Organizing for America Targets Sarah Palin

Are they afraid of Sarah or just jealous? Probably both.
They should be afraid.
But I’m sure Obama isn’t losing any sleep over it. hee hee hee

Going Rogue
300,000 copies sold on the first day
Palin gave Oprah the best rating for her show in two years
Thousands line up in the rain and cold at book signing events.
Be afraid Obama. Be very afraid.

Actually, people are slowly but surely changing their minds about Sarah Palin. She is on the upswing while President Obama’s reputation is diminishing and declining. It’s not a coincidence.
She is defining herself and undoing much of damage inflicted by the MSM in coordination with Hollywood and the DNC’s relentless, unfounded and vicious attacks on her family.
Basing fundraising on hating Palin shows how petty and small the diehard liberals have become in order to protect their naked emperor.

Plouffe has the ability to unseat Obama and he is doing a fine job so far.

“We had taken in millions of dollars in the three hours since Palin had started speaking,” Plouffe recalls.
Care to share the data with us – or should we just take your word for it?

“style and substance”?
Seriously?
I have yet to find any “substance” under there… If you call repeating talking points “substance,” then maybe. Hell, even the title of her ghost-written book wasn’t even a phrase she came up with.
Substance? Really?
And style? Well, if the RNC pays for your clothes, I guess, the style can be bought.

She does use ginned up rhetoric–
Posted by: @Octavia | Nov 20, 2009 1:10:58 PM
With this I agree. Some her speeches had elements I did not care for. You may be referring to calling Obama a socialist, which I believe she did. It might play better in 2012 ;-) But I agree, there are probably less inflammatory ways to get your point across. But that just shows she’s not a slick politician.
And I don’t think she’s dumb either. She was governor after all. How many of us could realistically do that?
I posted this on another thread, but I have a sis-in-law in Alaska (25 years) with 4 great kids and 3 grand kids. They ARE different that’s for sure. I love them all and would put any of them up against anyone – honesty, work ethic, moral judgement, you name it.

Karen, be truthful, is it really just the fact that Sarah Palin is beautiful, accomplished, feminine, family centric, a “quick study” and PRO-LIFE that irks you? Be honest with yourself.

I don’t think she’s dumb by the way. Somebody said something about her being dumb. I think she’s wrong, vitriolic and dishonest.
Posted by: @Octavia |
Not a fan but if she debated Nancy, Queen of the Democrats, my money would be on Palin.

Karen, be truthful, is it really just the fact that Sarah Palin is beautiful, accomplished, feminine, family centric, a “quick study” and PRO-LIFE that irks you? Be honest with yourself.
Posted by: Krakatoa | Nov 20, 2009 1:37:14 PM
You forgot Reagan conservative promoting states rights above federal intervention.

“Congressional Report: Rhee did ‘damage control’ after sex charges against fiance Kevin Johnson”
By: Byron York
Posted by: Michelle | Nov 20, 2009 1:07:45 PM
I saw this and let’s not forget this is alleged. If it is true, it is sad because he is a proclaimed Christian and I believe he has brought those values into his community efforts.
A Christian Democrat. How does that wash with the right-wing religious zealot meme?

Karen, be truthful, is it really just the fact that Sarah Palin is beautiful, accomplished, feminine, family centric, a “quick study” and PRO-LIFE that irks you? Be honest with yourself.
Posted by: Krakatoa | Nov 20, 2009 1:37:14 PM
Frum’s got a fevah! And the prescription is more Sarah Palin! Isn’t Woodruff appalled at this statement? Apparently not. Where’s the outrage from other woman? Can you spell h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e-s ?
JUDY WOODRUFF: Palin defenders say the media continues its unfair treatment of her in this week’s “Newsweek,” where she’s pictured on the cover in running shorts. Palin called it sexist on her Facebook page.
But conservative David Frum says, she has brought it on herself.
DAVID FRUM: This is a woman who has got into a position of leadership by sending very powerful sexual signals. And we see that in the way that men like her much more than women do. – PBS

Palin’s book tour is somehow “dangerous”.
Posted by: Krakatoa | Nov 20, 2009 2:00:53 PM
delete “Palin’s book tour” – insert “Tea Parties”

Breaking Fox News poll: 51% now oppose Obamacare; 35% support.

How can that simple-minded Palin possibly be a threat to the Einstein in the White House?
Obama is so smart he turned our economy over to a tax cheat and signed an $787 Billion stimulus without reading it.
He’s so brilliant he can create jobs in places that don’t exist.
And how about bringing terrorist to NYC just to show how fair our justice system is under his watch.
Even though he has already declared them guilty and will be executed.
Look how fair Obama is.
Look how brilliant Obama is!
Yea Palin is dumb and Obama is brilliant. Then why is the WH so worried?

find you a bit ridiculous– like a kid playing “professor” to feel important.
Posted by: @Octavia | Nov 20, 2009 2:05:49 PM
It’s very simple @Octavia. You said she was vitriolic. I would like to know what she has said that is vitriolic. You said she was dishonest. I would like to know where she has been convicted of doing anything dishonest. If you have something to base your opinion on, that’s fine. Let’s see it and discuss it. I personally think they are unfounded. But if you don’t want to give reasons for your opinion that’s fine, too.
“type up my notes from the rally I attended for you, nor the comments made on the rope line”
This has nothing to do with your conclusion that Palin is vitriolic and dishonest. If you have issues with other people, that’s neither here nor there.
“asking for “research” when you’ve provided none ”
I wasn’t the one saying she was vitriolic and dishonest. You were. Why should I provide anything?

Obama’s Health Scare: If it ain’t dead on arrival at the senate, you absolutely WILL be dead on arrival at an obama hospital.
their plan:
1. first try to abort it
2. if #1 fails, then try to counsel it to commit suicide
3. if #2 fails, euthanize it.

Obama’s Health Scare: If it ain’t dead on arrival at the senate, you absolutely WILL be dead on arrival at an obama hospital.
their plan:
1. first try to abort it
2. if #1 fails, then try to counsel it to commit suicide
3. if #2 fails, euthanize it.
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More fear mongering.

The New York Daily News is reporting that Rudy Giuliani is “very likely” going to run against appointed incumbent Senator Kirsten Gillibrand for the remaining two years of Hillary Clinton’s Senate term in 2010. A new poll from Marist shows Giuliani leading Gillibrand 54%-38%–he’s even carrying New York City by a statistically insignificant 48%-45%–and in the five polls taken in September, October and November he’s leading by an average of 51%-39%.

=== and Alaskan bloggers===
Yeah. Let’s all read the Alaskan bloggers to find out what Palin has been dishonest about.
Maybe Palin should learn the following phrases…”as I’ve always said” and “let me be perfectly clear”. That should take care of any dishonesty she might actually be guilty of. Works for Obama.

Nate Silver: “Indeed, the most troubling problem for the Democrats may be that government interventions into the economy — meaning the bailout and the stimulus — are increasingly perceived as having failed, which in turn increases skepticism about government intervention overall, in health care and other areas. I’m just not sure where this is headed: perhaps when the jobs picture recovers, so too will perception of these other programs, which will rob Republicans of much of their ammunition (although since employment is unlikely to recover significantly before 2010, they’ll have plenty of fun in the shooting gallery in the meantime). But perhaps instead, the damage will be medium or even long-term: if the economy takes too long to recover, it may be perceived as being in spite of, not because of, programs like the stimulus. If that’s the case, the 2010s could be a lost decade for liberalism.”

I think she’s wrong, vitriolic and dishonest.
Posted by: @Octavia | Nov 20, 2009 1:10:58 PM
I was wrong. It’s not simple at all. I didn’t realize I was getting myself into a whole discussion about the various nuances of what “is is”.
Geez. Women get so emotional…

The McCain campaign staffers are practicing CYA with regards to Sarah Palin. They made major mistakes in guiding her through a national campaign.
The McCain staffers have been found to be petty and lying, not Palin.
Posted by: Krakatoa | Nov 20, 2009 3:34:36 PM
Makes for good talking points on the left, though. Of course THEY never eat their own. Oh no. Of course not. Heaven forbid.

The McCain staffers have been found to be petty and lying, not Palin.
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So its the Republican McCain campaign and the legitimate fact check organizations who are lying – not Palin.
I’ve got a bridge to nowhere I’ll sell you, or at least I’ll take all the money for the bridge and champion it until the money gets cut off – and then I’ll pretend I stopped it.

Total Swine Flu deaths: 2,500 to 6,000 from April through October,2009 (Centers for Disease Control).
Barry, you’re doin’ a great job.
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Regular flu deaths in America per year: approx. 36,000
The lesson as always. Right wingers lie and mislead.

Pelosi calls Karzai ‘unworthy partner’
Speaker says Afghan leader does not deserve boost in aid, troops from U.S.
“The president of Afghanistan has proven to be an unworthy partner. We cannot fund a mission where we don’t have a reliable partner and where whatever civilian investments we want to make, which are so necessary, will be diverted for a corrupt purpose,” Pelosi told NPR News’ Morning Edition.

Regular flu deaths in America per year: approx. 36,000
The lesson as always. Right wingers lie and mislead.
Posted by: tierra | Nov 20, 2009 3:54:37 PM
The comparison is deaths during National Emergencies – not who has the flu.

The bill is a “grand bargain”. Given that compromise was always going to be necessary, the bill isn’t bad.
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This is no bargain for the American people. The path our government is on is unsustainable. Adding more entitlements is not helping. Ask any economist, we’re going to have to raise taxes and cut spending to get our government back on track.
If our Congress wanted to help with health care they could have worked within the system we already have. This is government control and interference at it’s worst and our national debt will continue to grow.
I’m assuming you are of another generation than me …those in their 20′s and 30′s are going to suffer financially from the horrible legislation coming out of this Congress. You will be footing the bill much longer than me.

The funny part is SarahPAC will use OFA’s email to fundraise for Sarah. And the circle of life continues.

The press has kept us abreast of what’s going on with Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, the Real Housewives of NY, NJ and Orange County, the Osbournes, Angelina Jolie, Jennifer Aniston and Paris Hilton. Celebrities “sell”.
Posted by: @Octavia | Nov 20, 2009 4:15:32 PM
Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, the little Obamas, Bo Obama

I still think about this, it might sound familiar
Posted by: @Octavia | Nov 20, 2009 3:57:40 PM
Except it won’t peak at under 10% (oopsie) and it will definitely not go down to 5% in 10 years. Otherwise, yea, very similar. (gulp)

11/19/09
“A $4.9 Trillion Spending Increase
“The health-care plan unveiled yesterday by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has some in the mainstream media gushing because, on paper at least, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) says it will reduce the federal budget deficit by about $130 billion over ten years, and more in the second decade.
“But the supposed fiscal prudence of the Reid plan is a complete mirage, for a number of reasons.” – James C. Capretta

Just got my copy of Going Rogue in the mail.
I am one happy anti-government, right wing, tea party mobster.

W/re: “I personally believe she has a manager who tells her exactly what to say & advises her on just about everyting”. But, I bet this blogger just dismisses the fact that Obumba seems lost without his teleprompter.
Oh, and w/re: to Palin quiting her governorship……. you do remember that potus was midway through only his first term in an elected office, and as only a Junior Senator, when he quit to become potus, don’t you?
Like I said, You guys are a HOOT!!!! Thanks for the smiles.

Octavia,
I don’t know if I will vote for her or not. Depends on who else is running. I’ll tell you this much, I won’t be voting for Obama regardless of who the Rs put up. And that means I’d even pull the lever for Ron Paul if the Ds candidate is Obama.
There is no difference in Palin quitting as governor and Obama quitting as community organizer, state senator and senator. In fact, Obama began running for president almost as soon as his butt hit his senate senate. The junior senator from Illinois spent most of his tenure as senator on the campaign trail.

Why are you Libs so horrified/scared of Sarah Palin???? if she is the Dufus all you say she is, why worry about her????
Could it be she stands for everything you hate, such as; Traditional Marriage, Pro-Life, Capitilism, Liberty and Freedom, A Strong Defense, Family, Pro Second Amendment Rights, Love of Country….etc?????
Palin 2012!

I have found that those people who are sooooo happy to volunteer to pay more taxes; and who are soooo delighted to move in another direction and “not be held back” generally are already not paying their fair share and the direction they want to move in is toward someone else’s wallet.
When they say they “think differently”, it often means that they think differently than those who work, pay taxes, save their money, and take care of their own responsibilities.

If we’re going to talk about our prez’s resume, it would be nice if he thought highly enough about his own resume to release his school transcripts, and attorney records.
Otherwise, talking him up is just hearsay and speculation.

This is fantastic.
The President of the United States is cowering in fear of a private citizen, and a woman at that.
Michelle has got to go out and buy a new skirt for Barack to hide behind!

Posted by: Robert | Nov 20, 2009 5:45:12 PM
Excellent point.

@Octavia,
I notice, however, that you did not disagree with:
“I have found that those people who are sooooo happy to volunteer to pay more taxes; and who are soooo delighted to move in another direction and “not be held back” generally are already not paying their fair share and the direction they want to move in is toward someone else’s wallet.”
That seems very revealing. Good luck with trying to become successful by climbing on others’ backs. That only works as long as the others can carry the additional load. After that no one can get ahead. From what you’ve said about yourself, you are young. You’ll learn that life lesson one day…. we all do.

Only 33% believe that our country is going in the right direction.
More and more Americans are waking up to who is “dangerous” for our country–and it’s not Sarah palin.

Another feel-good single-payer miracle from the UK:
“A drug that can prolong the lives of patients with advanced liver cancer has been rejected for use in the NHS in England, Wales and Northern Ireland.
The National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) said the cost of Nexavar – about £3,000 a month – was ‘simply too high’.
“But Macmillan Cancer Support said the decision was ‘a scandal’.
More than 3,000 people are diagnosed with liver cancer every year in the UK and their prognosis is generally poor.
Only about 20% of patients are alive one year after diagnosis, dropping to just 5% after five years.
“Campaigner Kate Spall, who won the right to have two months of treatment for her mother, Pamela Northcott, in 2007, said it had prolonged her life by four-and-a-half “precious” months.
It had allowed her 58-year-old mother, from’Dyserth in Denbighshire, “closure” and “peace’, she told BBC Radio 4′s Today programme.
“‘The problem in Mum’s case is it took a year for me to fight for the treatment, so we’ll never know how well she could have done,’ she said.”

The tax cheating was the first clue:
Forty-two percent (42%) of Americans say Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has done a poor job handling the credit crisis and federal bailout programs, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Twenty percent (20%) rate Geithner’s performance in these areas as good or excellent.

2012 cannot come fast enough. Pres__ent 0bama and his group of thugs are a danger and a disgrace to this country.

uhhh… Oprah avoids the taxes she voted everyone else to dutifully pay as Biden says to exert our “Patriotism”
These far-left, Obama/Marxist-supporting Libs love putting these Taxers in power, yet they always stiff the bill themselves…. Crappy.
“Another reason she hasn’t is taxes. My sources say Oprah and her people have long limited the time she spends in Montecito so she doesn’t exceed the number of days mandating her to pay exorbitant taxes as a California resident.”

as opposed to npr-listening, comedy central for news watching YUPPIES. Wall street gives 4:1 to Democrats. The Democrat party is the party of Corporate greed and fusion of Corruptocrats.
Enjoy the taxes coming YOUR way.
Oh, hope you don’t get ill with anything that needs to be treated ‘quickly’, with ‘precision’ now that there will be 40mil+ added on to the current doctor-load, taxing on medical devices, and technology, and lack of SPECIALISTS.

@Octavia
What you don’t understand is we have lived through this before. I actually remember the Johnson presidency, and Nixon and Ford and Carter and this presidency far too much resembles Carter’s failed administration.

Sarah Palin is a marginal figure in Republican politics who gave up what ever electoral political future she had when she quit as Governor.
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She gave up whatever political future she had when she allowed herself to be interviewed during the last campaign.

I am so glad that my father and his close business associates are not around to witness the destruction of this nation. He was an accountant who mentored many new businesses owners struggling with years of no paychecks and long,long hours to final successes. Business, together with the Judeo/Christan ethic built this country and just as surly, an attack on those entities will certainly destroy it – as we are witnessing right now. SOCIALISM AS EUROPE IS NOW FINDING OUT WILL ONLY LAST UNTIL SOURCES OF FUNDING DRY UP.

SOCIALISM AS EUROPE IS NOW FINDING OUT WILL ONLY LAST UNTIL SOURCES OF FUNDING DRY UP.
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Europe and Canada both countries that incorporate elements of “socialism” in their politics and their cultures are doing at least as well, if not better, than the United States.
After 8 years of George Bush’s tax cuts for the extremely rich – the bottom fell out of the American economy.

Business, together with the Judeo/Christan ethic built this country
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Well, that along with the fact the land and resources were stolen from the original peoples and that slavery fueled much of the wealth that allowed America to get a leg up and ‘blossom’.

“…the land and resources were stolen from the original peoples and that slavery fueled much of the wealth that allowed America to get a leg up and ‘blossom’.”
Of course it was Englishmen who “stole” the land, wasn’t it? Do you hate the English for that, or is it the Americans that you really hate?
Is there any land on earth that belongs to its “original people?” Which lands might those be? And of the remainder, were they all stolen? If not, which ones?

“the share paid by the top quintile edged up from 66.6 percent in 2000 to 67.1 percent in 2004″
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | Nov 20, 2009 8:18:24 PM
We’re not talking about the top 20%, we’re talking about the top 2%.

Under Obama this country is on a fast track to complete collapse. WHEN DEPRESSION SETS IN, AS IT SURLY WILL (AND THAT IS WITHOUT SOCIALIZED MEDICINE), EVERY ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM WILL ALSO GO SOUTH INCLUDING SOCIAL SECURITY. WAY TO GO OBAMA SENIORS – YOU WILL GET YOUR HOPE AND CHANGE, BUT NOT THE WAY YOU THOUGHT!!

“jobless rates . . . fell in 13 states”
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | Nov 20, 2009 8:22:18 PM
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That’s good to see. I’m surprised . . . I was sure we were in for more job losses across the board for months to come . . . most people didn’t see improvement in the jobless rate until March/April of next year.

OH and I have to post this because I just got up off the floor laughing. QUITTERS DON’T GET ELECTED????
REALLY????
Tell me now, I guess only if your name is Obama and you are backed by Soros dirty money after quitting the SENATE.
Do you Demonrats even LOOK UP THE FACTS before you spout this quitter nonsense???

QUESTION? AFTER THE HEALTH BILL IS PASSED WHERE WILL THE CANADIANS GO FOR THEIR LIFE SAVING PROCEDURES? DUH…
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Where they always go . .. to emergency at their local hospital.

There is ONLY ONE reason Sarah Palin is hated and attacked so much – FEAR!! THE LIBS ARE SCARED TO DEATH OF HER. TOUCHDOWN TO THE POST COMPARING OBAMA’S LEADERSHIP EXPERIENCE WITH PALIN’S. ACTUALLY, OBAMA HAS NEVER LED ANYTHING. CHICKENS COMING HOME TO ROOST, BO??

. are you better off now or have your investments tanked?
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The DOW JONES is up about 35% since President Obama took office.

Sarah Palin is a marginal figure in Republican politics who gave up what ever electoral political future she had when she quit as Governor.
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She gave up whatever political future she had when she allowed herself to be interviewed during the last campaign.
Posted by: tierra | Nov 20, 2009 7:46:50 PM
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Fascinating. She has said in at least 2 or 3 interviews since leaving her post as Governor that her reason for stepping down was to free herself to be able to speak about things she wanted to speak out about and not have to worry about the “politics as usual”. Her hands were completely tied in that position, and she is obviously the type of person who likes to challenge the status quo, question certain decisions, and bring issues to the forefront on a level that normal, everyday people can understand. Is she always right? Of course not. But neither is Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Geitner, Emanuel, etc. I would think she’s not really interested in being in the political world anymore. But that doesn’t mean she can’t be a force.
What’s amazing is the amount of hatred spewed out toward this woman, yet she keeps right on going. I know there is no way I could have the MSM on my back 24-7, and ripping apart everything about my life including a special needs child. What’s funny, though, is watching the females of the MSM go after her with the “big green monster” flashing in their eyes. Must be hell to live in that kind of jealousy when the woman they are so jealous of is really no threat to them. After all, according to them, she’s dumb, she’s selfish for having a special needs child when she could have just aborted him, nothing out of her mouth makes sense, she’s a religious nut…. you get the point.
Oh, well, at least she won’t be president. Especially since the only kind of experience she has is as a community organizer, and a expertise at teleprompter reading, and a abnormal talent to fly under the radar while other people make decisions and she sits back and decides who’s going under the bus (must wait for poll results first). Oooops…that IS our president. Sorry, my bad.

“the share paid by the top quintile edged up from 66.6 percent in 2000 to 67.1 percent in 2004″
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | Nov 20, 2009 8:18:24 PM
We’re not talking about the top 20%, we’re talking about the top 2%.
Posted by: tierra | Nov 20, 2009 8:26:19 PM
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I would say it was another case of choosing the sample size to get the results you’re looking for. You increase the sample size from the top downward until the later percentage just squeaks by to show an increase.

Of all the changes Barack Obama is trying to bring about, there is one that would have stunned and dismayed his most ardent supporters, had they foreseen it during the presidential campaign. After all his talk of American values and loyalty to the Constitution, Obama is positioning himself to become the man who brought indefinite detention to the United States.
Under his leadership, we might soon have in our midst a group of people — accused terrorists currently residing at the U.S. facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba — who are permanently imprisoned, yet have never been charged with or convicted of any crime.

It’s time for people to speak their mind and support Sarah Palin. She is the first authentic person to come down the pike in years. I will never vote for a democrat ever again. Has anyone realized how much tax burden they are putting on us???? What happened to JFK…ask not what your country can do for you…..This is shameful this group of elected people in the House, in the Senate, and the President. It is time to vote them out!!!!

What’s amazing is the amount of hatred spewed out toward this woman, yet she keeps right on going.
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I don’t know anybody who ‘hates’ Palin – Palin’s only problem was she gave interviews while she was running in the last election. If they had kept her carefully scripted, she might have gotten away without people seeing under the surface. Those glimpses under the surface sunk her.

Hee hee HEEE!
“‘Until this year, any scientist, reporter or politician who dared raise even the slightest suspicion about the science behind global warming was dismissed and repeatedly mocked.’
“Inhofe added: ‘Today I have been vindicated.’
“The Ada (Oklahoma) Evening News quotes Inhofe: ‘So when Barbara Boxer, John Kerry and all the left get up there and say, ‘Yes. We’re going to pass a global warming bill,’ I will be able to stand up and say, ‘No, it’s over. Get a life. You lost. I won,’ Inhofe said.”
It’s over, indeed. Get a life, stupes.

the triumph of observable fact over junk science.
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“These basic conclusions (that global warming is occurring due to man-made greenhouse gases) have been endorsed by more than 40 scientific societies and academies of science, including all of the national academies of science of the major industrialized countries.”
We know exactly where the ‘junk science’ exists – with the creationists and the polluters.

INTERESTING THAT THE PHRASE “CLIMATE CHANGE” HAS REPLACED “GLOBAL WARNING.” Hmmmm. SAYS A LOT, NO??

INTERESTING THAT THE PHRASE “CLIMATE CHANGE” HAS REPLACED “GLOBAL WARNING.” Hmmmm. SAYS A LOT, NO??
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The change of the phrase ‘global warming’ to ‘climate change’ was championed by the same right wing researcher who encouraged the phrase ‘inheritance tax’ be changed to ‘death tax’. These changes were made for specific political purposes.

Sarah Palin may or may not be ready for the national scene, who knows? It really doesn’t matter right now because, quite frankly, she is not running.
What I like about her most is just how enraged she makes the left. Oddly enough (and really the funny part) is how women on the left loathe her. They are like dogs foaming at the mouth at the very thought of her.
It makes me laugh. They make me laugh when they rant on on what an idiot she is, yada yada yada and the next day Palin draws thousands of people at book signings. LOL – and just when these liberal women have launched the full force of their most vicious attacks. LOL. The whole thing is funny.
It also crystallizes a built in hypocrisy of women on the left: the only women rights that matter are liberal women and NOT conservative women. This isn’t funny quite frankly, it is sad.

I, for one, am willing to do my part: I hereby pledge that for the remainder of my life my annual carbon footprint will be less than that of Al Gore.
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You might be able to, you might not. As much as Gore travels to spread his message, he also has millions and millions of dollars of his own money creating low-carbon energy technology. As these technologies continue to come on stream, you might find out his overall carbon footprint is less than zero.

Nate Silver: “Indeed, the most troubling problem for the Democrats may be that government interventions into the economy — meaning the bailout and the stimulus — are increasingly perceived as having failed, which in turn increases skepticism about government intervention overall, in health care and other areas. I’m just not sure where this is headed: perhaps when the jobs picture recovers, so too will perception of these other programs, which will rob Republicans of much of their ammunition (although since employment is unlikely to recover significantly before 2010, they’ll have plenty of fun in the shooting gallery in the meantime). But perhaps instead, the damage will be medium or even long-term: if the economy takes too long to recover, it may be perceived as being in spite of, not because of, programs like the stimulus. If that’s the case, the 2010s could be a lost decade for liberalism.”

What I like about her most is just how enraged she makes the left.
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I don’t know anybody who is ‘enraged’ by Palin – Palin’s only problem was she gave interviews while she was running in the last election. If they had kept her carefully scripted, she might have gotten away without people seeing under the surface. Those glimpses under the surface sunk her.

The problem with the Global Warming theorists is that the predicted observations have just not happened.
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Please list the ‘predicted observations’ that have not happened. Presumably you have more than one or two?

What’s amazing is the amount of hatred spewed out toward this woman, yet she keeps right on going.
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I don’t know anybody who ‘hates’ Palin – Palin’s only problem was she gave interviews while she was running in the last election. If they had kept her carefully scripted, she might have gotten away without people seeing under the surface. Those glimpses under the surface sunk her.
Posted by: tierra | Nov 20, 2009 9:13:07 PM
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But that’s the point, tierra, Sarah Palin doesn’t WANT to be scripted. She just wants to be who she is. Obviously, alot of people like that. Imagine, a figure on the “political” stage who actually says what she means and means what she says, and doesn’t apologize for it. Refreshing.
And, yes, there are people who do “hate” her. How else can you explain so-called intelligent TV, newspaper and internet “reporters” going after a woman with vile comments, sending armies of “roving dogs” up to Alaska to uncover and/or make up stories about her, attacking her family, accusing her of being at fault for her Down Syndrome baby… I don’t know that I have ever seen anyone get that torn apart.
It’s a sad time when a terrorist within the ranks of our military is allowed a pass even though the information was right there PROVING what a radical he was, culminating in the deaths of 13 heroes. But if Hasan’s last name had been Palin, he would have never made it out of basic training. I’ll wait for someone to explain that to me.

Insults and name-calling? Moi? Why, I think they’re so vile and uncalled-for that I collected a few from a single 24-hour period a few days ago. See if one can determine their source:
“I am sure I am not alone is [sic] wondering how dishonest you are.”
“…The other was his patting himself on the back about NJ in which he lied about other pollsters.”
“I realize you want to avoid doing that because you are dishonest…”
“The dishonesty really is pathological with you.”
“Seriously is the dishonesty pathological?”
“But hey your pathological dishonesty has gotten the better of you.”
“…point out the right wing talking points he is pushing and how [sic] is doing so dishonestly.”
“Pathological dishonesty strikes again!”
“Your pathological dishonesty in calling him a liberal in order to give greater credence to his writing is kind of sad.”
“Your pathological dishonesty in describing someone who’s a hawk on foreign policy, dislikes unions and is a firm believer in ending welfare is somehow a liberal is just pathetic.”
By all means–let’s join together and stamp out these insults and name-calling!

I don’t know anybody who ‘hates’ Palin – Palin’s only problem was she gave interviews while she was running in the last election. If they had kept her carefully scripted, she might have gotten away without people seeing under the surface. Those glimpses under the surface sunk her.
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Sarah Palin doesn’t WANT to be scripted. She just wants to be who she is. Obviously, alot of people like that. Imagine, a figure on the “political” stage who actually says what she means and means what she says, and doesn’t apologize for it. Refreshing.
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Where you saw someone ‘refreshing’, to most people what was revealed by the interviews was a grossly unprepared woman with more cliche than substance, more gloss than depth . . . an an almost non-existent knowledge of the world or world affairs.
You’ll remember she even slipped in Ireland as a country she had visited – and only because her plane touched down there on the way to somewhere else.
She hung herself – and with any luck, finished off her political career. I presume she’s cooked in Alaska after all the scandals – and quitting in mid-stream.

I love Sarah!

“# 7 Glaciers disappearing from Glacier National Park-Glacier was never named for the few glaciers that were actually there,but instead for the cirques and other features created by glacial action during the last Ice Age”
Non-sequitur. Regardless of why they named the park or your opinion on the quantity of them the glaciers ARE disappearing.

“#4polar ice cap melting- at previous documented size at present.”
What? You lost me there N.
“#8 Disappearance of the SKI industry-note early opening of Rockies resorts this year.”
Global warming does not mean there will be a decrease in snowfall. Some areas may experience significant increases.

Ever been there Skip?
Posted by: Nephron | Nov 20, 2009 10:52:30 PM
Before I answer you I want you to tell me why it’s relevant. Do I have to go to the Moon myself in order to be certain it’s not made of green cheese?

Have you heard Barack Obama speak without a teleprompter?
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Yes, I have heard Obama speak many times without a teleprompter – in press conferences, media interviews and town halls he has appeared at (and there are many). He is almost universally well spoken, focused, with a grasp of many details, very well prepared, articulate and informative on almost any subject, with a strong overview – and as I said – attention to details as well.
The man was a university level lecturer on constitutional law for more than a decade – and it shows. He’s exceptionally bright and articulate.
The whole ‘Obama needs a teleprompter to speak english’ thing is completely fabricated rubbish and propaganda.
I personally believe its motivated as a cheap racist slur – regardless of that – it’s complete nonsense.

“Source: the Pembina Foundation.”
Does the Pembina Foundation demonstrate to us that the changes it describes were caused by human activity?
Does it tell us on how many occasions, and when, warmer conditions have prevailed even before there was human activity?
Does it tell us how many people should agree to reduce their standard of living, and that of their grandchildren, and by how much, in order to address this situation?
Did it, ten years ago, predict the global temperature behavior of the past ten years?
Do you consider the global temperature behavior of the past ten years to be a good thing or a bad thing?
Are you aware of a single computer model developed before 1999 that predicted the global temperature behavior of the past ten years?
If an inventor came forward tomorrow and demonstrated that he could regulate global temperatures to whatever level you desired, and that no one would have to be taxed, or made to change their way of life, would that make you happy or sad?

I’m still waiting for someone to explain to me how Hasan got through all the “checkpoints” on his rise through the military even though information was there to put him down, and NO ONE did anything about it
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You’re probably aware that Hasan served in the military and became a military psychiatrist under the Presidency of George Bush and – despite Bush’s supposed hard line – was not ‘rooted out’ during his 8 years either?

The man was a university level lecturer on constitutional law for more than a decade – and it shows. He’s exceptionally bright and articulate.
Posted by: tierra | Nov 20, 2009 11:22:32 PM
Uh, er uh apparently you uh, er, missed the uh these er, uh parts of his uh, er, sentences during the uh, er uh campaign.
Or maybe you feinted.

Ah yes, the Pembina Foundation -truly a scholarly society. Let’s see:one director is a lawyer-well, at least he has an advanced degree; another is on the local beverage commission-I guess that makes him an expert in ice; a third is a llama farmer-there is your expert on the Andes.I see the last director at least has an advanced degree in science-a Masters in soil microbiology.As a Microbiology major in my youth,I don’t recall having geophysics as part of the core curricula!Now about half of your examples of retreating glaciers mention retreats going on for 50 0r more years, eg. Mt. Kenya,Mt.Kilimanjaro in the LAST CENTURY, Caucasus in the LAST CENTURY,etc. Aren’t you proving that the glacial retreat that you claim is actually a natural phenomenon that has been ongoing before the supposed anthropogenic warming process started?

Yes, I have heard Obama speak many times without a teleprompter – in press conferences, media interviews and town halls he has appeared at (and there are many).
Posted by: tierra | Nov 20, 2009 11:22:32 PM
Go listen to the Townhall Meeting in St. Petersburg, Florida when he responds to the young African-American, and then come back here and tell us how articulate he is. Without a teleprompter, he can barely piece together a complete sentence.

Go listen to the Townhall Meeting in St. Petersburg, Florida when he responds to the young African-American, and then come back here and tell us how articulate he is
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Oh, you found an instance where he wasn’t articulate – good for you. You get a little red star.
Try watching all of his media interviews and all his town halls, not one question in one situation – before you PRETEND to give an informed opinion.
Again, your bias speaks very loudly.

“The deciding factor is the science, and the stakes, and the need for an investment in alternate energy anyway for other reasons.”
You and every free person on earth are now, and long have been, free to invest in alternative energy. I lustily encourage you to do so to the extent that you feel that it makes financial and economic sense.
But if by “invest” you mean that politicians should allocate money forcibly taken from others into a scheme that they somehow recognize as efficient while entrpreneurs responsible for their own money do not, then I implore you to start without me.

On the other hand, Ike was alert enough to kick Oswald out of the Corps. Why, we mist inquire, was Obama content to allow Major Hasan to continue to develop his sinister plot for fully nine months after becoming president?
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You seem to have totally missed the point. Hasan was in the military under Bush for YEARS and – despite Bush’s boasting about rooting out terrorists – was allowed to remain in the military.
According to the Washington Post, Hasan made a presentation titled “The Koranic World View As It Relates to Muslims” in the U.S. Military during his senior year of residency at Walter Reed. The presentation, which was not well received by some attendees, recommended that the Department of Defense “should allow Muslims Soldiers the option of being released as “Conscientious objectors” to increase troop morale and decrease adverse events.”
Again, this presentation was made ON GEORGE BUSH’s WATCH (June 2007), not Obama’s.
It seems Mr. Bush – the boastful rooter out of terrorists – missed this. And it seems your missing this too.
Lets give credit where credit is due.

“Please, FH, you can’t be serious (can you?)”
Of course not, Octavia. I was responding to Tierra, in which case seriousness is not really an option.

Do you half-wits . .. .
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We must have made some strong points Octavia – they’ve degenerated to the name calling and insults again . . .
Anyone who has paid any attention to Obama’s media interviews, town hall gatherings or news conferences knows the man is very smart and very well-spoken – they’re wallowing in the feebleness of their right wing parroting points.

Obama has no plan yet for AFGHANISTAN. He might wish he can vote PRESENT as he did in his old senate days.
I wonder why no journalists raised a question on this issue during the campaign which could tell a lot about Obama’s judgement, courage and his world view, his motive on voting O …
I am an ordinary common sense mid-age woman who didn’t care about politics much before the election. I noticed there was sth. wrong not to question his “O” vote. There were not a few of them, there were a lot of “O” VOTE! Isn’t it scary that we elected a president hiding so much of his thoughts / views from us?

We must have made some strong points Octavia – they’ve degenerated to the name calling and insults again . . .
Posted by: tierra | Nov 21, 2009 12:19:37 AM
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Nah, I could care less. You probably missed my comments from earlier today. I am waaaayyy to old and jaded to be ruffled by you clowns… ;-)
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Hmm, based on your previous comments, I thought you were just one of those wingnuts.
Posted by: David | Nov 20, 2009 10:49:40 AM
I’m not surprised. I do go off sometimes! But those loopy liberals get me sooooooooooooo mad! Argh! (Just kidding. Sort of. No really, I’m kidding…)
Most of the time I find the whole thing great entertainment. It’s like watching a football game on tv. You can watch for a while, switch over to a movie, and then go back to the game. Surprise! They’re still out there fighting! I can leave this blog for a while, come back, and surprise! the battle is still raging! The “nutjobs” (a Seinfeld reference) are still going at it!
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | Nov 20, 2009 11:38:28 AM

Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | Nov 21, 2009 12:38:12 AM
Regardless, you still degenerated to the name calling and insults . . . a loser’s tactic.

Seriously folks, it’s a Friday night…enjoy yourselves a little.

We already elected a president with no exective experience. We should be extremely careful on next election.
I like Sarah Palin but her likeability would not be a factor for me. I hope HILLARY will consider her bid for WH. We need her.

The reason the AP will factcheck Palin’s book is politics, sure and simple.Why isn’t the AP factchecking Barack Obama’s book when this week he impeached his authorship by claiming to have met his half-brother “a couple of years ago” when his book has an elaborate story of them meeting in Kenya in 1988?Why didn’t they factcheck “Audacity of Hope” when Rev. Wright’s racist and anti-Semetic comments became a public issue? The press coverage of AP can be summed up by the last scene of “The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance”.

section Section 1233 of HR 3200…
…just for effect. LOL

Mr Plouffe:
Don’t think so!
The boon for the Obama campaign was
the clueless ineptness of the
political operatives who ran the
McCain/Palin Campaign!
Those same boobs who are now attacking
Sarah Palin.
In spite of their incompetence
Senator McCain might have won if
the financial crisis had occured
after the election not before it!

Krakatoa wrote: “If there are no ‘Death Panels’ then why did members of Congress announce that section Section 1233 of HR 3200 needed to be rewritten or removed?”
The only announcement I heard about was when Chuck Grassley said the Senate Finance Committee would be removing the end of life provision from their version of the bill. Sarah Palin then falsely claimed on Facebook that the Finance Committee announced they were removing section 1233 from HR 3200.
What announcement are you talking about, Krakatoa?

There may not be death panels, but I can assure you that there will be rationing.
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As the world’s resources dwindle, rationing will become a fact of life in all areas – the trick is going to be how to do this with elegance and creativity.
No more sucking at the consumer society teat for infantile satisfaction – time to grow up.

There may not be death panels, but I can assure you that there will be rationing.
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As the world’s resources dwindle, rationing will become a fact of life in all areas – the trick is going to be how to do this with elegance and creativity.
No more sucking at the consumer society teat for infantile satisfaction – time to grow up.
Posted by: tierra | Nov 21, 2009 4:50:08 PM
tierra, I’d just like to ask you… do you own a hybrid automobile? Do you use “regular” electricity or do you have solar panels, windmills, LED lights in every socket, and so on? If you do use standard electricity, do you turn off every appliance, tv, computer, lamp, etc. as soon as you can after using them or better yet, do you ration your usage time on them? Do you recycle like you are supposed to? Do you eat red meat? Unless you are prepared to say that you are doing EVERYTHING right to save our “resources”, then please get off your high horse.
But you are right, there’s not going to be anymore sucking at the consumer society teat. There won’t need to be. The government’s is much more appealing. Who needs to make things and sell them and who needs to buy them when we have big brother giving us everything we need?

PS: Krakatoa: Right on!

Do you notice how misogynist this pack is?
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I don’t know anyone who hates Palin – Palin’s trouble is she sunk herself when she allowed herself to be interviewed during the election campaign – and revealed just how little there was under the surface gloss and the cliches.

I just watched the show hosted by Jon Stwart showing OBAMA’s hair getting grey during his interview with NBC. It is so funny.
Of course his hair will get grey becuase he pays too much attention on minor things like attacking FOX, attacking Palin,taking care of SEIU, ACORN, Tax Cheat on the heat seat bla bla bla …
Mind your major business, your hair will be OK, dear president OBAMA.

“Palin’s trouble is she sunk herself when she allowed herself to be interviewed during the election campaign…”
No, her problem was that she allowed CBS and the other networks to tape her for several hours, in which they aired only a few cherry picked minutes. Whereas she should have given only 15-minute, live interviews.
It’s not easy to hit the national scene, from out of the blue, as a VP candidate and have to stick to the presidential candidate’s views–especially when you don’t agree on an issue. It’s always much easier to express your own views and convictions.
Will she be a viable candidate for the GOP in 2012? Who knows! At least if she decides to run, next time around she will be involved in the primary debates and elections. And next time she will control the shots instead of a running mate’s managers.

Democrats call you un-American if you don’t want KSM brought to NY for trial and they call Sarah Palin dangerous.
What absolute idiocy.

There are more of US than there are of YOU! If you target Sarah Palin, you are targeting MILLIONS of loyal supporters of hers. Good LUCK! We win, you lose!

“There are more of US than there are of YOU! If you target Sarah Palin, you are targeting MILLIONS of loyal supporters of hers.”
Are those actual millions or Beckian millions?(As in the miracle of 9/12, when Beck turned 70,000 into 1.7 million)

“There are more of US than there are of YOU! — This statement epitomizes the juvenile mindset of the palin, bagger, birther, fundie crowd. What’s sad for moderate GOPers is their party’s being split into multiple ideological factions by their gullible & stuperstitious conservative brethren. Eventually this party of nut cases will shrink to the size where we can drown them all in a bath tub. Oh Happy Days! PALIN-BACHMAN (or COLTER or BECK or LIMBAUGH, etc.) in 2012!

mjishernameo: “All those femstudies classes….and they hate women. Maybe we need some hate crime legislation to protect Sarah.” — Actually they love women. But what happens when you have the benefit of ‘all those femstudies’ is that you are better able to identify liars, creeps and conservative wierdos. Palin merely got caught in that net.

@Octavia,
Just got back in town and noticed your entry on this subject.
First, I don’t listen to Dennis Miller and if I did and he said something like I posted I would have given him the reference. I watch O’Reilly from time to time but never saw anything from Miller on this subject. If I had heard Miller say it I would have given him the reference.
Second, there is a long list of female (and male) liberals that have gone over the top in their assault against Palin. Chris Matthews had an exchange with a woman on his show (if I cared I would look up the name, but, I don’t so I won’t) about how poorly written Palin’s book is and made a few jokes about her lame style in general. Forget her message they decided it was good sport to attack her ability to write. The core argument being not only is she a commoner she writes like one too. (You might check to see the first weekend results of her “common” book sales – they topped 300,000) There are many more – many more.
However, I don’t want to waste any more time with a poster than draws the conclusion from my post that I have some problem with women. This is the same ad hominem attacks that characterize liberals I view this as the “when they run out of real facts, attack the opponent’s character” mentality or, in your case” run a (pseudo) psycho analysis that suggests some kind of having-it-in for women” In a word, I won’t stoop to the level of trying to engage in a conversation with such a vacuous back stop as your stock artillery. And, you opened with this assertion; it is a kind of premise from which the rest of your argument flows. (I guess) It all has this shroud of intellectualism but, frankly, it is vacuous, nonsensical and weak.

JL: “If those attacking Palin would care to just review her record rather than focus on personal attacks..” — Ok lets see: bush failed at every business he ever tried to run and palin quit a governorship that was more than she could handle. Funny what passes for a good job in the minds of cons. And in their denial they lose more and more congressional seats every election cycle. Thanks to the birthers, baggers and self-destruct-sarah, by 2012 the republocos will be no more.

Palin WAS… A very HIGH SECURITY CLEARANCE as Govenor..LOOK IT UP ..uninformed.. SHE HAS DONE MORE than most of you even know about!!!! SHe is qualified, btw I see Gheitner HAS done exactly what they accused Palin of and she was innocent…Check out the AIG and what Gheitner told AIG to HIDE!!!! Palin innocnet of all charges…Gheitner,DODD,Frank ect guilty. CHeck it all out and get informed