By Lee Speigel

Nov 18, 2009 11:34pm

President Obama on GM Using Bailout-Enhanced Coffers on Foreign Jobs “We’re Not Going to Meddle”

As we covered earlier this week, at a time when the nation's unemployment rate has soared to levels not seen in decades and GM is cutting thousands of U.S. jobs, the company's CEO is considering spending millions from its U.S. coffers — fattened by $50 billion in taxpayer aid — on its overseas operations, a possibility that has outraged critics and lawmakers.

"I don't think most Americans believe that when the taxpayer bailouts were happening it was intended for that purpose," said Rep. Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y. "It was intended to protect the American economy — not take the money overseas."

On Wednesday, Fox News Channel's Major Garrett asked President Obama what he thought.

"What I have said is that we are not going to meddle in GM's decisions," the president said. They now owe the US government money. We are a shareholder but we are not an active shareholder. We have specifically said that we are not in the business of running a car company."

Mr. Obama said, "we want to make sure that you did not have the collapse of the US auto industry in the midst of a very fragile economic situation. But we want to get out of that business as soon possible. I was pleased to see that GM thinks it may be able to repay some of the US government loans sooner than expected, that's something we would encourage. In the meantime, we're not being, getting involved in day to day management."

- jpt

 

User Comments

It should be obvious, from this, that Pres Obama cares not one wit about the US economy or preserving American jobs. If anyone still has doubts about his intent to destroy this country, they have to be brain dead.

Posted by: Task Force 16 | November 19, 2009, 12:04 am 12:04 am

“It should be obvious, from this, that Pres Obama cares not one wit about the US economy or preserving American jobs. If anyone still has doubts about his intent to destroy this country, they have to be brain dead.”
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“his intent to destroy this country” – it’s pretty psychologically unbalanced to be stating the President is out to destroy the country ….”

Posted by: tierra | November 19, 2009, 12:42 am 12:42 am

Things aren’t going well. People are scared…there is way too much bad news. Reality isn’t as good as hope and change promised to be.

Posted by: wow | November 19, 2009, 1:36 am 1:36 am

Palin Prejean 2012
Michelle Bachman: Attorney general
Liz Cheney: Sec. of State
Virginia Foxx: Dept of Health & Human Services
Glenn Beck: press Sec. @ W.H.
Jean Schmidt: Sec. of Defense
yeeeeeeeeehaw

Posted by: OK | November 19, 2009, 3:07 am 3:07 am

Who is Obama paying off this time ? Oh for the truth of the campaign promises of transparency ! When it was the “banks” he tought to limit salaries, but this is OK. Our tax dollars at work. Socialism at its best.

Posted by: ArmadilloPhil | November 19, 2009, 3:25 am 3:25 am

“GM thinks it may be able to repay some of the US government loans sooner than expected,”
They LOST money again. So they’re going to use borrowed money to pay back borrowed money and no doubt Democrats will think this is progress.

Posted by: drjohn | November 19, 2009, 7:07 am 7:07 am

“his intent to destroy this country” – it’s pretty psychologically unbalanced to be stating the President is out to destroy the country ….”
Only if it wasn’t true.
Blowing up the deficit, taking over industry after industry, showing the world how weak we are, piling on one horrible program after another…there’s little doubt as to what’s going on.
None of this is concern for the country. We are all about HIM. We exist for HIM.
That’s why Obama uses the word “I” more than any President in history.
There is no team in I.

Posted by: drjohn | November 19, 2009, 7:12 am 7:12 am

I think it terribly cheapens the argument to state that Mr, Obama “wants to destroy the country” or that he “hates America”.He is doing what he sincerely thinks is best for the country as he sees it.Unfortunately, his views are based on ignorance and inexperience. He has virtually no experience in the private sector, so he has never seen how jobs and wealth are created in a modern market economy.It is as if ” Wild in the Streets” has come to life.Hopefully his ignorance and obvious incompetence will prevent him from advancing his agenda.

Posted by: Nephron | November 19, 2009, 8:39 am 8:39 am

“He has virtually no experience in the private sector, so he has never seen how jobs and wealth are created in a modern market economy.”
Some of us can’t forget that once upon a time not very long ago the Republicans had control of Washington and they supposedly had plenty of business experience and were going to run government the same way. Where did that get us?

Posted by: Skip | November 19, 2009, 9:12 am 9:12 am

…..do we credit on the Administration’s now famous infamous “Jobs
Saved And Created” computerized report for hiring done overseas? Probably.

Posted by: justj joey | November 19, 2009, 10:22 am 10:22 am

“his intent to destroy this country” – it’s pretty psychologically unbalanced to be stating the President is out to destroy the country ….”
It depends on how you look at it. He operates from a Marxist point of view. He firmly believes that a capitalist economic system is unfair. He has said this repeatedly. All of his friends and associates feel this way. All of his cabinet members and czars are very open about this.
He is willing to accept what he thinks will be short term collateral damage (i.e. “destruction”) to achieve a longer term “remaking” of the American economy into a more “equitable” state controlled redistributive model. For the “greater good” of course.
What he doesn’t understand (or maybe does and just doesn’t care) is that you cannot centrally plan a vibrant economy. Statism is a failure. History proves this. It’s not that complicated.

Posted by: marxmywords | November 19, 2009, 11:59 am 11:59 am

“Statism is a failure. History proves this.”
History hasn’t proven that completely unrestricted dog-eat-dog capitalism is much of a success either.

Posted by: Skip | November 19, 2009, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

“… I’ve always been more interested in being being the change I want to see in the world, and that means putting compassion, hope and other lofty things like bravery and charity over things like cynicism and fear.”
I feel the same way. But such feelings don’t tell me very much about what is or is not sound public policy.
An example: I want, as much as any American alive, health care (paid for through sensible, actuarially sound insurance, with help for the needy in getting it). And here we are in the age of the internet, of Google, of Twitter, I-phones and you-name-it: informed and speedy choices about health insurance could become available virtually overnight if the congress would only remove some of the many barriers it has itself erected in the way of such choices. (Think Travelocity. Think Expedia.com.)
And yet here we are, in this magnificent information age, on the brink of enacting a 1950′s, Soviet-style top-down casserole of coercive mandates, fines, penalties, added taxation and costs, all of which will make things quite a bit worse for the 85% of Americans who are now insured, and will confer a dubious benefit on some, but not all, of the remaining 15%.
Common sense tells us we can very easily do much better than that. But the current players in this game are blind and deaf to such possibilities: the entire struggle has become centered on whether a bill–any bill, it would seem, regardless of how unpopular or inefficient–can make it through the congress for the president to sign.
I have never felt so strongly about a piece of social legislation, nor so certain that it is not possible for its consequences to be anything other than disastrous.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 19, 2009, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

“History hasn’t proven that completely unrestricted dog-eat-dog capitalism is much of a success either.”
I don’t know of anyone who advocates it. History has certainly proven that Democratic capitalism provides the greatest abundance and prosperity and the greatest individual liberty for the greatest number of people. Hands down.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 19, 2009, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

I wish everyone here would do me a favor: Google “federal employee health benefits programs.” Then click on the hit that reads “Plan information–Insurance Plans.”
Surf around on that site. Don’t you wish you could choose from among all the plans listed in every one of the fifty states? You could–except the congress won’t let you. Instead, they want Pelosicare.
If you don’t think things are going to get turned upside down in 2010, you had better think again.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 19, 2009, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

History hasn’t proven that completely unrestricted dog-eat-dog capitalism is much of a success either.
The current economic problems are not a result of “dog eat dog capitalism” but rather state intervention in the econcomy.
Every problem we have can be traced back to some “well intentioned” government action. This “crisis” is a result of government backed mortgages that artifically inflated the housing market, and ill advised federal reserve fiscal and monetary policies, period. The banks never would have taken the excessive risks if not for the government insurance (see FHA, Fannie, Freddie).
The next shoe to drop is the ballooning red ink on government entitlements. Social security, medicare and medicaid are all doomed. How exactly is “health insurance reform” going to be any different? Oh I forgot, we’re gonna get those “greedy” insurance companies and take their “profits” for the “common good”.
Please. This philosophy is a lie. Collectivism is a joke.

Posted by: marxmywords | November 19, 2009, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

Didn’t President We-Aren’t-Going-to-Meddle Obama force the GM CEO out?
Is anyone in the media going to call him out on his doubletalk?

Posted by: Joe White | November 19, 2009, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

“It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘meddle’ is. If the–if he–if ‘meddle’ means to involve oneself in a matter without right or invitation, that is not–that is one thing. If it means interfere officiously and unwantedly, that was a completely true statement….

Posted by: Krakatoa | November 19, 2009, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

“Every problem we have can be traced back to some “well intentioned” government action. This “crisis” is a result of government backed mortgages that artifically inflated the housing market, and ill advised federal reserve fiscal and monetary policies, period.”
I would certainly agree that ill advised federal reserve fiscal policies are largely to blame for this crisis, however it isn’t an example of government action, but rather an example if government INaction.

Posted by: Skip | November 19, 2009, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

Posted by: Joe White | Nov 19, 2009 1:36:39 PM
You read my mind.
Let’s not forget the bondholders that were leaned on and demonized by Obama and his union lackeys. How these actions were not criminal is beyond me.

Posted by: tjp612 | November 19, 2009, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Let’s not forget the bondholders that were leaned on and demonized by Obama
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Please detail the bondholders who were ‘demonized’ by Obama – and provide a source and date for this information.

Posted by: tierra | November 19, 2009, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

B. Hussein Obama, April 30, 2009:
“While many stakeholders made sacrifices and worked constructively, I have to tell you some did not. In particular, a group of investment firms and hedge funds decided to hold out for the prospect of an unjustified taxpayer-funded bailout. They were hoping that everybody else would make sacrifices, and they would have to make none. Some demanded twice the return that other lenders were getting.”
Of course, his characterization of the bondholders’ position was deliberately false and misleading, which we have by now come to expect. That’s why his poll numbers have gone in the tank since the time last spring when he could get away with this garbage.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 19, 2009, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm

Of course, his characterization of the bondholders’ position was deliberately false and misleading
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Says who? Fascist we already have pointed out many of your statements here that have been completely false.
Says who? – sources and dates please.

Posted by: tierra | November 19, 2009, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

“They now owe the US government money. We are a shareholder but we are not an active shareholder.”
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This statement just underscores how utterly stupid and little this president understands how business and property rights work. For starters, when you are a shareholder, or own stock, you are not “owed money” in the way you are when you are a bond holder. Your stock is only worth as much as you can get for it when it is sold. There is ZERO recourse to GM if the government, errr the taxpayer, does not receive a positive (or any) return on its EQUITY investment.
This is why bond holders are usually considered “secured creditors”…except in the eyes of the Obama administration, which essentially violated every concept of being a secured creditor in the way they handled the bailout of GM…when you are a shareholder, you are risking 100% of your investment and are not owed anything in the event of another bankruptcy if the secured creditors are not made whole first. Perhaps because of the way the Obama adminstration has trampled property rights since they took office, they somehow now believe that stocks now = bonds.
This buffoon is just making things up as he goes along without any foresight, planning or whiff of contemplating the consequences of his reckless policy initiatives. The hole this crackpot is digging is eventally going to be too deep for us to ever dig out of, and he will be thrown into it by 2012.

Posted by: Mike in Costa Mesa | November 19, 2009, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

This statement just underscores how utterly stupid and little this president understands how business and property rights work. For starters, when you are a shareholder, or own stock, you are not “owed money” in the way you are when you are a bond holder
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Mike the United States did BOTH things. The government loaned money to GM – and became shareholders through additional purchase.
I think the President is correct.

Posted by: tierra | November 19, 2009, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

“Please detail the bondholders who were ‘demonized’ by Obama – and provide a source and date for this information.”
From Politico, 5/13/09 :
…The Economist — the same magazine that “wholeheartedly” endorsed Obama for president — chided the administration for “trashing creditors’ rights” and overriding “the legal pecking order.”
Obama’s idea is to give the bondholders — who are secured creditors, ordinarily entitled to primacy in a bankruptcy proceeding — 29 cents on the dollar for their investment, while awarding 43 cents on the dollar to the employee health care trust controlled by the United Auto Workers, which, despite being a junior creditor, would also receive a majority stake in the new company.
CBS News’ Declan McCullagh, decrying the administration’s disregard for “the rule of law,” noted acidly that the UAW has contributed more than $25 million to Democrats over the past 20 years, and its phone bank was Obama’s last campaign stop on Election Day.
Jack Welch, former GE chairman and no conservative Republican, fretted in BusinessWeek that “the unions, which had a hand in killing Chrysler, now own half its equity.”

Posted by: Krakatoa | November 19, 2009, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

Shucks Ill just buy me another Ford. and go down the road happy.

Posted by: earl | November 19, 2009, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

Posted by: earl | Nov 19, 2009 7:35:26 PM
Yikes, wishing for the demise of the American automobile industry doesn’t seem that smart . .. how many jobs would be lost if GM and Chrysler collapse?

Posted by: tierra | November 19, 2009, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

While I agree with all the comments regarding our fearless leader’s ineptitude (or savvy facade… he is an ivy league lawyer after all) regarding debentures, equities and etcetera.
However I would like to make one salient observation:
” “What I have said is that we are not going to meddle in GM’s decisions,” the president said. They now owe the US government money. We are a shareholder but we are not an active shareholder. We have specifically said that we are not in the business of running a car company.” ”
…err didn’t we (and by “we” I mean our illustrious politbureau in the whitehouse) begin meddling in the affairs of GM when we (insert the “we” disclaimer here again)forced the CEO out, manipulated finance law, and well the list really continues now doesn’t it… because we have installed two ne’ THREE “czars” into the automotive industry.
Auto Recovery Czar – Ed Montgomery who is officially the “Director of Recovery for Auto Communities and Workers” and Car Czar – Ron Bloom (who replaced Rattner) as head of the Presidential Task Force on the Auto Industry
And number three is the Pay Czar – Kenneth R. Feinberg as “Special Master on executive pay” because they are a recipient of TARP funds. the whitehouse IS in the business of setting GM’s executive wages, and the other two ARE in the business of GM day to day operations through the influence they exert on GM descisions.
My point? our fearless leader is talking from both sides of his mouth on a topic that he is either completly ignorant of, or cunningly attempting to maintain plausible deniability and pin the blame on his subbordinates.
Or both.
P.S. Jake Tapper, I hope you read these comments and get a little more emboldened to call a spade a spade when give a line of BS during an interview. if not, I am sure you will soon be replaced with a robot, or a trained animal capable of imitating a journalist.
P.P.S. Jake, I’ll bet you dont read this or care to retort.

Posted by: Flabbergasted | November 19, 2009, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

Let’s see….so this is Change We Can Believe In again? And, this micromanaging President doesn’t want to weigh in on the possibility that GM is considering outsourcing our jobs overseas and they are considering doing it on our money?
This is truly beautiful.
I have to believe even the most liberal among you views this as unbelievable.

Posted by: Lone Star Rules | November 20, 2009, 7:02 am 7:02 am

tierra wrote:
“Yikes, wishing for the demise of the American automobile industry doesn’t seem that smart ”
Earl said he was gonna buy a Ford. That IS an American company.

Posted by: Joe White | November 20, 2009, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

tierra wrote:
“Yikes, wishing for the demise of the American automobile industry doesn’t seem that smart ”
Earl said he was gonna buy a Ford. That IS an American company.
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Right you are!

Posted by: tierra | November 20, 2009, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

GM is considering outsourcing our jobs overseas and they are considering doing it on our money?
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Not sure this really means jobs are being outsourced – it could be instead expanding the company’s operations for the overseas market; creating more production there, but not necessarily through north american job loss.
It does though sound like government money is being used to grow the overseas component of the company.

Posted by: tierra | November 20, 2009, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

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