Obama Administration Cracks Down on Government Waste

We can start by not spending $18 million for a web site upgrade. I could buy a small business for web site designs for that kind of cash!

Would you trust an administration that makes up job creation numbers out of thin air( and is too ignorant to believe that people might discover the truth) to manage waste?An administration that can make 5=100?An administration full of documented tax cheats?An administration that spent 800 billion dollars with nothing to show for it?

LOL. Obama cracking down on waste, right.

The “operative” word in this piece is “vowed”. Where have we heard that before in this Administration that has become one never ending campaign, featuring an attractive puppet for a spokesman. Ever get the feeling the White House has a “feature of the day” to give you news types something to breathlessly report on?

Every administration has made the exact same vow and the same efforts. It is certainly good to continuously work to minimize waste and fraud, but it is impossible to get it to zero. Private companies have the same problems of the same magnitude (or greater actually – private companies are more prone to massive insider embezzlement).

So, are each of these “new” websites going to cost around 18 million to implement, like recovery.gov? And are they going to be just as accurate? Or not.
Obama’s making Jimmy Carter look brilliant. I would’ve said once that would be impossible, but now I know better.
Someone shoot me if I ever consider for even a New York minute voting for any Democrat again.

“More than 50 percent of the $98 billion total came from Medicaid, Medicare, and Medicare Advantage.”
… can’t we just get rid of Medicare then?

The mainstream media is not really dead. It is now ‘controlled’.
Former White House Communications Director Anita Dunn admitted the Obama campaign ‘controlled’ information dispensed to the press…
“We just put that out there and made them write what Plouffe had said as opposed to Plouffe doing an interview with a reporter. So it was very much we controlled it as opposed to the press controlled it,” Dunn said.
“Very rarely did we communicate through the press anything that we didn’t absolutely control,” said Dunn.
“One of the reasons we did so many of the David Plouffe videos was not just for our supporters, but also because it was a way for us to get our message out without having to actually talk to reporters,” said Dunn, referring to Plouffe, who was Obama’s chief campaign manager.
“… (T)he tactic was. … Making the press cover what we were saying.”
Without questioning ANYTHING said by the campaign, the press just regurgitated what Obama told them. Helping to elect the most amateurish, untested and leftist president ever.
Now. Plouffe is making millions on his campaign book and the White House is still ‘controlling’ what the press writes. Crack down on government waste? Ri-i-ight. 440 fake districts receiving stimulus money…
The president calls for increased national budget spending programs in the areas of health care, cap and trade and financial bailouts but says, “It is important though to recognize if we keep on adding to the debt, even in the midst of this recovery, that at some point, people could lose confidence in the U.S. economy in a way that could actually lead to a double-dip recession.”
And, the press applauds. What recovery?

“saved and created” for the stimulus has become a comedic punch line by the Obama comedian economist Jared Bernstein.Now I guess “uncovered and destroyed” will be the bumper sticker for waste remediation. Now, how can get their best candidate William Jefferson on work furlough to head up his new effort.

Waste and abuse?
How about canning the dog n pony show that Holder has planned in NY?
That would save hundreds of millions right there.

So, are each of these “new” websites going to cost around 18 million to implement, like recovery.gov? And are they going to be just as accurate? Or not.
M.L. Bushman | Nov 18, 2009 10:14:13 AM
Don’t you get it? They will HAVE to be more accurate – politicians can’t take this kind of bad press. That is what transparency is about, holding the government accountable. One of two things will happen:
1. The websites will have more resources allocated to checking the data and ensuring it is reported accurately to the public (likely catching problems that go beyond a paving contractor not knowing what congressional district he’s working in).
2. There won’t be any more websites. The government will hunker back down to the old method of releasing little to no data so errors are never caught.
Those are the two options. Which do you prefer? Personally, I like option #1, although it is pretty clear now why ever administration for the past century has slavishly embraced option 2.

That would save hundreds of millions right there.
Posted by: Gibberish
anyone found that missing 9 billion in cash from Iraq yet?

Do you think Obama will find that $400-500 billions dollars in fraud and waste that he and Pelosi and Reid keep claiming are in Medicare?
M.L. Bushman | Nov 18, 2009 10:22:19 AM
You mean the $40-$50 billion per year in fraud and waste? Right in line with what this report is stating ($98 billion in fiscal year 2009)? You do understand this report is strong support of that $400-$500 billion over 10 years number put forward by Pelosi and Reid, don’t you? I know critical thinking is hard, but this is just basic math.

Posted by: jhw539 “You mean the administration that created the stimulus website SPECIFICALLY so the public could monitor them and find just these sorts of errors? An exercise in transparency to the public that has NEVER been done before, and is forcing unprecedented accountability on the bean counters? That administration?”
Actually I think he means THIS administration…A quote from another ABC News post titled, “White House Vows to Correct Stimulus Reports”
Head Start of Augusta, Ga., claimed 317 jobs with a $790,000 grant, but it was really just a one-time raise to its 317 employees.
Chris Whitley is a fiscal officer for Central Savannah River Area Economic Opportunity Authority, which administers the Head Start program in Augusta. He says it was the ADMINISTRATION’s stimulus help line that advised them to claim 317 jobs.
“It wasn’t illegal, immoral or unethical. And they told me to do it, so I did it,” said Whitley.

Posted by: pauldia
do you really want an entire list of republican criminals from the last 8+ years… or would you be satisfied with the likes of Sanford, Vitter, Ensign, DeLay, Scooter, “Dusty” Foggo, Abramoff, druggie Rush, “Duke” Cunningham,
yawn… so many to choose

Plaase ask Gibbs if we are at war or not.
drjohn | Nov 18, 2009 10:29:50 AM
War can ONLY be declared by Congress, per explicit Constitution requirements (Article 2, Section 8). No declaration of war has been made.
We are not at war, regardless of the sales pitch of the week (war on drug, poverty, hunger, terrorism, etc).

more of your vision!
Posted by: Gibberish
republican vision?
2 unfinished under supported conflicts
collapsed economy
no heath care
criminals and scandals
no thanks, that’s why republicans were voted out en masse

Making an already weak economy even worse is the intent of the Cloward/Piven Strategy.
The goal of the Cloward/Piven Strategy is to overthrow capitalism by overwhelming the government bureaucracy with entitlement demands.
This is the strategy tied to Rahm Emanuel’s statement, “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.”
Obama’s plan to “stimulate” the economy involves massive welfare projects which weaken the economy and are financed with deficit spending, the effect of the Cloward/Piven Strategy becomes doubly destructive.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 26% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -14. That matches the lowest Approval Index rating yet recorded for this President.

“We are not at war, regardless of the sales pitch of the week (war on drug, poverty, hunger, terrorism, etc).”
The notion that we are not at war unless congress has issued a declaration of war is a novel one. We will have to think up new names for the Korean War, the Vietnam War and others. Mr. Obama must have been confused when he identified Afghanistan as a good war, a war we had to win.

From ABC News:
Earl Devaney, the chairman of the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board, responded to questions posed by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., late yesterday to say the board can’t vouch for the numbers submitted by recipients of stimulus funding.
“Your letter specifically asks if I am able to certify that the number of jobs reported as created/saved on Recovery.gov is accurate and auditable.
“No, I am not able to make this certification,” Devaney wrote, in a letter provided to ABC News.

jhw539—
Here’s a news flash.. Having a web site for public reporting is NOT TRANSPARANCY. In fact it can not even be considered accurate reporting – as we have already seen with the stimulus reports on recovery.org. Transparency means that the administration who is using OUR money tells us what they are doing with it and how it is affecdting our lives (jobs, growth, security, etc..) It means they are letting teh people see the bills they are voting on, not hiding them on Harry Reid’s desk. (The senate stimulus bill was not released until the GAO scored it – now we are told that even after they score it, it will nto be released until the senate takes up cloture arguments – real transparency there huh..)

Boy that’s a new one jhw539-expecting the public to uncover errors that the administration is too incompetent to pick up.
Nephron | Nov 18, 2009 10:43:34 AM
It’s not new, it is the basis of our government for over two centuries. As a famous Republican once put it, it is a government of the people, by the people. And yes, the people have a duty to be the watchdogs of their leaders just the same as we have the duty to drag into jury duty every few years.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but on Jan. 20, 2009, wasn’t Barak Hussein Obama sworn in as President of the United States, REPLACING George Bush? It’s been 10 months now, when are you Obama apologists going to FINALLY let the man CLAIM his title – AND the responsibilities and consequences that comes with it?

Barack Obama truly is a god. With a wave of his hand he can create jobs in non-existent Congressional districts.
And his supporters just swoon. It’s so much easier than thinking.

It’s funny how Obama is after waste now.
He just wasted $800 billion.

“I would have more respect for Republicans if they actually stood up for their proclaimed values rather than mindless attacking everything the administration does.”
Golly, we just experienced eight years of it from Democrats.

The notion that we are not at war unless congress has issued a declaration of war is a novel one.
Fascist Hyena | Nov 18, 2009 10:52:10 AM
Please reread Dr John’s post that I was directly responding to and quoted as such. He was clearly asserting a legal argument contingent upon the US being “at war.” My response is hardly novel in any way, it is pretty boiler plate mainstream.

All wasteful spending is the fault of the Bush Administration! Great Leader Obama will not repair the Bush damage until at least his 3rd term.
Until then, we must trust that Great Leader is investing wisely with the help of his commited followers in ACORN and the wise leaders of Congress who will spend thriftly assuring that the peoples funds support the tireless work of Great Leader Obama!!

Secondly, I would expect the implementation cost of such websites to be radically lower in future. If you have done any website development ever you know that the first site ever made is more expensive than the subsequent minor iterations. Also, this cost would be part of the administrative cost already included in projects, displacing some of the current (ineffective in my opinion) reporting methods (incorrect databases handed over to the GAO that are never checked except by other bureaucrats).
I would have more respect for Republicans if they actually stood up for their proclaimed values rather than mindless attacking everything the administration does. Suddenly any attempts to cut waste from Medicare (viciously opposed as a socialist program by Republicans when it was created and similarly attacked for decades) are bad? And releasing detailed spending information to the public for complete review and oversight is bad?
Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 18, 2009 11:06:06 AM
Well, to answer your last paragraph first, the administration is a little late looking into fraud and waste now, don’t ya think? And Obama thinks an executive order is going provide “transparency”? Excuse me, but he’s in charge, right? Why aren’t his minions already providing transparency? The only transparent thing here is Obama’s desire for more press–as in, issuing an executive order.
Now about the websites there: You do realize that the 18 mill spent at recovery.gov was only an upgrade, right? What’s implementation of a host of new websites going to cost then? Obama needs to look into hiring private developers from those boo-bad free markets out there, maybe get some bids, request a few RFQs. He could save us all a bundle of money, and even provide a few jobs in the bargain, which is more than we got with the stimulus.

jhw539 You keep talking about how great the “transparency” of this administration and the recovery.gov website is.
I guess you didn’t read my 10:30 AM response to you that at least one organization, so far, has ADMITTED that it was THE ADMINISTRATION’S stimulus help line that ADVISED them to claim 317 jobs that were neither saved or created.

“The Obama administration Tuesday vowed to crack down on government waste…”
Only idiots believe and defend such lies. This is nothing more than deceptive rhetoric. Foxes don’t protect chickens.

Until they Get rid Of Obama himself this is just not true.

What the heck is so wrong with so many of you? Are you serious? Because this is just lip service! What part of he as quadrupled the deficit do you not understand? How is anything cutting waste when he spends so much.. Give me a break start holding this guy accountable and stop issuing the free pass. Wake up people he is nothing but a good speaker with no plan. I can believe how many of you believe this administration when they tell you down is up and wrong is right, Can you think for yourselves? If the answer is yes you will see the truth, Just because the Media tells you Obama is the best thing since god himself does not make it fact. Is this your Grandparents America is this what they fought and died for? I think not.

And the Obama supporters swoon…
Oh he’s so brilliant!
Obama is going to cut out government waste–what a chess player.
Conveniently forgetting that Obama is doing his best to bankrupt our country.

No No way
We aren’t buying it Obama.
No more of your snakeoil.

“The Obama administration Tuesday vowed to crack down on government waste…”
Only idiots believe and defend such lies. This is nothing more than deceptive rhetoric. Foxes don’t protect chickens.
Posted by: keys2truth | Nov 18, 2009 11:41:31 AM
You think the little economics lecture he got from the Chinese might have anything to do with this “vow to crack
down on government waste”? Nah, he’s the great ‘Me-Sigh-Ah’, nobody tells him what to do.
It is pretty darn sad when a communist country expresses concerns over the cost of our proposed socialized medicine. Wonder if Pelosi, Reid and the big O will blow the Chinese off like they have been the American taxpayers for the last 10 months?

Washington Times, 6 Aug 2009:
“It’s official. The U.S. is no longer engaged in a “war on terrorism.” Neither is it fighting “jihadists” or in a “global war.”
The only terminology that Mr. Brennan said the administration is using is that the U.S. is “at war with al Qaeda.”
So how does he know the people he’s blowing up are members of Al Qaeda and not the Taliban?
Why isn’t he Mirandizing them first?

The Democrats will hate it. The Republicans (or at least most of them) will hate it. But there is an EASY and SIMPLE solution to this problem:
STOP SPENDING.
Return the operation of roads, schools, prisons, social programs, state militias, health care, and people’s lives to the States and to the people.
Then use that excess government bureacrats to really monitor and go-after the remaining Constitutional spending/funding (defense, court system, etc).
There is no way to monitor and control fraud when we are spending trillions on everything from flying pallets of cash to war zones to militant “community activits” in some urban hellhole.

What the heck is so wrong with so many of you? Are you serious? Because this is just lip service! What part of he as quadrupled the deficit do you not understand? How is anything cutting waste when he spends so much.
Posted by: nobama12 | Nov 18, 2009 11:53:52 AM
I have to agree. What good is tracking fraud when the real problem is really spending. But this is not just Obama’s issue. This is ALL of Congress, including Republicans and especially before 2006. It has just gotten worse is all, not better.
We need real ideas and real implementation that will reduce spending not increase it. If we are going to remake America, let’s do it in a way that makes us more free not less and so future generations don’t have to pay.
IMO, California is the petrie dish of what’s wrong with government. Eliminate the agencies that serve no purpose other than to sap the budget and create more restrictions. Let the federal government do the job of oversight and only federal regulation when it is necessary. Let the states be the ones primarily for regulation. What’s good for one state is not necessarily good for all states. We have state’s rights for a reason. Take a good look at federal reimbursements and maybe make some changes there. It only increases the federal government’s control on states. The states have become addicted and are now held hostage by their own addiction to federal money.
I fear it is too late to turn this all around but I cannot give up hope that there are potential leaders out there that can rise to the great challenges we face as a nation.

Awwww
Will he have to give up date nights in NYC and his 71 car motorcade?
Posted by: mick | Nov 18, 2009 12:08:39 PM
I wonder if Mrs. O will have to get rid of some of her TWENTY SIX aides, paid for by the tax payer? I don’t know what a “Deputy Associate Director of Correspondence for the First Lady” does, but she gets $36,000 a year to do it.
Talk about “government waste”…

Will he have to give up date nights in NYC and his 71 car motorcade?
——-
Petty comment . . .

Don’t look now, but I think Barack Obama just impeached his authorship of “Dreams…” see the post on his brother in China.

The national debt just went over 12 trillion, the budget deficit stands at just under 1.4 trillion. Since January, I have seen increased spending, raising of the debt level and more dollars being printed. Still waiting for the President to make those ‘tough decisions’ he promised he would make as President.
From the First Presidential debate, CNN transcript:
Obama: “And because of the economy’s slowing down, I think we can also expect less tax revenue so there’s no doubt that as president I’m going to have to make some tough decisions.”

Thank God they’re out of power.
Posted by: Jack Dalton | Nov 18, 2009 12:26:17 PM
Overall, I would agree with you but Democrats are doing nothing to restore this great country. With the Democrats in charge, we’ll see continued double-digit employment, continued spending we can’t afford, higher taxes, inflation, higher interest rates and decreasing dollar value. I see nothing that this administration or this Congress is doing to turn this catastrophe around. And as you can see from my previous post, I may be a registered Republican, but I don’t take sides in this issue.
We need leaders who will cut spending and have the guts to return rights to the states where they belong.

Sarah Palin gets to blame all the lies and pettiness in her book on somebody else, since not only is it a lightweight piece of trash – called ‘lies’ by the McCain campaign, she (a journalism graduate) was incapable of writing it without help.
Posted by: Jack Dalton | Nov 18, 2009 12:44:41 PM
No doubt you’ve already read it, right? Rushed right out yesterday and bought it so you could trash her on a blog? Well done. Well, at least she made some money off you.

“she (a journalism graduate) was incapable of writing it without help.”
Posted by: Jack Dalton | Nov 18, 2009 12:44:41 PM
Hillary couldn’t write one by herself either and Bill Ayes wrote Obama’s book. Neither Hillary nor Barry gave anyone any attribution.

Is there any liberal out there with at least 3 active brain cells?
Instead of growing the government by leaps & bounds, we should be shinking it!
The idea that this group of self professed “experts” can come up with anything that is really going to cut down on this fraud is insane.
I do find it incredibly comical that these brainiacs can seem to come up with these dopey numbers of how much fraud there is, yet can’t seem to stop it!
Their “brilliant” plan is to make the government bigger & bigger which will ONLY lead to more & more fraud!
America, in just over 11 months it will be our opportunity to throw out the Congressional component of this insane attempt to social engineer everything from the education system to cap, tax & trade to healthcare.

“It’s obviously a common practice but Palin Derangement Syndrome runs deep and blinds you to all reasonable thought. I’m sure some day suffering from BDS and PDS will be classified an illness and benefits for liberals will result. It’s all part of The Plan.”
Odd reply to a right winger pushing the “Ayers wrote Obama’s memoir” conspiracy theory.

From Andy McCarthy, who prosecuted the blind Sheikh:
“In a meeting with the press in China, President Obama said that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed would be ‘convicted’ and had ‘the death penalty applied to him’ . . . and then said he wasn’t “pre-judging” the case. He made the second statement after it was pointed out to him — by NBC’s Chuck Todd — that the first statement would be taken as the president’s interfering in the trial process. Obama said that wasn’t his intention. I’m sure it wasn’t — he’s trying to contain the political damage caused by his decision — but that won’t matter. He has given the defense its first motion that the executive branch, indeed the president himself, is tainting the jury pool. Nice work.”

President Barack Obama’s job approval rating is 48 – 42 percent, the first time he has slipped below the 50 percent threshold nationally, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

The first lady’s public service efforts are well worth the cost of the aides provided to facilitate them. Where were you when Laura Bush had 20 some aides? Democrats certainly did not attack her worthy efforts on behalf of children.
Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 18, 2009 12:36:22 PM
“The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.” ~Ronald Reagan
“Where were you when Laura Bush had 20 some aides?”
Well, jhw539, I’ve been right here online for the past 8 yrs, advocating for – fiscal responsibility in government, investigation into the Halliburton scandal and military supplier fraud, and shifting our military efforts away from Iraq and putting them into Afghanistan.
Answer your question?
And if you think Laura Bush wasn’t ‘attacked’ by Democrats, you obviously haven’t done your homework.
BTW, I noticed you still haven’t responded to my 10:30 AM and 11:32:30 AM replies to you. What’s the matter, a little too ‘transparent’ for you to defend?

According to a CNN national poll,
“Two-thirds of Americans disagree with the Obama administration’s decision to try Khalid Sheik Mohammed in a civilian court rather than a military court, according to a new national poll. …
The poll indicates that 64 percent believe Mohammed should be tried in military court, with 34 percent suggesting that he face trial in civilian court. Six in 10 people questioned say Mohammed should be tried stateside, with 37 percent calling for the trial to take place at a U.S. facility in another country.
“The decision to bring Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in front of a civilian court is universally unpopular – even a majority of Democrats and liberals say that he should be tried by military authorities,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “Despite that, most Americans say that he will get a fair trial in the U.S.””
As Ed Morrisey at Hot Air says:
“This weekend, Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA) called people who oppose criminal trials in federal court for Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and the 9/11 plotters “un-American.” It turns out that there is an epidemic of this lack of patriotism, according to CNN.”

The first clue that Obama would be incompetent and reckless with our money was when he put a tax cheat in charge of the economy/IRS.
The next was ramming the stimulus bill through–Obama signed it unread.
Obama’s judgement is horrible.
He’s so naive he thought health care could be passed in two weeks!
And we are to believe he will stop wasting our money?

“The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll”
Any thoughts on how much money Scottie made doing a push poll for Palin’s book or was it more a stepping stone from later work?

Apparently Obama only has to mention his intent to do something, and the media rushes in to declare it has been a success.

Obama is a different kind of politician for sure.
A tax and spend liberal on steroids!
He’s like an out of control teenager with his parent’s credit card. Just as reckless.
I read that since Obama became president the rate feds are printing money is up 120%.
So now Obama wants to cut back.
Like that teenager that realizes he really screwed up and spent too much.
And we’re the ones getting punished.

The lesson as always? Right wingers lie
OT: thanks for citing
Posted by: Ryan C | Nov 18, 2009 1:53:38 PM
I quoted Ed Morrisey. Take it up with him.

He is taking traveling tours and trying to campaign all over the world and country. Sounds Like a Big Waste to me. Wheres the Jobs? Can’t waite to get the waste out in 2010 and 2012.

“I believe as a U.S. citizen it’s Ed’s right to express an opinion and draw a conclusion”
Actually any human being should have that right. Its what we consider to be a natural right.
However last I checked freedom of speech is not some license to lie without criticism.
Right wingers may feel differently.

Yeah .. noconfidence..that makes sense to me. Emotionally and irrationally vote the same people back into power that caused these messes in the first place. Until voters get better educated, get some depth in terms of reality knowledge, learn to look forward with vision and just plain “stop listening to soundbites”, this nation will stay radically divided and in trouble.

And for those who didn’t get it, try reading the first sentence of the post.”
Posted by: Ryan C | Nov 18, 2009 1:56:37 PM
Which I just posted.
It’s always good to know that you’re lurking about ready to point out right wing lies while ignoring left-wing lies. And it’s curious how I don’t recall you much offering original comments and opinions about the content of Jake’s thread. Just lurking and pouncing. It is your right, of course, to do so.
Oh wait, I remember for Veteran’s Day you posting something about the USO and Alyson (aka AllyCat) was so moved by your one sentence that she actually made a donation to the USO. Sigh. So touching. Lollipops and unicorns…

I’m not saying I believe all the hysteria put forth by the right-wingers, but …. (insert right wing hysteria talking points including…)
And lately I’ve begun to wonder why he won’t allow anyone to see his original passport or school records, not even a 1st grade report card.
Could it be because the date of birth on his school records won’t match that which he’s told to the public?
Posted by: ashamed dem | Nov 18, 2009 2:12:45 PM
Thank you for a very deep belly laugh.
In the future I’d try burying the talking points a little further in and disguising them a bit…
Just a suggestion, and I mean that gently as I hope you’ll reconsider and vote Democrat in 2010 and 2012. This doesn’t appear to be a promising path for you (imho).

It’s always good to know that you’re lurking about ready to point out right wing lies while ignoring left-wing lies.”
I post as I wish just as you do.
This insincere appeal for objectiveness was stale a few weeks ago.
“Oh wait, I remember for Veteran’s Day you posting something about the USO and Alyson (aka AllyCat) was so moved by your one sentence that she actually made a donation to the USO.”
The mods zapped every post mentioning the USO.
Still a little miffed about that.

“The Independents put him in the White House and they can take him out.”
Young people put Obama in office.
He won them overwhelmingly when their turnout was 17% of the electorate.
And I don’t see independents voting for Palin.
Romney or Pawlenty maybe but I am not sure they will survive a GOP primary.

Obama vows to crack down …
Wow! what a joke. It makes people think that this is the first time in his presidency to know the existing mess.
I am an DEM turned Independent. I have to say: Enough is Enough.
I got another email from Barbara Boxer asking for donation of $5. I didn’t have patience to finish her email. I replied to her:
Don’t ask we the people for help! ASK THE BIASED MSM FOR HELP! They help your boss OBAMA to sit there, they can help you to sit there too.

“Well, I don’t know. “Should” isn’t very emphatic. Kinda wishy washy.”
“Should” is a recognition of the reality of the world that oppresses this natural right.
And yes its a natural right.

Posted by: Ryan C | Nov 18, 2009 2:36:05 PM
“Classic right wing projection and hypocrisy.
Demand civility followed up by acting uncivil.”
Pot, meet Kettle.
“This is a rough place where you will be challenged.”
LOL, I’ve scraped stuff off the sole of my shoe more challenging than you.

‘And I don’t see independents voting for Palin. ‘
Guess what you buffoon, they sure as hell are NOT going to vote for the Dems again.

… And lately I’ve begun to wonder why he won’t allow anyone to see his original passport or school records, not even a 1st grade report card.
Could it be because the date of birth on his school records won’t match that which he’s told to the public? …
———- well said. it made me wonder too during the primary. and who were behind the scene to help his cover-up?

Eric Holder confirmed in testimony this morning that if KSM is acqitted he will not be released (no kidding, Eric).
Won’t that make us a real beacon to the world? We put on a show trial, the guy gets acquitted and goes right back into the slammer.
In the meantime, we have regained our moral authority by establishing a two-tiered system of justice: if we’re really sure we can convict a guy, he gets all kinds of rights bestowed on him. If the evidence is a bit more dicey, he’s stuck with a military commission. That’ll play well on the Arab street.
Talk about creating more terrorists…

How ’bout starting by recalling the “porkulus” package. What a joke.
Posted by: s | Nov 18, 2009 2:49:31 PM
Shall we relive the top 10 quotes from Joe “The Porkulus Gatekeeper” Biden? Nothing gets by you, eh Joe?

“Talk about creating more terrorists…”
This from a right winger who advocates torture and infinite detention.

Joe Biden is no longer the “sheriff” of the porkulus program.. he is now called “deputy dawg”

Ryan C
Independents voted for McDonald in Virginia and Christie in New Jersey.
They are both conservatives.
Keep telling yourself Independents will vote for Obama over Palin. Obama duped them, flat out lied, pretended to be something that he is not.
Palin is no more conservative than Christie/McDonald.
The left is terrified that regular Americans will give Palin a chance this time and start to connect with her values.
They won’t be fooled by Obama a second time.

Time to appoint a special prosecuter and grand jury to look into where this money is realy going from the porkulus bill…Are the taxpayers financing democrats elections?

“Independents voted for McDonald in Virginia and Christie in New Jersey.
They are both conservatives.”
Christie is a not a conservative.
He’s a typical NJ pol.
McDonnell ran as a Republican and did so more moderately than when he ran for AG.
“Palin is no more conservative than Christie/McDonald.”
Palin is a great deal more conservative than those two but her conservative bonafides are not what is at issue but whether she is up to the job at all.
Plus the fact that Independents don’t like her (favorables)
“Democrats also argue that with polls showing fewer voters identifying themselves as Republicans, the pool of independent voters is simply becoming MORE conservative than in the past, as those formerly Republican voters move into that camp.”
And that hampers GOP GOTV efforts which are tied to party affiliation as much as anything.

Obama’s overall approval rating in the latest CBS poll is down 3 points from the previous month, but the slide in his numbers on Afghanistan are dramatic. In April, 58 percent approved and 21 percent disapproved of his handling of the war. Now 38 percent approve and 43 disapprove. The biggest change is among independents: “Last month, 44% of independents approved and 36% disapproved of the job President Obama was doing on Afghanistan. Now, more independents disapprove than approve: 49% disapprove, and just 30% approve.”

Welcome to the real world:
U.S. President Barack Obama has acknowledged that he will not be able to meet his pledge to close the controversial detention centre at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, by January.

The taxes, spending, entitlements, enslaving the poor, weak national security–I won’t go back to the Democrats.”
yeah it really sounds like you were a Democrat before.
Seriously is right wing dishonesty inherent to the ideology or the people attracted to the ideology?
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This is a very good point. There seems to be a totalitarian approach by right wingers – lies don’t matter because they’re good for ‘our cause’, facts don’t matter if they get in the way of ‘our cause’, fair trials don’t matter because ‘our cause’ justifies short cutting justice.
We can hope these people never get near power again – we don’t need no stinkin’ totalitarians.

It all seems so…yesterday:

“Guantánamo, we had a specific deadline that was missed,” Mr. Obama said in an interview with NBC News in Beijing during his weeklong trip to Asia. Mr. Obama said that he now hoped to shut down the detention facility sometime next year, but he did not set a new deadline.
“We are on a path and a process where I would anticipate that Guantánamo will be closed next year,” Mr. Obama said in a separate interview with Fox News. “I’m not going to set an exact date because a lot of this is also going to depend on cooperation from Congress.”
The prospects for fully shutting down Guantánamo have been dimming for months as the administration stumbled over a litany of political and logistical tripwires. Gregory B. Craig, the White House counsel who drafted the order to close the facility, announced last week that he was stepping down. During the presidential campaign last year, Mr. Obama railed against the detention complex on an American military base in Cuba, calling it a symbol used by terrorists to recruit new members. Within days of his inauguration, he ordered Guantánamo closed by January.

Only 43 percent of voters surveyed by the Zogby/O’Leary Poll would vote for President Obama less than a year after he was elected, or about the same level of support President Clinton won in 1992 in a three-way race with the first President Bush and former EDS executive and national political gadfly Ross Perot.
Perhaps even more worrisome for the president is that only 37 percent of independents queried in the survey said they would support Obama. That figure appears to be consistent with exit polling following the Virginia and New Jersey governorship races which indicated a seismic shift among independents away from Obama and to Republican candidates Bob McDonnell and Chris Christie.
And on the question of trust, Obama also fell far short of his performance during the 2008 presidential race. A year later, Zogby/O’Leary find that 42 percent of voters say they do not trust the Obama White House “at all” to gain passage in Congress of legislation that will create new jobs in 2010, and another 11 percent say they don’t have much trust that the president can succeed on that score.

“Plus the fact that you called her a “sociopath”, right? Don’t forget that.”
She is a sociopath.

tierra: “. . . fair trials don’t matter because ‘our cause’ justifies short cutting justice.”
Military tribunals are fair and just trials. They have been used to punish enemy combatants in the past and there is now law specifically allowing the just punishment of enemy combatants via military court. They are authorized by the same constitution that grants our civilian courts authority. Just because Obama wants to play politics with the scum responsible for the worst terrorist attacks on our soil, doesn’t mean our military courts are any less capable of bringing our enemies to justice or that it would be any less of an example of our values. Further, what Obama and you liberals don’t seem to understand is that our “values” aren’t on trial, the terrorists responsible for killing thousands of Americans are? Try to keep that straight.
tierra: “. . . lies don’t matter because they’re good for ‘our cause’, facts don’t matter if they get in the way of ‘our cause’”
What was that you were saying? Apparently, the door swings both ways. Actually, I would argue you are just on the wrong side of the door.

“They have taken a bad situation made it so bad that now the party who was in power before the problems started now looks like the party of reason!”
That must be why the GOP has its lowest approval ratings in years and in two Congressional elections they lost in a swing district and an area they have had as Republican for a century.
The GOP’s 2010 game plan hinges on the economy staying in the pits.
The economy is likely to improve over the next year including jobs and then the GOP has NOTHING to offer.

Ryan C: “Birthers are much less concerned with Obama’s paperwork than they are with his skin color.”
That you would bring race into a discussion that is otherwise race-neutral says more about your racist motives than that of Americans who just want to verify the documents and credentials of their president. I suggest you take some sensitivity training as your flawed assumptions are repulsive and offensive.

The economy is likely to improve over the next year including jobs and then the GOP has NOTHING to offer.
Actually, Ryan many ecomonists also beleive that we would be in no worse a position than we are today if we HAD NOT passed the “Stimulator”.
We KNOW FOR A FACT, that he administration had no clue, but shot their collective mouths off anyway.
Remmeber that whole 8% unemployment thing? How’s that working (or NOT working)out for ya?
Oh, I forget, the Geniuses “mis-read” the situation. Seems like they do that a lot don’t they?
They ran around like chickens with their heads cut off when “cash for clunkers” artificially inflated 3rd qtr numbers. Wonder what the story will be in January when 4th qtr numbers come out.
Keep grasping at straws and strwamen Ryan. Your so far off the target line it is indeed comical.

Ryan C: “That must be why the GOP has its lowest approval ratings in years and in two Congressional elections . . .”
I guess you forgot to mention that the whole of Congress, which has had a Democrat majority since 2007, has garnered record disapproval ratings. I find it laughable that you liberals continue to bang on about Republicans when you’ve had the majority in Congress for almost 3 years now. What happened to change you can believe in? What a joke! Hahaha!
Ryan C: “The GOP’s 2010 game plan hinges on the economy staying in the pits.”
The GOP game plan for 2010 and 2012 hinges on Obama continuing to be Obama. Now that all of his campaign rhetoric has been translated to massive liberal pork spending that conservatives warned about, Americans are hitting the reject button. The GOP hopes the economy will get better, but we aren’t going to bury our heads in the sand like the liberals and ignore the facts that show the liberal spending is unsustainable, such as those presented by the non-partisan CBO. Not only that, Obama has lost the trust of the independents, who were critical in getting him elected. Unless he becomes a born-again conservative, Democrats are doomed come 2010 and 2012.
You liberals need to face reality. Otherwise, I predict you will need to re-establish your liberal-support groups that were created after Kerry’s defeat in 2004. The mass liberal mental breakdown coming in 2010 and 2012 will make 2004 look like a cloudy day.

Ryan C: “Sorry but the birthers are driven by racism not some concern over paperwork.”
You can’t prove every birther is a racist or even that a majority are. Until you can, your assumptions are (reverse) racist themselves.

White House goes on defensive, taking aim at critics of new government findings that advise against routine mammograms for women under 50, saying the guidelines are merely a recommendation
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No … we are preventing you from enacting rationed deathcare and killing young women

“Even if the economy was to improve (which I doubt) do you think voters are going to forget everything else and ‘kiss & make-up’ with Obama?”
Well I was referring to 2010 and Congress.
2012 may have all new obstacles for Obama to face (much like Bush and the Iraq war).
But yes I would say if the economy improves, people will credit Obama.

“It also a District which is NOT GOING TO EXIST you fool!!!!!!”
I guess those claims by right wingers that it was a short lived victory and that Doug Hoffman will be reclaiming it in 2010 were quite wrong then.

“What is racist about seeking the truth?If a candidate refuses to release information and is called on it-is that racism”
When no other candidate has been asked to release info, indeed when a candidate has gone to the lengths of posting his birth certificate online and allowing two different fact check organizations to inspect it after right wing lunatics declare it a forgery with no proof.
Yeah I would say racism is the motivating factor.

“The GOP hopes the economy will get better”
They certainly do not.
If the economy improves, they do not return to power and that is what is most important.
“but we aren’t going to bury our heads in the sand like the liberals and ignore the facts that show the liberal spending is unsustainable, such as those presented by the non-partisan CBO”
You mean the CBO report that says the Dem health care plan covers 12 times as many people as the GOP’s AND reduces the deficit twice as much?

“I guess you forgot to mention that the whole of Congress, which has had a Democrat majority since 2007, has garnered record disapproval ratings.”
Yup and you do realize that Republicans in Congress poll about twice as low as Democrats.

“The 23rd district has been in existence since 1823. Since that time it has been represented by 55 representatives, including the just-elected Democrat Bill Owens.”
Its the geographical area there genius.
That is unless you think District 23 still includes the Bronx.

Back to the electoral arguments for 2010
GOP Party purity demands as a factor
CNN “The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey’s release on Tuesday comes just two weeks after internal party divisions led to the GOP loss of a seat in the House of Representatives that it had held since the 19th century.
The poll indicates that a slight majority, 51 percent, of Republicans would prefer to see the GOP in their area nominate candidates who agree with them on all the major the issues even if they have a poor chance of beating the Democratic candidate. Forty-three percent of Republicans say they would rather have candidates with whom they don’t agree on all the important issues but who can beat the Democrats.
Democrats polled seemed to place a slightly higher priority on electoral victory: 58 percent say that they would like their party to nominate candidates who can beat Republicans, even if they don’t agree with those candidates on all the issues. Fewer than 4 in 10 Democrats say they would rather see their party nominate candidates who agree with them on all major issues, but have a poor chance of beating the Republican candidate.”

@Octavia: “Okay, so what is the deal with the civilian courts vs. military tribunals for some of you, specifically? . . . As if the Federal courts in New York and the NYPD are too wimpy . . .”
It has nothing to do with any of that. Why provide our enemies with the same rights as our citizens when there is no reason to do so? They deserve the least luxuries as possible under our constitution and laws, which is what the military tribunals provide. We have treated the terrorists as enemy combatants to this point and there maybe some legal conflict with that fact and the way citizens should be handled prior to a civilian trial. Further, the burden of proof is on those who would like to try non-citizen enemy combatants in our civilian courts. And, to show the world our values is not a valid or relevant answer.
@Octavia: “Or are some people afraid that it’s a way of getting at people in the Bush-Cheney admin for war crimes?”
The fact that liberals and proponents of the civilian trials constantly link them to a revelation that might lead to Bush and Cheney being charged with war crimes, proves the point that politics is playing a large factor in their judgment. This isn’t about Bush, Cheney, and partisan politics. This is about making sure the terrorists are tried in a military court because they do not deserve the extra rights and protections granted by our civilian courts. After all, they are enemy combatant not civilians. By virtue and by law, they should be tried in a military court.

Given the spending and continual examples of waste from the Obama administration, this story title must be some kind of joke.

This just in…
Obama sticks foot in mouth; then denies it’s there.
Press: Is it true you are prejudging KSM?
Obama: “Pftft hmfdg iodftsh mmmm mmm mmm.”

“The Worst is yet to Come: Unemployed Americans Should Hunker Down for More Job Losses
Nouriel Roubini | Nov 15, 2009″
He also calls for a new stimulus package.
Any right winger takers for that advice?

When you says “I’m a democrat” then proceed to push the latest right wing talking points, well yeah.
Posted by: Ryan C | Nov 18, 2009 5:42:06 PM
I hope “you says” is not directed at me, because I’ve not said anywhere on this blog that I’m a democrat.

Truly sad.I rest my case.

“It is truly a poverty of intellect to make assumptions on the color of a person’s skin simply from their political viewpoint”
BTW a poverty of intellect is assuming a man who went to Columbia then Harvard at which he garnered magna cum laude must have been an affirmative action applicant because of the color of his skin.
Ya know like you regularly state about Obama Nephron.

As much as I’d enjoy staying and playing with you Ryan, some of us have to work to provide the “milk and honey” for Obama’s promised land.
But don’t worry, you’ll be hearing from me again. And with this economy, that’s about the only thing you can take to the bank.

Maybe the GOP should change their symbol because their recent run in power was pretty much antithesis to many things they claim to espouse as principle.
Then again maybe that’s why people are leaving the GOP.
Posted by: Ryan C | Nov 18, 2009 4:51:09 PM
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Maybe the Democrats should keep their symbol because their current run in power is pretty much thesis to many things they espouse as principle. I’ve never seen jack asses that didn’t have a hard head and bad attitude.

More than 50,000 jobs, or one out of every 10 jobs the White House says were “saved or created” by their economic stimulus plan, came from projects that reported spending no money yet, according to a government report obtained by ABC News.
This is not change we were waiting for.

Just a week after FoxNew’s Hannity gets nailed splicing in footage of another rally to inflate the attendance of a recent one thereby giving a false impression of attendance at the rally
FoxNews does it AGAIN!
“This afternoon, Fox News host Gregg Jarrett proudly announced that Sarah Palin is “continuing to draw huge crowds while she’s promoting her brand new book. Take a look at — these are some of the pictures just coming into us.” But the pictures that the network chose to display on-air appeared to be old file footage of Palin rallies from the 2008 presidential campaign. Individuals in the crowd are seen holding McCain/Palin signs, and others are holding pom-poms and cheering wildly. “There’s a crowd of folks,” an enthused Jarrett observed, referring to the old footage.”
Also of note this is their so called news programs versus the opinion show.

“…it makes sense to me that the defendants could be tried in either military or civilian court because the Sept. 11 attacks were both an act of war and a violation of federal criminal law.”
It is clear to me that they could be tried in either forum, and I believe Holder explicitly said as much today.
But I’m virtually certain that they can’t be tried in both–i.e., the prohibition against double jeopardy would mean tney couldn’t be acquitted in one forum and then tried again in another. (I don’t know that the clause has ever been held applicable to a non-US citizen, but given recent rulings on, e.g., habeas corpus, it’s hard to imagine that it wouldn’t be.)
I’ll take Holder at his word that he has reviewed the evidence and is confident of a conviction, but Marcia Clark no doubt felt the same way before the O.J. trial. No one ever knows what a particular federal judge is going to do, and there is far less certainty about juries.
The biggest concern I have is that he has established a two-tier justice system: we’ll sort through the evidence, and in the cases where we really like it we’ll take our chances in federal court, but the iffier ones will go via a different route. That is very troubling, and I would expect that there will be a great deal of criticism of it to come.
In the event of an acquittal, there’s no way he’ll be released–he can and would continue to be detained as an unlawful enemy combatant, but the public relations effect of such an outcome would be devastating.
When Holder talks about the 300 or so terrorists who have been tried and convicted, he’s omitting one crucial fact: not one of them (so far as I am aware) was apprehended abroad and convicted on evidence obtained abroad from, among other things, foreign intelligence services and informants, who may or may not be willing to testify at trial. They cannot be subpoenaed, although there are some very time-consuming and uncertain ways of seeking to compel their testimony, assuming they can even be found.
Then there’s the waterboarding stuff. Even if there is a mountain of evidence against them obtained through other means, there is probably no way to keep this guy from getting it into evidence, and while that may seem gratifying to some Bush-Cheney haters, they will have been much farther removed from events by the time of trial, and the material will redound to the detriment of the US, not just those two men (this trial may not occur for several years). Anyone who thinks KSM can’t make this thing into an embarrassing circus need only review the course of the Moussaoui p prosecution. And it is likely to place some CIA people in jeopardy.
It is a puzzling and inexplicable decision to me.

It is clear to me that they could be tried in either forum, and I believe Holder explicitly said as much today.
But I’m virtually certain that they can’t be tried in both–i.e., the prohibition against double jeopardy would mean tney couldn’t be acquitted in one forum and then tried again in another. (I don’t know that the clause has ever been held applicable to a non-US citizen, but given recent rulings on, e.g., habeas corpus, it’s hard to imagine that it wouldn’t be.)”
That would depends upon what acts they were charged with wouldn’t it?
Theoretically they could be charged with some acts that are felt confident for a civilian court and if that fails charged with other acts in a military tribunal right?
The acts would have to be different though of course.

If the terrorists about to go on trial murdered or plotted to murder all these people on the basis of their beliefs (meaning religious beliefs of Islam), would that make a difference in how this process is approached? It seems confusing to me when trying to figure out which “category” these terrorists go into. Of course, first and foremost, they are cold blooded, cowardly murderers. But, are they considered a “military group”, a “religious group”, a “terrorist group”? How do you put them in one particular box?
And one more question (this one is kind of far fetched)…would it be possible that the defense could bring up a plea on the basis of insanity? Or would that even be on the table for them to do at all?

Washington – President Barack Obama’s choice for a top job in the Treasury Department did not disclose all of her late tax payments until she was repeatedly prodded by Senate investigators, a congressional report issued Wednesday said. Obama’s nominee for undersecretary of the Treasury for international affairs, Lael Brainard, is the fifth presidential nominee to reveal tax issues during the congressional vetting process.

“That would depends upon what acts they were charged with wouldn’t it?”
Not sure, but I don’t think so (I’m going from memory, and will have to look into it a bit). My recollection, though, is that when you bring charges and there is an acquittal, double jeopardy prevents you from bringing any new charges that you could have brought the first time that involved the same “core of operative facts,” or something like that.
But I do believe the State of New York would be able to charge him and try him in their state court system. Tough thing to explain to the world, but that’s the way our constitution and our federal system work.

Here’s some of it, and it’s not at all encouraging:
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM, (R-S.C): Can you give me a case in United States history where a enemy combatant caught on a battlefield was tried in civilian court?
ERIC HOLDER, ATTORNEY GENERAL: I don’t know. I’d have to look at that. I think that, you know, the determination I’ve made –
GRAHAM: We’re making history here, Mr. Attorney General. I’ll answer it for you. The answer is no.
HOLDER: Well, I think –
GRAHAM: The Ghailani case — he was indicted for the Cole bombing before 9/11. And I didn’t object to it going into federal court. But I’m telling you right now. We’re making history and we’re making bad history. And let me tell you why.
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GRAHAM: If bin Laden were caught tomorrow, would it be the position of this administration that he would be brought to justice?
HOLDER: He would certainly be brought to justice, absolutely.
GRAHAM: Where would you try him?
HOLDER: Well, we’d go through our protocol. And we’d make the determination about where he should appropriately be tried. [...]
GRAHAM: If we captured bin Laden tomorrow, would he be entitled to Miranda warnings at the moment of capture?
HOLDER: Again I’m not — that all depends. I mean, the notion that we –
GRAHAM: Well, it does not depend. If you’re going to prosecute anybody in civilian court, our law is clear that the moment custodial interrogation occurs the defendant, the criminal defendant, is entitled to a lawyer and to be informed of their right to remain silent.
The big problem I have is that you’re criminalizing the war, that if we caught bin Laden tomorrow, we’d have mixed theories and we couldn’t turn him over — to the CIA, the FBI or military intelligence — for an interrogation on the battlefield, because now we’re saying that he is subject to criminal court in the United States. And you’re confusing the people fighting this war.

I believe a one- or two-year suspension of a portion of the payroll tax would be by far the best, least expensive and most immediate way to spur job creation in the private sector. I don’t know whether it has been under consideration but it certainly should be.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | Nov 18, 2009 9:01:08 PM
I recall McCain suggesting that during the election but it may have been after. Of course, we went with Obama so it’s moot from a leader’s standpoint.

Oh yes hit the consumer harder now. The government made errors and now go after the welfare people and poor. Medicare. wow. Way to go! We are wasting more money in Washington and spending like crazy, helping banks who were crooks themselves. Wow. Great idea. Get the money from the poor and medicaid people. Right on! Disgusted.

Orwellian:
Obama Administration Cracks Down on Government Waste
vs.
” ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe reports: The Obama administration Tuesday vowed to crack down on government waste ”
Absolutely Orwellian:
” The increase, Office of Management & Budget director Peter Orszag said on a conference call with reporters, stemmed from stricter scrutiny implemented by the administration”
What these clowns say goes without scrutiny from their press lapdogs.

As Obama considers any new stimulus package, he has to be very concerned about what he has been hearing from the Chinese in recent days. They are the largest holders of US debt instruments, and they are deeply concerned with what they have seen happen to the deficit in the past year. If Obama wants to issue any further debt, he may well discover that the Chinese aren’t buying.

if people could access their own medical records, we could also report any unusual activity quickly. most hospitals make you charge a fee to get copies of your medical records so nobody wants copies. and if you have medicaid you don’t see the bills and charges since it goes directly to them. I hope regular people will one day be able to access their own medical records just to be able to see what is on them.

Regarding FOX’s again inaccurate footage.
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I looked at the footage a couple of times and it’s obvious to me that they were showing the old footage as they went to commercial. It was misleading for sure but I bet it’s common practice.
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It may be ‘common practice’ for a network as shoddy as FOX, but it is not common journalism practice to present footage as if it were part of an event – when the footage is not from the event at all. Not at all.

I’m actually starting to embrace the term…at least I know I’m well educated, well informed,
Posted by: wow
‘well educated, well informed’.. hmmmm
please,.. report to your nearest secret FEMA re-education camp, bring your Orly Taitz birth certificate, and if your nice and respectful, you will not have to go before the death panel, but you will be taught creationism

It may be ‘common practice’ for a network as shoddy as FOX, but it is not common journalism practice to present footage as if it were part of an event – when the footage is not from the event at all. Not at all.
Posted by: tierra | Nov 19, 2009 12:21:09 AM
Now you’re a journalism expert. Why am I not surprised.
Posted by: YO | Nov 19, 2009 2:38:17 AM
At least they didn’t have to bus in union members to stand in line to make it look like a lot of people.
Lots of desparate libs clinging to some shattered dreams of Hope & Change – desperate to change the focus from Obama’s term going down the tubes.
BTW: Fox won.

“This was a production error in which the copy editor changed a script and didn’t alert the control room to update the video,” Michael Clemente, senior vice president of news at FOX, sad this evening. “There will be an on-air explanation during Happening Now on Thursday.”
Which seems to track with my one of my earlier comments that Jarret seemed confused when he was talking. Obviously what he was saying didn’t match up with what he was seeing.
I welcome the scrutiny. We can all only benefit from it.

Was Barack or Michelle on Oprah in the past two years? Have to check that one out…
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas
so you’re saying that Palin’s ‘credentials’ for politics are to be measured by her ratings on Oprah?.. no one denies her celebrity, it’s only the small cadre of palinistas that follow her like lemmings.. everyone else has no doubt about her unsuitability for anything else other than celebrity.

Obama Administration made jokes again. They spent our money $18 Mil on updating the website GOV’T.ORG. His Adm draged our nation so deep into a debt nation with his poor judgement and false claims on jobs SAVED / CREATED …
Now all the false jobs creation claims exposed and then HE CHANGED HIS TONE: VOW TO CRACKDOWN … THE MESS HE CREATED.
Isn’t it a joke? Who is running our Gov’t ???
It is too stupid to think that only the REPUBS complained about the spending. As common sense Americans who loves and cares our country, we DEM smell something not so right.
Cautious …

so, I guess your point is that Americans enjoy watching ‘freak’ shows on TV
Posted by: Repuke | Nov 19, 2009 2:19:58 PM
No. My point is she drew the highest rating. I’ll let you be the pundit.

We were a nation of war under BUSH.
We are a nation of DEBT under OBAMA.
The American people are tasting the bitter fruit they picked now, aren’t they?

anyone ever find that 9 billion in cash ‘lost’ in Iraq?
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No, the $9 Billion went missing under the Bush/Cheney administration and under the control of Halluburton (the company Mr. Cheney was CEO of just before becoming Vice-President). Don’t worry, it’s only a $9 Billion slip up – wouldn’t it be ironic if the money ended up in the hands of al Qaeada . . .
There was also another several BILLION went missing in Rumsfeld’s pentagon budget – announced basically the day before 9/11 and then swept out of memory in the confusion around 9/11.