President Obama Announces ‘Jobs Summit’
ABC News’ Rachel Martin reports: President Obama today announced a “job creation forum” that will take place at the White House sometime in December. In short remarks today before leaving on his trip to Asia, the president said that while the Recovery Act had worked to stabilize the financial system and abate the foreclosure and lending crisis, unemployment is still on the rise. “The economic growth that we’ve seen has not yet let to the job growth that we desperately need,” he said. The president called job creation a “great challenge” and one that is administration is “absolutely determined to meet.” He went on to acknowledge that “there are limits to what government can and should do, even during such difficult times. But we have an obligation to consider every additional, responsible step that we can take to encourage accelerate job creation in this country.” The jobs conference will include chief executives from around the country, economists, non-profits and representatives from labor unions. The president said he’s open to hearing “any good idea” to stimulate job growth and incentivize employers to start hiring again. House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, panned the event, saying Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., recently hosted a similar “PR stunt” that “failed to produce a bipartisan job creation plan for out-of-work families struggling to make ends meet.” “Americans are asking ‘where are the jobs’ but all they are getting from out-of-touch Washington Democrats is more spending, more debt, and now, more talk,” Boehner said in a written statement shortly after the president’s announcement. “The nation’s jobs crisis demands immediate action, which is why Republicans sent a letter to the president last month reiterating our common-sense solutions to help small businesses create jobs and get the economy moving again. “Washington Democrats’ half-hearted approach to the jobs crisis pales in comparison to the fierce urgency with which they rammed through Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s 2,000-page, job-killing government takeover of health care,” Boehner added. — Rachel Martin

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Obama’s proposed “forum” next month in the White House to solicit suggestions on how to improve the economy is scarily reminiscent of when Louis XIV’s finance minister Jean-Baptiste Colbert gathered French businessmen to ask them how the monarchy could help the economy.
The answer: “LAISSEZ-FAIRE!” (leave it alone)
How appropriate and great would it be for YOU to bring this up to Obama next month?
Posted by: Jeff B | November 12, 2009, 10:35 am 10:35 am
Right- unemployment is still on the rise, yet when ear leader was trying to get the stimulus passed he said unemployment would PEAK at 8.75%.
Wow, we’re past 10% now. By all means, let’s have the empty suit talk some more. That’ll help, you bet.
Posted by: 2Brixshy | November 12, 2009, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Jobs summit?
Obama said that the stimulus package would have an immediate impact on jobs.
Well, it did. It killed off many more jobs. Millions of them.
The more Obama does for “jobs” the fewer there are. Not everyone in the country can be a community organizer or work for ACORN. Someone has to actually make something.
Posted by: drjohn | November 12, 2009, 10:39 am 10:39 am
What do you expect? Obama is nothing more than a community organizer and as such unable to make a decision. He only teaches others how to game the system.
Posted by: John | November 12, 2009, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Is this just a fancy way to pretend that more jobs will be saved or created?
Wow a Job Summit.
Sounds like Obama is really working hard on jobs.
Nice front so that Obama can focus on what he really cares about–his legacy and gov’t run health care.
Posted by: hank | November 12, 2009, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Why do we need a jobs summit.
Obama and Biden said the stimulus is working great.
Posted by: millie | November 12, 2009, 10:45 am 10:45 am
The Jobs Summit first announcement?
“This Jobs Summit saved or created 586 jobs!”
lol, fail.
Posted by: Huh? | November 12, 2009, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Well at least the people at the summit
will be working. What a joke. This guy
who was going to change everything has
not done one thing other than “think”
about things. I guess that is why he
won the peace prize too. He has been
and continues to believe that wishes
are the same as results. He needs to
grow up.
Posted by: wis134 | November 12, 2009, 10:51 am 10:51 am
I think this is a mistake for the President. If the job picture does not improve after the summit, he will be blamed.
Posted by: Terry | November 12, 2009, 10:55 am 10:55 am
I would prefer that the makeup of the forum drop the bigtime CEO’s, the labor unions (God forbid..SEIU?), and the other drudges mentioned. Now that the POTUS has finally figured out that we have a severe employment problem that can’t be resolved by the”giants of industry”….who are primarily overseas anyway……get non-TARP banks…smaller, wiser, who thirst for the ability to get credit out to the small business dreamers and owners…but please, no more of Obama’s giveaways and takeovers….hell, invite the small business owners themselves…they will tell the Washington crew what is going on out in the real world……but spare us the bigshots, please.
Posted by: justj joey | November 12, 2009, 11:02 am 11:02 am
Obama doesn’t care about the millions of Americans unemployed, he’s worried about HIS job, and the jobs of the Democrats who keep him in power.
2010 is coming up and he knows we are going to drain the swamp.
And when we clean house–Obama becomes a lame duck.
They are in a full blown panic!
And they should be.
Posted by: mick | November 12, 2009, 11:05 am 11:05 am
PS…and no more ragtime about the government’s role in so-called “Stimulus Job Creation”…..the numbers are fanciful…not factual…and the Administration really looks foolish in the attempt to suggest that something that didn’t happen happened!
Posted by: justj joey | November 12, 2009, 11:06 am 11:06 am
How does Obama keep a straight face when he claims to have saved a million jobs?
Everyday another report comes out about how the WH has exaggerated claims about created/saved jobs.
Even the MSM is on it.
That’s how bad the stimulus is.
Posted by: riley | November 12, 2009, 11:10 am 11:10 am
Will they announce at the ‘Jobs Summit’ why Obama hasn’t released most of the ‘stimulus money’ which was supposed to create jobs?
hint: It’s being held until the 2010 election cycle because the primary purpose is to create goodwill for Democratic candidates.
Posted by: Joe White | November 12, 2009, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Pretty much anyone who would be at that summit talking about giving jobs to the average Joe/Jane, including Obama, is out of touch with the average person. The problem is not that there aren’t jobs out there. Despite the job losses, there are plenty of jobs. Employers are the problem, including chief executives and non-profits. Their standards are out of this world for candidates, and many of them only want to hire friends, friends of friends and relatives. None of them care about educational background (even entry level jobs require one or two years of work experience in the field that job is in), and they don’t want to pay what candidates are worth because they want to keep all the money. This is not a partisan thing, and this is not just about Obama. He can take the Republican’s suggestion and give money to small businesses to create jobs, but that’s not going to solve the problem–not if those businesses are going to ask for the sun and the moon from candidates, even to do simple jobs, and not pay them what they should for it.
Posted by: ren | November 12, 2009, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Unemployment has been at unacceptable levels since at least January when Obama was sworn in, but it is just now that he is calling a “summit” to discuss the problem.
First, Obama told us we had to have that earmark-laden “stimulus” legislation or — he told — unemployment would hit 8%.
Well, it long ago hit 8% and long ago passed that mark.
But ONLY now is Obama deciding to pay some attention to what is a tragedy for many families.
Furthermore, why does Obama have to call a “summit” to discuss this? He is the president, for gosh sakes, and has had the ability to ask for and get advice from any number of people.
But, no, it won’t even be until December that Obama will schedule this all-important “summit.”
Why a “summit” anyway?
I will tell you.
So, Obama can lay the blame on others for not solving the problem.
That’s why.
This man, Obama, is NOT presidential material and never will be.
Posted by: dream | November 12, 2009, 11:12 am 11:12 am
You want to create jobs? Give everyone a tax free year.
The economy would go nuts.
Of course they won’t because taxes are about control.
Posted by: taxpayer | November 12, 2009, 11:13 am 11:13 am
Will he have a “jobs Czar”
LOL.
Posted by: wiseone | November 12, 2009, 11:15 am 11:15 am
I have a few thoughts with what Obama can do with his job summit!!!!!
Posted by: Lisa | November 12, 2009, 11:18 am 11:18 am
Forty-five percent (45%) of U.S. voters now give President Obama poor marks for his handling of the economy, the highest level of disapproval this year.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 12, 2009, 11:22 am 11:22 am
The answer is simple bring our jobs back to this country, we don’t have to have wages that rival workers and CEO’s in the banking industry, but ours should be guide lined by the banking moguls, take home pay, We get the shaft on everything to the benefit wall sreet bottom line. Statement I PROMISE YOU MAKES A LIAR OUT OF EVERY MAN INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT, stimulus whom did it save, cash for clunkers, cash for banks
cash for other country’s nothing for us, these companies aren’t going to create jobs for we the sorry people.
Posted by: Joe Ryder Topeka In 46571 | November 12, 2009, 11:27 am 11:27 am
O’Babble has created lots of new jobs, not even sure how many Czars there are.
Posted by: Ron | November 12, 2009, 11:36 am 11:36 am
A Jobs Summit to come up with more fictional jobs “saved”.
Posted by: Kathy Corey | November 12, 2009, 11:49 am 11:49 am
Look intently at our president when making a speech, never does he look down we don’t exist in his eyes. the answer to our problem bring jobs back to America, I do not have to have some another country make something for me, we can make it ourselves. We could do tremendous damage if we would only buy MADE IN AMERICA. Like oil company survey’s, question would you drive across town to save 5 cents on gallon gas, if NO that’s exactly the answer they wanted to hear, tell them yes even if you lie, that they don’t want to hear don’t play there Game. Bring manufacturing home, we should demand IT. Make it easy for OBAMA to put citizens to work.
Posted by: THWTCO | November 12, 2009, 11:53 am 11:53 am
This is bad news for thems in the 53 million who voted for him thinking they were going to get more handouts.
CLOSED DUE TO JOB SUMMIT
COME BACK IN 2012 (PLEASE)
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 12, 2009, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
AF-PAK – REJECTED!
JOBS – REJECTED!
TRIP OVERSEAS – ACCEPTED!
Gonna be a good day to listen to Rush!
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 12, 2009, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
Meanwhile Larry King, who lets every liberal appearing on his show say whatever they want, suddenly turns into Edward R. Murrow when Carrie Prejean appears on his show.
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 12, 2009, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Do you notice that when Obama talks, he doesn’t seem to be talking TO us so much as he seems to be lecturing us on history or something?
His chin goes up and he appears to be so arrogant it’s as if he feels he is lowering himself to have to talk to us mere mortals.
Posted by: dream | November 12, 2009, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
I am confused: Obama and Biden make statements that if we do not pass the stimulus unemployment will go above 8%.. We pass it unemployment up to 10.2 and expected to rise! Biden and Obama said the Stimulus saved or created x amount of jobs! Reports said those numbers are not accurate and really cant be proven! Obama and Biden then say that was based on false data the new data is much more accurate and it says we have saved and or created 650,000+ jobs! reports come out and say sorry wrong again not even close to accurate people are overstating the Jobs on the reports! White House response there are probably just as many reports that are low and l they will balance out and we stand by our numbers ! Today Obama says that it did not create jobs as hoped but it has slowed unemployment claims. How long will Liberals stand buy this under qualified over hyped lying President!
Posted by: nobama12 | November 12, 2009, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
the only thing thats going to create real jobs are tax credits to businesses that hire. i mean significant credits because its awfully scary out there to go long and hire folks.throw on the wished for mandates form congress and jobs are going to be very hard to come by. those in power have to realize this and why they dont act is beyond me.
Posted by: catman | November 12, 2009, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
LoL! Another brilliant idea from this administration. Their collecting lack of experience running any kind of business is showing. This summit is another perfect pulpit for Obama to pontificate from. Too bad words don’t create jobs and neither does big Govt spending.
If you think unemployment is bad now wait until Cap and trade and healthcare taxes pass.
Posted by: RB | November 12, 2009, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Why does Obama need to hold a summit? That’s just grandstanding. The fact is that unemployment isn’t going anywhere for a long time. That’s how badly NYC Wall St crooks have wrecked the economy. And sadly, Obama doesn’t know how to fix it.
Posted by: Bubbles | November 12, 2009, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
The Republican businesspeople he invited ought to write Obama the following:
“Ear Leader: I am too busy to attend, and you well know that we TOLD YOU already that what we needed was for you to stop spending. You stupid dolt!”
Posted by: tanarg | November 12, 2009, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
It seems the “Job Creation” has become victim of political game. “Jobless America” will continue, partly by intention until the next presidential election! I would guess all parties want that.
Posted by: Cyrus | November 12, 2009, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
JOB SUMMIT – Another bright idea from our brilliant administration shines over the nation! He had about 10 summits already – did they work? How about a summit on Afghanistan? What he really needs is hiring a SUMMIT CZAR who will be in charge of all the forthcoming summits!
Posted by: H1N1hysteria | November 12, 2009, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
The new health care bill passed by the House just made it much more expensive for a business to hire since they are now REQUIRED to pay for health insurance.
hmmm, I wonder why they aren’t hiring?
Posted by: Joe White | November 12, 2009, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Amazing. He talks everything to death and does nothing useful. Not confidence inspiring, especially considering how they skew statistics to show they “saved or created” jobs. What a load of hooey! People are beginning to catch on to the fact that this president is a figurehead, surrounded by incompetents and sycophants hellbent on promoting a radical, jobs destroying agenda.
Posted by: Glennis | November 12, 2009, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
pelosi just confirmed it , you will go to jail if you don’t buy health insurance . It is on tape.
Posted by: JJJ | November 12, 2009, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Since President Obama decided to invoke cousin “pookie” on his stop to New Orleans a few weeks ago, I will tell you what cousin pookie needs he needs a job mr president where are those jobs in the private sector.
Posted by: rachel | November 12, 2009, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
I was going to leave a long message but why bother. Obama talks we all go without work or hope. Failed policies that only grows the government sector.
Pathetic.
Posted by: ChicagoBob | November 12, 2009, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Does anyone think he will put people in there that have contrasting views? NO he will get a room full of KISS UPS and LAP DOGS. If Obama wants me to believe he wants contrasting views he will invite Neil Cavuto everyone with an opposite view point because his lap dogs are FAILURES and the people of the country suffer while he makes speeches and scratches his head.
Posted by: ChicagoBob | November 12, 2009, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
The jobs conference will include chief executives from around the country, economists, non-profits and representatives from labor unions.
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Labor unions? Really? Since when do labor unions actually create jobs? I would hope that the US Chamber of Commerce is included in the conference along with small business owners and the groups that represent their interests.
It seems somewhat ironic that this announcement of a “Jobs Summit” comes the same day Al Gore announced he plans to cut 80 jobs from his network, Current TV.
Posted by: Really? | November 12, 2009, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
The President needs to go back to that community he ‘organized’ in Chicago and ‘save or create’ some jobs there first.
Don’t you love the way the media (incl Fox news) are repeating the admin’s mantra ‘save or create’, as if that is actually an economic metric? The ‘journalists’ are fools for using it.
It is a politically phoney aphorism, at best.
What matters is the unemployment rate…period.
Is it going up, or down?
Posted by: J House | November 12, 2009, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
He said that phoney ‘created or saved a million jobs’ line again…as if the scandal about that whole ‘created or saved jobs’ counting process that is now unfolding doesn’t exist (they can’t even get to 650,000, mush less a ‘million’).
The President said in his comments employers haven’t taken steps to hire workers because of uncertainty, yet he just bragged he got us back on the path to growth.
He doesn’t want to tell you the real reason- employer’s uncertainty over taxes to pay for the President’s great society dream of ‘healthcare reform’.
Posted by: J House | November 12, 2009, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
How many bogus jobs is this going to “create or save?”
Amateur hour at the White House continues.
BTW: Why is Obama going to Asia now? Can he not stop campaigning for himself and apologizing for America to get some ACTUAL work accomplished?
Then again he is a far left liberal trial lawyer, so it depends on what his definition of work is.
Posted by: enough already | November 12, 2009, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
I am confused:
Posted by: nobama12 | Nov 12, 2009 12:33:09 PM
Don’t be confused. Just listen to the economics experts who “took a class and read a lot.” They’ll get us through this. Their having a summit, you know.
Meanwhile, remember that you’re not a homeless person or a bum – you’re “economically and residentially challenged.”
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 12, 2009, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
He said that phoney ‘created or saved a million jobs’ line again…as if the scandal about that whole ‘created or saved jobs’ counting process that is now unfolding doesn’t exist
Posted by: J House | Nov 12, 2009 2:00:03 PM
America’s Bagdhad Bob (Missiles? What missiles?)
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The President needs to go back to that community he ‘organized’ in Chicago and ‘save or create’ some jobs there first.
Posted by: J House | Nov 12, 2009 1:47:40 PM
Been there, done that. With Tony Rezko. Buildings still empty. Money gone. It worked so well he’s trying it with the entire country.
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 12, 2009, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
“Al Gore announced he plans to cut 80 jobs from his network, Current TV”
Why aren’t the liberals demagoguing him? Fat Cat CEO with his private jets and mansions. Why can’t he give up some of his millions so the “little people” can keep their jobs?
Posted by: Huh? | November 12, 2009, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Go to jail for not buying health care.
I heard that Obama was going to be giving jobs to convicts.
Jobs for the government and convicts but not for Main Street.
Posted by: larry | November 12, 2009, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Is Obama going to have a Home Foreclosure Summit too.
The billions he spent there haven’t helped either.
Posted by: kyle | November 12, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
The Emperorer has no clothes.
Posted by: wis134 | November 12, 2009, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Non-profits and labor unions are invited to a summit on creating jobs? Is this a joke?
With input from participants such as these, it appears the best solution at the conference may be to simply give ACORN a bunch more money, and let them create the jobs.
Posted by: Val | November 12, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
If he wanted to learn about creating jobs, he would invite small, medium and large business owners ONLY. Tell unions and academics sit down, shut up and learn from real life business stories.
Hey! You could gGive a “shout out” to Badger Mining Company, named 2009 best small company to work for in America.
Please wise up, President Obama, and talk to the people who are actually responsible for creating jobs at your latest “summit”.
Posted by: WhereWasThePress? | November 12, 2009, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Speaking of jobs, another “Malkin minute” from the petite right winger herself:
“This is how they roll in Barack and Michelle Obama’s Chicago. The 26-year-old son of Nation of Islam chieftain Louis Farrakhan gets a $63,000 government job as a “business manager” in C(r)ook County after the Nation of Islam-endorsed C(r)ook County Board president, Todd Stroger, wins his seat.
“The local Fox affiliate pressed Stroger on the patronage job, to which Stroger responded: “If you’re asking me if I’m crooked? No.” A C(r)ook County spokesman defended the hire by citing Leonard Muhammad’s 10-year experience in property management. Which would mean he started managing properties at … 16 years old.”
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 12, 2009, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
obama will do the opposite of what needs to be done. He will not work across the aisle with conservative Republicans to help stimulate economy and small businesses. That’s okay, we’re going to fire the people in Congress who aren’t fiscally conservative anyway. If we can only hold out for one more year….
Posted by: Jenny | November 12, 2009, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Which would mean he started managing properties at … 16 years old.”
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas
Sen. Ensign signed an 18 year old to be a
‘political consultant’.. wonder why? hmmmm
Posted by: YO | November 12, 2009, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
conservative Republicans to help stimulate economy and small businesses.
Posted by: Jenny
yes, they did such a good job for 8 years ..
stimulating the country into economic collapse..
Posted by: YO | November 12, 2009, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Jobs summit???? this guy just wake up from a sound sleep??? We had stimulus to create jobs beginning of year. Waiting for answer if to sent troops since summer…All this man does is have meetings and campaign speeches….maybe for new jobs, he can give small business a tax break so they can hire.
Posted by: betty11 | November 12, 2009, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Speaking of jobs, another “Malkin minute” from the petite right winger herself:”
“”The local Fox affiliate pressed Stroger on the patronage job, to which Stroger responded: “If you’re asking me if I’m crooked? No.” A C(r)ook County spokesman defended the hire by citing Leonard Muhammad’s 10-year experience in property management. Which would mean he started managing properties at … 16 years old.”
Leonard Muhammad is apparently Farrakan’s grandson not son.
And there is no mention in any of the source articles of 10 years experience, the reference is to several years.
“A Cook County spokesperson told Fox Chicago News Muhammad first interviewed for the county job in September. Chris Geovanis said Muhammad had worked in the property management business for several years and was well qualified for the Facilities Management post, which oversees maintenance and repairs at the county’s criminal courts and jail complex. The county would not provide Muhammad’s resume to Fox Chicago News
The lesson as always? Bigoted right wingers like Malkin lie.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 12, 2009, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Its about time the Obama Administation woke up and smelled the coffee. Millions of people have been laid off in the last 12 months, with most losing their retirement investments (spent to stay afloat economically) and the vast majority losing their homes to foreclosure. I will never understand why economic stimulus money did not include the stipulation that the companies receiving these funds needed to KEEP PEOPLE EMPLOYED versus taking the handouts and laying off thousands. I would like to see both parties come together on providing any and all ideas on how to stimulate employment for the working and middle classes; we do not need to provide stimulus funds so executives can pay out $10 million bonuses to themselves while patting themselves on the back for cost saving measures that center on mass layoffs.
Posted by: RohnertPark1 | November 12, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
“yes, they did such a good job for 8 years ..
stimulating the country into economic collapse..”
Yeah it was small businesses that caused the economy to collapse.
Atleast no Republican ever tried to throw you in prison because you wouldn’t buy a state mandated product.
Posted by: Huh? | November 12, 2009, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
It’s ironic that Obama is bragging about creating/saving jobs in America & they turn out to be lies based on today Boston newspaper. Just more lies from Obama. Does he ever tell the truth?
Posted by: SilverFoxOK | November 12, 2009, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
The U.S. budget deficit for October surged to $176 billion, a record for the month, the Treasury Department announced today. During the month, the government racked up $311 billion in outlays compared with $135 billion in receipts.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 12, 2009, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
I wonder how much that deficit is going to increase imprisoning healthcare felons?
Posted by: Huh? | November 12, 2009, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
The U.S. budget deficit for October surged to $176 billion, a record for the month, the Treasury Department announced today. During the month, the government racked up $311 billion in outlays compared with $135 billion in receipts.
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There was already a $1.2 TRILLION dollar deficit on the books when Obama took over from Bush. The fiscal year runs October to October.
You might also recall the economy was in a virtual free-fall collapse, hemorrhaging 700,000 a month, stock market collapsed, housing foreclosure and bankrupcies through the roof – and the world economy in very real peril.
Little facts the right wing ignore – over and over again.
Posted by: tierra | November 12, 2009, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
ere was already a $1.2 TRILLION dollar deficit on the books when Obama took over from Bush. The fiscal year runs October to October.
Posted by: tierra | Nov 12, 2009 3:47:48 PM
Soooooo… next month it will be Obama’s budget? Month after? Next year? Ever? Let us know so we can start posting our nasty right wing hater comments. K?
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 12, 2009, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
The lesson as always? Bigoted right wingers like Malkin lie.
Posted by: Ryan C | Nov 12, 2009 3:15:28 PM
“Muhammad is the grandson of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, and the son of Leonard Muhammad, Farrakhan’s son-in-law and longtime chief of staff.”
He is the son of Farrakhan’s son-in-law and longtime CHIEF of STAFF or CHIEFTAIN if you will. The statement Malkin wrote is not a lie but correct as written. You lose on that one Spanky.
“A C(r)ook County spokesman defended the hire by citing Leonard Muhammad’s 10-year experience in property management.”
Nothing wrong here as she does not quote Geovanis who says ‘several years’ (the last I knew 10 is several). Sorry Spanky, unless you can prove it is NOT 10 years, you lose on this one too.
The lesson? Liberal ankle-biter loses all perspective and reason in his/her undiminished hatred for one particular Asian American Christian Woman. Wow. Prejudice against 1) Asian 2) Christian 3) Woman. You hit the trifecta Spanky!
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 12, 2009, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
“There was already a $1.2 TRILLION dollar deficit on the books when Obama took over from Bush. ”
Another provably false statement. That was the projected deficit for 2009. Not the already booked deficit from October to Jan.
“Today the Congressional Budget Office announced that the deficit we are inheriting for this budget year will be $1.2 trillion,” President-elect Obama said today, noting that the stimulus package “will necessarily add more.”
From this very blog.
Posted by: Huh? | November 12, 2009, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
“I wonder how much that deficit is going to increase imprisoning healthcare felons?”
The brilliance in imprisoning health care felons is that they will receive free health care behind bars. LOL
Posted by: WhereWasThePress? | November 12, 2009, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
yes, they did such a good job for 8 years ..
stimulating the country into economic collapse..
Posted by: YO | Nov 12, 2009 2:53:23 PM
********
Yes those Democrats who took over Congress are doing one helluva job! I give them an F.
Posted by: Jenny | November 12, 2009, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
“The brilliance in imprisoning health care felons is that they will receive free health care behind bars. LOL”
They’re going to free all those drug “non-criminals” (remember that’s out of liberal compassion) and replace them with normal Americans who don’t get the government-approved acceptable level of health care coverage.
Posted by: Huh? | November 12, 2009, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Yes those Democrats who took over Congress are doing one helluva job! I give them an F.
Posted by: Jenny | Nov 12, 2009 4:48:17 PM
“Heckuva job, Brownie, uh, I mean Nancy!”
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 12, 2009, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Visualize Whirled Peas | Nov 12, 2009 2:01:15 PM posted “Don’t be confused. Just listen to the economics experts who “took a class and read a lot.” They’ll get us through this. Their having a summit, you know.”
First, what do you recommend ? Continuing the Supply Side Economic policies that produced a pathetic 5 Million new jobs over 8 years?
Second, I believe the word you meant to use in your last sentence is the contraction of they + are: “they’re” not “their”. Most Americans actually LIKE the idea that those who are weighing policy actually “took a class and read a lot”.
Posted by: CenterOne | November 12, 2009, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
But Tim Geithner was the smartest man the only man that could save the economy.
Why hasn’t Tim and our brilliant president helped Main Street the way they have helped Wall Street?
Posted by: cal | November 12, 2009, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
What do those snobby millionaire elites in the White House/Congress know about
the everyday man on the street?
They are so far removed from regular people and from real life–they do not get it.
They do not get us.
Posted by: ollie | November 12, 2009, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
This idiot white house is inviting non profits, community activist to the meeting???
What the heck do they jknow about getting jobs back to the USA. Well apparaently Obama is more of an idiot then I thought.
Posted by: jonny | November 12, 2009, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
A jobs summit??? President Obama – University President of the USA. What a loser? The President proves more and more every day how unqualified and over his head he is in an executive position.
Posted by: Aaron | November 12, 2009, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Aaron | Nov 12, 2009 5:30:30 PM posted – “The President proves more and more every day how unqualified and over his head he is in an executive position.”
I’m curious Aaron – what would you recommend since we got this recession goin’ on and all. Stay the course from the past 8 years when policies created a measly 5 Million new jobs?
Posted by: CenterOne | November 12, 2009, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
I’m curious Aaron – what would you recommend since we got this recession goin’ on and all. Stay the course from the past 8 years when policies created a measly 5 Million new jobs?
Posted by: CenterOne | Nov 12, 2009 5:46:29 PM
If he is as serious about job creation as he was health care and the stimulis why would he wait until December? Last I checked today is the 12th. Sounds like more “dithering”.
Posted by: King Julien | November 12, 2009, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
“First, what do you recommend ? Continuing the Supply Side Economic policies that produced a pathetic 5 Million new jobs over 8 years?”
You obviously don’t understand the principles of fiscal conservatism. Those policies were nowhere to be found during the last 8 years. Bush was a fiscal liberal and Pelosi and Reid were more than happy to accelerate deficit spending when they took control of Congress in 2008. The results speak for themselves.
Posted by: Stacey | November 12, 2009, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Stone: Do you think it’s fair to send people to jail who don’t buy health insurance?
Pelosi: … The legislation is very fair in this respect.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 12, 2009, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
The dopes really do still belive that government spending “creates jobs.” Yokels never inquire where the money comes from (hint: every last penny comes from borrowing, taxation or inflating the currency), nor to what use that money would otherwise be put.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 12, 2009, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
I have terrific idea for the administration: let’s spend half a trillion dollars to begin converting to the ricksha for our basic transportation.
Ricksha factories would spring up throughout the land, employing millions of laid-off workers, and millions more would find work as ricksha drivers.
It’s the ultimate green jobs program–and think what it would do for the drivers’ cardiovascular fitness. (Of course, we will need a ricksha czar.)
I call it the Hyena Plan.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 12, 2009, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Obama is absolutely clueless about what to do. What a mess we have gotten ourselves into.
Posted by: Willie12345 | November 12, 2009, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Stone: Do you think it’s fair to send people to jail who don’t buy health insurance?
Pelosi: … The legislation is very fair in this respect.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | Nov 12, 2009 6:18:25 PM
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Right-wing blogs run with reporter’s false question on jail time under health bill:
Right-wing websites including the Fox Nation have highlighted a question asked of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi at a November 9 press conference in Seattle by a local reporter who said, “Do you think it’s fair to send people to jail for not buying health insurance?”
In fact, the penalty under the House health care reform bill for failure to purchase insurance is a tax, not jail time.
Willful failure to pay federal income taxes can result in civil or criminal penalties.
Posted by: tierra | November 12, 2009, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Obama is absolutely clueless about what to do. What a mess we have gotten ourselves into.
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Willie, this is a world-wide economic crisis we’re in and NOT out of yet. Every western industrialized nation (China too) has experienced massive unemployment, bankruptcies, and business failures AND every one has instituted stimulus programs, tax relief and deficit funding.
There was just a major meeting of the G20 countries to discuss how to continue to address the crisis, avoid collapse and continue recovery.
That you think “Obama doesn’t have a clue” really only shows your ignorance of the problems being faced.
Each country has seen some signs of recovery – but nobody has a guaranteed recover underway – nobody.
Posted by: tierra | November 12, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Well King, he has a Council of Economic Advisors, and quite a few other people working for him, why doesn’t he come up with a proposal on jobs instead of these stupid “summits” that don’t produce anything. And what do you imagine this summit will produce. I see Andy Stern is of course invited. Geez, let’s pass Card Check and Obamacare. That will solve everything. He’s an academic, not an executive. Summits and conferences are for people that don’t like taking action. I think he’s afraid his solution, if he has one is politically awful and would cost him popularity, this thing he holds most dear to his heart.
Posted by: Aaron | November 12, 2009, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
“Willful failure to pay federal income taxes can result in civil or criminal penalties.”
So–are we now all agreed that this is in fact a tax, and that it is to be levied on people making far, far less than $250,00 a year?
One of the penalties for failure to pay federal tax is federal prison time (ask Wesley Snipes or Pete Rose).
Democrat congressional staffers have confirmed that jail is provided for as a remedy for non-compliance.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 12, 2009, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
“First, what do you recommend ? Continuing the Supply Side Economic policies that produced a pathetic 5 Million new jobs over 8 years?”
You mean JFK’s policies? Yes, absolutely. Supply-side policies have greated wealth every time they’ve been employed.
Posted by: Woody | November 12, 2009, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
“this is a world-wide economic crisis we’re in and NOT out of yet. Every western industrialized nation (China too) has experienced massive unemployment, bankruptcies, and business failures AND every one has instituted stimulus programs, tax relief and deficit funding.”
Odd that the people who created the circumstances for this worldwide collapse and human misery (which originated in the good ‘ole USA) haven’t been brought to justice yet.
Pelosi promised and then initiated an investigation to determine the root causes of the economic meltdown and then abruptly shut it down without comment. Gee, I wonder why that is.
Meanwhile, 23 of 29 current ethics investigations by the House Ethics Committee involve Democrats, some of them prominent like tax-dodging Charlie Rangel. Yet the mainstream media doesn’t seem to be interested in that story at all. Again, very odd in Obama’s “Era of Responsibility.”
Posted by: Jenn | November 12, 2009, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Will Obama report on how much stimulus money it took to create each of those temporary jobs that he thinks saved the economy?
Posted by: Ed Taylor | November 12, 2009, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Democrat congressional staffers have confirmed that jail is provided for as a remedy for non-compliance.
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Jail has always been an option for people who don’t pay their taxes. That’s the law of the land.
Posted by: tierra | November 12, 2009, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Odd that the people who created the circumstances for this worldwide collapse and human misery (which originated in the good ‘ole USA) haven’t been brought to justice yet.
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Have you done any serious study of this issue? Let me tell you – nobody comes out clean on this one, particularly the Bush administration. Whether there are criminal charges is another question.
Posted by: tierra | November 12, 2009, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
I guess we know what Obama is going to write on the Christmas cards he sends out from the White house this year-”HAPPY UNEMPLOMENT EVERY BODY”
Posted by: John Demeter | November 12, 2009, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
When he was running for President, he didn’t mention needing a jobs forum. He said something more like he was going to have shovel ready and green jobs, practically as soon as he hit office. Gee, what happened? Oh yeah, that stimulas money went to Banks, CEO’s and Corporations, and WallStreet.
Posted by: AmericansLetsRoll | November 12, 2009, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
The Hyena Plan : I Love It! Certainly More than Obama has Given Us!!!!
Posted by: Moderate | November 12, 2009, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
“Jail has always been an option for people who don’t pay their taxes. That’s the law of the land.”
Cool! It would be great to see Obamabots, especially the younger ones, thrown in jail for being unable or unwilling to pay their “healthcare tax.”
So how’s that Hope and Change working for you?
Posted by: Jenn | November 12, 2009, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
The Pres. and the Democratic congress has helped us tremendously thus far..there was the GMC and Chrysler bailout and everyone received a free auto as we are part owners..oh no wrong. Okay there was the bank bailout where we all received billions in bonuses..oh wrong again. Okay there was the stimulus that helped us all..oh wrong again. $30 million for a spring training baseball complex for the Arizona Diamondbacks and Colorada Rockies. Surely the health care bill will help us all..we will just be heavily taxed for that one or go to jail…Well he helped with the unemployment rate not going over 8%…wrong again it’s at 10.2% and rising..Maybe the cap and tax…I just saw Gore as he boarded his jet heading to the bank and he said it will definately help us but he was laughing so hard I didn’t quite get how much he said it would cost us. Somebody let the President and Congress know they have helped us enough and we can take it from here.
Posted by: bailedout | November 12, 2009, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
“Have you done any serious study of this issue? Let me tell you – nobody comes out clean on this one, particularly the Bush administration. Whether there are criminal charges is another question.”
But why is that? Democrats run the Executive and Legislative branches, not to mention the Department of Justice. They promised a thorough investigation and swift justice for wrongdoing that led to the economic crisis. What could possibly be stopping them from pursuing charges against those responsible for the near collapse of our economy and several others around the globe? Hmmmm?
Posted by: Jenn | November 12, 2009, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Still waiting on one of those promised 3.5 million green jobs.
Posted by: Chuck | November 12, 2009, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
“Jail has always been an option for people who don’t pay their taxes. That’s the law of the land.”
Really? Could you pass that message on to Tim Geithner? And Larry Summers. And Kathy Sebelius. And Charlie Rangel. And Daschle. And Solis. And on and on.
In the words of J.D. Salinger, “Some of us are more equal than others.”
Posted by: Woody | November 12, 2009, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
But why is that? Democrats run the Executive and Legislative branches, not to mention the Department of Justice. They promised a thorough investigation and swift justice for wrongdoing that led to the economic crisis. What could possibly be stopping them from pursuing charges against those responsible for the near collapse of our economy and several others around the globe? Hmmmm?
Posted by: Jenn | Nov 12, 2009 9:45:56 PM
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Ooh! Pick me! Is it the same reason why Fannie and Freddie still remain unregulated?
Posted by: Woody | November 12, 2009, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Gallup: “U.S. job-market optimism has reached a new low, with only 8% of Americans saying now is a good time to find a quality job — the lowest level since Gallup began tracking this measure in August 2001. Americans’ optimism about this had begun to diminish even before the recession began to unfold two years ago, when 38% in November 2007 were optimistic, and there has been essentially no improvement since February of this year, when 9% held this view.”
In other words, YES WE CAN’T!
Posted by: Mary | November 12, 2009, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
The healthcare battle appears to be helping Republicans running for the Senate.
Two Quinnipiac polls released Thursday show the leading GOP candidates in Connecticut and Ohio growing their leads.
Former Rep. Rob Simmons (R-Conn.) leads Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), 49-38, and former Rep. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) has opened his first leads over two potential Democratic opponents.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 12, 2009, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
“Jail has always been an option for people who don’t pay their taxes. That’s the law of the land.”
Then why do you resist the notion that those who do not purchase the mandated health insurance face jail time for failure to do so?
Why not simply admit it, and move on? it is clearly an idea that does not offend you at all. But we always knew that.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 12, 2009, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | Nov 12, 2009 10:09:07 PM
Try reading it slowly Fascist. I know it’ll make your lips move . .. but try it. Perhaps read it out loud.
The penalty under the House health care reform bill for failure to purchase insurance is a tax, not jail time.
Willful failure to pay federal income taxes can result in civil or criminal penalties.
Posted by: Billy Davenport | November 12, 2009, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
VP Biden said the Recovery Act was supposed to be about one three letter word J-O-B-S.
Joe wilson was right.
Posted by: rednorth | November 12, 2009, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
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For starters…
first, you have to admit that government does not create jobs.
Second, admit that the so-called “stimulus” was a bust and hundres of billions of wasted taxpayer money.
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Posted by: N Waff | November 12, 2009, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
“Posted by: Fascist Hyena | Nov 12, 2009 10:09:07 PM
Try reading it slowly Fascist. I know it’ll make your lips move . .. but try it. Perhaps read it out loud.
“The penalty under the House health care reform bill for failure to purchase insurance is a tax, not jail time.
“Willful failure to pay federal income taxes can result in civil or criminal penalties.”
I’ll try to make this as painless as I can for the slow reading group: if you fail to comply with a civil penalty, you go to jail. If you receive a criminal penalty other than jail and you fail to comply, you go to jail.
It is a very good thing to come to grips with this absolute truth: if you do not pay the taxes (or fines, whether civil or criminal) required of you by the federal government, you are placed in jail.
Is there something about all of this that you do not understand?
Try a little thought experiment, painful as that may be. Imagine that you are “taxed” for failure to purchase insurance. Suppose you do not pay that tax. Suppose that for that failure to pay you are asessed a civil penalty. Suppose that you cannot or will not comply.
What happens next?
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 12, 2009, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
“Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) received a handwritten note Thursday from Joint Committee on Taxation Chief of Staff Tom Barthold confirming the penalty for failing to pay the up to $1,900 fee for not buying health insurance.
“Violators could be charged with a misdemeanor and could face up to a year in jail or a $25,000 penalty, Barthold wrote on JCT letterhead. He signed it ‘Sincerely, Thomas A. Barthold.’”
Try refusing to pay the penalty. Be sure to bring your toothbrush to court.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 12, 2009, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
“The House of Representatives passed their Obama Health Care bill H.R. 3962 saturday night on November 7th, 2009. In it is a provision to jail anyone who does not get ‘acceptable health insurance coverage’. The penalty is that you are ‘subject to numerous civil and criminal penalties, including criminal fines of up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to five years.’
“Prosecution is authorized under the Code for a variety of offenses. Depending on the level of the noncompliance, the following penalties could apply to an individual:
• Section 7203 – misdemeanor willful failure to pay is punishable by a fine of up to $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year.
• Section 7201 – felony willful evasion is punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years.”
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 12, 2009, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
Create jobs by:
1. Offering tax incentives for small business growth and R
2. Lowering the Minimum Wage;
3. Offering credit to businesses
4. Get off business’ collective backs by getting rid of needless regulations
Posted by: Bill | November 13, 2009, 1:25 am 1:25 am
Obama loves to creat an image, illusion that he cares … He loves to be the center of the media.
He is merely a propaganda-in-chief.
He is a fundraiser in chief.
Posted by: talk from sf | November 13, 2009, 1:43 am 1:43 am
“If we pass the SB, the unemployment rate will be kept under 8.5% …”
“We must pass quickly … ”
He rushes on everything including HC except this tricky one: sending troops to AFGHANISTAAAAAAAN!!!!!!
Posted by: talk from sf | November 13, 2009, 1:53 am 1:53 am
Looks like our President Clueless
WILL keep on discussion, meeting, meeting, discussion … on and on and on.
(YES, HE CAN!)
Posted by: talk from sf | November 13, 2009, 2:00 am 2:00 am
I remember George Bush, Sr saying “It’s the economy, Stupid!” Well, the main part – at least the most important part to most Americans – is JOBS! Those of us who are fortunate to have one are on edge because we don’t really know how long our job will last. All I know is that the congress and the president better do something very quickly to start putting Americans back to work – and not focus so much on health care. After all, those that can’t afford health insurance should be able to qualify for Medicaid – or, if they reside in NJ, qualify for a great low or no cost health insurance, called “NJ Family Care.”
Hey, I want to pass on a good, money-saving tip: http://www.compunets.com is PAYING $600 just for being one of their 6,000 Zurtel customers in NOV – but I think it will end by Nov. 15, 2009. Not sure, but I definitely took advantage of it – and I just can’t believe they are doing that!
If anyone else has a good tip to help me save money (and make some, too!), please post it!
Posted by: Cindy Slope | November 13, 2009, 2:12 am 2:12 am
Some of you posting on here seem unaware there is a world-wide economic crisis that has taken place.
Every western industrialized country has experienced huge job losses, bankruptcies, foreclosures – almost UNPRECEDENTED.
Every country has put in place stimulus plans, tax cuts and deficit funding to try to simply shore up their economies against collapse.
Each country has seen some positive signs for their economies, but NOBODY is anywhere near out the woods yet – NOBODY.
Those of you who think there is some kind of magic wand anybody could wave to fix this are really deluding themselves.
Posted by: tierra | November 13, 2009, 2:22 am 2:22 am
Jenn,
Obama and Pelosi promised “transparency as well, and that gave us a Hate Crimes law that was secreted through under cover of a Defense spending bill and a Health Care Bill out of Pelosis HOR in the middle of the night on a weekend. If that is their idea of transparency, we will never even hear about laws they pass “in secret”, until they come arrest us for violating them.
Posted by: Jon W | November 13, 2009, 3:28 am 3:28 am
we will never even hear about laws they pass “in secret”, until they come arrest us for violating them.
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Paranoid much Jon? Sounds a little melodramatic.
Posted by: tierra | November 13, 2009, 3:51 am 3:51 am
WELL, SCOLLY WOLLY!!
Guess this summit will fix the ‘jobs problem’!! Will he bring the beer to this summit??
Is Team Obama so dense and or arrogant they cannot understand the discussions of some of their agenda has businesses at the point they FEAR expanding — even if they could?
Look at Obama’s track record so far!! WHAT HAS WORKED — that can be proven??
As each day goes by, the credibility of this administration’s policies come into greater question!!
If he must have a summit, hope he brings a HAPPY TELEPROMPTER!!
Posted by: PappyHappy | November 13, 2009, 5:14 am 5:14 am
tierra
The magic wand is to get this country producing again.
The thing restraining our country’s ability to produce is overregulation and strict bureaucratic roadblocks.
Posted by: Tom | November 13, 2009, 5:28 am 5:28 am
Pope John Paul II saw in Poland firsthand what a government controlled economy can do. In his encyclical Centesimus annus (1991) he wrote:
“Economic activity, especially the activity of a market economy, cannot be conducted in an institutional, juridical or political vacuum. On the contrary, it presupposes sure guarantees of individual freedom and private property, as well as a stable currency and efficient public services. Hence the principle task of the State is to guarantee this security, so that those who work and produce can enjoy the fruits of their labours and thus feel encouraged to work efficiently and honestly.”
Posted by: Tom | November 13, 2009, 5:36 am 5:36 am
“By intervening directly and depriving society of its responsibility, the Social Assistance State leads to a loss of human energies and an inordinate increase of public agencies, which are dominated more by bureaucratic ways of thinking than by concern for serving their clients, and which are accompanied by an enormous increase in spending.”
- Pope John Paul II (1991) Centesimus annus
Posted by: Tom | November 13, 2009, 5:42 am 5:42 am
i’d be willing to be that he’ll be told by more than one member at the meeting that more government jobs will not grow the economy.
Posted by: davidfrat21 | November 13, 2009, 7:23 am 7:23 am
obama administration = analysis paralysis
Posted by: davidfrat21 | November 13, 2009, 7:56 am 7:56 am
Odumbo and Pelousy AKA Tweedledum and Tweedledummer:
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More juvenile name calling from the right wing as intelligent political discussion . . .
Posted by: tierra | November 13, 2009, 10:31 am 10:31 am
Posted by: Woody | Nov 12, 2009 7:33:46 PM: “Supply-side policies have greated wealth every time they’ve been employed.”
But Woody, here’s the problem: all that generated wealth has tipped into the hands of the wealthiest. Back in 2005 after just 4 years of Supply Side economics, the wealthiest 1% of all Americans earned 21.2% of the nation’s income. And the gap between rich and poor grew even larger by the time President Bush left office.
Meanwhile, the wealth generated by Supply Side voodoo policy did not “trickle down” into new jobs – well at least here in the United States.
The pathetic 5 Million jobs created during the two Bush terms will NOT reemploy the 15.7 million people out of work today. And the manufacturing jobs that bled overseas, encouraged by Supply Side policies, will NOT be returning anytime soon.
Posted by: CenterOne | November 13, 2009, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Since Obama is just printing money right now, why not suspend all income tax for 1 year? After all, it was initially considered to be voluntary, when first enacted. Now, you go to jail, if you do not pay. Slipped that one right by everyone, eh? Just be ready for very dark times ahead. You think today is bad – just wait until after Christmas. Many more companies will be going into the tank. Unemployment will continue to rise and inflation is coming.
Posted by: John A | November 13, 2009, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
ConScripted | Nov 13, 2009 5:35:40 AM posted: “It’s a good thing Fox News told us here on Main Street about how those arrogant, narcissistic, elite leftist socialist communist thugs in Washington secretly rammed through that Hate Crimes rider. No more burning lumber on lawns or roughing up a few Nancy boys all in good fun. One by one, freedoms are being taken away from good, clean, God-fearing, flag-loving Americans by a power-hungry Big Government that wants to throw us under the bus. Palin 2012!”
Hey ConScripted, “roughing up a few Nancy boys” has NEVER been “all in good fun” or a “freedom” for “God-fearing Americans”. Thanks for exposing the inner workings of the mind of a Palin supporter.
Posted by: CenterOne | November 13, 2009, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
John A | Nov 13, 2009 1:16:00 PM posted – “Just be ready for very dark times ahead. You think today is bad – just wait until after Christmas. Many more companies will be going into the tank. Unemployment will continue to rise and inflation is coming.”
Actually John, things are not all that bleak. Granted, our economy won’t return to the previous bubble of easy credit. But, activity at my small business is picking up, even though we service a declining sector.
I agree about unemployment needing to be our government’s next MAJOR focus. Small businesses are still not seeing credit flowing and we are the power house of the nation’s jobs.
Posted by: CenterOne | November 13, 2009, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
More Proof that the “Stimulus” is
Working. Not!
Jobs Summit= “We Don’t Have A Clue”!
When your economic policy consists of
demonizing businesses and banks and
promoting labor unions what do you
expect? Labor unions do not create jobs,
small businesses do.
Increasing taxes on small business
will make the unemployment situation
much worse.
Save time and money Mr President and
cancel the “photo op” summit.
Just cut taxes for small business and
make it possible for them to hire
people and maybe provide them with
health insurance!
Posted by: reaganfan | November 13, 2009, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
actually center one things are that bleak. ask a commissioned sales person how the economy is going. they can’t rely on a salary to buffer them when things are rough. it has actually been 3 years of bad…isn’t that about when democrats took over Congress? uncertainty in all of the administrations tax an spend plans are going to continue the bleak outlook.
the exception of course is if you work for the government or one of the union jobs they’re propping up with tax payer money.
the disillusionment and dismay is mounting.
Posted by: wow | November 13, 2009, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
wow | Nov 13, 2009 3:53:03 PM posted: “uncertainty in all of the administrations tax an spend plans are going to continue the bleak outlook.”
I live in a state, Oregon, with one of the nation’s top unemployment rates, mostly because of our economy’s dependence on timber. Over the past decades during housing declines, we’ve seen similar unemployment numbers, so we knew what to do.
During the last economic downturn, Oregon issued bonds to create jobs and also opened wider eligibility for federal food stamps. The money circulated throughout the state, helping build jobs. We rebounded, and attracted new high tech employers like INTEL. Even built a rainy day fund.
This recession, the housing bust hit us hard. But in April we started spending on infrastructure projects to get people working and off unemployment.
The key focus has been building family wage jobs, so we have used federal money to build healthy new tax payers by investing in school districts, training and community college scholarships. A well trained workforce has already attracted new employers like the country’s largest Solar Panel plant, Bio Sciences, Health Care, High Tech, and Renewable energy. Moody’s has predicted Oregon be one of the leading states out the recession.
I know exactly what you are talking about when it comes to commissioned sales. That’s how we make a living here at my small business. But Americans need to realize the future won’t look like the past bubble. We’re moving into a different market with new products – counter “bleak” with nimble.
Posted by: CenterOne | November 13, 2009, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
CenterOne-I live in California where it is beyond bleak. Businesses and those who can get out, are. High taxes cause an extremely unfriendly business environment.
I am afraid it’s a look into the future for the rest of the country.
Posted by: wow | November 13, 2009, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
@ wow – yep, we moved our business out of California at the end of 2007 for exactly those reasons you mentioned. However, I also know CA has a unique history that’s caused some of its budget problems. We were there during the dot-com boom when the state was rolling in tax money and anyone who fogged a mirror could get a mortgage no questions asked.
If you are one of those who can’t get out, find a copy of the book “California” by state historian Kevin Starr. It’ll help put things in perspective. I do miss the sunshine.
Posted by: CenterOne | November 13, 2009, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
This should be fun. We’ll have Joe Biden there wagging his finger that employers need to “do their patriotic duty and add a few jobs to the role.” The President will walk around talking to the Labor Unions and a couple of the Bank Lobbyists. Pelosi will come streaming in chanting “a million jobs a month as soon as we get whatever bill passed she thinks will save us all from the edge (a las the Stimulus).
What a circus. its not a bad idea all in all but when you measure what this administration has done so far in the jobs creation arena (namely squat) and their propensity to stroke from the pulpit it is hard to imagine that this is nothing more than some vain effort to defend the records with “well, we had a jobs summit…and we had a lot of good ideas.”
The bottom line: businesses create jobs, not government. As long as businesses are penalized with heavy tax burdens they are simply not going to create jobs. You can scream “patriotism” all day long but if there is no money to be made it is simply not going to happen – not now, not ever.
Posted by: Lone Star Rules | November 14, 2009, 8:32 am 8:32 am
The banner that needs to be hung from the RNC:
“Its the jobs, stupid.”
Posted by: Lone Star Rules | November 14, 2009, 8:34 am 8:34 am
Posted by: Lone Star Rules | Nov 14, 2009 8:32:41 AM posted: “….businesses create jobs, not government. As long as businesses are penalized with heavy tax burdens they are simply not going to create jobs.”
This always sounds like great policy – everyone hates taxes. But the past two terms of major tax cuts created only a measly 5 Million new jobs (at least here in the US).
IMO, tax cuts alone do not create jobs, small businesses do. That’s where help from the Federal government can make a difference.
Posted by: CenterOne | November 14, 2009, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
CenterOne writes:
“IMO, tax cuts alone do not create jobs, small businesses do. That’s where help from the Federal government can make a difference.”
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So when is this part going to start? From what I see there has been a lot of talk about jobs being created or “saved” but the results are pretty dismal. The WH numbers for jobs being created as the direct result of the Stimulus Plan were so bad the spinmeisters were brought in to reach into the netherland to make them sound good. They got busted on that.
And how exactly can you measure a “saved” job in the private sector?
Best case, good day with the planets lining up there has been a decrease in the weekly unemployment numbers for the past 2 weeks. This could be the direct result of seasonal hirings.
The fact is this administration told us in clear terms: if Congress passed the Stimulus Bill unemployment would never get past 8%. We just hit 10.2% and we are still rising. Given the methods by which this Administration gets their Bills passed and, quite frankly, the wholescale breech in transparency and bi partisanship that this President promised not to mention the dismal results of their big save (from the brink) it is tough to believe that these guys have a clue much less are going to find genuine solutions.
Posted by: Lone Star Rules | November 15, 2009, 7:52 am 7:52 am
As a career counselor, I see things quite differently. 1st – blame doesn’t fix the problem or lead to solution. 2nd – the world is losing jobs and will keep losing jobs because technology will get better and will need less people to do the same job – we ahve seen this in all types of business world wide. 3rd until we create new industries – no new jobs will be created, especially because the people who have money want to ensure their profits keep raising which means the poor will just get more poor. We need to include the entire world in our build up of jobs. Remember every graduate of college in India speaks another language, and it’s usually English. How are we going to compete against that?
Posted by: Don Mineo | November 25, 2009, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
If President Obama wants to solve the jobless problem, he and our Congress need to wake up and mistrust the globalists and drastically change the trade laws. The economic recovery will not create good jobs. Why, because the huge global companies have outsourced the manufacturing to other countries (including a communist country called China). The Fed and the administration don’t have much ammo left to fight the coming double and deeper dip — courtesy of their failure to understand the prime cause of the Great Recession: global trade imbalances and their impact on the US industrial base. They have squandered the “Hope and Change” platform on which President Obama ran, as well as much of his personal popularity. Why is a “jobs summit” necessary at all this week? The answer is that they blew it — and they still don’t understand wealth and job creation. Wall Street and multinationals still control the nation’s economic agenda, and spend-and-tax liberals the political agenda. The huge trade deficit and reckless banking practices have caused this Great Recession and still weight down the economy. Our manufacturing towns are ghost towns and the stores are filled with cheap slave labor produced junk from China. They send us contaminated toys, baby food, sheet rock, tires, steel (the list is in the thousands) etc. They are bought and sold by the lobbyists of the big international corporations who continue to sell foreign made junk to middle class Americans while ripping their livelihoods out from under them. These global companies have lied to us for two decades that strong countries don’t have strong manufacturing bases. Listen closely! Every other country (except America) does not ship their jobs overseas. The globalists then tell our media and politicians that our country needs to be combined with (trade laws) every other country to become a global entity. Our leaders and media have been indoctrinated to believe this lie for so long, how many soup lines does there have be, before a little common sense seeps into our brainwashed leaders? Our free trade laws are not, I repeat not free trade. Oil imports and cheap consumer goods from China account for nearly the entire trade gap. Presidents Bush and Obama have ignored the fundamental causes of a rising trade deficit-China’s subsidies for domestic oil consumption, which drive up global prices and the cost of U.S. oil imports, and China’s purposeful manipulation of currency markets, which keeps the yuan undervalued against the dollar and subsidizes Chinese sales in U.S. markets. President Obama’s policies to fight the recession will deliver an inadequate, temporary lift to the U.S. economy, and he has not offered meaningful policies to reduce the trade deficit. He fails to challenge China’s subsidies for domestic petroleum consumption and to even acknowledge the threat to American prosperity posed by China’s currency mercantilism. Industrial policies to promote exotic alternatives to conventional oil, conservation and battery powered cars will hardly dent oil imports for many years, and will create jobs numbering in the thousands, not the millions lost in the recession. Left to fester much longer, the trade deficit could cause an economic Armageddon reminiscent of the Great Depression. President Obama, afraid China won’t buy U.S. debt, won’t challenge China on currency and trade. That demonstrates how little Obama and Treasury Secretary Geithner understand about money and trade. If China doesn’t buy our bonds, all those dollars Beijing purchases to keep its yuan cheap will get stashed in the vaults of the Peoples Bank of China and go out of circulation. China undervalues its currency to boost its U.S. sales, domestic employment and growth. Its economic miracle is engineered by Beijing buying hundreds of billions of U.S. dollars, with freshly printed yuan, to keep its currency undervalued and Chinese products inexpensive in U.S stores. Then China uses those dollars to buy U.S. Treasury securities. I reiterate America has no jobs because the global companies love money more than America (these companies need to decide if they are American or Chinese). If they leave their manufacturing facilities in China, laws need to be passed that they move their headquarters there too. Then they can live under communist law. America has no jobs because our free trade laws are a joke. America has no jobs because of our trade deficit. So who does our President invite to the job summit today for input and advice? The very same people who have been instrumental in the slow destruction of our country- the leaders of the global companies. Let me stress one simple fact, if our leaders do not make these changes, nothing else will work. The fixes will mean that we have to stand up to China and the global companies and to do so now.
Posted by: you_can_call_me_roy | December 4, 2009, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
What about people who are not in same area or state where they lived before.
But because they became homeless had to move back with a parent who actually dided them for home health help. Jobs in that area are little to none and they are passed the age of consideration for most jobs.
If they take work less then they were paid they will be unable to get social security at a reasonable pay scale.
Tell me how can we make this right or fair for those who are in their few years left to collect for social security.
Posted by: Jackie | January 13, 2010, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
Please address this for everyone who is in this age gape.
Posted by: Jackie | January 13, 2010, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm