Obama Warns House Dems that Voting Against Health Reform Won’t Shield Them from GOP Attacks
President Obama didn't shy away from talking politics when he met with House Democrats behind closed doors. My colleague, ABC News' Teddy Davis, has the story: President Obama warned House Democrats on Saturday that Republicans will go after them even if they break ranks and vote against the Democratic health-care overhaul. “Do any of you expect the Republicans not to go after you if you vote against this bill?” said Obama during his closed-door meeting, according to a Democrat in the room. Obama's rare appearance on the Hill came after House leaders decided overnight to permit a vote on an amendment by Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., which would prohibit federal money from subsidizing any government or private health-care plan which includes abortion as a service. Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill originally wanted to satisfy the concerns of pro-life Democrats by requiring insurance companies to segregate government subsidies from money coming from private sources with only the latter being allowed to cover the cost of an abortion. Stupak and a group of Democrats opposed to abortion rights rejected this more minimal approach as merely "an accounting gimmick." Since House Speaker Nancy Pelosi could not get the overall health-care bill through the House without their support, she agreed to give Stupak and his allies a vote on the tighter abortion restrictions.
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Posted by: Ron | November 7, 2009, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
You Obama just doesnt get it. Its not the republican party they have to worry about it is the American people. This is just another reason for the honest, hard working, and independent thinking people of America that are tired of these politicians to all swith over to be an Independent. This would really rock their world as evidenced by the NJ and Virginia results. No extremeists from either party need to apply!
Posted by: janice | November 7, 2009, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Politics or not … WE NEED REFORM. Enough talk … pass it already. Its a crying shame that people DIE because of no coverage. Its also a shame that many are blinded by the fact that NOT covering the uninsured actually makes it MORE expensive for all of us ! My son cut his Achilles tendon in an accident, $40,000 dollars and NO insurance. Who do you think absorbs that cost ? REFORM NOW …!
Posted by: Jason | November 7, 2009, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Way to promote bipartisanship, Mr. President! Who’s the real “party of fear” advocate now?
Posted by: Publius | November 7, 2009, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
President Obama is a turning out to be quite the manipulator. He warns democrats not to vote against government-controlled healthcare (it’s not reform.) He warns democratic strategists not to appear on Fox News. He seems to be afraid of opposing views. He SAYS he wants to work with republicans, but he won’t even meet with them to discuss areas of agreement. Cross him at your own peril, as he seems to be vengeful. Not exactly what we voted for one year ago.
Posted by: JackSmith | November 7, 2009, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
The only bi-partisanship Obama wants is the liberal republicans. Obama’s manipulation into congress is getting out of hand.
Posted by: Brian | November 7, 2009, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
I agree with jacksmith! our president is very vengeful! Ever notice the look he gives reporters when they ask a tough question? How he never gives a straight answer, just belittles those who don’t agree with him (Fox News, Tea party attendees, ext.) Why are we rushing to pass this in the dark of night when nothing will take effect until what? 2013/2014? This guy thinks you can demand respect not earn it.
Posted by: whatsgoingonhere? | November 7, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Go ahead, ram it through. I will open my wallet. I will donate my time. I will do everything in my power to ensure Republicans and Independents next Fall becomes the great equalizer. Go ahead, Congress, cram it down our throats. It will be reguritated next year and you will be the recipients of what you sewed.
Posted by: DBC | November 7, 2009, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Jason—You should be paying for insurance for your son like my sister pays for insurance for her irresponsible offspring. Further more, your son will still not be covered unless he PAYS for a policy and if he continues to not pay for his own insurance, he will pay a big fat fine or go to jail. This bill is not going to help young, healthy people like your son who should be able to afford health care insurance. But, if it takes the US govt to make your son pay his own way, then I guess that’s a help for you.
Posted by: pam | November 7, 2009, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Republicans won’t have to attack these Democrats, their constituents won’t re-elect them anyway.
Posted by: pam | November 7, 2009, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Thirty years of conservative rule and now they care about my health care?
What is their healthcare Plan?
They are feeding us FEAR, They care about losing power for generations.
Their party is running fake revolts, tv propaganda, like a thrid world dictator. Now they are eating their own like cannibals. Republican!!!!yuck!!
Posted by: roger | November 7, 2009, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Interesting Janice what you pay for internet service and a computer you probably could have paid for insurance. I bet you have cable internet and a cell phone though don’t you?
Posted by: Morris Berry | November 7, 2009, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
So why is Obama cheering this on?He swore he’d never sign something greater than 900 billion. By the CBO says this is over a trillion.Ooops I am a blatant liar. I just hope no one notices.The obamatrons won’t and I know I can hide behind the main steam media.
Posted by: jonny | November 7, 2009, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
Repulicans aren’t the ones who make me feel any fear about reform its the Democrats who scare me. They hide behind locked doors to come up with this and vote to not show the American people whats in it..coupled by the fact they themselves wont be subject to it. And above all else they have had to strong arm their own party to get enough votes. If its such a great plan then why all this?? I want reform but not like this.
Posted by: carla | November 7, 2009, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Yoy people kill me. You worry about spending billions or trillions of dollars, that you wont ever see, on Healthcare. But you could care less that we spend that much and more sending our sons and daugthers to die fighting wars in foreign countries. ou all need to get educated about 1 thing. Who really cares how much healthcare reform cost? do any of you really know how much of your paycheck goes to send your children off to get killed? If the debate is really about not transferring debt to our grandchildren. Then how about educating yourselves about how much we spend sending our kids off to die in Iraq and Afganistan (costofwar.com). Oh and by the way who pays for there healthcare when they come back with PTSD’s or have lost limbs due to combat injuries. Wake up people, Republicans and Democrats! Healthcare reform is the least of our problems. Lets fight to end this war!
Posted by: brad | November 7, 2009, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
“Yoy people kill me. You worry about spending billions or trillions of dollars, that you wont ever see, on Healthcare. But you could care less that we spend that much and more sending our sons and daugthers to die fighting wars in foreign countries. ou all need to get educated about 1 thing. Who really cares how much healthcare reform cost? do any of you really know how much of your paycheck goes to send your children off to get killed? If the debate is really about not transferring debt to our grandchildren. Then how about educating yourselves about how much we spend sending our kids off to die in Iraq and Afganistan (costofwar.com). Oh and by the way who pays for there healthcare when they come back with PTSD’s or have lost limbs due to combat injuries. Wake up people, Republicans and Democrats! Healthcare reform is the least of our problems. Lets fight to end this war!”
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Brad, Why do you assume that a person who is concerned about how much the health insurance reform will cost does NOT care about the cost of wars?
It is possible to worry about both issues at the same time.
Just because someone does not want to spend excessive amounts of money on one program, does not mean they do want to spend excessive amounts of money on another.
As for who pays to care for our military’s health care costs? I care a lot. I can’t think of a BETTER use for my tax dollars than to see that our wounded warriors get the BEST care possible.
Posted by: malcat | November 7, 2009, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
I just finishe watching 7 hours of c-span. Like good soldiers the Republicans got up and repeated the same objections over and over. The Republican health plan does address several important issues. Pre existing conditions, if you have a pre existing condition under the R plan, you’re not going to find coverage. The R plan only includes three million uninsured Americans, perhaps that why it cost less. The R plan does nothing to curtail spiraling costs of insurance. R claim the elederly are in favor of their plan. AARP defies their claim by endorsing the option. R’s claim doctors are in favor of their plan. AMA defies their logic and endorses the option. It appears only R’s and pro lifers endorse the R plan. I stopped watching when Cantor got 5 muinutes and claimed his plan wiould keep the government from coning in between you and your doctor.
The R’s have nothing to say and nothing to do it with. They were against Social Security, before they were for it. In 1965 they were against medicare, before they were for it. Once they reach 65 none of them turn down medicare.
Ian has muscular dystrophy. It was costing Guardian a million dollars a year to keep this 37 year old male alive. Ian was covered ubder a group plan and his policy and benefits could not be touched. Unless the company discontinued coverage on all policy holders afflicted with muscular dystrophy. That;s exactly what they did. A Guardian executive was heard saying, “we need to get these dogs off the roll”. R’s talk as if the private sector is a garden of Eden for Americans. It’s more like a garden of sharp pointy granite. R’s don’t have the answers. All they have is a half baked give away to insurance companies.
Abortion was a big issue, why? What does abortion have to do with health care? The R’s want to change the HYDE law. Not allowing women to have a(n) abortion even if they pay for it themselves. R’s are clueless. One house Rep. said something I believe is true. A big difference between R’s amnd D’s is D’s have hearts and R’s have stones.
If you kick a R in the heart you would break your toe. LOL! All of these WHITE ANGLO Males are telling women what they can or can’t do with their bodies. I am not criticising those who are pro life. All I’m suggesting is do what you want to do and let others do what they want to do. It’s a personal issue and should be left up to the people involved to decide. Someone posted a good point on an other board. Something I believe to be ture and very relevent. People who are against abortion usually are also against welfare and government subsidies. Essentially R’s want to force child birth onto those who don’t want the child. Several possible reasons could be age, perhaps the mother is 15, not maarried to anyone to support the child, maybe the pregnancy is due to rape, incest, a gang rape, maybe the mother just does not feel she can raise the child, maybe she is a drug addict and the child is born into addiction. R’s have nothibng but disdain for women in many of these circumstances. But aborting the child is not ok. Once the child is born, it’s there to be castrated by the R’s. Looked down upon as unfit for society.
Anyone notice how all the pictures of children pro lifers show are healthy, blode haired, blue eyed, full faced lovable children. In their minds this is the child they are saving. maybe they should take pictures of the children they want to bring into the world un wanted 5-10 yeqars after they are forced into this world. Kids, on drugs, dealing drugs, robbing, killing.
Their mothers hookers, drug addicts, or just poor as dirt. Who are the R’s to determine who lives and who does not. Not at inception, but after they are out into the world.
minority-rulers
Posted by: minority-rulers | November 7, 2009, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
“People who are against abortion usually are also against welfare and government subsidies. ”
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Thank you, minority-rulers, at least you did say ‘usually’.
I am very much pro-life…before birth AND after. I wholeheartedly support welfare and government subsidies for those who need help. I work for my state’s Medicaid contractor and know how desperately families need help in today’s economy.
And, I’m Republican, conservative and Christian. So I’m one of those non-usuals.
Posted by: malcat | November 7, 2009, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
“Essentially R’s want to force child birth onto those who don’t want the child. ”
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Now here, you seem to group ALL Republicans where simple fact is ALL Republicans do not feel this way. In fact I don’t personally know a one that does.
I don’t want to force childbirth on anyone. What I want to encourage is responsibility before conception. (Please read on before getting angry at me..OK?) There are many ways to avoid getting pregnant. Unless both persons engaging in sexual intercourse want that child and are willing to give it love, care, and support until it is grown…use protection…heck, use more than one form of protection. And this is to the ladies: you are the one whose body will be changed, don’t leave it up to the guy.
I asked you to read on; here’s why. I agree with your reasons where abortion is justified. Rape, incest, risk of harm or death to the mother are the primary ones, but I’m not going to say just those.
NO young girl under the age of 16 should have to bear a baby; most those that young have bodies that simply are not ready. They risk permanent and serious damage to their bodies.
No woman who has been raped should be FORCED to carry that child. Let me get personal. I was raped. I became very very ill and of course the first thought was pregnancy. After 3 FALSE negative pregnancy tests, the doctors convinced me to have a bunch of xrays. Turns out I was pregnant; my body just didn’t register it on the tests. And the exrays..not good, they were twins and hideously deformed. I had to have an abortion. But if I had known before the xrays, I would have carried the babies because I was old enough (24). I was single, knew I could never have raised them, but there are many wonderful people out there wanting to adopt. But that would have been MY choice. I can completely understand other women choosing abortion after a rape. And I will defend her right to make that decision with every means I can provide.
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“R’s have nothibng but disdain for women in many of these circumstances. But aborting the child is not ok. Once the child is born, it’s there to be castrated by the R’s. Looked down upon as unfit for society. ”
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Again, please don’t lump all Republicans or conservatives or members of any group together.
Your statements here about ALL Republicans are not true. I and all Republicans I know do NOT want unloved babies brought into the world. We do NOT want to force women who aren’t ready to have children to have them anyway.
What we do want is for people to think before having sex. If you’re not ready to be a parent, the time to prevent parenthood is before conception, not after.
God bless.
Posted by: malcat | November 7, 2009, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
I am so sick of hearing the stupid comment, millions of people are dying because they don’t have heath insurance. I got a news flash for them, millions of people are dying that do have health insurance….
Posted by: northwoods | November 8, 2009, 12:10 am 12:10 am
malcat – good thing no one is asking you.
I don’t think many people are objecting to health care reform.
Most are just asking to do it the best possible way with the least amount of damage to individuals and business taxpayers.
Most would like to have a leader who tells Congress to create a good bill — not threaten them that they’ll lose their cushy jobs if they don’t “play ball” with the political boss.
Posted by: pcafe | November 8, 2009, 12:14 am 12:14 am
“malcat – good thing no one is asking you.
I don’t think many people are objecting to health care reform.
Most are just asking to do it the best possible way with the least amount of damage to individuals and business taxpayers.
Most would like to have a leader who tells Congress to create a good bill — not threaten them that they’ll lose their cushy jobs if they don’t “play ball” with the political boss.”
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Pcafe, did I say something to offend you? I did respond to someone who called me ‘nasty’ because I was a Republican.
I don’t see that person’s post or my response now tho.
I agree with you. In my ‘missing’ post I said that I did not approve of some parts of the bills. There are parts I do approve of.
One of the major things I have a problem with is the cost. The other is the fact we do not have the hospitals, doctors, nurses, and other healthcare providers to give the care that will be required when more people can afford it. That scares me!
I’ve read your posts before and have respected your views.
Posted by: malcat | November 8, 2009, 12:30 am 12:30 am
“I am so sick of hearing the stupid comment, millions of people are dying because they don’t have heath insurance. I got a news flash for them, millions of people are dying that do have health insurance….”
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What gets me, Northwoods, is they don’t say how many of those who died having no health insurance would have died even if they had the best insurance coverage possible.
Posted by: malcat | November 8, 2009, 12:42 am 12:42 am
Well, it’s going to get interesting now. The House passed their version. I hope the ‘public option’ they come up with in the end is darn good.
My employer will drop all health insurance benefits for US employees just as fast as they can.
‘You can keep the coverage you have…’
Yeah, right!
Posted by: malcat | November 8, 2009, 12:45 am 12:45 am
malcat – Whoops! Not offended. I was reacting to another post and mixed names.
I apologize – bad error!!
We are definitely “on the same page” with this bill.
As for latest reaction: I am surprised that the president allowed his blatant badgering of Democrats to “leave the room” for publication.
His talk had everything to do with “politics” and nothing about “content’ and “concern” that the bill would be good for all Americans — and nothing about how our existing policies will surely fall to this gov’t meddling / muddling.
Again malcat, apologies!
Posted by: pcafe | November 8, 2009, 1:17 am 1:17 am
“My employer will drop all health insurance benefits for US employees just as fast as they can.”
Actually the bill requires employers with payrolls above $500,000 to provide insurance to their employees or pay a fine.
Posted by: OB-Wan222 | November 8, 2009, 1:32 am 1:32 am
“His talk had everything to do with “politics”….”
OH MY GOD. You mean an American President went to Capital Hill and actually talked politics with member of Congress!?!?! OH MY GOD. What is the world coming to? LOL.
“…and nothing about “content’ and “concern” that the bill would be good for all Americans…”
Yeah, because no one has talked about that lately, heh? The bill has been talked about plenty and both sides have talked endlessly about what they think it will mean for the American people.
When the Pres goes to Congress to talk about passing a bill they aren’t going to spend a lot of time going over old ground – they’re going to talk about the political reality of getting something passed instead of talking about it for another dozen decades.
Posted by: OB-Wan222 | November 8, 2009, 1:38 am 1:38 am
Well it’s over in the house now. Hope the Senate can force some “Real” compromise in this Government. I am so scared of the egomaniac in the White House, he is on the way to puting us all in the poor house forever. Unemployment going up, Fewer “American Dream” homes for anybody. Tax increases looming, Inflation and then, No support for the troops, deploy some and don’t give them the back up you hand picked General requests, more of our brave boys die every day, and the decision never comes, He never went to West point, has no military training, knows nothing about how the Army functions, But thinks he knows everything about everything. God save us, we are getting what we asked for, CHANGE! Unfortunately only a few knew what kind of change it would be.
Posted by: GripperDon | November 8, 2009, 2:04 am 2:04 am
Wow, the comments on this just prove to me that Republicans have no souls. Funny that they’re the ones who actually think they do.
Posted by: Jackson | November 8, 2009, 2:24 am 2:24 am
To please Obama our Congressman turned his back on his constituients…Come 2010 Obama will not be the one to pull the lever at the polls. Hope he enjoys what’s left of his term it’s almost over.
Posted by: bailedou | November 8, 2009, 2:57 am 2:57 am
Pcafe: I thought that is what happened when you started your comment with ‘good thing no one is asking you’. That’s how the person I was responding to ended his post.
I’m glad you posted back. Apology completely accepted. Talk to ya later, I’m sure.
Posted by: malcat | November 8, 2009, 7:51 am 7:51 am
“Actually the bill requires employers with payrolls above $500,000 to provide insurance to their employees or pay a fine.”
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I’m well aware of tht Obi-Wann, The problem is that my employer pays more per employee for EGHP than the fine will be. The fine is based on employees who need federal assistance with premiums outside the EGHP.
My employer’s US employees make just enough that very few will need assistance if EGHP is dropped but wages are maintained.
Therefore, EGHP will go away. It’s necessary to read ALL the details.
Posted by: malcat | November 8, 2009, 7:57 am 7:57 am
Its’ not the GOP who obama needs to fear. It’s us independents.
We gave him a chance and he blew it.
Posted by: jonny | November 8, 2009, 8:10 am 8:10 am
The “health care reform” fiasco that the Democrats just passed is LOADED with hardships for the American taxpayer.
Take for example the requirement for every American to purchase a $15,000 health insurance plan, or go to prison for 5 years.
This is why Nancy Pelosi is smiling – because she and Obama and the Democrats are holding a gun to the head of American taxpayers.
Maybe it’s time American taxpayers return the favor.
Posted by: One_American | November 8, 2009, 9:16 am 9:16 am
It amuses me to see posters lambasting President Obama for telling the truth. It does not matter which way a Democrat Congressman votes, the Republican Party will be trying to replace him in the next election cycle. A congressman votes primarily to please most voters in his district as best he can determine. However, there are times (too many, I think) when he votes to please his donors (the special interest lobbists) and there are time when he votes his conscience regardless of what it will do to his re-election chances. The health-care reform issue will fit all three categories.
Posted by: msgijoe | November 8, 2009, 11:02 am 11:02 am
Just only one GOP member voted in favor of this bill…? Funny!! Give me a brake. You mean the President was being political?? and his intents have nothing to do with the bill itself or the American people??? But know that He is the only president in the history of the USA to get so far on healthcare reform. If he wanted to look good, he wouldn’t sacrifice being popular among conservative Dems, Independents and some Reps to get this done. I would like some of you to show that you can reason atleast before you address an audience as large as this.
The Bill has been passed, it will not restrict you any good, it will do all to help this of us who need cover. Buying into the fear politics of the GOP trying to run down a rat while your house is burning,…
IS REDICLOUS!!
Posted by: Meks | November 8, 2009, 11:16 am 11:16 am
The vote that occurred yesterday, on a 2000 page confusing Bill that was drafted secretly behind closed doors, with no time for the Congress or the citizens to adequately review it, contrary to Obama’s pledge that CNN cameras would be in the room and that it would be a bi-partisan effort, with total ignorance to the voice of the people, equates to a criminal act and the biggest threat to American Democracy since the Constitution was drafted and signed.
What else can you expect from a group of left wing Marxists, right?
Posted by: Ken Tito | November 8, 2009, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
we don,t need anything that obama are polis and harry reid trying to push on the american people lets get these people out of office
Posted by: DR JIMMY VAUGHAN | November 10, 2009, 9:32 am 9:32 am
Americans that do not understand Obama’s health care reform should inquire Canadians’ Health care. We Canadians enjoy the benefit of our health care system. And if someone does not enjoy it, they’re morons. Get the drift? Grow up and think about your love ones.
Posted by: nenita | November 14, 2009, 11:34 am 11:34 am