President Obama to Troops in Alaska: ‘We’ll Give You the Strategy and Clear Mission You Deserve’
EmailABC News' Rachel Martin reports: President Obama stopped off in Anchorage, Alaska today to visit troops at the Elmendorf Air Base, before heading off to Asia for a one-week four nation trip, his first excursion to Asia as president. Much of the president's focus in the past month has been on devising a new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan; he delayed this trip in part so he could hold his 8th meeting with his war council. And the president made comments directly relevant to his decision making to the assembled troops. “I will never hesitate to use force to protect America,” he said to a crowd of approximately 2,000 service members and their families. “I will not risk your lives unless it is necessary to America’s vital interests. "And if it is necessary, the United States of America will have your back. We’ll give you the strategy and clear mission you deserve….That is a promise that I make to you.” He thanked those assembled for their sacrifice, saying he was in Alaska "to say to all of you, all of you who serve, all the families who are here, of all the privileges I have as president, I have no greater honor than serving as your Commander-in- Chief.” He referenced the tragedy in Ft. Hood, Texas last week and again honored the lives of those lost in the shooting and those who put themselves in harm’s way to avoid further bloodshed. He also paid tribute to the servicemen and women from Elmendorf serving on the front lines in Afghanistan and Iraq. “There are no words that are strong enough and no tribute worthy to match the magnitude of your service. The American people thank you.” Before his address, the President met with the family of a soldier who was killed in Afghanistan. He also met with about a dozen troops as he often does on visits to military bases, as a way to hear directly from service members about their experiences on the ground. The first US president to have been born in Hawaii, the 50th state to join the United States, noted that this was his first time to Alaska, the 49th, and thus a milestone. “Up until today I had visited 49 states, so this is officially my 50th state," he said. From Alaska, the President flies to Tokyo, Japan where he’s expected to address a range of topics including climate change, the global economy and the North Korean nuclear issue. He’ll also thank the Japanese government for its renewed support to the international military effort in Afghanistan. That will be followed by stops in Singapore, China, and South Korea.
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It didn’t look like the soldiers behind obama were very happy with him.
Posted by: Jenny | November 12, 2009, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
I’m sure the troops in Afganistan would like the “stragety and clear mission they deserve.” Let’s All be mindful of that when we go to the polls in 2010 and 2012. Thankyou.
Posted by: AmericansLetsRoll | November 12, 2009, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
It didn’t look like the soldiers behind obama were very happy with him.
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This is a very serious time, what with Veteran’s Day just yesterday, a major incident on Ft. Hood, 2 wars taking place – did you expect the soldiers to be giggling?
Posted by: tierra | November 12, 2009, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
I don’t believe or watch ABC,NBC,CNN, or CBS anymore because I don’t believe your services are credible anymore. Your organization is more concerned about being on the White House Guest List than reporting in a truthful manner. Freedom of Speech is for truth, not withholding it!
Posted by: An American Patriot | November 12, 2009, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
“This is a very serious time, what with Veteran’s Day just yesterday, a major incident on Ft. Hood, 2 wars taking place – did you expect the soldiers to be giggling?”
Yes, quite serious. Considering their fellow soldiers are currently dying in record numbers under Obama’s command while their objectives are unclear, they have good reason to be concerned. A lot of us are concerned.
Posted by: Justin | November 12, 2009, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Mr. Obama said to the troops in Alaska, “We’ll Give You the Strategy and Clear Mission You Deserve”. This is the same lines he used on our troups in Afghanistan. That result in an indecisive decision when he said that it is “a necessary war”. It’s not necessary that he said it’s necessary.
Posted by: young_Voter | November 12, 2009, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
This is a very serious time, what with Veteran’s Day just yesterday, a major incident on Ft. Hood, 2 wars taking place – did you expect the soldiers to be giggling?
Certainly not, our soldiers don’t giggle. They leave that to the media. I did note that even when Obama mentioned the pay raises they barely reacted. The looks on their faces and the two officers standing next to him show disdain and distrust.
Posted by: Michelle | November 12, 2009, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Considering their fellow soldiers are currently dying in record numbers
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Yes, quite regrettably Afghanistan was left on the back burner by Bush and Cheney while the Taliban and al Qaeda regrouped and got strong – with serious consequences for our troops and the Afghani people.
It took Bush and Cheney 7 years to put together a strategy on Afghanistan – and even that was thrown together in the fall of 2008 – just before they were getting booted out of office.
Posted by: tierra | November 12, 2009, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
The looks on their faces and the two officers standing next to him show disdain and distrust.
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I guess after how poorly they were treated under the last Commander in Chief, they’re having a hard time believing they really might be getting pay raises.
Posted by: tierra | November 12, 2009, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
From Politico:
Fifty-one percent of Americans oppose sending new troops to Afghanistan, including 44 percent who say it is time to start drawing down the U.S. commitment there, according to a new Gallup Poll.
Gallup: “35 percent of Americans say [Obama] should follow the recommendation of the commanding U.S. general in Afghanistan and increase troop levels by about 40,000. Another 7 percent support a smaller troop increase, meaning a total of 42 percent of Americans support a troop increase of some size. … Last month, using a different question wording, Gallup also found the public largely divided on sending more troops to Afghanistan.
“If Obama decides to increase U.S. troop levels in Afghanistan, he will be going against the wishes of the vast majority of rank-and-file Democrats. In fact, 60 percent of Democrats would like the president to begin to reduce troop levels in Afghanistan, while 26 percent support a troop increase of about 40,000 (18 percent) or less than that number (8 percent).”
Posted by: Justin | November 12, 2009, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
Mr. President, stop the war, get the troops home NOW! Did you promise this like 1 year ago? We voted for you because you promised. GET THE TROOPS HOME NOW!
Posted by: H1N1hysteria | November 12, 2009, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
“WE will give you the strategy and a clear mission.” When Obama? When our troops are all DEAD! That will solve Obama’s thinking problem, but it won’t sovle our troops problem. Yea, what a great leader you are! All you do is go around apologizing to other countries and demonizing America. Yea, Obama, your good at blabling off your big mouth while our troops are in harms way. Mr. big talking man, thats all you are!!!
Posted by: John Demeter | November 12, 2009, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
“I will never hesitate to use force AGAINST America” FTFY.
Posted by: Hymie | November 12, 2009, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
yeah, something that they haven’t had in 8 years…they’ve been dying in Afganistan for 8 years, and not talked about or flown to Dover with T.V. cameras watching….your short attention span was on Iraq only.
The Bush Administration knew full well that Karzi was the Drug Cartel, and paraded him in front of us like he was a legitimate president…Why do you really think that the POPPIE fields has not been destroyed by our military? Duh!!! And the Bush administration placed in brother on the U.S. payroll. To be honest, Bush sent our guys to their deaths without thought, credibility or justification for this war….that did not have a mission, and was “open ended” with no strategies to get out. These guys has been just “lingering” for 8 years.
Posted by: sara | November 12, 2009, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
“I guess after how poorly they were treated under the last Commander in Chief, they’re having a hard time believing they really might be getting pay raises.”
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Civics lesson: the President of the United States does not control military pay. Pay along with all benefits for our warriors is set by the Congress of the United States. Democrats repeatedly tried to reduce and/or totally block funding for our military in order to embarrass the Republican administration.
As for Afghanistan: Make a decision, Mr. President…make the right one…and implement. If you can’t decide what to do THERE, then bring the troops HOME until you do.
They do need a strategy and a plan, they also need enough troops, ammo, weapons and protective gear to survive.
President Obama wanted this job. He said he could do a much better job than anyone else. It’s time to do the job, not intellectualize about it. Being the CIC of the military is NOT the same as deliberating about how to fix banking or auto companies or produce more jobs. People aren’t getting shot or blown up waiting on those things.
And to those who want to blame it all on GWB…I don’t care what happened before….I want action on Afghanistan and Iraq NOW.
Posted by: malcat | November 12, 2009, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
I think it may be time to bring the troops back. Obama is clearly so incompetent that his polices will get them all killed. Once we get this dope out of office and get a real president, we can send the troops back over to finish the job.
Posted by: jonny | November 12, 2009, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Bush did not start the war, the terrorists did. I do not recall Bush sending in terrorist to kill innocent people (3,000 plus)who were sitting at their desks doing their normal daily routine. As I recall Sept. 11 was not planned and executed by President Bush, but the retaliation was and not just by the President. The vast majority of the U.S. stood behind him. Let us not forget our young soldiers who have given much in an effort to protect our freedom and to prevent future attacks on U.S. soil. How soon we foget…
Posted by: bailedout | November 12, 2009, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
“Bush sent our guys to their deaths without thought, credibility or justification for this war….that did not have a mission, and was “open ended” with no strategies to get out. These guys has been just “lingering” for 8 years.”—-
Posted by: malcat | November 12, 2009, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Civics lesson: the President of the United States does not control military pay. Pay along with all benefits for our warriors is set by the Congress of the United States. Democrats repeatedly tried to reduce and/or totally block funding for our military in order to embarrass the Republican administration.
malcat | Nov 12, 2009 9:51:45 PM
Cute lie, but the majority of us remember that the Republicans had full control of Congress under President Bush for longer than the Democrats… But feel free to pass that buck, Republicans are pretty good at it. At least we have a Democrat who is willing to take it and deal with the messes now. (Make no mistake, after already doubling the troops there, Obama owns Afghanistan now.)
Posted by: jhw539 | November 12, 2009, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
“The Bush Administration knew full well that Karzi was the Drug Cartel”
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Sara, any proof to back that up? Or do you have the magical ability to truly KNOW what everyone in the Bush Administration KNEW?
Posted by: malcat | November 12, 2009, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
“Cute lie, but the majority of us remember that the Republicans had full control of Congress under President Bush for longer than the Democrats… But feel free to pass that buck, Republicans are pretty good at it. At least we have a Democrat who is willing to take it and deal with the messes now. (Make no mistake, after already doubling the troops there, Obama owns Afghanistan now.)”
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Please explain where I lied.
I said Congress controlled pay and benefits for the military. Is that where I lied?
I said that Democrats repeatedly tried to reduce and/or totally block funding for our military in order to embarrass the Republican administration. Is that where I lied? Are you claiming that the Democrats fully supported President Bush each and every time that defense spending came before Congress? If you answer YES to that question, than I say to you…BIG FAT LIE.
I am fully aware that Republicans had majority in Congress for much of President Bush’s administrations. I did not say they didn’t. So that isn’t where I lied.
However, Democrats had sufficient force to repeatedly TRY to reduce and/or totally block funding for our military in order to embarrass the Republican administration. Notice the word ‘TRY’.
And for the last 2 years of the last Bush Administration, the Democrats were the majority. I didn’t even mention that in my post…so that isn’t where I lied.
So again, where’s my lie?
Posted by: malcat | November 12, 2009, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
I’ll tell you one thing the Bush administration did- after 9/11 they prevented a terrorist attack on the Homeland: a record of success that ended last week on the watch of Barack Obama.And if you don’t think that it was a terrorist attack I have a bridge to sell you.
Posted by: Nephron | November 12, 2009, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
“a record of success that ended last week on the watch of Barack Obama.And if you don’t think that it was a terrorist attack I have a bridge to sell you.”
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Nephron: The POTUS has no humanly way to keep up with the activities of every nut-job who wants to kill Americans.
Presidents do not have time for that sort of thing, that’s what the FBI, CIA, Homeland Security, and when military personnel are involved..the Pentagon.
It is unfair to personally blame President Obama for Ft. Hood. Just as it was unfair to blame President Bush for 9/11 as some do.
Posted by: malcat | November 12, 2009, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
I said that Democrats repeatedly tried to reduce and/or totally block funding for our military in order to embarrass the Republican administration. Is that where I lied?
malcat | Nov 12, 2009 10:21:14 PM
Yes. Cite the vote where Democrats blocked a Bush request for funding our military. They were falling all over themselves to be seen as supporting the troops, and even added funding on some issues – like money for body armor – to embarass the administration. Cite where they “tried to reduce and/or totally block funding for our military.” Democrats had a majority in the House, cite when they cut the budget.
Also note that the base military budget HAS INCREASED by $21 billion since Democrats took control of Congress and the Whitehouse (and with Obama already having doubled the troops in Afghanistan, it is likely the operational budget has increased too).
Posted by: jhw539 | November 12, 2009, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
The fact: the first terrorist attack on the homeland after 9/11 occured on the watch of Barack Obama.Sorry if the truth hurts.
Posted by: Nephron | November 12, 2009, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
“The fact: the first terrorist attack on the homeland after 9/11 occured on the watch of Barack Obama.Sorry if the truth hurts.”
I’m not disputing it happened while President Obama is in office. I was pointing out that blaming a President for a terrorist attack (or any crime) is simply unfair.
Presidents do not keep up with every hateful person who wants to harm Americans. That’s not their responsibility. It’s all about delegation of power and work assignment.
Posted by: malcat | November 12, 2009, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
The president sets the tone.He doesn’t believe in the war on terror.His administration does not take the terrorist threat seriously.Just look at the comments of the director of homeland security.
Posted by: Nephron | November 12, 2009, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Let us see how the Democrats and the President have helped the U.S. thus far……there was the GMC and Chrysler bailout where we all received autos, being part owners..oh no wrong. Okay there was the bank bailout where we all received billions in bonuses..oh wrong again. Okay there was the stimulus that helped us all..oh wrong again. That helped build a 13 foot tunnel for turtles and other wildlife to cross U.S. 27 in Florida. Surely the health care bill will help us all..we will just be heavily taxed for that one…Well he helped with the unemployment rate not going over 8%…wrong again it’s at 10.2 and rising..Maybe the cap and tax…I just saw Gore as he boarded his jet heading to the bank and he said it will definately help us but he was laughing so hard I didn’t quite get how much he said it would cost us. Somebody let the President and Congress know they have helped us enough and we can take it from here.
Posted by: bailedout | November 12, 2009, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Sorry, I’m not your momma or your secretary. If you are so blinded by resentment and hate towards Republicans that you can’t remember, that’s your problem. The Democrats tried to block and/or reduce funding; I don’t remember if they ever succeeded, but they tried.
malcat | Nov 12, 2009 10:37:13 PM
The Democrats demanded a time table, but NEVER got it because they never once put forth any credible threat of withholding funding, never mind making an attempt. The far left knows this well – they are actually pretty upset about the documented fact that the Democrats have proven even more eager than Republicans to increase military funding (to address the ‘soft on defense’ lable they are susceptible to at election time).
Posted by: jhw539 | November 12, 2009, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
Is it too much to expect that the president give the same clear sense of mission to the troops in Afghanistan that he is promising to those in Alaska?
I suppose it is…
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 12, 2009, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
jwh: It’s apparent you will not change you view, and neither will I.
I love to debate, but I hate to argue. It is so counter-productive and detrimental to our nation.
I will stand by my statements about our troops. The President needs to act quickly. If he can’t make a decision, or decides not to send sufficient troops so they can accomplish their mission AND protect themselves, then he needs to bring them home.
People say they would come home to no jobs. I say our veterans get jobs before anyone else. They are building schools and housing and hospitals over there, we can pay them the same salary to do those things here.
And if we have no jobs for them, then we need to keep them on the military payroll and provide training and opportunities to improve themselves.
We do that sort of thing for civilians, we can do it for our returning warriors.
God bless, and God bless America.
Posted by: malcat | November 12, 2009, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
funny how after 8 years in Afghanistan with a failed strategy, Bin Laden still free, understaffed with a lack of support for the troops, a refusal to send more troops by Bush,….
now….. immediate ‘action’ and decision is demanded by the ‘right’,
the fetid smell of rightwing/republican hypocrisy fills the air……
Posted by: Ouch | November 13, 2009, 12:24 am 12:24 am
I didn’t vote for Bush. But I trust him. At least he kept us safe for 7 years. Look at this weak president, in less than a year we had a terrorist attack at our homeland. Unbelievable. This is just the begining of his presidency.
I didn’t vote for Obama. I never trust him. He is not a decision maker. He is our propaganda in chief. Don’t expect too much from him.
He can’t answer the 3 am call. Hillary, we miss you.
Posted by: talk from sf | November 13, 2009, 1:34 am 1:34 am
funny how after 8 years in Afghanistan with a failed strategy, Bin Laden still free, understaffed with a lack of support for the troops, a refusal to send more troops by Bush,….
now….. immediate ‘action’ and decision is demanded by the ‘right’,
the fetid smell of rightwing/republican hypocrisy fills the air……
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so true . ..
Posted by: tierra | November 13, 2009, 1:50 am 1:50 am
Give me a president like Bush anyday. The terrorists are not afraid now. They have become emboldened and are causibg Obama and the Democrats to hesitate. Obma will not make the decision he must.
Posted by: pjk | November 13, 2009, 4:57 am 4:57 am
“for all Presidents ramming through Congress as much of his political agenda as he can. ”
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Left out important word, should read:
‘for all Presidents THAN ramming through ‘
Posted by: malcat | November 13, 2009, 6:49 am 6:49 am
What’s up with that headline? Do the troops in Alaska need a clear strategy and mission or is it the troops in Af-Pak? I think the troops in Alaska have a clear mission – “Stay warm” ;^)
Posted by: N2vip | November 13, 2009, 7:45 am 7:45 am
Could Obama give one speech where he doesn’t mention himself or say “MY administration?” He has to say how honored he us to be the soldiers’ commander in chief ( subtle reminder thar he’s above them.)
Posted by: Elle | November 13, 2009, 7:51 am 7:51 am
Nephron, only further investigation will tell us if the Fort Hood shooting is a case of domestic terrorism. If it is the fault doesn’t lie with Obama but with the FBI for not considering the major a threat after checking him out. And even then, it is an error built on not imagining how evil people can be to one another. Really, who could imagine the major shooting innocent soldiers while they were unarmed, soldiers just like the ones who he counseled for their mental problems after seeing death and injuries in battle. There were similar errors in judgment that left our domestic airplanes vulnerable. Remember how the pilots wanted their cockpit doors beefed up in case of hijackers, but the profit driven corporate heads said it wasn’t necessary. This was after Israel warned us that our airport security was too lax.
In the Ford Hood incident, most likely it was a case of guy with a grudge with easy access to guns. The major appeared to have that combination of anger, religious righteousness and fear(he was being deployed into the war zone) that can be deadly to innocents.
Posted by: Lydia | November 13, 2009, 7:56 am 7:56 am
“We’ll give you the strategy and clear mission you deserve…”
Sure.
It’s George Bush’s fault that Obama hasn’t gotten close to that as yet. After all, Obama’s only had a year to think about it.
Posted by: drjohn | November 13, 2009, 8:08 am 8:08 am
“the fetid smell of rightwing/republican hypocrisy fills the air……”
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Let’s see if this one gets deleted. Won’t type the long post again.
Ouch and Tierra: you don’t know me so how can you so stupidly claim to know if I did not want action taken by President Bush? Sounds like the fetid air of leftwing arrogance is floating around.
I’m one of the Republicans posting here wanting President Obama to take action. I insist he do it quickly. He doesn’t have military experience so he needs to listen to those who do.
He he can’t make a decison on what to do, than I want him to bring the troops home until he can make a decision.
What the previous administration did or didn’t do is not the issue. The issue is what this administration is going to do. President Obama campaigned saying he could do a better job of running the war….he needs to do it.
Being CIC of the military is NOT the same as being CEO of a business or President concerning the economy. People don’t get shot or blown up with bombs while waiting on a decision about the economy.
Posted by: malcat | November 13, 2009, 8:11 am 8:11 am
Funny how the left cannot be pleased. Also funny is how it is hipocracy now but injustice a few month ago. Use your brain first then consult your heart. Not all answers are going to feel warm and fuzzy. The know-it-alls need to stop pointing fingers in the past and deal with today. Nostalgia is one thing, in my business when people keep blaming the other people they get fired.
Always taught my children when they got in trouble I would ask them what they did to contribute to the problem not what the other person did.
Posted by: daklipper | November 13, 2009, 8:41 am 8:41 am
Also note that the base military budget HAS INCREASED by $21 billion since Democrats took control of Congress and the Whitehouse (and with Obama already having doubled the troops in Afghanistan, it is likely the operational budget has increased too).
Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 12, 2009 10:30:54 PM
In other words, the Democrats and Obama/Biden are war mongerers…
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 13, 2009, 9:25 am 9:25 am
I’m one of the Republicans posting here wanting President Obama to take action. I insist he do it quickly. He doesn’t have military experience so he needs to listen to those who do.
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The Generals have stated the President has time to deliberate and receive the best council on this issue because it will not be possible to send troops into Afghanistan until next year at the earliest regardless. There is time for deliberation.
Posted by: tierra | November 13, 2009, 10:44 am 10:44 am
The Generals have stated
Posted by: tierra | Nov 13, 2009 10:44:08 AM
Source, please.
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 13, 2009, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
“Obama may decide this month whether to grant a request by his top commander in Afghanistan, General Stanley McChrystal, to increase the U.S. force of 68,000 in Afghanistan by as many as 40,000 personnel NEXT YEAR.”
Bloomberg Press (November 2009)
Posted by: tierra | November 13, 2009, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
in my business when people keep blaming the other people they get fired.
Posted by: daklipper
which is exactly why republicans were voted out of office ‘en masse’ in 2008
Posted by: YO | November 13, 2009, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
“Obama may decide this month whether to grant a request by his top commander in Afghanistan, General Stanley McChrystal, to increase the U.S. force of 68,000 in Afghanistan by as many as 40,000 personnel NEXT YEAR.”
Bloomberg Press (November 2009)
Posted by: tierra | Nov 13, 2009 12:18:35 PM
Your conclusion is erroneous:
The Generals have stated the President has time to deliberate and receive the best council on this issue because it will not be possible to send troops into Afghanistan until next year at the earliest regardless.
1) General, not “the Generals”. You made it sound like a consensus.
2) Nowhere does McChrystal state “the President has time…” That’s your conclusion.
3) Nowhere does McChrystal state “regardless”. I would guess (and it is a guess) that each day’s delay deciding would delay the arrival date of the troops one day. This might not be true. There could be a drop-dead date, too. But we don’t know because it is not explained in your quote.
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 13, 2009, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
I would guess (and it is a guess) that each day’s delay deciding would delay the arrival date of the troops one day. This might not be true.
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Yes, that is the conclusion people (many right wingers) have jumped to and presented as ‘fact’ – regrettably it is not backed up by any such statements from the Generals.
We are told Obama has four options on the table. Gen. Stanley McChrystal’s is the one requesting for another 40,000 troops for Afghanistan – and those troops are requested for next year.
To give you an idea of the logitics of deployment . . . .
General David Petraeus, the overall commander of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, told the same conference that a buildup in Afghanistan would be more difficult than President George W. Bush’s 2007 surge of troops into Iraq because of infrastructure gaps.
“We put 6,000 additional troops into Iraq each of five straight months,” during the 2007 deployment of reinforcements to quell violence in Baghdad, Petraeus said. “That’s an extraordinary logistical accomplishment but we had Kuwait” as a staging area for forces.
Posted by: tierra | November 13, 2009, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Wow! Fellow Americans! we keep finding fault in everything that is done!
Stop it! Acting so bipolarish!!! seek
help! It is not Pres. Obama’s fault!
He agreed to help fix alot of the problems. Can you or will you? I know you just wanna backbite, and cause more chaos.
Please stop. It really ain’t nothing a Republican or a Democrat can do, it is going to take an American a human one at that! Like Pres. Obama. Relax we’re ok! It’s going to take time. I LOVE THE USA!!!
Posted by: Taylor | November 13, 2009, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm