation. I hope Libby finally outs him at some point.

Posted by: lopsidedlarry | November 28, 2009, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

Yeah! I guess we should thank Cheney for producing all that Petroleum Jelly! Saved a lot if irritation and pain during the Bush-Cheney years. And we still need it – because the Bush-Cheney “legacy” is still with us.

Posted by: Sentinel | November 28, 2009, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

Lobbyist further contaminate the political system. Why limit them? Dump ‘em entirely.

Posted by: LadyintheDark | November 28, 2009, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

Get rid of ALL lobbyists !!

Posted by: CW | November 28, 2009, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

Um….hey white house. I’m using a phone.

Posted by: lopsidedlarry | November 28, 2009, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

“Here’s a guy who never let little things like competitive bidding requirements stand in his way.”
If you’re aware of any unlawful act committed by Mr. Cheney in connection with government contracts, now would be a good time for you either to identify it or adopt an embarrassed silence.
He did well by doing good. And the fact that he continues to enrage the zanies only makes the laughter more raucous.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 28, 2009, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

Obama practicing Acorn shake downs again…thistime instead of banks like Acorn loves to do its lobbyist. Pay Obama and his buds off, or you will banned from lobbying. However, as long as you pay tribute, Obama will show you appreciation.

Posted by: VeryPainfulTruth | November 28, 2009, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

I think it is time that BO made good on his promise early on in his presidency. We need to get rid of all of the lobbyists!! Its a disgrace!

Posted by: lovebugs | November 28, 2009, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

Oh brother…..the bots love of Obama is bizarre. Now they are claiming we should like Obama because of McCain..and big bad old McCain had a 2nd marriage. Well so did Reagan, and I miss Reagan and still despise the communist party ran by Obama with help from the nut party of Pelosi/Reid/Franks/Dodd.

Posted by: VeryPainfulTruth | November 28, 2009, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

I liked Cheney for two qualities that Obama doesn’t and never will have—-maturity and BRAINS. Obama is a big fool..a communist one to boot.

Posted by: VeryPainfulTruth | November 28, 2009, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

End the income tax. End property taxes. Audit the Federal Reserve. Allow the major players to fail when they are insolvent. These rats will always follow the money. Therefore you have to stop the gravy train. Relying on politicians to be moral will lead to great disappointment unless of course you support someone like a Ron Paul or a Ralph Nader.
VeryPainfulTruth – McCain sang a song about bombing Iran so he should have been disqualified for advocating terrorism against the Persian folk.

Posted by: Huh | November 28, 2009, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

Seems to me with the internet and mobile information that we no longer need the special services of the lobbyist. And that is making the giant leap of faith that lobbyist actually do more good than just for their own special interest, which recent history puts some serious doubt on. If politicians need an expert opinion there are plenty of places to get them – universities, town halls, private sector, etc. Lobbyists seems to me a bit like the unions – they were needed earlier in our history – now their effectiveness is over. What an interesting country this would be with ZERO lobbyists. Fascinating opportunity.

Posted by: 4californiagirl | November 28, 2009, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

Well, what else would you expect the sidekicks of the Republican National Socialist Party to say? Incompetence and corruption supports incompetence and corruption. Sickness begets sickness. Mental illness begets mental illness. It’s a “Deliverance” kind of thang! They like us to think they are “laughing”. Well maybe they are “laughing” – they do a lot of “laughing” in mental institutions you know – and in fascist organizations – it’s all one and the same. The stupid and demented think they are the “brainy” ones. But we know otherwise.

Posted by: Sentinel | November 28, 2009, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

Well ok FH despite directing 4 different members of the white house staff including a sitting SoS to lie before congress you’re right I can’t prove what I’m saying. But since he did it right out in front of everyone there’s no reason for me to remain silent. The truth is he had the benefit of working for a rather one dimensional president politically speaking, so he could make up his own policy as he went along. In the end the president had to send to some of the most out of the way places to keep him from embarrassing the office any further(say-oh-by shooting a member of the whitehouse staff in the ass).

Posted by: lopsidedlarry | November 28, 2009, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

Yaaaaaaaaaaa ABC and BO…. let’s do get rid of ALL lobbyists…. the Union’s lobbyists. the teachers lobbyists…… the ILLEGAL aliens lobbyists…. the AMA’s lobbyists….Al BORE who IS a lobbyist…. the NAACP’s lobbyist, the Hispanics lobbyists…. the Environmental lobbyists, the Green Energy Lobbyists, the Global Warming lobbyists….. …. etc etc etc etc etc etc……………. this IS a BS Administration…….. Getting lots of support from the bias Medias Lobbyist….

Posted by: Vet1973 | November 28, 2009, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

I liked Cheney for two qualities that Obama doesn’t and never will have—-maturity and BRAINS. Obama is a big fool..a communist one to boot.
Posted by: VeryPainfulTruth | Nov 28, 2009 8:32:15 PM
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Wow, you think this guy is a Republican spouting rhetoric or what.
Dude Cheney is a fascist sorry to burst you bubble. And as for maturity well, I think that Obama is far more mature than Bush and Cheney ever were and more intelligent but hey that most of the GOP talking points anymore are just that all talk and nothing more in fact what is their platform.
Oh yes, smaller government (that which only Bill Clinton was able to achieve a Democrat) and lets not forget lower taxes (of course they borrow from China like a drunken sailor on shore leave).
No thanks dude.

Posted by: Ant | November 28, 2009, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

Why don’t the Democrats put their VOTES where their sleazy mouths ARE…. BO has 100% control of the Government….. why doesn’t 100% Democratic controlled Congress outlaw ALL lobbyist……oh yeah…. they like all the sweet heart deals they get…. isn’t that right Senator Dodd

Posted by: Vet1973 | November 28, 2009, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

They all need to go! Lobbyist need to be put out of work!

Posted by: rightbehind | November 28, 2009, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

I don’t agree with everything you’re saying Huh, you go on. The spirits certainly there.

Posted by: lopsidedlarry | November 28, 2009, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

The lobbyist are simply trying to acquire funds that the income tax provides, the Fed’s money creation provides or creditors, especially those foreign ones, send to DC. With more job losses the income taxes are going way down just ask the broke states. Foreign creditors are starting to diversify away from the dollar. Thus the Fed will print gobs of money to fund the bloated mess. The lobbyist have to work extra hard for those dollars. Only way to stop it is to end the money train. Even if congress makes a law against lobbying, shady deals will continue at an ever-increasing rate. Cut off the money.

Posted by: Huh | November 28, 2009, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

They all need to go! Lobbyist need to be put out of work!
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Rightbehind, I believe I’m saying this for the first time, but I’ll say it loud and clear…………finally something we can agree on.

Posted by: malcat | November 28, 2009, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

Actually, all that’s really required is a constitutional amendment that requires ALL communication between lobbyists and sitting officials be done in writing, and prohibits any other forms of communication between them. All communications in writing should be considered in the public domain. The only other communications allowed should be testimony in public hearings.

Posted by: lopsidedlarry | November 28, 2009, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Fascist Hyena wrote: “Cheney…I am happy for him that he has accumulated substantial wealth honestly and honorably.”
When Cheney was president of Halliburton, the company used a loophole in merger laws to rob its middle-class workers of $25M from its pension fund because the company “needed the money”.
Almost immediately, the board of directors awarded Cheney a bonus $20M pension.
What kind of man, already very wealthy, would accept such a deal that threatened the pensions of his employees? In that case, did he “accumulate substantial wealth honestly and honorably”?

Posted by: The_Mick | November 28, 2009, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

Yes indeed. You can certainly hear those breaks squealing as the gravy train comes to a halt!

Posted by: Neocon means Neo-Confederate | November 28, 2009, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

If Mr. Cheney’s actions were improper, those who were injured financially were entitled to recover from him. They did not do so.
Hence we must conclude that the judicial system did not accept as true the characterization of his actions that has been suggested here.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 28, 2009, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

Thank you, Mr President for following through on this important campaign pledge.

Posted by: J Robinson | November 28, 2009, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

Not true at all FH. If there was not enough evidence against him then the judicial system may not have been petitioned. As I recall this evidenciary condition was rather common at that time what with all the conservative judiciary stacking that was performed by Reagan/Bush.

Posted by: lopsidedlarry | November 28, 2009, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

“There will be no lobbyists…….”
Breathtaking, Obama, you liar. Breath-
taking. Time for a Frank Rich essay
on why lobbyists are a GOOD institution
and why being angry at Obama is the
sign of a sick mind.

Posted by: grizzlybare | November 28, 2009, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

To the Americans
The USA of america is currently occupying a very detrimental, incredible, too far place
with their health care program.The 35th place among’s other countries.
We ‘re talking about, a falling, desastrous spot for the most powerful nation in
the world.The riches country on earth, the nation that governs the world’s economy, and the
country that possesse’s an enourmous, most scientifics advancements.
After their glorious revolution, the country that heads the must conscious and all out
with and for the people health care program, is France. This can really make France the land of FREEDOMS!
There are 40 millions of people in the United States of America without health care insurance.
It is a big worry and shameful that USA, a world’s leader country, and model in many other areas,
occupies a much too far 35th spot, in something, so hightly important, like sanitary condition
to the American people. Two years ago USA surpassed the 300 million population.
During the Democratic campaign to elect the democratic candidate. And then,while the campaign
to elect the president of the USA today, President elected Barak Obama, president of all blacks and whites,
promised that He will fix the pathetic, absurd and shameful health care situation to the most poweful nation on earth.
Remembering the elections of 1932,the promises made by the great Franklin Delano Roosevelt, which helped Him win
over his repubican opponent seeking re-election, Herber Hoover, elected in 1928.
The formidable FDR, spoke about how He will do to recuperate from the great Depression of 1929.
He spoke about how, the new social-economical pact ,the “new deal”, will help to take the necessary messure to get the USA
out the critical, economical,social, political ,sociological and moral crisis.
He made it happened! he made it happened because they were not faked electoral promises, neither solutions with no basis.
He accomplished it because He believed in himself, in his promises. He was very conscious that giving the value to his decision,
he could carried on, taking it to the very end in solving the problem.He had faith in himself, countrymen and the mayority that
supported him!
So, the same has done his democratic disciple,liberal, conscious,responsable,serious,courageous with the disposition to face and stop
great, powerful and dangerous interests that opposed the plans of Barak Obama which includes, to bring about protection to his country,
mainly to those that have been sidestepped,ignored,fenced, mistreated and excluded.
President OBAMA got another triumph.Another win from a just man, courageous and decisive!
santiago Coste D.R.

Posted by: santiago vidal | November 28, 2009, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

The problem with banning all lobbyists is that our members of Congress might have to think for themselves. Scary thought! My hope is that we someday ban all lobbyists whether from the ACLU, AARP to the Chamber of Commerce and other insurance and prescription drug industry groups. All that lobbyists buy is access to our supposed representatives. If our legislation is too complicated for our legislators to understand without the help of lobbyists we either need smarter legislators or simpler laws.

Posted by: gerry mcgill | November 28, 2009, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

I’ve always believed that lobbying should be outlawed or at least greatly restricted. Their big money operations are NOT in the best interests of the American people. Thanks to President Obama for taking some action.

Posted by: jmb | November 28, 2009, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

Get rid of them!

Posted by: rightbehind | November 28, 2009, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

It’s a long, slow, agonizing death, but change is comming to Washington! Bear with it

Posted by: Tom | November 29, 2009, 1:01 am 1:01 am

Thank you, Mr President for following through on this important campaign pledge.
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There is a lot to be weeded out, but the President has made a strong start.
Vote the Republicans back into office (heaven forbid) and we’d be right back into the thick of the nest of lobbyists – with Cheney setting the example as the prime roast pig.

Posted by: tierra | November 29, 2009, 1:04 am 1:04 am

lopsidedlarry, to responses like yours we say in Italian “non ha senso.”

Posted by: Chiara | November 29, 2009, 2:42 am 2:42 am

“Lobbyist”…I hope it’s only a current thing, and not a trend. VOTERS should influence this nations government, not business.

Posted by: Deborah | November 29, 2009, 4:24 am 4:24 am

Ant, I saw your post above, and while not disagreeing with some of it, I have to ask you,..How is President Obama more mature than george Bush? I’m not a Bush fan, but your post made me wonder about your answer. It sounded like a repetition of what we always hear.

Posted by: Deborah | November 29, 2009, 4:31 am 4:31 am

If I were a recent university grad, with my “Poly-Sci” degree in hand, knowing what I know, today, I’d head straight for “K” Street, where the money and power is!!! ~ The opportunities there are AWESOME!!!

Posted by: Arbuckle Doc | November 29, 2009, 4:31 am 4:31 am

Deborah – “Lobbyist”…I hope it’s only a current thing, and not a trend. VOTERS should influence this nations government, not business.***R U SERIOUS!? Lobbyists have been running the world since the beginning of time before gov ever existed. They tell the clueless what they need to know in order to pass regs that help corp USA stay profitable. “if i want your opinion, i’ll give it to you” sums up the relationship between lobbyist and elected official.

Posted by: ..... | November 29, 2009, 6:33 am 6:33 am

Lobbyists are worth their weight in radioactive waste, they are one of the reasons why America is ruled by corporations rather than by the people, they are the seeds of corruption, if it were up to me, lobbyists would need to find another career, perhaps honey dipping would be appropriate.

Posted by: Shawn Irwin | November 29, 2009, 6:50 am 6:50 am

Finally, this is a real sign of progess. I hope the momentum gains traction.

Posted by: Danny | November 29, 2009, 7:00 am 7:00 am

Its about time bloodsucking lobbyists get tossed. Our financial securities have been threatened far too long by this self replicating den of thieves. After purging them go for Wall St. greeders. Instead of building a border fence along mexico we should build one long continuous prison and have our own Great Wall. Doors on both sides would solve two problems at once.

Posted by: Umaguma | November 29, 2009, 7:27 am 7:27 am

You can’t blame businesses for hiring lobbyists. Lobbyists aren’t a luxury for megacorporations anymore. They’re essential to smaller industries too.
But you can prevent them from sitting on advisory panels in government positions. That’s an absurdity.
What, after all, does a lobbyist do? He (or a beautiful young she) bribes the legislator by wining and dining him, or else feeds him one-sided information that will promote the company.
A good lobbyist makes $300K. Many are ex-congressmen or senators or aides and have personal connections. Boeing has a revolving door policy with the Pentagon. The employees simply move back and forth at will.
Better to elect someone who knows something about governance and economics but who has no ties to business in the first place. Even a little ignorance and self-teaching is better than the openly corrupt system now in place.

Posted by: Robert Maxwell | November 29, 2009, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

let’s get rid of them and find some kind of honest work for them to do.

Posted by: justsane | November 29, 2009, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

I thought Obama was going to change all that?

Posted by: LongT | November 29, 2009, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

The Administration has said “We won’t hire registered lobbyists (with some exceptions)”, so many lobbyists deregistered. Now it says we don’t want registered lobbyists on Federal advisory boards because they will give advice based on their self-interest. The Administration says they should be replaced by business owners who (a)apparently are saints because they have no self-interest and (b) just happen to be the folks who are major campaign contributors to the Administration. The demonizing of lobbyists has taken hypocrisy to new depths.
[a registered lobbyist who is not on any FAC]
Howard Marlowe

Posted by: Howard Marlowe | November 29, 2009, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

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