Monday Morning Pop Quiz—Health Care

Now that they have the bill on the floor, why not vote to strike the bill and go full single payer through reconciliation?? They have the votes to do it and it would be fun to see all the repubs heads explode at once!!

the saddest thing is the voters are not interested in passing this bill and yet that is not even considered an obstacle.

The toughest issue to solve is not even being asked.How can you put 31 million uninsured on Health Care and cut cost?
The Democrats new entitlements just a ploy to buy votes is shameful.

Georgie, always the spin.
1)The biggest issue of this second round of pork for the unions (aka Obamacare) is it’s constitutionality.
Get serious and stop shilling, you are supposed to be a “journalist” now.
2) Olympia Snowe will become radioactive, but she will not care as she will be looked after when she is run out of office for her overall voting record. Her vote will be the most controversial.
3) Nothing will prevent passage. Landreiu already admitted to a 300 million dollar payoff for her vote.
This bunch of nuts will stop at nothing to push thier agenda.
The media types like George just help with the propaganda.

I’d say it’s the Republican party who will be resistant and obstinate to anything the Democrats back. Or, maybe it’s because no one in either party has yet to read the entire bill. That’s the REAL kicker here; how can ANYONE agree or disagree – or preach about the good or the evils – if they don’t even know what it says??? Get off your well-paid, well-compensated (oh, yeah, with excellent health care available) behinds and get to work. Read the darn bill and then come back and tell me why I should be for or against it!!

B. Abortion funding will attract more Democratic opposition than either of the alternatives
C. Olympia Snowe would have the toughest time voting ‘yes’
C. Once the current ‘reform’ effort dies, a second stimulus is likely to pass.
The reason the current reform won’t pass is that it’s built on lies–
– 47,000,000 American citizens in crisis
– 44,000 die each year because they have no insurance
– government can insure 47,000,000 without increasing debt
People see thru these things pretty easily.
Obama has angered seniors by allowing consideration of $500,000,000 in Medicare cuts, and they won’t soon forget it.
They aren’t too excited about ‘Death counseling’ and the implication of subtle coercion to die either.
The Democrats would be smart to nominate someone else in 2012.

Did anyone watch 60 Minutes last night. We are digging ourselves a deeper hole. We need to make big changes involving hard choices and prioritize spending before we can add another layer.
We need leadership and responsibility, not politics.

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Hey “The_Mick”, A few issues with your post… First, promoting the general welfare doesn’t mean taking the liberty and freedom of the citizen to grow government. In fact, this is exactly the opposite of promoting the general welfare. Secondly, you said that the Constitution does not prohibit government run healthcare. Actually, since it is not mentioned in the Constitution, by default, it is up to the individual states. Anything not explicitly laid out in the Constitution is up to individual states to decide. BTW, you are not required to carry collision insurance on your car, only liability which protects others. Using your example, we should only have to carry insurance for ourselves to pay for damages we cause to others…so if you punch someone in the face and they sue you, your insurance would cover your stupid actions.

“If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare,
and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare,they may take the care of religion into their own hands;
they may appoint teachers in every State, county and parish and pay them out of their public treasury; they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union; they may assume the provision of the poor; they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post-roads; in short, every thing, from the highest object of state legislation down to the most minute object of police, would be thrown under the power of Congress…. Were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for, it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature of the limited Government established by the people of America.” James Madison
–Translation, if General Welfare is open to interpretation of satisfying every whim of ‘public good’ then the rest of the Constitution is bunk.

Question 1: Toughest Issue to Solve?
c) Surtax v Cadillac Tax
Many middle class, and Union labor groups, trade raises and bonuses for their workers for robust insurance policies for themselves. This would hit Middle Income America very hard and, even above the ideology regarding abortion or the public option, would make passing the Senate bill very difficult, if not impossible.
Question 2: Senator Who Will Have to Swallow Hardest to Vote Yes?
I would say the the 35-40 far left Democrates, entirely, will have to swallow hardest. To get any moderates some form of “stupak amendement” will most likely be added into the bill at some point. Additionally there is no chance for a robust puplic option. “Medicare for everyone” isn’t going to happen in the Senate, and it couldn’t get past the House even. That idea is a dead one.
Question 3: Outside Issue Most Likely to Imperil Passage
b.) Debt Limit Extension
There is a large swath of America that are very concerned with growing debt and proposed entitlement programs that either have not stated way to pay for them (200+billion for doctors to adjust their payment scales through medicare among others)or have large taxes levied against almost the entire population.

Everybody (Liberals) keep saying what equates to having Insurance on my Automobile. Sure, I’ll go along with that. BUT, There’s nothing that says I have to have a Car! No car=No insurance!
Let Keith O. chew on that without choking (read in in Newsmax).

***Where is the 1-3 million promised to Mary Landrieu coming from? I bet you can say taxpayers.***
Actually it started as a story about 100 million, and grew to 300 million when Landrieu confirmed it recently.
300 million for one vote isn’t too bad, though. Its only 158 billion to get every member of congress.
Its not like they haven’t spent money on less worthy causes this year already.

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But that does not come close to the REAL hurdle to cross…ONLY 38% of us can support this! Especially at this time of huge unemployment numbers. So why doesn’t BO & Co get it?….still stuck in campaign mode…never ran a business…and just not caring what you and I really think!

Honestly, the biggest hurdle to overcome in the health care bill is the public option. I still think this bill needs to e passed. When a family member cannot get a second scan after their first showed a “dense mass” because it costs way too much, that’s a problem. And the middle class can expect some taxes, but if you look into it, the upper class will get the bulk, and that’s a nice change from the last eight years we had with President Bush.

“Our Fathers Brought Forth On This Continent, A New Nation, Conceived In Liberity…” Not Concieved in Outlandish Debt.
“All Men Are Created Equal.” Therefore Congress Should Also Take The Same HealthCare They Want To Give Us!

It does not make sense for me to refer to this latest and furthered version of a bill because it will never pass in anything remotely resembling its present form. I say that most decisively.Not too long ago most of our legislatures pushed it with out reading it and today I would hazard a guess that only a handful of Americans would even have a reason to understand its repercussions. Some uninformed souls see universal health care as a free amusement park ride and believe me it is not. As for the vote buying, I have been a political worker in one way or the other as a Republican and as a young man was employed by the Lou Harris Poll in Rockefeller Center, NYC. I am what is called a political hack or junkie.What they did is regular stuff, vote buying, just hideous to do when people are losing their homes. If a bill comes through with a trigger or public option, Americans who right now cannot keep up with the bills and are in debt might wind up in a government motel or a tent city. The doctors will leave.Witness as a microcosm what is going on now in Puerto Rico.