NOW Official: Abortion-Rights Groups ‘Extremely Disappointed’ in Pelosi; Will ‘Absolutely’ be Tracking Final Vote
ABC News’ Rick Klein reports: Abortion-rights groups say they were blindsided by the last-minute deal that wound up adding new abortion restrictions in the health care bill — and are serving notice that they won’t let that happen again. On ABCNews.com’s “Top Line” today, Erin Matson, action vice president of the National Organization for Women, said the fact that Rep. Bart Stupak’s, D-Mich., amendment came to the House floor “came as a shock” to her group and others. “Frankly, everyone was stunned by this,” Matson said. “We did not expect this would be part of the health care bill. We had been mobilizing our members for weeks and weeks in advance to try and stop this, and all of a sudden in lands in the bill.” She added: “I don’t think we consider Nancy Pelosi an anti-choice Democrat, but we’re extremely disappointed that this went to the floor.” Asked if — if the Stupak amendment is in the final version — the health care bill will be part of NOW’s annual “scoring” of how members of Congress vote on abortion-related legislation, Matson was unequivocal, as well as graphic: “Well, absolutely. But you know what? I’m not concerned about Blue Dog Democrats or other Democrats. What I’m really concerned about are women are college campuses who are missing their periods.” Matson also pushed back against former President Bill Clinton’s contention — as articulated yesterday in a meeting with Democratic senators — that “the worst thing we can do is nothing.” “I do not agree with that at all,” she said. “The notion that we should sacrifice our rights as women for the greater good is absolutely a false choice.” Yesterday, NOW President Terry O’Neill told ABC’s Jake Tapper that the House-passed bill would “achieve that goal [of passing health care reform] by pushing women back into the back alleys to die.” (O’Neill was originally scheduled to be our guest on “Top Line,” but she was unable to join because of a meeting at the White House with Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.) Matson said NOW and others need to make their case quickly because “things are moving at an incredibly fast clip right now.” “I’m 29,” she said. “I never thought I would make a sign that says, ‘my body, my money, my choice.’ What we have for the first time is an attempt to bar women from using their own private funds, with private insurance companies, from accessing abortion.” Watch the full interview with Erin Matson HERE. We also checked in with Christina Bellantoni of Talking Points Memo about how Senate leaders are sorting out complicated abortion and health care politics, and about grass-roots efforts to press members of Congress into action.
You can watch the discussion with Christina Bellantoni HERE.
We also played a piece of the latest “Subway Series” interview conducted by ABC’s Jonathan Karl, where Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., suggests he’d be willing to join a GOP filibuster of a bill that looks like the one passed by the House. You can watch the full segment with Sen. Nelson HERE.
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What a BS article. People who are oppose to murdering their child should NOT fund your choice to do so. Spend your own money for this Vile act. I dont want anyone to pay for something they oppose. Murder is your choice and your money.
Posted by: cameronspeaks | November 11, 2009, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
The Dems, mostly Pelosi and Obama, incompetence with this matter is shocking. Words matter in legislation and shoving something through out of fear of losing power is unacceptable. NOW is right to be disappointed. Good for them for speaking out.
Posted by: Lila | November 11, 2009, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Let Planned Parenthood supplement peoples
choices to have abortions or better yet,
all of you who think abortions are a good
thing should have a telethon and raise
money for this. For you true believers,
put your money where your mouth is.
Posted by: wis134 | November 11, 2009, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
CAMERONSPEAKS I AS A INDEPENDENT MODERATE VOTER I AM PRO-CHOICE BUT IN NO WAY I SUPPORT THIS BILL OR ANY BILL THAT SAYS MY MONEY WILL GO TO ANYONE FOR A ABORTION AND ALL MY PRO-CHOICE FRIENDS FEEL THE SAME.
Posted by: natale from mass. | November 11, 2009, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
My tax money went to Wars I was against that killed thousands and will cost trillions. Are those born breathing thinking loved people who left devastated families less valuable? Bailouts and many more things I’m morally against giving my tax money to, including giving your evil religious corporations tax breaks, so quit your whining.
Posted by: Lila | November 11, 2009, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
I cannot believe half this country still supports Obama and his cronies. These people have to be sitting at home living off the government which is basically living off everyone elses hard work! Anyone who is unemployed and wants to work has to know by now Obama doesn’t care about creating jobs. He wants everyone dependent on government.I am still so mad about the way he dicrespected the soldiers killed at Fort Hood ie: his little shout out, reading completely off script, no emotion. It’s a discrace. Thank you this Veterans Day to all our armed forces and vets! No Obamacare…They already messed up the H1N1 vacine…Speak out America
Posted by: cookiemnst | November 11, 2009, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
LILA, YOUR EVIL RELIGIOUS CORPORATIONS SORRY I DONT OWN A CORPORATION OH BUT THEN I WASNT THE ONE WHO GAVE THEM A BAILOUT AM I THE DEM AND REP DID LISTEN ALSO IF YOU WANT TO LAY DOWN AND DO THE NASTY THEN YOU PAY FOR THE ABORTION OH THATS RIGHT THEIRS THIS FUNNY LITTLE THING CALLED CONTRACEPTIVES PILL,CONDOM TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS INSTEAD OF RELYING ON THE REST OF US.
Posted by: natale from mass. | November 11, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
NOW has wasted so much time and money on lesbians and third-world problems, and failed to protect abortion rights. They weren’t caught off guard on this one, or when they supported Obama over Hillary in the primaries. Unbelievable idiocy!
Posted by: tina | November 11, 2009, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
What do you think all the churches are run like? CEOs are criticized for their lavish lifestyles, ever see the way these church leaders live? Worse they don’t pay taxes!! Oh by the way, if your not even smart enough to unlock your cap lock button, please do the world a favor and take your own advice, use contraceptives and don’t reproduce.
Posted by: Lila | November 11, 2009, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Guess they will have to keep their pants on now.
Posted by: VEC | November 11, 2009, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
lila happily married 20 years and going strong whats the matter with you poor liberals cant handle it to sressful for ya leogorky yes i am judge and jury when i have to take care of a bunch of dead beat losers like yourselves.
Posted by: natale from mass. | November 11, 2009, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Spend the money on Birth Control, not Murder. If they are in college or anywhere else they can spend the $ for birth control or do what the rest of the responsible people do: take the responsibility. And yes, I know from what I speak as a 19 year old unmarried pregnant girl. I’m 52 now and paid the price over and over. Pro Choice BEFORE Pro Life AFTER conception.
Posted by: kab4usa | November 11, 2009, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
I’ve been happily married for years and I’m originally from Newton. The probability that you pay more taxes than me is very unlikely. See, I’m more inclined to believe people who want to stick their nose into everyone’s else business are the real dead beats, because they seem to have WAY too much time on their hands.
Posted by: Lila | November 11, 2009, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
To the government: Mind your own business.
To the Catholic bishops who are still butting into something that they will NEVER do: Mind your own business.
To the conservatives who still think that women belong at home barefoot and pregnant: Mind your own business.
To the anti-choice people posting here: Mind your own business.
Our bodies, our choices, our OWN business.
Posted by: Veronica | November 11, 2009, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
I am pro choice,I don’t like abortion but I am sure everyone who is anti abortion won’t whine when their taxes go up to support the thousands of children and their mothers that will go into the welfare system, food stamps, health care schooling etc. The wealthy women will go elsewhere to have their abortions. If you believe in retribution from God let Him be their judge, I am tired of old white men especially telling women what to do with their bodies
Posted by: irene | November 11, 2009, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
I can’t believe that this is happening in this country who exports democracy in other nation but women in their own country don’t have right to what to do with their life.
Posted by: uma | November 11, 2009, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
This witch Nancy calls herself a CATHOLIC,where is the church on this woman.She is a demon from hell.As for her boss he is beyond saving.
Posted by: Joeray | November 11, 2009, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Wmmen have the right to do with their body as they please, they just don’t have the right to have others pay for it. Let’s be clear here.
Posted by: LongT | November 11, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
First of all this amendment has NOTHING to with restricting abortion. The people at NOW are liars. If you want to have an abortion go ahead, but you should pay for it. If you decide to keep you baby go ahead, but you should pay for it. I believe a woman should have the choice but the woman should also pay for the consequences of that choice NOT ME. No federal dollars should go to abortion.
Posted by: Libertarian | November 11, 2009, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
“”Posted by: Veronica | Nov 11, 2009 5:42:03 PM To the government: Mind your own business.”" If it wasn’t for the GOVERNMENT, women would not be able to abort their unborn babies. Do they still need to “mind their own business”?
Posted by: d | November 11, 2009, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
Basically, there is a small amount of insurance companies that allow abortions in SOME cases. Women today have the option to buy that insurance. They won’t with this amend. Don’t forget, WE ARE ALL BUYING OUR OWN INSURANCE, it’s not free. We can only BUY Gov approved insurance with available procedures that are political driven choices evidently. Can’t wait to see the next Republican president not allow procedures that involve stem cell research. Wonder if people will be making the same arguments.
Posted by: Grover | November 11, 2009, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
They need to get in the back of the line because there are a whole lot of people that were ahead of you that want her botox face out of office!
Posted by: james | November 11, 2009, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
My tax money went to Wars I was against that killed thousands and will cost trillions. Are those born breathing thinking loved people who left devastated families less valuable? Bailouts and many more things I’m morally against giving my tax money to, including giving your evil religious corporations tax breaks, so quit your whining.
Posted by: Lila
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I can see ONE difference between paying for the war on terror and paying for abortions.
Rightly or wrongly,.. and I know you believe wrongly…, troops were sent to Iraq and Afghanistan to protect American citizens from terrorists.
On that same note, how many unborn children committed terrorist acts?
Posted by: marco | November 11, 2009, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
A fetus is not the mother’s body, therefore not the mother’s choice. A fetus is a separate person,it can even have a different blood type from the mother.
Abortion is worse than slavery. People think its ok to treat a developing human like property or baggage. It’s not; it’s a person, a very small person albeit, but a person nonetheless.
Posted by: ninek | November 11, 2009, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
“how many unborn children committed terrorist acts” LOL. The unborn are unborn, they can’t commit any acts, terrorist or otherwise! What a ridiculous comment.
Posted by: Dom | November 11, 2009, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
I am pro-choice even though I prefer there is a guaranteed way to avoid unwanted pregnancies instead of resorting to abortions. i.e. some kind of magic pill (without side effects) to be given to a girl (don’t mean to show any gender bias here) right after puberty which would ensure that the girl will NEVER become pregnant UNLESS she takes another anti-pill (at the time of her choosing). This is a wish and hopefully science will get us there one day.
With regards to funding the abortions with tax dollars, if you are currently taking health care through an insurance company and if that insurance company is covering the cost of abortions, then guess what! you are already funding abortions today. I need to do research on how many insurance companies are NOT covering abortions, but if all of them are covering, then I do NOT see any difference between public option covering abortions vs insurance companies covering them.
Posted by: indliberal | November 11, 2009, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Abortion has been around since the beginning of time and it will always be here. Get over it! Women were once fetuses too and have a heartbeat. Maybe you wouldn’t hate them so much if you thought it that way.
Posted by: Dom | November 11, 2009, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Our bodies, our choices, our OWN business.
Posted by: Veronica | Nov 11, 2009 5:42:03 PM
I can’t believe that this is happening in this country who exports democracy in other nation but women in their own country don’t have right to what to do with their life.
Posted by: uma | Nov 11, 2009 6:22:12 PM
Both of you have just shown how immaturity can ruin an entire conversation. I’ve posted on other boards with these same statements, and I guess I’ll put them here too:
Yes, it IS your body and it IS your choice. If you have made the choice to NOT have children, then make the choice to use birth control. Your “choice” is also your “responsibility”. YOU need to be responsible BEFORE sex, so that I don’t have to be responsible for you (with my tax money) AFTER you have had sex. I don’t know how much simpler I can put that. Pregnancy is not really a complicated subject. And for the record, I will state that in the cases of rape, incest or the life of the mother, I do not have a problem with funding for that. Those are not in a woman’s control. She did not have a say or a “choice”. But if a woman decides she wants to have unprotected sex(“choice”), and she ends up pregnant (“responsibility”), but decides that the “mistake” needs to be taken care of, that is an ELECTIVE SURGERY. There is nothing medically necessary about it (considering the woman is healthy). It is not MY problem nor MY responsibility that YOU were immature and irresponsible enough to not use contraception. So don’t ask me to fund something YOU could have avoided by just being responsible.
So, Veronica, yes…it is YOUR body, YOUR choice and YOUR business. And you can PAY for YOUR body, YOUR choice and YOUR business on YOUR OWN.
And, uma, you have a right to do what you want to with your life. You have the right to use contraception, to say NO, to tell your partner to use a condom, and to not get pregnant until you are ready. But I have rights, too. And so do millions of others in this country who feel the same way. YOUR judgement should not be MY responsibility. And I’ll leave it at that.
Posted by: Shoe | November 11, 2009, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Posted by: Dom | Nov 11, 2009 8:26:01 PM
“how many unborn children committed terrorist acts” LOL. The unborn are unborn, they can’t commit any acts, terrorist or otherwise! What a ridiculous comment.”"*** Well apparently the unborn has committed some kind of “act” because some women and men say that the unborn has to be aborted from a woman’s body, because it is considered health related issue and that the government should pay for part or all of the abortion.
Posted by: d | November 11, 2009, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Shoe, good work! You spoke about the abortion debate in a sane and responsible manner. Personally, I see it as a heartbreaking and terrible reality that if safe and legal abortions are not accessible then unsafe back-street abortion chop shops will come about quite quickly. Creating a law against abortion will not stop them but only make the problems worse for everyone. I applaud efforts by certain non-profits to influence people by a change heart not by restrictive and punitive laws.
Posted by: Samuel Brannon | November 11, 2009, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Insurance companies are in the business to make money, they don’t approve of any procedure unless there is a medical necessity for it. Think about why they would approve an abortion IF it’s even allowed in the plan(most plans don’t). Obviously something is very wrong with the pregnancy. Maybe it’s time to stop obsessing about a fetus and start thinking about the actual human beings involved in all this. None of you know what their medical histories are.
Posted by: Grover | November 11, 2009, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
There are a lot of hateful comments floating around this article. I do not believe that abortion is the right choice but I would not condemn a person for having one. I do not believe that I should be forced to contribute money to assist someone to obtain an abortion neither do I feel that I should contribute money to help raise other people’s children. In general, I believe that there are to many moochers. If we are going to have a universal health care policy it should cover true medical needs not desires or wants. If you need an operation then okay, If you want an abortion, bigger breasts, etc… uhhhh NO! Selective operations and surgeries should not be covered…at all.
Posted by: Lynn | November 11, 2009, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
I presume this means I can stop paying the percentage of my taxes that goes to pay for war now, too, right? I mean, I oppose war. People get killed in wars. I don’t want any of my tax money funding people getting killed.
Gosh, that means my federal tax payments go down by about a third! Nice!!
Posted by: JaylahPriest | November 11, 2009, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Yes, republicans, if you want to murder Iraqi or Afganistani civilians, you should do that with your own money. Even better, with your own keyboard hitting hands. Lol.
Posted by: Alex | November 11, 2009, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
Shoe, I wish you would grow up! I have to care for patients all the time, who’s choices I have thought: WHY should I pay for this person’s choice? Athletic patients who need knee replacements get knee replacements with YOUR premiums. Obese patients pick up diabetes meds with YOUR premiums. Cancer patients with no hope of survival continue to get treatment because that is the course they CHOOSE and they do it with YOUR premiums. Do you get it? Providing care to people is about working with them at the place they are at and withholding JUDGMENT. Your opinion about abortion has no place in providing care to people you have never met and who don’t share your opinion!
Posted by: lovebugs | November 11, 2009, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Why not a bill that requires us to pay for the roadside bombs that the Taliban uses in Afghanistan? The result is exactly the same. More dead American kids.
Posted by: Bill | November 11, 2009, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
So many people miss the point. Abortion is not something women want. It is often the very last measure a woman takes and it should be a decision a woman makes with her doctor. It should not be legislated and it should just be a medical procedure. I am sorry if your personal religious views make you think you can legislate freedom of choice, then I live in the wrong country. I am sad to see personal viewpoints coming out as law. It is none of your business if a woman has to chose to take of her own body. The fact remains, the clump of cells are not a baby yet, cannot take a breath on its own and thus is not a living human being. Disagree if you want, but stay out of my business. Also, I bet you are all the same people who cry about big government, but you demand that your personal religious view-points are controlled and legislated by the government. This and same-sex marriage are just areas where religious zealots forget all about big government. And like most conservatives, what they want is right and what others deserve is wrong. Smart thinking.
Posted by: Kris | November 11, 2009, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
“The fact remains, the clump of cells are not a baby yet”
Wow. I’m just stunned by your ignorance. Are you even aware that the vast majority of abortions occur AFTER a fetus has already developed a heart, brain, fingers, toes, etc.???
The “clump of cells” thing is just a fantasy for those trying to justify the brutality that we’re talking about here.
Posted by: Bill | November 11, 2009, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Have you people ever heard of contraception? Have you ever taken personel responsibility? You make your choices don’t expect the rest of us to pay for it. If you have sex you should be responsible to pay the price be it the hard work of raising a child or the pain of giving it up for adoption because you don’t have the money to properly take care of that child. I think you all are a bunch of spoiled brats who just say gimme, gimme! I’ve raised 2 through birth, illness, paying for their food and education and clothing them. I did without so they could have what they needed. I also taught them to be responsible adults. One is a female single doctor the other a married father of 2. Give me a break, grow up and quit whining.
Posted by: Pat Smith | November 12, 2009, 1:33 am 1:33 am
The money spent on wars was to protect our way of life and defend our freedoms. On 9/11 I asked myself why do they hate us so much to do this. Why,because they love killing and dying. They also want to conquer the World and force everyone into their way of life. Do you want to wear a burka? Do you want to volunteer to let them kill you so they can satisfy their sick need to kill. You should be thanking our servicemen who are trying to keep us safe here at home but all you do is denigrate them. Why don’t you move to the Middle East and tell them your an American and see how long they let you live. I personally an sick to death with all of you Un Americans who seem bent on destroying this country. It is the Constitutional obligation to provide for the defense of this Country not pay to kill your baby. You people are so messed up morally.
Posted by: Pat Smith | November 12, 2009, 1:46 am 1:46 am
Look at a sonogram and you will see that baby’s heart starts beating before you barely know you are pregnant at 16 days. What makes the spark of electricity that makes that little heart start beating? Could it be God? Think about it. If your heart stops it take lots of volts of electric shock to start it again but in the womb it does it all by itself. I’d like to see you make a group of so called cells do that trick. Don’t think you can create life, you can only kill it and I don’t think God is going to be very happy with you for doing that. Our life is a gift and you should cherish it. I am just appalled at the lack of understanding of our young people.
Posted by: Pat Smith | November 12, 2009, 1:53 am 1:53 am
Democrats must not be “hoodwinked and fooled” into an abortion fight that does not really exist by the Tricksters!!! We should know that Speaker Nancy Pelosi would never let abortion go by the wayside. We should be smarter than that… AND, we must keep our “eye” on the Prize — and the long awaited and wished for Goal of healthcare for all Americans and lower premiums for those who are already insured. Democrats have a chance to lead by actually doing something good for Americans — like health care, which is tied to the deficit and the bankrupting of businesses and families. We must keep our “eye” on the Prize and not be labeled with the title of another “do nothing Congress”!
GOP politicians and operatives continue to dishonestly and deceptively say that they cannot support a public option, they claim that they want to keep costs down for the American people! Really? This they claim all the while knowing that a public option/competition is the only way to really control cost and to bring about true reform thereby putting a definite Halt to the “out of control” medical costs and premiums crippling people and businesses today, making it harder and harder for average Americans and young people to realize and take advantage of the slowly, slipping away American Dream. One could ask themselves, If you happen to lose your job today or tomorrow in these unstable economic times and at a time when we currently do not have healthcare reform for all, who would pay you or your familiy’s health care costs, that is, if you are lucky enough to be able to see a doctor without insurance? This American Dream, now being called Socialism by the GOP has slowly been slipping away, and is in the last throes of dying, if we do not forge a new path onwards toward inclusion and cooperation for all. This dream of America will die to be replaced with just another third world country — only to go into the history books as another failed experiment.
Again, let us not be fooled by the GOP Trojan Horse “abortion” to distract us and divide us while they laugh gleefully behind our backs as to how they have beat us once again on a myth and an illusion!
(FYI: The Conservative blog “Powerline” barred me from commenting on their blog because my ideas were opposite theirs. This is something a Liberal blog would never do — censor free speach because it did not agree with theirs!)
Posted by: Angellight | November 12, 2009, 10:26 am 10:26 am
To D: Yes.
Posted by: Veronica | November 12, 2009, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm