President Obama Greets U.S. Troops in South Korea, Wraps Up Week in Asia

Maybe Obama ought to dally a little longer so that Holder can continue to take the heat for his monumentally stupid decision.

I find it incredibly interesting that the Chinese people “miss Bush” after the O’Bama visit. They claim that Bush speaks “not well” but tells the truth while O’Bama talks “sweet but says nothing.”
Posted by: M. Smith | Nov 19, 2009 8:07:23 AM
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The Chinese are very smart while the people who voted for obama and continue to support him are lacking in intelligence.

So let me get this straight, ONLY “one soldier cried out “We love you!” and the Commander in Chief said “I love you back” I’m curious, what did the other 1499 soldiers say or did they just remain silent with a few turning their backs on him?

Oh and there were tons of people with cameras out there from the press – where the heck do they post those pictures???

Did the President say “you make a great photo op” to the troops? Is ABC going to report this? If it is true the man is really dumb.Has he learned nothing? Didn’t he read the comments about Dover AFB? Didn’t he pick up any of the comments about the Ft. Hood publicity fest? Doesn’t he remember the controversy from his first bow overseas? The mark of an ignorant man is the failure to learn from his mistakes.I fear that Mr. Obama cannot even recognize a mistake-it is deja vu all over again.

“We pledge to be there when you come home. I mean, it’s nice here, but we want you coming home,” he [Obama] said.
Are we abandoning our military presence in Korea?

I am an active duty military in the USAF and was in the crowd of the 1500 other members of DOD @ Osan yesterday. Yes, only one person yelled out that “we love you” but we were all in fact enjoying the moment and nobody turned their backs, everyone was cheering and laughing at what the one military spouse had yelled. to whomever it was asked that question earlier in the posts below. and no we are not pulling out of korea. it was a great experience and am proud to serve under this president. if i ever get the chance to see him again while on active duty i wouldnt miss it.

“We pledge to be there when you come home.”
Translation: Bush wasn’t there for you but I am.
Clever innuendo from the Backstabber-in-Chief.

“”You guys make a pretty good photo op,” the president said. ”
From Wapo’s version of this story. Of course, Obama, of course. That’s all everything is to you. A photo op… Actually, upon reflection, everything to you is a photo op OR a conga line.

2 Questions for the President, Jake-
“Mr. President, we now know that Major Hasan shouted ‘Allah Akhbar’ before gunning down over a dozen soldiers in cold blood, and wounding dozens more. We also know that Major Hasan had repeated contact with a foreign jihadist that recruited terrorists, which was known to your Justice Dept and FBI.It is a fact that major hasan had ‘Soldier of Allah’ printed on his business card.Mr. President, is Major Hasan a terrorist, or not?”
And the follow up- “Mr. President, do you regret convicting KSM to death on world TV before his civil trial in NYC and, what prejudicial effect do you believe your statement may have on his conviction or appeal?”

Now it is time to come home and face the music…J-O-B-S (or the lack, thereof)
Posted by: J House | Nov 19, 2009 12:43:04 PM
According to an AP report, 2009 lost jobs are starting to hit families with fixed-rate home loans made to people with good credit: 33 percent of new foreclosures in Q3. last year it was 21 percent with mostly high-risk subprime loans.
This is very bad news. This takes it to a whole new level.

“Loans backed by the Federal Housing Administration also show increasing signs of trouble. More than 18 percent of FHA borrowers are at least one payment behind or in foreclosure.” -AP, 11/19

Mr. President, is Major Hasan a terrorist, or not?”
Posted by: J House
add:
why was he not identified pre 2009, why did the Bush administration allow him to infiltrate the military?

The President wraps up his trip in the shadow of Sarah Palin.
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas
that’s accurate, Palin is a shadow, no substance,
she quits as Gov and now does nothing but lie while the Pres takes care of US affairs

Posted by: Repuke | Nov 19, 2009 2:09:02 PM
Do you see me specifically blaming Obama or defending Bush in my posts? They are all to blame and this administration is just making it worse. I’m an independent contractor whose job ends 12/28. No prospects for January. Unless I find work, I’ll be a statistic in the mortgage foreclosures (fixed rate, good credit, upside down in equity). I won’t show up on the Dept. of Labor’s stats.
re: Palin – just reporting what I see. My opinion is neither here nor there. I’m not the one filling up the ABC News Politics page. Take it up with ABC.

Nearly half the world’s population, and most of the world’s capacity for economic growth, is concentrated in Asia. There are close to 2 billion people in China – do ya think that might be a market?
America can’t rescue our economy based on rising consumer debt and zero savings. We must become a technology exporter.
At this point, only the petty or ignorant comment about Bush’s or Obama’s speaking style, or think our President’s trip to Asia a simply a photo op.
For the past decade, our nation borrowed nearly $1 trillion a year, much from China, using these funds to import consumer goods and buy homes at low interest rates. Recovery from this global recession will require a massive change in direction of capital flows.
So this has not been just a “photo op”. There are serious issues for our President: America’s stand on a system of royalties for technology and guarantees against pirating. China’s environmental problems and human rights. And how we plan on working with China against nuclear arms proliferation and terrorism. And a roadmap for China’s democratization along with stabilizing China’s yuan against the dollar.

There are close to 2 billion people in China – do ya think that might be a market? … We must become a technology exporter.
Posted by: CenterOne | Nov 19, 2009 4:15:40 PM
I may be naive here but me thinks there are some p-r-e-t-t-y strict guidelines about exporting technology. Wee problem with exporting technology is they have this quirky little tendency to reverse engineer everything, make it themselves and then sell it to others cheaper than we can make it. Nuts.
There are some companies making inroads into China such as Intel – they are building a manufacturing plant there to produce chips. I would imagine it is all very tightly controlled.
After technology, what do you have that they don’t already make themselves?
Now you’re down to food and fuel. Fuel we don’t gots thanks to the loopy libs and food well I would imagine we already have that covered.
Any questions?

Palin is a shadow, no substance,
she quits as Gov and now does nothing but lie while the Pres takes care of US affairs
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That is about right – a quitter and a liar. Even the Republican McCain campaign is calling her a petty, vindictive liar.
But she seems like a soap opera character so a certain level of intelligence in America admires her.

That is about right – a quitter and a liar. Even the Republican McCain campaign is calling her a petty, vindictive liar.
But she seems like a soap opera character so a certain level of intelligence in America admires her.
Posted by: tierra | Nov 19, 2009 5:32:25 PM
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20% of Americans have this mindset. It is a small minority. liberals.

“why did the Bush administration allow him to infiltrate the military?”
Why did he wait until Obama’s watch to commit his slaughter?

Why did the Obama administration allow him to stay and commi mass murder? Why was he afraid to do it while Bush was in charge?
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 27% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -14. That matches the lowest Approval Index rating yet recorded for this President .”

“Just like those 9/11 attackers were?”
Bush went out and killed a majority of the planners, ran them out of Iraq, caputured the mastermind, waterboarded him until he gave up valuable intelligence and held him in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Obama is giving him all the civil rights of a US citizen accused of shoplifting.

In a speech delivered six months before his administration decided to try 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed in a federal civilian court, President Barack Obama said he would use military commissions to try terrorists who “violate the laws of war” and to protect intelligence sources and methods as well as the safety of the people who would need to participate in such trials.
In the speech, Obama said: “We are indeed at war with al Qaeda and its affiliates.”

But don’t worry–they’ll run your healthcare just fine:
It’s been an ugly few years for the United States Postal Service. The quasi-government agency announced this week that it lost $3.8 billion in the most recent fiscal year, which ended September 30th. It also delivered less mail – 26 billion fewer pieces less, a nearly 13 percent drop from the previous year. The bad news follows losses totaling $7.8 billion in 2007 and 2008.

“We British are astounded as we watch President Obama go around the globe constantly denigrating and apologizing for the United States. Many of us still remember, or were taught, how twice in the 20th century the people of your country literally saved Europe from itself and freed untold millions from oppression throughout the world ever the past 90 years. The United States has been the greatest force for good in the history of mankind.
“Despite the absolute disaster that is our economy, our pound is up 23% in value to your dollar since Obama was inaugurated. Even the most uneducated of us anchored to a bar stool hoisting our pints understands that Americans cannot keep spending enormous sums of money you don’t have in the hope that the rest of the world will continue to give the United States a blank cheque in perpetuity — or that the Obama administration can continue to print dollars.
“We in Europe are finally getting the message that your President just isn’t that into us. But the question I have is: how much is he into your country?”

Osama bin Laden December 2004:
“I now address my speech to the whole of the Islamic nation: Listen and understand. The issue is big and the misfortune is momentous. The most important and serious issue today for the whole world is this Third World War, which the Crusader-Zionist coalition began against the Islamic nation. It is raging in the land of the two rivers [for the dunces, that would be the country named "Iraq"]. The world’s millstone and pillar is in Baghdad, the capital of the caliphate [for the dunces, that would also be the capital of the country named "Iraq"].
“The whole world is watching this war and the two adversaries; the Islamic nation, on the one hand, and the United States and its allies on the other. It is either victory and glory or misery and humiliation. The nation today has a very rare opportunity to come out of the subservience and enslavement to the West and to smash the chains with which the Crusaders have fettered it.”
The United States and its allies won the victory and glory; for Al Qaeda it was misery and humiliation.
That’s what a wartime leader does.

“Bush went out and killed a majority of the planners, ran them out of Iraq . . .”
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Enough said. Words should mean something.

RCP average Obama approval: 50.6%. Average among voters: 46.7%.
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Not a big deal. President Reagan’s approval ratings went below 40%.

Washington Post:
“Reagan’s low point [54%] hit two years into his first term, just days before a State of the Union speech outlining his plan for bringing the nation out of economic trouble.”

Correction: the 54% “low point” figure was Reagan’s disapproval in the WaPo/ABC poll two years into his term.

President Obama’s approval rating has hit a new low of 46 percent, according to a FOX News poll released Thursday.

“Looking down the list of Al Qaeda leaders killed or captured since Obama took office, we find that…well, we find that there is no such list.”
Probably because you did not bother to look.
Aug 2009
Uk Guardian “The Pakistani Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud was killed in a CIA missile strike, a senior Taliban commander said today.
Kafayat Ullah, an aide to Mehsud, told the Associated Press news agency that Mehsud and his second wife were killed in Wednesday’s missile attack in South Waziristan. He would not provide any further details.”
Sept 2009
ABC “A U.S. commando attack in Somalia has killed an al Qaeda operative who is on the FBI’s list of most wanted terrorists, sources tell ABC News.
The dead terrorist, Saleh Ali Nabhan, is believed to have taken part in the 1998 attacks on U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. He is also believed to have orchestrated the 2002 bombing of a resort hotel in Mombasa, Kenya, and a failed missile attack on an Israeli airliner leaving Mombasa airport. ”
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie

“Bush went out and killed a majority of the planners,”
Which planners of 9/11 have been killed?
“ran them out of Iraq,”
None of the 9/11 planners was in Iraq and neither was Al Queda prior to our invasion.
“caputured the mastermind, waterboarded him until he gave up valuable intelligence and held him in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.”
KSM gave up more info before we waterboarded him contrary to the fantasies of the torture fetishists on the right wing.

Correction: the 54% “low point” figure was Reagan’s disapproval in the WaPo/ABC poll two years into his term.”
Gallup “Indeed, although 1983 began for Reagan with a 35% job approval rating — the worst of his administration — things started to look better.”

Chuck Schumer, November 2001
“There are also those prisoners of war who we have captured and will capture in Afghanistan and other countries who will receive a trial of some sort. It is clear we need to try those suspects in a forum that achieves two primary goals—two goals, I might add, that may not conflict. First, the Government must have the power to use even the most sensitive classified evidence against these suspects without compromising national security in any way, shape, or form. In addition, those who commit acts of war against the United States, particularly those who have no color of citizenship, don’t deserve the same panoply of due process rights that American citizens receive. Should Osama bin Laden be captured alive—and I imagine most Americans hope he won’t be captured alive. But if he is, it is ludicrous to suggest he should be tried in a Federal court on Center Street in Lower Manhattan.”
Schumer lied.

Fascist the liar said “Obama’s drop in approval is the fastest ever recorded by Gallup.”
Gallup: “If his rating falls below 50% before November, it would represent the third-fastest drop to below majority approval since World War II, behind the declines for Gerald Ford (in his third month as president) and Bill Clinton (in his fourth month).”
Obama has yet to fall below 50% in Gallup’s polling
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

Another excerpt from the article written by the editor in chief of the Cyber New Network whose work was stolen by fascist hyena
“Last Friday, Attorney General Eric Holder announced that the administration would use a military commission to try Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, the alleged al Qaeda mastermind of the Oct. 12, 2000 attack on the U.S.S. Cole that killed 17 U.S. sailors. At the same time, Holder announced that the administration would try Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks that killed almost 3,000 people at the World Trade Towers, the Pentagon and in Shanksville, Pa., in a federal civilian court. The attack on the Pentagon killed 55 U.S. military personnel and 70 civilian Defense Department employees.
To apply Obama’s stated criteria for the use of military commissions to the case of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and decide that Mohammed should be tried in a federal civilian court instead of in a military commission, the administration presumable would have needed to determine that in sending covert agents to hijack commercial jets and fly them into the Pentagon and World Trade Towers, Mohammed had not 1) violated “the laws of war” (like Nashiri apparently did in the administration’s view) and that there would be no need at his trial 2) “for the protection of sensitive sources and methods of intelligence-gathering,” 2) to “allow for the safety and security of participants,” and 3) to allow for the “presentation of evidence gathered from the battlefield that cannot always be effectively presented in federal courts.””

Isn’t it great that the US military is nothing but a “great photo op” for the One?

“Actually the President polls at number very close to his election victory numbers.”
50.6% (poll average at RCP) is pretty close to 52.9%.
Hoe much do you think Rasmussen was paid to do that push poll promotion of Palin’s book?

OBAMA: I don’t think it will be offensive at all when he’s convicted and when the death penalty is applied to him.
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TODD: But you also just said that he was going to be convicted and given the death penalty.
OBAMA: Look – what I said was people will not be offended if that’s the outcome.
Obama lied.

Gallup, October 21, 2009:
“In fact, the 9-point drop in the most recent quarter is the largest Gallup has ever measured for an elected president between the second and third quarters of his term, dating back to 1953.”

“Hoe [sic] much do you think Rasmussen was paid to do that push poll…”
Somebody paid off Quinnipiac too, I guess.

“Somebody paid off Quinnipiac too, I guess.”
Quinnipiac did a poll on the Palin book and then included a link to buy the book on their website?
Ummm no they didn’t
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

Wow, Fascist’s lies have become so frequent and so prevalent he just brushes them off like lying means nothing . ..

“But don;t blame Nancy, she was just listening to the Sec of Def on that one.”
Rumsfeld didn’t say the war was over. Pelosi did.

“Fascist the liar said “Obama’s drop in approval is the fastest ever recorded by Gallup.”
Gallup: “If his rating falls below 50% before November, it would represent the third-fastest drop to below majority approval since World War II, behind the declines for Gerald Ford (in his third month as president) and Bill Clinton (in his fourth month).”
When did I say anything about dropping below majority (as he has now in three polls)? I said his drop was the fastest. It was.

The left’s worst nightmare has come true.
Obama is failing miserably.
He is worse than Carter and makes Bush look good.
Obama is America’s worst nightmare.
We’ll be lucky to survive until 2010.
Talk about inheriting a mess.

Thanks, Jenny. Nice to see a couple of adults show up.
And nice to know that 40% of Americans call themselves conservatives.

CHICAGO — Illinois’ unemployment rate continued to climb last month, rising to its highest level in more than a quarter century, officials reported Thursday.

I’ll just give a single example, and let it go at that. The Politico, November 5, 2009:
“Election Day losses in Virginia and New Jersey have congressional Democrats focused like never before on jobs — their own.
“While the White House and party leaders are urging calm, Democratic incumbents from red states and Republican-leaning districts are anything but; Tuesday’s statehouse defeats have left them acutely aware that their votes on health care reform and other major Obama initiatives could be career-enders in 2010 or beyond.
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“I should be nervous,” said Rep. Parker Griffith, a freshman Democrat from Huntsville, Ala.
“Griffith said the Democratic rank and file is ‘very, very sensitive’ to the fact that issues being pushed by party leaders ‘have the potential to cost some of our front-line members their seats.’”
These are the kinds of straws I just love to grasp at–repeatedly.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | Nov 19, 2009 9:39:59 PM
Politicians are almost always concerned about being re-elected – this is nothing new.
What we know from real-world results is that Congressional Democrats recently WON two seats in Congress and in fact the voters booted the Republicans out of a seat they had previously held.
The voters chose to support Democrats in Congress, their policies and the President.
What is really happening is the Republican party has thinned itself out to extremist right wingers and continue (with every extremist statement uttered – like those on this site and many others) to drive people further and further away from that party on a national level.
Reagan hit a low of below 40% approval in his first term and still won reelection. Your attempts to paint things in a certain way are just that . … it holds little relationship to reality.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | Nov 19, 2009 9:53:16 PM
We’ll just leave it that you don’t know how to count very high.

“President Obama’s allies in the Black Congressional Caucus, exasperated by the administration’s handling of the economy, unexpectedly blocked one his top priorities, using a legislative maneuver to postpone the approval of financial reform legislation by a key House committee.”
Countless members of the Caucus privately expressed their exasperation…

You are grasping at straws–repeatedly.
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Not at all . . .
What we know from real-world results is that Congressional Democrats recently WON two seats in Congress and in fact the voters booted the Republicans out of a seat they had previously held.
The voters chose to support Democrats in Congress, their policies and the President.
I don’t hang all my hopes on bogus Rassmussen polls or anything like that – I go on actual voting results.

“it happened during 2008 and the world is still feeling the effects.”
When Obama took office unemployment was at about 7%; Obama has taken it to 10.2%. Obama’s deficit is three times the largest ever incurred in any of Bush’s eight years. His stimulus package has failed utterly. His approval ratings among voters have dropped below 50%, and countless Democrats are very nervous about their prospects in 2010.

Any questions?
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Yes, have you ever studied anything of substance on American international trade?
Posted by: tierra | Nov 19, 2009 5:29:11 PM
No, but t’anks for axin’. I spend most of my time working, commuting, running errands, doing chores, helping out my dad – and reading your idiotic comments. I don’t have a lot of spare time to study anything of substance. Once in a while I get through a Vince Flynn novel. Those are fun, especially when he blows the terrorist away. (PS: It must be wonderful being perfect. Maybe you can tell us about it sometime.)
Don’t you think that’s a better choice for America than continuing to borrow money from China?
Posted by: CenterOne | Nov 19, 2009 5:47:22 PM
Yes, and thanks for explaining why.

Perhaps you do. But countless Democrats are concerned about the actual voting results in Virginia, New Jersey and Pennsylvania.
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State elections can be quite different from national elections . . . different issues, different candidates, different history . . . and so on.
That the Democrats won BOTH recent Congressional elections says more about national issues and support.

President Barack Obama is ”bowing down” to Republicans and corporate interests on health reform, Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) said Thursday. Conyers, the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee and a longtime advocate of single-payer healthcare, blasted the president for a perceived weakness in leadership on health reform. ”I’m getting tired of saving Obama’s can in the White House,” Conyers said on the liberal Bill Press radio show.

Asking if you have studied anything of substance on American international trade is an idiotic comment?
Posted by: tierra | Nov 19, 2009 10:30:53 PM
My comment – my call.

Thank goodness for our troops. I am glad that this administration is appreciating them and showing it with a pay raise. It is the least we can do to show our gratitude for the sacrifices they and their families make every day.

Fascist. You were a fountain of information.
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If you call cherry picking, lies and distortions ‘information’ . . . sure.

Hey, Karen Travers – what about Obama’s snide remark about the great photo op the troops made?
Why didn’t he visit the troops in Afghanistan while he was in Asia since he’s making big decisions on their fate. It would seem with all the other input he’s seeking, he’d want to get a feel on the ground, given he hasn’t been there and never served in the military.

Obama was greeted by a raucous crowd, including one soldier who shouted “We love you!”
“I love you back,” Obama said.
Obama arrived on the base 3:19 p.m. local time (1 a.m. Eastern Standard Time) and received a rousing welcome from 1,500 troops in camouflage uniforms, many holding cameras or pointing cellphones to snap pictures.
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I’ll take the verdict of the troops over some right wingers attempts to smear the President any day.

Some of us supported the troops all along, even during their darkest hours, not just when it was popular. Some of us who support the troops actually live in the U.S. Some of us were writing letters and sending packages when others were saying “the war is lost.” Why wasn’t the First Lady visiting the troops the first 8 years of the struggle? At least Dr. Biden has been doing it all along. Did the President visit the troops before 2006? This is all very scripted and polished. Phony.

The Anti-Defamation League has now identified Beck as the Fearmonger-in-Chief.
And we have some followers on here.
Pretty bad when the Anti-Defamation League has to step forward to condemn a fear monger and hate monger.

I was in the crowd. He did not talk about raising military pay. Rather he talked about increasing benefits for troops, veterans, and families including greater access to VA Hospitals, the GI Bill, etc. Also, this happened at Yongsan Army Garrison, not Osan Air Base. You would think the media would at least attempt to get some things correct!