McCain Targets Ben Nelson on Health Care Vote

Did Mccain outpace Baucus?

The transformation of John McCain into a right-wing partisan is now complete. The “original maverick would never have done something so callous and pandering as this.

If they do not get the 60 votes to proceed tomorrow the bill is dead. If they get the votes to proceed then you know the dems would only need 51 votes
Samantha | Nov 20, 2009 8:58:52 PM
You are wrong. This vote is FOR DEBATE ONLY. The Republicans will also filibuster the call for a vote following debate and amendments, which occurs AFTER debate.
I guess this is how Republicans can get away with filibustering even discussing, debating, and amending the bill – their base is flat out too ignorant to understand what they are doing. This is the Republicans chance to highlight specifically the shortcomings of the bill and officially go on record with alternatives and amendments – yet they are filibustering it.

I say we get all democrats that will to commit to single payer now. Let the 2010 elections happen and hopefully we send more republican senators packing. They loose 4 more seats and even the republicrats will be abandoning them. Be nice to get rid of some of them to. We come back with single payer in 2011.

jhw539:I agree with you I would like to see them debate the bill to find out why they are spending 100 million dollars of tax payers money to pay off Senator Landrieu from Louisiana for a disaster stipulation in the bill that had to say within the last seven years so they could use Katrina. And what does a diaster have to do with a health care bill and if it does then why are states like California and North Dakota who had disasters are not also receiving these funds?

I Love MaCain & Palin. I respect them both for putting America First. Already sent a message to my states Senators, More than Happy to Oblige & did my part with Nelson too.
No On This Irressponsible HealthCare for Americans, The Congress Should Have To Buy Into It Too!!!!!

So why do we want to stop this bill in its tracks? Currently there is no monopoly on health care. If the government puts itself at the head of health care then it can dictate to the industry as a whole. A monopoly sets the pricing, service level, and distribution of services. Ideally health care should be fairly and justly administered to all Americans regardless of age, gender, race, religion, or political affiliation. Unfortunately the government’s track record of pork, favors, and corruption trump any hope of a fair and just administration of health care. I’m for health care for all Americans. But there is no rational reason to conclude that the government won’t exploit it in favor of political or personal agendas. The government should never have control of services or industries. Once it has that control then laws and enforcement shift to protecting its own political agendas and bureaucratic wealth. There are reason why Kings and Czars have been overthrown by their people. Must we ignore history? Let’s not go down that road with this bill.

Let the financial giants run amok. Spend billions for war profiteers. The republicans love America….they don’t give a damn for its people….the pain of the working class is their gain…it is and always will be….McCain proves this. A child of a naval aristocracy whose incompetence as a naval pilot would never have been tolerated by any other man ended in the death and imprisonment of his fellows….this is just an extension of his style

You lost the presidency and now you are working at losing your Senate seat .How can you not even let this get on the floor foe debate . I use to like you McCain,but you are really pushing my patience with your trying to kill millions of Americans by stopping this bill! I thought you would one to come over and at least open this up for debate . You lost my vote, that is for sure!!!!!

When people complain that government run health care will cost more than private, for-profit run health care, why is Medicare ever brought up. The government pays private insurance companies 14% MORE for the allowed private alternatives to Medicare B than it costs the government to run standard Medicare B itself. When people scream that this bill will cost Medicare $500B, they neglect to say that the only reduction is in that 14% differential – the government would now pay private companies the same as it costs the government to do it itself. If that means a reduction in services, that means private, for-profit companies are LESS efficient than government.
And if that isn’t an indictment on for-profit health insurance I don’t know what is. Even big-time free-enterprise Japan, with a higher percentage of private medical facilities than us and NO government health insurance, doesn’t allow for-profit private insurance. They know it’s pure lunacy to put health costs and networks in the hands of people whose jobs depends on greater numbers of health problems and higher costs. In Japan, the national single network decided to pay only $80 per MRI vs an avg. $1200 in the USA. As a result, companies made less expensive MRI machines and the average Japanese is twice as likely as us to get one. But the U.S. insurance companies take a hit on their piece of the pie if prices drop. That’s why other countries have banned for-profit health insurance except for supplemental policies.

George D – Can we really affort to have any party in control of our health care? Your point is exactly why the government should never have a monopoly on health care. The governments track record is an ominous forboding of how something so important as health care will end up. Having a government monopoly of health care results in laws and enforcement being shifted to protect party agendas and their bureaucratic wealth. This congress and administration can’t even get the stimulous clear of fraud and missinformation. And now they are listening to organizations that diminish the health concerns of women. Too many are ignoring history and it shows that women are the first victims of governments that dictate to their people.

The indictment on for-profit health insurance is this. Private insurance is to compete in a world based upon laws and regulations. If those making the laws and regulations fail in their role then some private insurance companies will push the envelope on what they can squeeze out of their clients. What we have is a failure of legislators to legislate on behalf of the people that they are elected to server. But rather than pass good laws that squeeze out the fraud and abuse; the legislators are trying to take control of free enterprise so that they can set laws that fit to their political agendas and stimulate their bureaucratic wealth. The role of government is to set just laws so that free enterprise can thrive while meeting its obligations to all Americans. What we don’t need is the government to take control of free enterprise and pollute it with the politicians greed and their political cronies.

Sen. McCain can START by giving up HIS taxpayer subsidized healthcare plan!!

“As money has in the past ministered to personal and family need, so in the future it must minister to group and world need. The time has now come when money must be re-valued and its usefulness channelled into new directions. The voice of the people must prevail, but it must be a people educated in the true values, in the significance of a right culture, and in the need for right human relations. It is therefore essentially a question of right education and correct training in world citizenship – a thing that has not yet been undertaken.” [Money, The Medium of Loving Distribution, A Compilation from the books of Alice A Bailey ]
It makes no good sense for anyone to oppose healthcare reform. It seems some are more worried about Insurance Companies being crowded out due to competition and lower costs than the Health of the people, some who will surely die. Some are more concerned for the bottomline of the Insurance Companies than the small businesses (who they Pretend to care about) who have to pay high premiums for their employees, some to offer no health insurance, or forcing some out of business and/or some to set up shop elsewhere other than the United States! There is another lie circulating that small businesses will be forced to offer health insurance for their employees, this is not true, but employees will have the option to buy their own affordable healthcare from a public option! It is a fact that all other Industrial Countries have universal healthcare for their citizens and at the same time much lower healthcare expenses.
It is too bad that we have a certain group — the Party of No and Fear — who are Advocates of Can’t, Won’t, Shouldn’t, Distortion, Fear, Hatred and Divisiveness. They are a dark group, a bitter group, concerned only for Corporate Greed and corporate Profit, who do not believe that government can work because they do not want it to work! For too long we have been spoon-fed a bunch of lies and fears by these powers who want to immobilize us, paralyze us and confuse us and to keep us circling the Yellow Brick Road!
It is a sad fact that the Afghanistan War is also a false war and a false choice. These terrorists do not stay in one place or in one country, they are all over. We are not at war with any one country, this is a fallacy. WE are in a “struggle” with an ideology, yes or evil, yes, but we are not at war with any country. Since, we have terrorists in our own country who are not Muslims, does this make us at war with the United States? And why do we have so many crises in this country that go unsolved?
OH, if we only had a Brain….., Courage….., Heart/LOVE!

McCain need only mind about HIS vote. Leave the others to mind theirs!

you know that link to the email works both way…i just sent sen. nelson a message asking him to vote for the bill! just because you are not a voter in his state, doesn’t mean his vote doesn’t matter to you!

$100 Million 1, $100 Million 2, $100 Million 3!!!!! SOLD!!!! The citizens of this country and their future is sold to Ms. Landrieu for 100 Million dollars!!!
Why dont all you Democrats reply about this naked selling of our democracy for 100 Million dollars. When Obama said that we want change is this what he was talking about?

This Health Care bill is so bad it has no merit to even have the time wasted on it. McCain is Right.

John made himself look bad today..
the Republicans have had plenty of time in the last 20-25 years to come up with a soluution to Healthcare, they chosed to ignore the situation…We will not ignore it anymore. We will take care of the situation and Revamp Healthcare
in 2009

Didn’t work! Better luck next time Uncle Fester!!

i think its funny that the health care lobby dares to say mcain owes them. if i had 900,000 could i donte it and by a senator? that just shows how injust our system is becoming and that its becoming a battle of a couple of rich health care companies and the amirican peaple. i hope sen. ben nelson can do whats right for the peaple of amirica and ignore all the big buisness propaganda that mcain has either bought into or sold out to.