President Obama Attempts Reassurance on Ft. Hood Shootings, Unemployment
On a chilly morning, President Obama came to the Rose Garden Friday morning to try to offer reassurance in the wake of both the Fort Hood shootings and dismal economic news, suggesting — regarding the latter issue — that he was considering even more economic stimulus measures.
Offering what he called an “update” on the Fort Hood tragedy, the president said he met with FBI Director Robert Mueller as well as the leaders of relevant agencies “to discuss their ongoing investigation into what caused one individual to turn his gun on fellow servicemen and -women. We don’t know all the answers yet, and I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts.”
The president then mentioned the “families, friends and an entire nation grieving right now for the valiant men and women who came under attack yesterday in one of the worst mass shootings ever to take place on an American military base.”
He announced that from this morning until Veterans Day, the flags at the White House and other federal buildings will be flown at half-staff, what he called “a modest tribute to those who lost their lives even as many were preparing to risk their lives for their country, and it’s also a recognition of the men and women who put their lives on the line every day to protect our safety and uphold our values.”
The president said, “we honor their service, we stand in awe of their sacrifice, and we pray for the safety of those who fight and for the families of those who have fallen.”
Turning to this morning’s news that unemployment has risen to 10.2%, the president also announced that he signed into law a bill that he said “will help grow our economy, save and create new jobs, and provide relief to struggling families and businesses,” the need for which was “made clear by the jobs report that we received this morning.”
The bill, he said, “extends unemployment benefits for up to 20 additional weeks, with the longest extension for the hardest-hit states.”
The money won’t “just put money into the people’s pockets who are receiving the benefits,” he said. “Economists tell us that when these benefits are spent on food or clothing or rent, it actually strengthens our economy and creates new jobs.”
The bill will also cut taxes for struggling businesses and extend the tax credit for all homebuyers through April of next year.
The president said that he was considering further stimulus measures, with his economic team “looking at ideas such as additional investments in our aging roads and bridges, incentives to encourage families and businesses to make buildings more energy efficient, additional tax cuts for businesses to create jobs, additional steps to increase the flow of credit to small businesses, and an aggressive agenda to promote exports and help American manufacturers sell their products around the world.”
The president made sure to underline that “we lost fewer jobs than we did last month,” and said when he first came to office his goal “was to stop the free-fall that caused our economy to shrink at an alarming rate. We’ve succeeded in achieving that goal, as our economy grew last quarter for the first time in a year. But history tells us that job growth always lags behind economic growth, which is why we have to continue to pursue measures that will create new jobs.”
The president promised “that I won’t let up until the Americans who want to find work can find work, and until all Americans can earn enough to raise their families and keep their businesses open.”
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No shout outs? Too bad I didn’t get to see this one without the media’s filters put in place.
Posted by: Axey | November 6, 2009, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
The president promised “that I won’t let up until the Americans who want to find work can find work, and until all Americans can earn enough to raise their families and keep their businesses open.”
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Oh, please, Mr. Obama. Let up.
Especially with that “socialist mop.”
Posted by: Enough | November 6, 2009, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
“We don’t know all the answers yet, and I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts.”
“Acted stupidly” – ring a bell?
Posted by: Visualize World Peas | November 6, 2009, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
“we lost fewer jobs than we did last month,”
And I gained less weight than I did the month before.
Posted by: Visualize World Peas | November 6, 2009, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Is this President as STUPID and Moronic as he appears?
A domestic terrorist attack occurred on an Army base and the left wing America haters are trying to bury the fact that is Terrorist is a Muslum… If a white man walked into the NAACP and killed 13 Blacks.. the media would be screaming RACISM on a continous loop.. We know where you stand now ABC, CBS, and NBC along with this so called President…BTW.. hows that stimulus working for ya?????????
Posted by: mickey maoist | November 6, 2009, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Whoopie! I can get a tax credit now that my home is worth 40% of it’s value prior to the housing collapse! Throw in a hundred grand of my own money and I can move!
So where were you guys two years ago? Oh, that’s right – getting ready to bail out the deadbeats who took out liar loans – and giving Hank Paulsen unlimited use of a trillion or so dollars so he could hand over $85 billion to Goldman Sachs!
Posted by: Visualize World Peas | November 6, 2009, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Posted by: mickey maoist | Nov 6, 2009 12:52:14 PM
Time for another Timoth McVeigh story to take the heat off the religion of peace.
Posted by: Visualize World Peas | November 6, 2009, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
No shout outs and no apologies.
But still cold, nonchalant, disconnected
sentiments.
Honestly when you give speeches daily for almost three years maybe you get desensitized. Or maybe that is just who he is.
Obama just reads the script.
No emotions.
Posted by: larry | November 6, 2009, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Golf on Sunday?
Posted by: kyle | November 6, 2009, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
“But history tells us that job growth always lags behind economic growth”
Unless a Democrat is in office with a democratically-controlled Congress. Then it lags behind until the Republicans gain control again.
(Hit me with your best shot. I know you want to!)
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 6, 2009, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
The Hollow Man.
Posted by: hank | November 6, 2009, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Extending unemployment benefits raises taxes on small businesses. That’s just what we need during a time of 10.2% unemployment, right Obama?
Posted by: Dale | November 6, 2009, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
No shout outs? Guess the telepromptor was working today. He has the personality of a bent trash can and the leadership of a snail.
Posted by: dondar | November 6, 2009, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
“we lost fewer jobs than we did last month,”
And I gained less weight than I did the month before.
Posted by: Visualize World Peas
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I got a good laugh out of that one.. great post!!
Posted by: mickey maoist | November 6, 2009, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
“we pray for the safety of those who fight and for the families of those who have fallen”
Will that be in church on Sunday or on the 3rd Hole?
Seriously, it will be interesting to see if “those who tickle his ears” will remember to advise him he should attend church on Sunday to honor the dead and their families. And with his attendence record so far, he’ll get criticized no matter what he does. And deservedly so.
(Please don’t bother to post the Bush went to church while he sent our boys to die post. Be responsive – not deflective.)
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 6, 2009, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
He’s not reassuring or comforting.
Did someone have to tell him the shout outs yesterday were terribly disturbing?
Couldn’t he figure that out on his own?
Posted by: millie | November 6, 2009, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
It is true that unemployment benefits are one of the best types of stimuli, if stimuli is good at all. Too bad we bailed out Wall Street at all of our expense. I would have rather the money flow into our pockets instead.
Posted by: Huh | November 6, 2009, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
The man is so out of touch I’m surprised he didn’t say “Fired Up-Ready to go” after his lighthearted shout out.
He’s clueless and so are his speechwriters.
Posted by: tyler | November 6, 2009, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Extending unemployment benefits raises taxes on small businesses.
Posted by: Dale | Nov 6, 2009 1:07:00 PM
Another disgruntled right winger complaining about a non-issue. [rolls eyes]
(Do I need a /sarc tag?)
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 6, 2009, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
It is true that unemployment benefits are one of the best types of stimuli, if stimuli is good at all.
Posted by: Huh | Nov 6, 2009 1:11:56 PM
Huh?
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 6, 2009, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Seriously.
Obama needs to get a grip.
Someone please tell him he is Commander In Chief. In times of national tragedy someone in the White House needs to act like an adult.
Posted by: bailey | November 6, 2009, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Yesterday was Obama’s first chance to address the nation about the shooting with all the news cameras there while he was at the Tribal Nations Conference hosted by the Department of Interior’s Bureau of Indian affairs. The president started the event and thanked various staffers and offered a “shout-out” to “Dr. Joe Medicine Crow — that Congressional Medal of Honor winner.” (The Medal of Honor is for military not civilians like Dr Crow – he probably got the Medal of Freedom) Three minutes in, the president spoke about the shooting, in measured/appropriate terms. Obama needed to give a freaking shout-out BEFORE acknowledging what happened. The man is out of touch and unprofessional and disrespectful to the military.
Obama’s teleprompter was already set up for the speech he gave…there was no time to correct it…..the show just went on……sad, so sad for the United States to have this kind of leader……..
Now the unemployment rate tops 10 percent for first time since 1983; 190,000 jobs lost in October. It looks like Rahm/Pelosi/Reid will now try to use any and every crisis to get government healthcare passed. They have already said that the Obamacare bill will be deficit neutral. Now they will also find away to say that Obamacare will save or create jobs. Sure, right..
Posted by: bl | November 6, 2009, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
Offering what he called an “update” on the Fort Hood tragedy, the president said he met with FBI Director Robert Mueller as well as the leaders of relevant agencies “to discuss their ongoing investigation into what caused one individual to turn his gun on fellow servicemen and -women. We don’t know all the answers yet, and I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts.”
Really? Amazing how a professed Muslim goes off and shoots his “fellow servicemen” and we are told “I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts”, yet, when a black professor gets arrested by a white police officer, the police department acted “stupidly” according to Obama. Did he have all the facts when he made that comment? No, he didn’t. In fact when more details came out, it seemed as though the professor had alot more to do with the arrest than anyone thought at the time.
I think it is apparent why he does not want us to jump to conclusions about this horrible situation. Remember almost immediately after taking office he made SURE that we all knew “we are not at war with Islam” and how we needed to work together with the Muslim community to come to a civility amongst us. He is now stuck in a situation with no answer out of it. Eating crow is never pleasant.
Posted by: Shoe | November 6, 2009, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
At least Obama talked about Fort Hood first before he went on to the economy.
Just checking off the list of his presidential obligations.
Posted by: nate | November 6, 2009, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Don’t jump to conclusions…
Obama doesn’t want anything to derail Health Care.
His legacy
Posted by: cal | November 6, 2009, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Seriously, we’re not to jump to conclusions? Think about it, what’s his last name???? DUH…
Posted by: babs | November 6, 2009, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
I’m blown away with the last couple of days -
Mass shooting on one of our largest military bases and the response is from the local police?? That’s lame! Where were the MP’s?? What kind of military are we running ?? and now the shotter is at large?
Now 10.2% unemployment, and we are mired down in the tub of fresh cement
called “Health Care”
Didn’t this guy listen to the exit polls after the Tues. elections?
He is rapidly loosing the voters who elected him – The independants.
His union & black block votes don’t make the math.
Posted by: PDT | November 6, 2009, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
I listened to Obama’s first comments yesterday after it happened and he had not one ounce of sincerity or concern in his voice he was cold emotionless. Scary! And as for Unemployment 10.2 higher than expected? 190,000 jobs lost in October? I am confused where are the 650,000-1,000,000 jobs Obama and Biden keep talking about? And if my math is correct 10.2% is higher than 8% correct? What happened to the wont go above 8% talk? What happened to Fiscally Responsible Mr President yet you will sign when approved a 1.2 trillion dollar Health Kill Bill effectively Giving the Government another 18% ownership of our Economy…Lets see since you Became President the Government has taken control of 48% of our Economy! Sounds Like Obama has got us all by the B*lls!
Posted by: batesba74 | November 6, 2009, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
I expect Obama to pull a Jimmy Carter and deliver a fireside chat while wearing a cardigan sweater, talking about the “malaise” which has descended on our land, and telling us to turn our thermostats colder this winter to save the country.
Posted by: Obamatopia | November 6, 2009, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Obama’s Frightening Insensitivity Following Shooting
Screams the headlines from NBC Chicago
Posted by: mickey maoist | November 6, 2009, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
So a muslim shouting allah akbar commits mass-murder and we’re supposed to show restraint.
Concerned in OH | Nov 6, 2009 1:51:42 PM
What would you rather we do? Burn down some Muslim temples? Bomb a random Islamic country? Take pot shots at guys wearing turbans at gas stations (that really hurt a few American Sikhs after 9/11)? Maybe go pee on any graves in Arlington with crescents on the tombstones?
What EXACTLY do you want to whip up a mob to do that the government isn’t already doing?
Posted by: jhw539 | November 6, 2009, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
“So a muslim shouting allah akbar commits mass-murder and we’re supposed to show restraint.
Concerned in OH | Nov 6, 2009 1:51:42 PM”
You would have thought spreading the Ashley Todd hoax would have taught you restraint.
I guess not.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 6, 2009, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
“Just like the 10000s of pundits, bloggers, and reporters that were smearing conservatives within seconds of that holocaust murder?”
The Free Republic poster who had previously attacked the Federal Reserve Board who then murdered a guard trying to shoot up the Holocaust museum.
Sounds like a Bircher to me.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 6, 2009, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
@Huh: Shout outs? Where are you getting that? He was acknowledging the coordinators of the CONFERENCE he was attending. Something lots of people do then they’re addressing a conference!
On the “don’t jump to conclusions”: The Ft. Hood shooter was a well respected psychiatrist that’s helped hundreds of men and women returning with PTSD. He’d also been through three tours of duty, and was preparing to go for a fourth tour, despite being in therapy himself for trauma he had from both his previous service AND from helping people deal with their trauma professionally as part of his job. It sounds to me like he snapped. If he were a “Muslim extremist” as people are assuming, he would have gone AWOL a long time ago. Not waited and continued to serve our country for years, to the point of suffering himself, waiting for the opportune moment to strike…
Lots of the comments here sicken me. Learn a little before jumping to conclusions. That’s all that’s being asked. Clearly a little much for most of the commenter here.
Posted by: Woody | November 6, 2009, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
e being in therapy himself for trauma he had from both his previous service AND from helping people deal with their trauma professionally as part of his job.
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Woody- where did you get this information?
Posted by: MayBee | November 6, 2009, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Woody | Nov 6, 2009 2:53:42 PM: is anything you said true? He had not served yet this was to be his first tour, He had a history of saying Muslims should stand up and Fight the Invaders (American Soldiers) He respected Car Bombers!
Posted by: nobama12 | November 6, 2009, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
WOODY: Here is the transcript. This was a special news Conference to talk about the Murders specifically! OBAMA: Please, everybody, have a seat. Let me first of all just thank Ken and the entire Department of the Interior staff for organizing just an extraordinary conference. “I want to thank my Cabinet members and senior administration officials who participated today. I hear that Dr. Joe Medicine Crow (ph) was around, and so I want to give a SHOUT OUT to that Congressional Medal of Honor winner. It’s good to see you. ”
Obama’s Frightening Insensitivity Following Shooting
Posted by: nobama12 | November 6, 2009, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
WOODY: Here is the transcript. This was a special news Conference to talk about the Murders specifically! OBAMA: Please, everybody, have a seat. Let me first of all just thank Ken and the entire Department of the Interior staff for organizing just an extraordinary conference. “I want to thank my Cabinet members and senior administration officials who participated today. I hear that Dr. Joe Medicine Crow (ph) was around, and so I want to give a SHOUT OUT to that Congressional Medal of Honor winner. It’s good to see you. ”
Obama’s Frightening Insensitivity Following Shooting
Posted by: nobama12 | November 6, 2009, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
===” We don’t know all the answers yet, and I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts.”===
Unless of course you are a police officer in Cambridge, MA and you have acted stupidly. Then it is right fine and dandy to jump to conclusions without all of the facts.
Posted by: Axey | November 6, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
How is that Obama giving “shout outs” then as if an after-thought the Narcissist in Chief remembers the 13 soldiers murdered on American soil. The man-child president is in WAY over his head!
Posted by: Tobias2012 | November 6, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Not only that, but Dr Joe Medicine Crow is not in fact a Congressional Medal of Honor winner.
Obama gave him the Presidential Medal of Freedom, and Congress gave him the Congressional Gold Medal. Both of those are civilian awards.
The Congressional Medal of Honor, of course, is the highest award for military valor in action.
Posted by: MayBee | November 6, 2009, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
I’ll chalk up the shootings in Texas and Florida as nutcases feeling the effects of a near full moon even though it seems to me that someone spewing hatred on web sites should have been looked into.
Posted by: david | November 6, 2009, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Soldiers are dead, killed by one of their own and we’re not sure why he did it yet.
But the right wing is more concerned with pushing their shout out meme.
Sickening.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 6, 2009, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Hey, I’d like to give a shout out to Chief J Strongbow. What the heck is this guy in the Whitehouse doing? What an embarrassment!!
Posted by: Walsh | November 6, 2009, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
“You would have thought spreading the Ashley Todd hoax would have taught you restraint.
I guess not.”
Posted by: Ryan C | Nov 6, 2009 2:48:30 PM
“You would have thought spreading the LIE that New Jersey police were suppressing voter turnout would have taught you restraint.
I guess not.”
Posted by: Election Czar | November 6, 2009, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Yesterday Rep. Weiner was debating health care with some other republican Rep. Right out of Weiners mouth was lamblasting profits of insurance companies even though insurance companies, from an investment standpoint can be beat by many other industries. Uncertainty breeds fear and if companies, any company sees the Government ready to dismantle one business then they worry about what will be done to them.
No matter how much money the President allocates to pet projects the economy will not grow until nerves are calmed and an absolutely incompetent Government backs away from private enterprise.
Posted by: david | November 6, 2009, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
I’m appalled by the right wing on here who continue to dishonor the soldiers by using their deaths to trot out personal political agendas, smear the President and anybody else who doesn’t agree with them.
Have some common decency and respect for the dead.
Posted by: tierra | November 6, 2009, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
I’m appalled by the right wing creeps
Posted by: tierra | Nov 6, 2009 3:50:18 PM
So are you REALLY appalled – or are you just sayin’ your appalled?
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 6, 2009, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
“Yesterday Rep. Weiner was debating health care with some other republican “Rep. Right out of Weiners mouth was lamblasting profits of insurance companies even though insurance companies, from an investment standpoint can be beat by many other industries.”
Name the “many other industries) that generate more than the BILLIONS in profit health insurance companies do every single year.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 6, 2009, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
“You would have thought spreading the LIE that New Jersey police were suppressing voter turnout would have taught you restraint.”
You really have no idea of the history of New Jersey politics and ugly incidents in which the police were used to intimidate people from voting do you?
Ignorance is bliss for right wingers.
Wiki:”The National Ballot Security Task Force were a controversial group set up in the United States of America by the Republican National Committee in 1981, in New Jersey in a bid to win a gubernatorial election. They were alleged to have carried out ‘voter-suppression’ and intimidation.
The force consisted of a group of armed, off-duty police officers wearing armbands, who were hired to patrol polling sites in black and Hispanic neighborhoods of Newark and Trenton.
Initially, letters were mailed out (using an outdated voter registration list) to largely Latino and African-American citizens. 45,000 letters were returned as non-deliverable; these 45,000 addresses were converted into a list of voters. These voters were challenged by the BSTF. The Republican National Committee filed a request for election supervisors to strike these voters from the rolls, but the Commissioners of Registration refused when they discovered that the RNC had used outdated information”
Posted by: Ryan C | November 6, 2009, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
When right wingers today wonder why many minorities refuse to vote for the Republican party they can learn about incidents like the National Ballot Security Task Force.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 6, 2009, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Was Obama reading his condolences off a tele-prompter Thursday evening? He kept looking down at the podium.
Posted by: Ed Taylor | November 6, 2009, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Name the “many other industries) that generate more than the BILLIONS in profit health insurance companies do every single year.
Posted by: Ryan C | Nov 6, 2009 4:07:42 PM
Don’t you mean the 6% profit margin?
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 6, 2009, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Tierra–
This is America. Men and Women have sacrificed their lives from the founding of this country to protect the right to freedom of speech. Today all those who die are volunteers. Anyone, including you, can say anything they want, it has been paid for.
Posted by: jerry | November 6, 2009, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Tierra–
This is America. Men and Women have sacrificed their lives from the founding of this country to protect the right to freedom of speech. Today all those who die are volunteers. Anyone, including you, can say anything they want, it has been paid for.
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Oh sure, people can dishonor the dead by telling lies and attempting to smear the President using those very deaths.
I’m just suggesting people should show a little character, and respect . . .
Posted by: tierra | November 6, 2009, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
—Wiki:”The National Ballot Security Task Force were a controversial group set up in the United States of America by the Republican National Committee in 1981, in New Jersey in a bid to win a gubernatorial election. They were alleged to have carried out ‘voter-suppression’ and intimidation.
The force consisted of a group of armed, off-duty police officers wearing armbands, who were hired to patrol polling sites in black and Hispanic neighborhoods of Newark and Trenton.—
Posted by: Ryan C | Nov 6, 2009 4:10:45 PM
The National Ballot Security Task Force was created to stop the decades long corruption of elections by the Democrat/Big Union cartel by targeting bogus, illegal, and multiple registrations—like what ACORN and other leftist “community organizers” do today.
So naturally, you fall in line with the NY Times lefties cited in that pathetic Wiki article. And to top it off you indulge in that favorite Liberal pastime, attacking the police.
Whatever, pal. Go back to watching Keith Olbermann. The Wiki stuff you cited is about his low quality.
Posted by: Election Czar | November 6, 2009, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
“Don’t you mean the 6% profit margin?”
Yes which equates to BILLIONS.
The health insurance companies prefer the right wing parrots use the percentage rather than the dollar figure.
Because they know the dollar figure puts people off while the percentage does not seem like all that much.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 6, 2009, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Name the “many other industries) that generate more than the BILLIONS in profit health insurance companies do every single year.
Posted by: Ryan C | Nov 6, 2009 4:07:42 PM
From an article on Yahoo News: “The latest annual profit margins of a selection of products, services and industries: Tupperware Brands, 7.5 percent; Yahoo, 5.9 percent; Hershey, 6.1 percent; Clorox, 8.7 percent; Molson Coors Brewing, 8.1 percent; construction and farm machinery, 5 percent; Yum Brands (think KFC, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell), 8.5 percent.”
Posted by: Rican | November 6, 2009, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
The bill, he said, “extends unemployment benefits for up to 20 additional weeks, with the longest extension for the hardest-hit states.”
The money won’t “just put money into the people’s pockets who are receiving the benefits,” he said. “Economists tell us that when these benefits are spent on food or clothing or rent, it actually strengthens our economy and creates new jobs.”
I’m confused. If the bill extends benefits, then the people who receive them will continue to spend the money on food, clothing and rent at the same rate that they were spending before their benefits ran out. How does this create new jobs or are we counting jobs “saved” again?
Posted by: WhereWasThePress? | November 6, 2009, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
What is wrong with profits? I guess it is a dirty word for the unimaginative losers who can’t abide the success of others. Profits are what drive the economy-even Lenin saw that.The unemployment rate is 10.2% at best-wouldn’t you want a business to be profitable and grow so that it can hire more employees?China is now an economic powerhouse because it recognized the central role of the profit motive in economic success.Where do you think profits go-into a chest under the bed?As far as the insurance companies, they employ thousands of workers.What are they going to do if the private insurance system is destroyed?Sell apples?
Posted by: Nephron | November 6, 2009, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
Posted by: Rican | Nov 6, 2009 6:13:50 PM
“The health insurance companies prefer the right wing parrots use the percentage rather than the dollar figure.
“Because they know the dollar figure puts people off while the percentage does not seem like all that much.”
Economies of scale (almost everybody is captive) allows health insurance companies to make BILLIONS in profit.
Posted by: tierra | November 6, 2009, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
“Yum Brands (think KFC, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell), 8.5 percent.”
Yahoonews: “Chain restaurant operator Yum Brands (YUM) said Tuesday that its fiscal third-quarter profit climbed 18%, thanks in part to robust business in China.
The company that owns Taco Bell, KFC and Pizza Hut earned $334 million, or 69 cents a share, for the period that ended Sept. 5. That compares with a profit of $282 million, or 58 cents a share, during the same period last year.”
WSJ: “UnitedHealth Group Inc.’s second-quarter earnings more than doubled amid prior-year charges and an increase in revenue, though enrollment continued to decline as U.S. unemployment mounts.
UnitedHealth reported a profit of $859 million, or 73 cents a share, up from $337 million, or 27 cents a share, a year earlier. Prior-year items including legal settlements cut that period’s profit by 40 cents.”
Posted by: Ryan C | November 6, 2009, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
The health insurers try to show numbers that minimize their profits as they spend millions after millions on lobbyists, media blitzes, bogus studies and congressional campaign coffers. Any industry that is making so much profit that they can afford to spend so incredibly much on influencing the process is making way too much. Don’t be fooled.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | November 6, 2009, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
I had to look up Ashley Todd. I had no idea who Ryan C. thought was so important to right wingers. I still don’t know why Ryan C. keeps bringing her up.
Posted by: Axey | November 6, 2009, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Barack says: “We don’t know all the answers yet, and I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts.”
What exactly are the conclusions we should not jump to? That Hasan was a muslim who shouted Alahu Akbar as he killed American soldiers? The killer was angry at the U.S. response to 9/11 because he was a muslim and he viewed those soldiers who were deploying as the infidels who deserved to die. If he can’t come to those conclusions then Barack is either a fool or he is morally deficient.
Posted by: Jason | November 6, 2009, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
My wife is an eye doctor for the Navy and sees those service members who are deploying every day. This hits really close to home as Hasan went into a facility similar to where my wife works. They need to allow service members who are pistol and/or rifle qualified to be armed on base so they don’t have to wait for the civilian security guards to come and save them from a killer. We trust these men and women to protect us, let them protect themselves by being armed. We also need to kick the members of the military out who have expressed their opposition to the U.S. and their approval for our enemies. These are common sense things that our PC worshipping leadership need to have the courage to implement.
Posted by: Jason | November 6, 2009, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
I had to look up Ashley Todd. I had no idea who Ryan C. thought was so important to right wingers.”
Ahsley Todd was a Young Republican who faked an attacked on herself claiming a black man had beat her up and carved a B in her face. The President oif the Young Republicans took her info and passed it along to right wing media some of which reported it without any skepticism. Some right wingers thought the backwards B was a clue that it was not real and held off.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 6, 2009, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Ashley Todd copied Tawana Brawley, but without the dog feces.Tawana faked an attack on herself claiming a white man beat her up and smeared dogdo on her,among other things.Al Sharpton took her info and passed it along to the left-wing media which the majority reported without any skepticism.Hardly any left-wingers thought that the dog feces was a clue that it was not real. The difference was that Al Sharpton got sued for defamation and lost( although he didn’t pay the judgement).
Posted by: Nephron | November 6, 2009, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Ashley Todd copied Tawana Brawley, but without the dog feces.Tawana faked an attack on herself claiming a white man beat her up and smeared dogdo on her,among other things.”
Actually 20 years ago she alleged several white men had raped her including police officers. It is thought she did so out of fear of being beaten for returning home after curfew.
Last year Ashley Todd faked her attack and tried assign political motives to it. Young Republicans rushed to publicize the attack which was meant to stri up the angry black man attacking white women just as surely as Brawley;s imagery stirred up attacks by the white establishment against black people.
The difference is posters here did not spread the Brawley hoax but posters have spread the Ashley Todd hoax…even after it was proven to be a hoax.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 6, 2009, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Barack says: “We don’t know all the answers yet, and I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts.”
What exactly are the conclusions we should not jump to? …
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I concluded that Americans continue to show amazing calm and constraint but I’m not sure if I jumped to it.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | November 6, 2009, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
We do show amazing restraint even when we are attacked by terrorists, but at some point we do need to step up and say we are at war with radical Islam and not just “terrorists.”
Posted by: Jason | November 6, 2009, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Too bad Obama didn’t wait to jump to conclusions for the Sergeant Crowley incident. He is the biggest hypocrite.
Posted by: Proud American | November 6, 2009, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
I must have hit a nerve because you took my past remark down. Freedom of the press is only for people who lean left and march in step w/ Nancy Pelosi and co. Wake up…the American people are mad and we are not going to take your liberal crap anymore. 2010 can’t come soon enough.
Posted by: drg | November 6, 2009, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
as normal the first thing this character Obama says is “don’t jump to conclusions”….even though this muslim murderer was reported to have shouted Allah Akbar as he gunned down unarmed people. Dressed in garb. Posted on internet about Islamic radical beliefs. Talked to people about his radical views. And Obama says “don’t jump to conclusions”….why does this character’s first response is ALWAYS to deflect from the truth? Scary.
Posted by: Ed | November 6, 2009, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
How can this poor, overmatched dope reassure anyone about unemployment? He and the Pelosi fools have wasted six valuable months concocting a monstrosity of a bill that people don’t much want, and certainly don’t much care about, while 3.3 million people have lost their jobs. The New York Times tells us how bad it really is:
“For all the pain caused by the Great Recession, the job market still was not in as bad shape as it had been during the depths of the early 1980s recession — until now.
“With the release of the jobs report on Friday, the broadest measure of unemployment and underemployment tracked by the Labor Department has reached its highest level in decades. If statistics went back so far, the measure would almost certainly be at its highest level since the Great Depression.
“In all, more than one out of every six workers — 17.5 percent — were unemployed or underemployed in October. The previous recorded high was 17.1 percent, in December 1982.”
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 6, 2009, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
“this poor, overmatched dope”
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | Nov 6, 2009 11:54:03 PM
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The juvenile name calling you use against the President reveals the limited and immature level of your political intelligence. Is this another feature of the right wing in America?
Posted by: tierra | November 7, 2009, 1:17 am 1:17 am
I don’t understand…. we’ve lost 286 American soldiers in Afghanistan since Obama raised his right hand, 59 just last month alone. All the while, as he plays golf, shoots some hoops, campaigns for his party faithful, and “ponders” his Commander’s need for more troops, no one seems to really care.
We lose 13 in a battle in Texas, and it’s suddenly a drama for the news.
And we wonder why this nation is so divided….
Posted by: Laughin_All_The_Way | November 7, 2009, 2:37 am 2:37 am
Obama says “We don’t know all the answers yet, and I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts.”
Gee…. that didn’t stop you with your good buddy, Gates.
MORON!!
Posted by: Laughin_All_The_Way | November 7, 2009, 2:39 am 2:39 am
tierra – Just because we’re critical of the moron we have in the White House today, that doesn’t make us right “wing.”
It’s just that 90% of America stands somewhere to the “right” of Obama… he’s so far left, he’s sitting in the nose bleed section, right next to Pelosi.
Posted by: Laughin_All_The_Way | November 7, 2009, 2:47 am 2:47 am
“the moron we have in the White House”
Posted by: Laughin_All_The_Way | Nov 7, 2009 2:47:43 AM
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The juvenile name calling you use against the President reveals the limited level of your political intelligence.
Seems to be a common feature of the anti-Obama ranters on here.
Posted by: tierra | November 7, 2009, 4:05 am 4:05 am
For a minute I thought he was going to blame George Bush for the Fort Hood incident – Bush lives in Texas, failed Bush policies, 8 years of more of the same, Bush started the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, Change we can believe in, torture technique and all the rest of it.
At least he didn’t blame Bush.
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My bet is that the conversation is not over about Ft. Hood. Maybe not from the President but from the left. Somewhere in the insanity that resulted in this senseless shooting there is a connection between something we did as a nation and what led this goofball to committing this horrific crime.
Or, better yet, maybe there is a conspiracy in there someplace? Then they can tie Cheney and maybe even Rumsfeld to this too.
Posted by: Lone Star Rules | November 7, 2009, 7:32 am 7:32 am
Five more banks failed yesterday (120 total this year). Thank goodness this recession is over. Whew!
Posted by: Chuck | November 7, 2009, 8:49 am 8:49 am
I saw more passion in Obama’s words when he speaks to the SEIU and ACORN, than he did about our fallen soldiers in Ft. Hood!
Posted by: bobc | November 7, 2009, 8:56 am 8:56 am
Just check out CNN.
You will see a lot of excuse making for the killer.
It is fascinating how left wingers are quick to defend a killer such as this, but bash GWBush who kept us safe from these same type killers.
And the dems wonder why independents and conservatives think they are not on our side.
Posted by: jonny | November 7, 2009, 9:20 am 9:20 am
Why does anybody care what this clown says anymore? Everything out of his mouth is either a lie or political spin. I personally can’t stand to look at him.
Posted by: Pittsburgh Patriot | November 7, 2009, 9:26 am 9:26 am
Pres. Obama and the mainstream media should point out that the Ft Hood incident is just a copy of the London massacre several years earlier, which was carried out by a group of native born Muslim terrorists. In the latter case, the British prime minister Tony Blair had immediately paid visit to their Muslim neighborhood and warned them to have tighter control of their kids. Obama needs to do more besides ordering flag lowered. I think the mainstream media here is wrong in giving too much sympathy to the murderer by stating he was harassed by others and he was against the war in mid east.
Posted by: austin | November 7, 2009, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Alyson, you say that Obama is now going to roll out his Afgan stategy the week of Nov. 16th. Why not wait until Dec. 16th, or maybe Nov. 16th of next year? What is the rush? It’s not like men are dying over there or anything. This Afgan strategy should have been in place months ago. McCrystal made his troop request back in August, and Obama has been dithering about what to do ever since. This man couldn’t make a decision to save his life. But it’s not his life that is on the line in Afghanistan now is it?
Posted by: Pittsburgh Patriot | November 7, 2009, 10:37 am 10:37 am
bobc;
“I saw more passion in Obama’s words when he speaks to the SEIU and ACORN, than he did about our fallen soldiers in Ft. Hood!”
Fired up, ready to go!
mmm mmm mmm
Posted by: Axe | November 7, 2009, 10:55 am 10:55 am
“I’m not sure why the remark about not jumping to conclusions by the President is so much more grating to some than similar remarks by those in the military.”
It is a euphemism which assumes the listener isn’t capable of “correct” thought and is therefore patronizing and offensive. The source of the remark makes a big difference.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | November 7, 2009, 11:49 am 11:49 am
That’s right Obama, just keep negotiating with our enemies. While the thought might be nice, what an idiot the president is. I guess he thinks he can change human nature. I so dislike this man and everything he is.
Posted by: vlk | November 7, 2009, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Despite some of the very cynical comments on here, I noticed that the President devoted his weekly address to the horrible shootings at Ft. Hood, and to the military and veterans.
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Doesn’t matter what the President does the right wing attacks him. He can’t even take his kids for ice cream or speak in support of better education without getting smeared. Can’t expect anything different in this scenario.
Posted by: tierra | November 7, 2009, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Economists tell us that unemployment benefits improve the economy and create jobs? Fabulous. Why don’t we all go on unemployment and really get the economy cooking? Then we can all go out and get one of the new jobs we’ve created.
Posted by: SukieTawdry | November 7, 2009, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
So what does Odumba think is encouraging economically? The rapidly rising unemployment? The massive loss of wealth in this country? The best encouragement he could give me is simply shutting the crap up!
Posted by: TxBoB | November 7, 2009, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Let’s raise taxes to stimulate the economy!
New CBO estismates out today:
Senator Gregg: Updated CBO Estimate of House Bill Pulls Back the Curtain on Majority’s Intent to Grow Government by $3 Trillion
Senator Judd Gregg (R-NH), ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee today commented on the Congressional Budget Office’s (CBO) more detailed cost estimate of the manager’s amendment to the House health reform bill.
Senator Gregg stated, “The CBO estimate released last night finally sheds light on the smoke and mirrors game the majority has been playing with the cost of their health care reform proposal. Over the first 10 years, this legislation builds in gross new spending of $1.7 trillion – and most of the new spending doesn’t even start until 2014. Once that spending is fully phased in, the House Democratic bill rings up at more than $3 trillion over ten years.
“Additionally, this bill cuts critical Medicare and Medicaid funding by $628 billion, accounts for nearly $1.2 trillion in tax and fee increases and will explode the scope of government by putting the nation’s health care system in the hands of Washington bureaucrats. The $3 trillion price tag defies common sense – we simply cannot add all this new spending to the government rolls and claim to control the deficit
Posted by: Nothanks! | November 7, 2009, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
GWB sucked, yes. But when he talked about the troops,you could tell it was heartfelt despite his crappy public speaking.
In addressing the tragedy at Ft. Hood, he first freaking thing out of President Obama’s mouth was “don’t jump to conclusions”. Shouldn’t he have mentioned the fallen and their families first? It seems like Obama is more worried about the shooter than those that were murdered.
Then, when he did talk about the troops, he seemed impassionate and insincere, coldly reading the prompter.
I hate to think this about the CIC, but it seems like he really could give a crap about the troops.
Absolutely disgusting.
Posted by: POed | November 10, 2009, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm