Obama To Cabinet: “We Cannot Sit Back and Be Satisfied” With Some Progress Amid High Unemployment Rate
ABC News' Sunlen Miller reports: Fresh off his week-long trip to Asia, President Obama today assembled his fourth Cabinet meeting of his administration for “updates on progress made across several areas,” including national security, the budget, health insurance, and the economy. Mr. Obama said he “reiterated the urgent need for us to get to the finish line and provide relief, both in terms of costs and the quality of coverage that Americans are getting in their health care.” The main focus of the meeting, the President said, was about job creation. The President said that the economic team emphasized that there are “core strengths” to the American economy – with strong universities, workers, and entrepreneurship in the economy that will serve the country in the long run. Yet, the President also emphasized that the progress made is just one step – especially as the country faces a 26-year high, the 10.2% unemployment rate. “Our economy is growing for the first time in more than a year, and we know that economic growth is a prerequisite for job growth. But, having said that, what I emphasize today is we cannot sit back and be satisfied, given the extraordinarily high unemployment levels that we've seen. We have only taken the first step in curing our economy and making sure that it is moving on the right track. And I will not rest until businesses are investing again and businesses are hiring again and people have work again.” The President said this remains a “challenging” task because of the extraordinary blow the financial crisis had on the economy as a whole. “It is particularly difficult because both the financial sector and the housing sector were the biggest drivers of economic growth prior to the financial crisis, and so the severity of their pullback means that things are moving slower than we would like them to move.” The President will hold a jobs summit on December 3rd and said that part of the task of his cabinet is to generate ideas for the summit on job creation. “We are going to be bringing together people from all across the country — business, labor, academics, non-for-profits, entrepreneurs, small and large businesses — to explore how we can jumpstart the hiring that typically lags behind economic growth, but we don't want to wait. We want to see if we can accelerate it. And I'm confident that we're going to be able to do it because I've got as good of a Cabinet as I think any President has ever had.” In anticipation of the Thanksgiving holiday President Obama said that while this has been a difficult year there still is a lot to be thankful for. “I think it's also a time to remember that this has been a very difficult year, and a lot of people out there are having a very, very tough time. And I indicated to my Cabinet that as hard as they're working and as difficult as the political environment can be sometimes, we are extraordinarily blessed to be in a position where we can make a potential difference in the lives of millions of people. We need to take advantage of that opportunity and redouble our efforts in the months and years to come.” The President instructed his Cabinet to get a little bit of rest this holiday week. Turning to his right to face Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, he added, ”particularly the people who have been traveling around the globe for day in and day out and don't know what time zone they're in.” -Sunlen Miller
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Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 23, 2009, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
26 year high – interesting. So the last time we had unemployment this high it was in 1983, near the end of Reagan’s term. No wonder Obama’s approval ratings are mirroring Reagan so closely (its the economy, stupid).
Posted by: jhw539 | November 23, 2009, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Perhaps he is finally getting the message. The priority should be JOBS!
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | November 23, 2009, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
How many small businessmen know what their tax rates will be when the Bush tax cuts expire in 2011? And to the extent they are uncertain, how does Mr. Obama think that uncertainty affects their hiring decisions? Among his close advisors, who has ever hired a worker with his own money?
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 23, 2009, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
How many small businessmen know what their tax rates will be when the Bush tax cuts expire in 2011?
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How many?
Posted by: tierra | November 23, 2009, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Fascist Hyena, Weren’t those Bush tax cuts supposed to help create jobs. How’s that working for you?
Posted by: rich | November 23, 2009, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Actually, Reagan started at 60% approval; Obama close to 70%.
It took Jimmy Carter fifteen months to fall to the level Obama has reached in ten.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 23, 2009, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Not sure what the media expects the president to do on jobs, etc. The economy is clearly rebounding, and everyone knows jobs are a lagging indicator, the last thing to pull out of the bottom.
Posted by: Matt | November 23, 2009, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
“How many?” Rhetorical question.
Now try to answer the second and third ones.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 23, 2009, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Man! That was a profound statement. OK, mister leader . . . now what are you going to do about it?
Posted by: rplat | November 23, 2009, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
He still has not figured out the government does not create nor has ever created real jobs. Only government jobs and military jobs. He will never figure that out I suppose.
Posted by: Bob | November 23, 2009, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
People wanted hope and change, I hope you got what you asked for. Government run auto, banking, health care and energy next, all at taxpayers’ dime. Unemployment at 10.2% and rising, who will contribute to all this spending? Very few companys are hiring and will probably reduce workers with the addition of this health tax slapped on their backs.
Posted by: bailedout | November 23, 2009, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Obama is smart like night is bright.
Posted by: tanarg | November 23, 2009, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
Of course not, they’re radical revolutionaries!!!!!
Posted by: denn84116 | November 23, 2009, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Jake
Caught your question and answer to that idiot Gibbs today.
Must be frustrating, having to ask that loon a question, knowing he won’t answer. So much for spokesman of the white house, huh.
I feel sorry for you guys that ask real questions.
Posted by: James | November 23, 2009, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
““I think it’s also a time to remember that this has been a very difficult year, and a lot of people out there are having a very, very tough time”…..
as you sit in the White House with a chef to cook your meal with your family and 100 or so close friends.
You do not know the half if it and the ONLY reason you are talking about it is because China cut off your creditline.
Wonder if he or Michelle will put in some time at a local shelter with her fancy shoes?
Posted by: S. morgan | November 23, 2009, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
This guy is looking dumber and dumber as the days go by….BOY WERE WE FOOLED LAST YEAR….All we can do is hope for a better outcome in the 2010 elections….THATS THE HOPE obama MEANT, 2010
Posted by: Izzy68 | November 23, 2009, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
jhw: you need to get the facts right. Regan was president from 1981-1989. So how do you get at the end of his presidency? He took over Carter’s mess of high unemployment and high inflation. The fact is he created 21 million jobs under his presidency. Not losing 6 million jobs and counting and didnt even use a 756 billion dollar stimulus. As usual you are wrong once again.
Posted by: Jake | November 23, 2009, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
I think he is thankful that he can golf while the troops sit in indecision in Afghanistan, the stimulus numbers get cooked, bribery takes place in the senate, and most of his nominees have cheated on their taxes.
I guess he is thankful for a liberal media that censors the truth.
Posted by: Karen | November 23, 2009, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Fascist Hyena, Weren’t those Bush tax cuts supposed to help create jobs. How’s that working for you?
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Bottom line of Bush tax cuts and economic approach:
1) doubling of the national debt during Bush’s term,
2) unfortunate coincidental meltdown of the economy, huge numbers of unemployment, stock market crash, record foreclosure and bankruptcies
Posted by: tierra | November 23, 2009, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
B O = B S
Posted by: CW | November 23, 2009, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Wait I’m confused. Isn’t Obama using the excuse that the stimulus did save a bunch of jobs and everything would have been worse if he hadn’t done that?
So I guess Bush can saw everything would have been worse without the Tax cuts and we would be even more in debt and lost even more jobs if he hadn’t done that.
Posted by: Jeffrey | November 23, 2009, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
tierra…..HP is NOT a news website. You know that right? LOL
Posted by: CW | November 23, 2009, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
He is as sharp as a marble.
Posted by: wis134 | November 23, 2009, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
The economy is clearly rebounding,
Posted by: Matt | Nov 23, 2009 5:55:50 PM
Of what country?
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 23, 2009, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Bottom line of Bush tax cuts and economic approach:
1) doubling of the national debt during Bush’s term,
2) unfortunate coincidental meltdown of the economy, huge numbers of unemployment, stock market crash, record foreclosure and bankruptcies
Posted by: tierra | Nov 23, 2009 6:32:11 PM
Astounding for a man who liberals claim couldn’t even tie his own shoes…
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 23, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
With his approval rating below 50% the President has blinked. I personally believe the blink has lasted for 10 months. It’s about jobs, stupid!
Posted by: jerry | November 23, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Tierra it is awful when anybody dies however, nobody is ever denied emergency medical attention in this country. We already have a public option in place in every state and it is called Medicaid. Why arent you angry at the mother for bringing a child in this world without being able to properly take care of that child. I am a singl mother of two and have had to work two jobs at times to make sure I provided for my children which included providing health care. Maybe some blame needs to go on the mother as well.
Posted by: Sharon | November 23, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Satisfied with what. The man has done nothing. Wait, he has done one thing, not delivered on any of his promises.
Posted by: Rick | November 23, 2009, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
“updates on progress made across several areas,” including national security, the budget, health insurance, and the economy
What progress are they referring to? The budget deficit is higher than at any time in the past, nothing has been accomplished on health insurance, the economy is stagnant with inflation to come, and national security is in doubt due to the dithering on Afghanistan and the rest of the world perceives us to be weak. I know people wanted change, but I bet they are not happy with the direction we have been going.
Posted by: Jason | November 23, 2009, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Good for you Sharon, you are a great example to your children.
To many people in this country sit around waiting for the government to take care of all their needs. I don’t see how these people look at themselves in the mirror.
They have nothing to be proud of.
Posted by: CW | November 23, 2009, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
President Obowma just exactly where is the economy growing, in you garden? Please no more lies and fabrications from you administration.
Posted by: John | November 23, 2009, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Wonder if he or Michelle will put in some time at a local shelter with her fancy shoes
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Citizens-
the shoes did not bother me
the Kobe beef did. served not for guests but for their friends.
The President and First Lady are ill brought up.
One should behave as if one has been there before.
Posted by: Kate | November 23, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
jhw: you need to get the facts right. Regan was president from 1981-1989. So how do you get at the end of his presidency? He took over Carter’s mess of high unemployment and high inflation. The fact is he created 21 million jobs under his presidency. Not losing 6 million jobs and counting and didnt even use a 756 billion dollar stimulus. As usual you are wrong once again.
Jake | Nov 23, 2009 6:22:11 PM
End of his first term – I thought that would be obvious since I was comparing him to Obama and said, “near the end of Reagan’s term.” And Reagan did NOT create jobs in the first 11 months of his term.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 23, 2009, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
The worthless community organizer has no clue. Can you kool aid drinkers now see your emperor has no clothes. Not to mention a spine. Either bring the troops home, or send reinforcements. Quit using the health care ponzi scheme to delay your decision. Voting present doesn’t work now.
Posted by: Todd | November 23, 2009, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
I feel much better now that Obama has decided it is important. I’m sure it will all be cleaned up right away. We’ll just throw another trillion at it and all will be better.
Posted by: steve | November 23, 2009, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
The worthless community organizer has no clue. Can you kool aid drinkers now see your emperor has no clothes. Not to mention a spine.
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How sadly typical of the right wing – all name calling and insults as political ‘intelligence’. Sad what they bring to discussion these days . .
Posted by: tierra | November 23, 2009, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Like ink on a dress, Mr. Obama’s inexperience is showing through. It seems like Mr. Obama sees some good trading on the stock market, then he says the economy is improving. Then some time later, the stock market goes down, then he says, “some lag indicator” bs. Then if it continues to be bad, then he said that problem will be long term, hard to fix. Then the stock market goes up again, then he said that his plans are working.
Posted by: young_voter | November 23, 2009, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
I think lecturing to Chinese highschool kids will probably help solve the problems with the economy. Obama should do more of that.
Posted by: report | November 23, 2009, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Reagan not only revived America, he also made even liberals feel good about being Americans.
Posted by: Sigmonde | November 23, 2009, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
‘The President will hold a jobs summit on December 3rd and said that part of the task of his cabinet is to generate ideas for the summit on job creation.’
So what happened to all that stimulus money that was supposed to create 4 million jobs or was that 6 million – so many different numbers the obama administration has thrown out. So, if the stimulus didn’t work to create jobs, then can you STOP printing money now for all those EAR MARKS going to your friends?
“We are going to be bringing together people from all across the country — business, labor, academics, non-for-profits, entrepreneurs, small and large businesses — to explore how we can jumpstart the hiring that typically lags behind economic growth, but we don’t want to wait. We want to see if we can accelerate it. And I’m confident that we’re going to be able to do it because I’ve got as good of a Cabinet as I think any President has ever had.”
Really, you think you have a good Cabinet? Then why do you have to bring all these people from all over the country, who will probably be your best buddies and partisan. I thought that when you were running for President, you said you could handle this recession and get us out of it – why do you need to have another job summit?
I know the answer – because you CAN”T do the job and neither can axlerod or emmanual. You are all incompetent.
Posted by: Jenny | November 23, 2009, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
“Reagan not only revived America, he also made even liberals feel good about being Americans.”
ROFLMAO!
Yes Reagan came into office and promptly crashed the economy into the ground forcing him to rescind some of his tax cuts.
He pulled out of Beirut then so as not too look like a total coward we invaded the island of Grenada.
He used the welfare queen stereotype to pit the white working class against African Americans.
Then he began to suffer the debilitating effects of Alzheimer’s disease.
The best that can be said of Reagan is that humanity continued to exist once he left office.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 23, 2009, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
Yeah, everything is cool now Obama is on it.
Posted by: Pete from Philly | November 23, 2009, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
Jenny, I agree completedly the problem is noone realized this guy is a blathering bobble-head doll at voting time.
I guess if movie stars say he’s great, he must be. Why the he** do Americans take advice from people who play “make believe” everyday for a living.
Posted by: Pete from Philly | November 23, 2009, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
“He took over Carter’s mess of high unemployment and high inflation”
When Reagan took over unemployment was around 7.5%.
After jumping to 10% for about 9 months in late 82 and 83 it was not until 1984 that it returned to about 7.5%
Posted by: Ryan C | November 23, 2009, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
“the Kobe beef did. served not for guests but for their friends.”
ABC jpt himself “Here’s the list of President Obama’s invited guests to the White House cocktail party tonight — essentially the bipartisan bicameral leadership of the House and Senate.
Six House Democrats, six House Republicans, six Senate Democrats, six Senate Republicans. Their spouses are invited as well.
Hors d’œuvres — chicken curry, wagyu steak — will be served in addition to drinks.”
Posted by: Ryan C | November 23, 2009, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Reagan was such a bust he got re-elected by winning 49 states. Liberals came out in droves, apparently, and voted for him, no doubt because he made them feel good again for being Americans.
Posted by: Sigmonde | November 23, 2009, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Mr. Obama said “We Cannot Sit Back and Be Satisfied”. That’s why blogs like these exists because we are not satisfied. That’s why people will have one more chance to vote him out of office.
Posted by: young_voter | November 23, 2009, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
“Reagan was such a bust he got re-elected by winning 49 states.”
That Reagan was re-elected does not change what happened to our economy.
“Liberals came out in droves, apparently, and voted for him, no doubt because he made them feel good again for being Americans.”
Got any evidence at all for that?
You do realize Reagan Democrats were not liberal right?
Posted by: Ryan C | November 23, 2009, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Bush had the unemployment rate at 4.7%. Now it is at 10.2% (some say it is actually at 17%).
Posted by: Sigmonde | November 23, 2009, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
“Got any evidence at all for that? ”
Winning 49 states says it all.
Posted by: Sigmonde | November 23, 2009, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Posted by: young_voter | Nov 23, 2009 7:33:19 PM
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Heh, the Dow Jones is up about 35% since Obama took office. Smart investors are more than content with that.
Posted by: tierra | November 23, 2009, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Uh, the real unemployment rate is 17.5%, and that is using massaged gov. data.
We have all seen the effects of Obama on the economy.
The movie less than Zero comes to mind.
Posted by: Beholden | November 23, 2009, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
“Yes I can see how historical perspective would offend you. ”
The most recent Gallup poll has Reagan listed as the Greatest President, over Kennedy and Lincoln.
Why do you suppose that is true?
Posted by: Sigmonde | November 23, 2009, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
“Bush had the unemployment rate at 4.7%. Now it is at 10.2% (some say it is actually at 17%).”
The U3 numbers is the number we are most familiar with when discussing unemployment.
But the U6 measure that you mention is just as important. It measures under employed (those working PT but wanting FT work) and long term unemployed.
For instance during the Bush “miracle” economy in which unemployment dipped below 5%, the U6 figure was 8%+.
When in Oct of 2008 the U3 stat was 6.1%, the U6 was 11.1%.
Currently we sit at 10.2% for the U3 and 17.5% for the U6.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 23, 2009, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
Uh, the real unemployment rate is 17.5%, and that is using massaged gov. data.
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Listen, under the Bush administration the entire U.S. economy was driven to the edge of a precipice and over into complete freefall.
Will it EVER recover? That is really hard to say.
While Bush slept at the wheel, and buried the country in debt, the entire fabric began to unravel – the extensive overspending (of Bush and regular Americans). The gross consumer debt society. All of it driven so long and so hard on nothing it was complete freefall off the cliff.
And you have the nerve to blame this on Obama . . .. you should be ashamed.
Posted by: tierra | November 23, 2009, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
For instance during the Bush “miracle” economy in which unemployment dipped below 5%, the U6 figure was 8%+.
Jumping unemployment from 8% to 17% is an astounding accomplishment.
Posted by: Sigmonde | November 23, 2009, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
“Winning 49 states says it all.”
Not really.
There are exit polls available.
According to NYT/CBS interviews about 29% of liberals voted for Reagan in 1984(liberals were about 16% of the electorate).
Posted by: Ryan C | November 23, 2009, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
Geez, ya think it is time…why not wait until China has all of our jobs AND ALL of our money!!!!!!
Posted by: ross | November 23, 2009, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
“The most recent Gallup poll has Reagan listed as the Greatest President, over Kennedy and Lincoln.”
A year before JFK was up by one, now Reagan is up two. I imagine next year it will change again as JFK, Lincoln and Reagan remain popular.
“Why do you suppose that is true?”
Looking at internals its GOPers to blame.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 23, 2009, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
So what happened to all that stimulus money that was supposed to create 4 million jobs or was that 6 million – so many different numbers the obama administration has thrown out. So, if the stimulus didn’t work to create jobs, then can you STOP printing money now for all those EAR MARKS going to your friends?”
The stimulus bill did not have earmarks.
Learn what earmarks are and what they are not.
The problem is pork, not the method of how it gets there.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 23, 2009, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
The most recent Gallup poll has Reagan listed as the Greatest President, over Kennedy and Lincoln.
Why do you suppose that is true?
Sigmonde | Nov 23, 2009 8:30:21 PM
Because people don’t know history.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 23, 2009, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
“According to NYT/CBS interviews about 29% of liberals voted for Reagan in 1984(liberals were about 16% of the electorate).”
Well, there’s your evidence. Reagan made 29 % of liberals feel good to be American once again. Thanks.
Posted by: Sigmonde | November 23, 2009, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Posted by: Beholden | Nov 23, 2009 8:38:22 PM
The Republican’s favorite fall-back when unable to answer the simplest of challenges . .. . revert to insult and name calling.
And you’re PROUD of it . .. very sad indeed.
Posted by: tierra | November 23, 2009, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
“Uh, the real unemployment rate is 17.5%, and that is using massaged gov. data.”
Strange that right wingers are now gaga over the U6 measure of unemployment.
I would hope this represents a change from how we measure and discuss unemployment but I am rather certain the right wing would not mention this figure if a GOPer were in office.
And the Bush term in office pretty much proves that.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 23, 2009, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
“Because people don’t know history. ”
But you do, huh?
Posted by: Sigmonde | November 23, 2009, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Jumping unemployment from 8% to 17% is an astounding accomplishment.
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Under the Bush administration the entire U.S. economy was driven to the edge of a precipice and over into complete freefall. . .
Will it EVER recover? That is really hard to say.
While Bush slept at the wheel, and buried the country in debt, the entire fabric began to unravel – the extensive overspending (of Bush and regular Americans). The gross consumer debt society. All of it driven so long and so hard on nothing it was in complete freefall off a cliff.
And you have the nerve to blame this on Obama . . .. you should be ashamed.
Posted by: tierra | November 23, 2009, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
They’re making progress on the unemployment rate? Last I checked they said it wouldn’t go over 8% but now it’s 25% higher than their prediction.
Posted by: Huh? | November 23, 2009, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Obama’s poll numbers are dropping faster than Bill Clinton’s briefs. Or was it boxers?
Posted by: Sigmonde | November 23, 2009, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
“Because people don’t know history.
Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 23, 2009 8:42:31 PM”
That was funny.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 23, 2009, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
On the news, they said that they wanted the people to hear the President speak about unemployment at today’s cabinet meeting. Yah. I’ve heard him speak enough, I’m tired of the photo ops and I’m certain that he is simply not a mover and shaker. If he cannot sleep, he can give me a call at home and we can discuss my job prospects in a country where I might lose my home and my health care. See what getting two college degrees got me?
Posted by: catbite | November 23, 2009, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
“Zero. How much do you think he was paid, and what is your evidence?”
I’m not sure how much he was paid.
I was hoping you would know.
Do you think its ethical for a pollster to put a link to where one can buy a book when they are doing a poll to gauge interest on said book?
Again…silly me asking you about ethics.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 23, 2009, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
“Because people don’t know history. ”
But you do, huh?
Posted by: Sigmonde | Nov 23, 2009 8:45:17 PM”
Look at the results of the poll, two Presidents whose story is a biger part of their legacy then actual accomplishments, Reagan and JFK.
To be honest when Washington, Lincoln or FDR (for WW2 more than anything) are not the top President, we have a problem with history in this country.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 23, 2009, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
“How much do you think Qunnipiac was paid to find Obama’s voter approval under 50%? how much was Gallup paid to find adult approval in the same place?”
Nothing as they are reputable and honest polling firms.
So why would a polling firm put a link to buy a book on their website when they polled about the same book?
Anyone find that ethically problematic?
Posted by: Ryan C | November 23, 2009, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
RCP Obama Approval Rating: 50.4%
Spread: +6.8
Reagan was down BELOW 40% in his first term – and won re-election.
Seems to me the Republicans are crowing a little too hard, a little to early.
People have not forgotten the 8 years of Republicans in the White House. They aren’t that stupid.
Posted by: tierra | November 23, 2009, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
“The need to call large groups of people “liars” is well known as a psychological disorder.”
ROFLMAO!
So tell me is right wing ideology inherently dishonest (iow you have to lie to yourself to believe it) or is it the people that are attracted to right wing ideology that are dishonest?
Posted by: Ryan C | November 23, 2009, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
“So tell me is right wing ideology inherently dishonest (iow you have to lie to yourself to believe it) or is it the people that are attracted to right wing ideology that are dishonest? ”
What is dishonest about right wing ideology?
Posted by: Sigmonde | November 23, 2009, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
stop wasting the working class money on hand outs that are not earned….
Posted by: vickey | November 23, 2009, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Obama and his crony payouts are causing most of the problem.
How many more fake stimulus ripoffs do we have to endure before all his corrupt buddies are paid off?
How many more trillions?
Posted by: Beholden | November 23, 2009, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
“We cannot sit back and be satisfied … until the debt is 20T, unemployment is 25%, and all our political allies are billionaires!”
Posted by: Huh? | November 23, 2009, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
“Reagan was down BELOW 40% in his first term – and won re-election.”
So was Jimmy Carter.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 23, 2009, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Obama and his crony payouts are causing most of the problem.
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Under the Bush administration the entire U.S. economy was driven to the edge of a precipice and over into complete freefall. . .
Will it EVER recover? That is really hard to say.
While Bush slept at the wheel, and buried the country in debt, the entire fabric began to unravel – the extensive overspending (of Bush and regular Americans). The gross consumer debt society. All of it driven so long and so hard on nothing it was in complete freefall off a cliff.
And you have the nerve to blame this on Obama . . .. you should be ashamed.
Posted by: tierra | November 23, 2009, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
“Do you think its ethical for a pollster to put a link to where one can buy a book when they are doing a poll to gauge interest on said book?”
Yes.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 23, 2009, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
“Nothing as they are reputable and honest polling firms.”
Do you find any material difference between their current findings on approval of Obama and those of Rasmussen?
Please explain.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 23, 2009, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
“To be honest when Washington, Lincoln or FDR (for WW2 more than anything) are not the top President, we have a problem with history in this country.”
No we don’t. You do.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 23, 2009, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
We Cannot Sit Back and Be Satisfied” With Some Progress Amid High Unemployment Rate”
So let’s have a jobs summit that has nothing to do with creating jobs!
“BEIJING — President Barack Obama says creating jobs isn’t the goal of a coming White House forum on jobs and economic growth.”
It’s pure brilliance!
It’s because Barack Obama is to jobs what bicycles are to ducks.
Posted by: drjohn | November 23, 2009, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
There is good news!
Goldman Sachs, the single biggest contributor to Obama’s campaign, is seeing record profits and record bonuses for its employees!
And they’re doing it by taking great risks with OUR bailout money!
Obama’s contributors are doing fabulous!
How are you doing?
Posted by: drjohn | November 23, 2009, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
How are you doing?
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It’s unfortunate the Bush administration was asleep at the wheel while the entire economy collapsed and millions were laid off, bankruptcies and foreclosures skyrocked. Free-fall collapse in full momentum when Obama took over.
Not an easy thing to turn around.
However, the Dow Jones is up about 26% since Obama took office. GDP grew for the first time in a long time. Unemployment if not expected to begin turning around into positive numbers until about March.
Posted by: tierra | November 23, 2009, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
The economy did not go into the dumper until Democrats took over Congress.
It’s great that you’re thrilled that Obama contributors are doing great with our bailout money while we suck dirt.
Wall St does great and we suffer.
Thanks, Obama!
Posted by: drjohn | November 23, 2009, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
An idealistic president takes office promising an era of American moral renewal at home and abroad. The effort includes a focus on diplomacy and peace-making, an aversion to the use of force, the selling out of old allies. The result is that within a couple of years the U.S. is more suspected, detested and enfeebled than ever.
No, we’re not talking about Barack Obama. But since the current administration took office offering roughly the same prescriptions as Jimmy Carter did, it’s worth recalling how that worked out.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 23, 2009, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
The economy did not go into the dumper until Democrats took over Congress.
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Unemployment rates climbed steadily under Bush during his first 3 years in office. He never did get the unemployment rate back down to the levels he inherited in 2001.
And then of course the economy collapsed during 2008 while he was asleep at the wheel claiming it was ‘just a rough patch’.
‘Just a rough patch’ indeed. He can tell the millions of Americans it was just a rough patch now that the economy has been in freefall ever since.
Posted by: tierra | November 23, 2009, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
He never did get the unemployment rate back down to the levels he inherited in 2001.
Posted by: tierra | Nov 23, 2009 10:40:21 PM
According to the Bureau of Labor, The (not seasonally adjusted) unemployment rate in 2001 was 4.7. The rate was 4.6 in both 2006 and 2007.
2000 4.0
2001 4.7
2002 5.8
2003 6.0
2004 5.5
2005 5.1
2006 4.6
2007 4.6
2008 5.8
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 23, 2009, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
FH:
An idealistic president takes office promising an era of American moral renewal at home and abroad. The effort includes a focus on diplomacy and peace-making, an aversion to the use of force, the selling out of old allies. The result is that within a couple of years the U.S. is more suspected, detested and enfeebled than ever.
No, we’re not talking about Barack Obama. But since the current administration took office offering roughly the same prescriptions as Jimmy Carter did, it’s worth recalling how that worked out.
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I grew up with Carter and remember the disgust he made many of us feel in school. The Iran hostage fiasco and having that joker as president for our 200th anniversery was something that left a bitter taste in many American’s mouths.
Posted by: Beholden | November 23, 2009, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
Everybody get excited, and follow the bouncing ball: next week Obama is going to TALK about jobs.
Never mind that just last month he TALKed about eliminating nuclear weapons for the entire planet! For all time!
I mention it because two days after this Jobs-apalooza quickie, our real-life 18-year-old nuclear arms treaty with Russia expires. Obama dropped the ball on this crucial diplomatic initiative even as he delivered all his TALK. That real-life treaty has held Russia and the US responsible to each other since 1991, but as of Dec. 5, thanks to ineptitude and inattention, it is gone.
Like our jobs.
Posted by: Carol | November 23, 2009, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | Nov 23, 2009 10:53:08 PM
Seriously, you demonstrate again a reading comprehension problem . ..
The Unemployment rate when Bush took office in January of 2001 was 4.2%. (From the United States Department of Labor)
“Unemployment rates climbed steadily under Bush during his first 3 years in office. He never did get the unemployment rate back down to the levels he inherited in 2001.”
“And then of course the economy collapsed during 2008 while he was asleep at the wheel claiming it was ‘just a rough patch’.
‘Just a rough patch’ indeed. He can tell the millions of Americans it was just a rough patch now that the economy has been in freefall ever since.”
Posted by: tierra | November 23, 2009, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
“‘Just a rough patch’ indeed. He can tell the millions of Americans it was just a rough patch now that the economy has been in freefall ever since.”
The economy is hardly in freefall. That’s still to come.
Posted by: Chuck | November 24, 2009, 1:28 am 1:28 am
“‘Just a rough patch’ indeed. He can tell the millions of Americans it was just a rough patch now that the economy has been in freefall ever since.”
The economy is hardly in freefall. That’s still to come.
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I hope you’re wrong. The economies of the western world (the consumer based economies) has been struggling and attempting to hold things together after a fairly major collapse. Whether consumer based economies are sustainable at all is an important question.
I think we’re going to have to learn to live with less and learn how to do that elegantly and creatively.
Posted by: tierra | November 24, 2009, 4:20 am 4:20 am
“‘Just a rough patch’ indeed. He can tell the millions of Americans it was just a rough patch now that the economy has been in freefall ever since.”
The economy is hardly in freefall. That’s still to come.
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I hope you’re wrong. The economies of the western world (the consumer based economies) has been struggling and attempting to hold things together after a fairly major collapse. Whether consumer based economies are sustainable at all is an important question.
I think we’re going to have to learn to live with less and learn how to do that elegantly and creatively.
Posted by: tierra | Nov 24, 2009 4:20:31 AM
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I know we usually never agree, tierra, but I’m with you on this one (to a point)LOL. Consumer based economies have no firm ground to stand on without the businesses that PRODUCE something to balance it out. The problem, in my humble opinion, is the labor union. We all know we need to be making and developing new products and technologies, but we need to be responsible while we do it. Wages, benefits, etc. ALL go in to the cost of any given product. Unfortunately, the unions (who were once a good backing for the working man), have now become not much more than a Wall Street honcho with a big bonus check. And I would venture to say they are actually keeping people who desperately need a job (and would be willing to work for a less but decent wage) out of the job market.
When the cost of putting out a product is more than people are willing to spend for the price tag that will be attached, instead going for the cheaper (and foreign made) product, we are in trouble. But in this economy, alot of folks have no choice but the cheaper option. It’s really just a trickle down theory. CEO’s making too much money, union workers demanding more money and benefits, price of product is high to cover these overheads, consumers don’t buy it, product sits on shelf or lot, and… economy stays right where it is OR gets worse.
There has to be some give and take, but from what I’ve seen, the union has a seat at the head of the WH table. That cannot be good.
Posted by: Shoe | November 24, 2009, 7:26 am 7:26 am
Obama has a lot of nerve thinking he has anything to be “satisfied” with.
Posted by: tanarg | November 24, 2009, 8:50 am 8:50 am
From CNN/Money (11/24/09):
“Economic growth was weaker in the third quarter than originally reported, according to government data released Tuesday.
The gross domestic product, the broadest measure of the nation’s economic activity, rose at an annual rate of 2.8% in the three months ending in September, according to the Commerce Department’s first revision in the reading. The initial reading of the report a month ago came in with a 3.5% growth rate.”
Posted by: Mary | November 24, 2009, 9:03 am 9:03 am
More signs the recession is over and the economy is on the mend!!
From The Washington Post (11/24/09):
“Joblessness for 16-to-24-year-old black men has reached Great Depression proportions — 34.5 percent in October, more than three times the rate for the general U.S. population. And last Friday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that unemployment in the District, home to many young black men, rose to 11.9 percent from 11.4 percent, even as it stayed relatively stable in Virginia and Maryland.”
Posted by: Mary | November 24, 2009, 11:46 am 11:46 am
If our Babbler In Chief creates jobs, you can bet that most of them will be in the public sector (government jobs). A.K.A. non-productive jobs.
Posted by: Ron | November 24, 2009, 11:53 am 11:53 am
If our Babbler In Chief creates jobs, you can bet that most of them will be in the public sector (government jobs). A.K.A. non-productive jobs.
Posted by: Ron | Nov 24, 2009 11:53:16 AM
As states, cities and towns are forced to cut essential jobs for 2010 including many first responders, Congress and this administration continue to concentrate power within the Federal government through expanding existing agencies and potential new agencies such as those that will undoubtedly be created by boons such as health care. The effectiveness of States within our Union are continuing to slip away – with no end in sight.
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 24, 2009, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Consumer based economies have no firm ground to stand on without the businesses that PRODUCE something to balance it out. The problem, in my humble opinion, is the labor union.
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Shoe, I get the point you like to bash unions, but my original comments were way beyond that power play level of multi-national corporations vs. unions.
ALL of the economies of the western world (the consumer based economies) have been struggling and attempting to hold things together after the major collapse that began in 2008.
For a long time we’ve based our ‘wealth’ on the production and consumption of zillions of tons of consumer crap – a lot of it crap – that ‘satisfies’ peoples lives. A lot of it has been put on credit. A lot of it has been based on ‘cheap’ oil, massive shipping, cheap labor and massive pollution.
I question whether this entire ‘fill up your lives with consumer trash’ culture is sustainable at all. We’ve been sucking at that teat more than ever before – have we gone too far? I’m almost sure we have.
I think we’re going to have to learn to live with less and learn how to do that elegantly and creatively.
Posted by: tierra | November 24, 2009, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Hope? Change? Or Green Shoot? You be the judge…
From CNN/Money (11/24/09):
“Despite the frenetic pace of bank failures this year, 552 banks are still at risk of going under, according to a government report published Tuesday.
The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. said that the number of lenders on its so-called problem list climbed to its highest level since the end of 1993. At that time, the agency red-flagged 575 banks.
Mounting bank failures have proven costly for the FDIC, an agency created to cover the deposits of consumers and businesses in the event that a bank is shut down.
Posted by: Mary | November 24, 2009, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Obama = Good President.
Hillary = Great Sec. of State
Sarah = Pathetic, dimwitted, trashy, joke
Posted by: ch | November 24, 2009, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
For a long time we’ve based our ‘wealth’ on the production and consumption of zillions of tons of consumer crap – a lot of it crap – that ‘satisfies’ peoples lives. A lot of it has been put on credit. A lot of it has been based on ‘cheap’ oil, massive shipping, cheap labor and massive pollution…
Posted by: tierra |
Nice post.
I would add cheap credit to your list. There were a boatload of very greedy people who played fast and loose with traditional lending safeguards backstopped by an insatiable appetite for mortgages to securitize and leverage. And it is child’s play to hook people on easy credit for personal gain.
Banks continue to fail at alarming rates.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | November 24, 2009, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm