Roundtable: Geithner Isn’t Going Anywhere
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner got roughed up this week by members of Congress who are increasingly impatient about jobs returning to the economy. Republicans and even one Democrat called for his resignation.
As I reported today, a new ABC News/Washington Post poll shows that 30 percent of Americans say someone in their home has lost a job. In February, that number was 18 percent. Numbers like that continue to turn up the heat on Geithner.
But, former Clinton Labor Secretary Robert Reich said on the Roundtable that the Obama Administration is going to stick with Geithner. “Geithner is not going to resign. He’s not going to be forced to resign. He’s not going to be asked to resign. But the pain out there cannot be exaggerated. People are hurting, and they see Wall Street going up, and they see their own jobs in greater and greater jeopardy.”
Walter Isaacson thinks the criticism of Geithner is unfair, “Geithner is getting a bum rap in some extent. I remember a year ago… we were all scared the whole financial system would go over the cliff. We thought foreclosures would wipe out whole, you know, cities. That didn’t happen. They saved us from going off of a cliff, but you end up with this unemployment problem.”
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Your commentators seem to forget that it’s not just about jobs or saving the financial system. It’s about the ethics and moral leadership we expect of our leaders. It’s also about holding accountable those who were involved in creating this crisis in the first place. There are all reasons why Geithner (and others) needs to go. Arguing that the ends justify the means is a slippery slope for other abuses of power. Time and time again the politicians and pundits insult the American public with such faulty arguments in pursuit of their personal agenda. It’s this insult that will continue to fuel “populist” anger (even such label seem to as if the American public is somehow irrational).
Posted by: Leonard | November 22, 2009, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
It is only common sense that the democrats keep him at his job. Being in charge he has exempted himself from paying taxes so the demos go to him and say if you don’t I don’t either. Okay for the goose and gander.
Posted by: Holly | November 22, 2009, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Former NY Governor Eliot Spitzer suggests that Wall Street bonuses will be a flashpoint of the 2010 election (particularly for Independents).
In January record Wall Street bonuses will be announced. When that happens there will be so much populist outrage that Geither will become the scapegoat.
To Walter Isaacson, what Geithner and Bernanke did was not the *only* way. Rather than the banks “earning” their way out of trouble with zero interest rates and the carry trade, the Federal Government could have put them into receivership (wiping the common and subordinated debt) and recapitalized them directly. Even worse, just think how much those Goldman Sachs warrants would be worth *NOW*, which could have been contributed to the Medicare & Social Security Trust Funds. Instead there was a *rush* by Geithner to sell them. Why? ABC News should investigate how much those warrants would have been worth if the Federal Government still owned them.
As Andrew Ross Sorkin observed, yes Geithner may have saved “the World,” but it was the World as he saw it through his eyes. He may have succeeded in preserved the Old Order, but expect the torches and pitchforks to come out in January when the Wall Street bonuses are announced.
Posted by: Mitchell | November 22, 2009, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Geithner’s excuse that he didn’t create the problem is getting very old, not mention that it’s just wrong. He was very much part of the original problem. More importantly, though, he and the Obama regime have done everything wrong since taking over the White House. They have restored profits to Wall Street (including unjustly enriching some of the firms through the bailouts) at great cost to the taxpayer, but have done nothing for Main Street, which is our real engine for economic growth.
What we need to do is focus on providing liquidity to small businesses and eliminating confusion and uncertainty from the business planning process, which is being created by all of Mr. Obama’s wonderful change, such as tax hikes, increased health care costs, and cap and trade. Who can make plans for the future — including increasing staff levels — when you have no idea how you’re going to be rocked by such exogenous factors? Few lay people and academics understand that this is what’s holding the economy back, along with a wasteful and ineffective first stimulus program. Business leaders are going to sit on their hands until they can quantify what’s going on, and that’s not going to happen until confusion is reduced and conditions stabilize. Whether Obama and his team have the right items on their agenda will be decided years in the future, but it is clear now that they are choosing the wrong time to try to execute those items.
Posted by: Pat Fleck | November 22, 2009, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
This is obama’s choice and let him rise or fall with him. Mr. Geitner is a tax evading corrupt man that falls right in line with obama’s view with his hope and change for this country.
Posted by: Tammy | November 22, 2009, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Come January when Wall Street annouces
record bonus Geithner will fall
just like that goat George Clooney
stared down.
Posted by: Cynthia Rapak | November 22, 2009, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
I don’t appreciate the way you totally changed the format, panel and topic of discussion, and just moved on to another area. I am a senior and was really interested in the stimulus program. You had no indication that you were finished with this topic; you just cleared the staged and moved on. It would have been more appropriate to bring some closure, some answers, or questions, and informed us that you were moving on to a new subject.
Posted by: Melvetta | November 22, 2009, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
He should be in jail for tax evasion.
Posted by: wheresmymoney | November 22, 2009, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Geithner won’t go. Wise up he is Obama’s main man that funnels money to Obama’s cronies special interest groups.There are billions of dollars that are missing and no one knows where the money went and the public doesn’t care about it.Obama can get away with what ever he wants. Where are the Jobs? Obama says he is working on it and the news media accepts that answer. End of story.
Posted by: John Demeter | November 22, 2009, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Geithner may not go anywhere but the voters almost certainly will.
Posted by: jan | November 22, 2009, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Geithner was at the NY Fed during the housing bubble ballooning. He was part of the FOMC meetings, and voted for the artificially low interest rates. He is part of the problem. Ron Paul is part of the solution.
Posted by: Huh | November 22, 2009, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
The gop is quick to place the blame on the Obama administration when in fact it is their policies that outsourced American jobs. Too bad we couldn’t just send the republicans overseas to stay!!!!
Posted by: GOP FAILURES | November 22, 2009, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
You people seem to have forgotten that it took the gop 8 years to screw things up this bad. Now you want an instant fix???????????????????
Posted by: bush's follies | November 22, 2009, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
The road is rough but it is not as rough as it could have been. The Obama Administration has probably made a mistake or two….but they were trying….remember the rescue plan that the Bush administration but forth in the closing weeks of his administration. The country is turning the corner…prosperity will return to Main Street.
Posted by: msgijoe | November 22, 2009, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Of course Geithner isn’t going anywhere. He is part of Wall Street, and as Gerald Celente and others have documented Wall Street has the corrupt Senate and Congress in their pockets. WALL STREET RUNS THE U.S.not the citiznery. That is why they get away with the criminality they do and the whole world knows it, except so many dumbed down Americans, that have watched Wall Street sell of their factories, businesses, and future. True or not??
Posted by: Bobby | November 22, 2009, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Bobby – Couldn’t have said it better.
Posted by: Huh | November 22, 2009, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
Since when does the ruling class eat itself? It is only YOU that is on the menu. And that will never “change.”
Posted by: jafo | November 23, 2009, 12:43 am 12:43 am
Gotta love those who think we’ve “turned the corner” on the economy. Fact: County population of 465,000 + barely 1 1/2 pages of jobs ads in the Sunday paper. And you think the economy has “turned the corner”. Think again. You’ve just adopted Bush’s tactics of “everything’s fine because I say its fine”. The rest of us know it isn’t.
Posted by: jan | November 23, 2009, 4:28 am 4:28 am
Wow, the cynical comments above suggest that President Obama’s Administration has FAILED!
Not so much in substance but in style. Not so much in prose but in poetry (quoting Tom Friedman’s 10/30/09 NYT column).
I am likely to be wrong but my guess is that like Luke Skywalker who was torn between the Force and the Power of the Dark Side, Obama is torn between the idealism of Valarie Jarrett and the political ruthlessness of former millionaire investment banker Rahm Emanuel.
PBS talk show host Travis Smiley recently wrote “Accountable: Making America as Good as Its Promise.” One point that he makes is the GREAT PRESIDENTS have to be pushed. Bottom line is that President Obama has *FAILED* in his campaign promise to CHANGE THE WAY WASHINGTON WORKS (which is why *All” the Independents and college kids voted for him–or put another way why he has no coattails and are abandoning him [duh!]).
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For George S., even though healthcare passes, the poisonous partisan environment that it will create is proof that Obama has *utterly* failed in his campaign promise to CHANGE WASHINGTON to become POST-PARTISAN (again, given that naive kumbaya bipartisanship failed, has Obama succumbed to the Dark Side [i.e., raw power] where all that counts is winning?).
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For the sake of America’s future, President Obama to become a GREAT president, he has to get rid of Wall Streeters Rahm Emanuel and Timothy Geithner and start governing with style and prose. Valerie Jareett and David Axelrod, are you listening?
Posted by: Mitchell | November 23, 2009, 5:22 am 5:22 am
Addendum to comments above.
Perhaps on your January 20, 2010 retrospective of the Obama inaugural, it would be interesting to see on your roundtable Ron Brownstein who wrote “The Second Civil War” and Norm Ornstein & Thomas Mann who wrote “The Broken Branch” regarding whether Obama fulfilled his campaign promises?
Question: Is the U.S. political system broken? Should Congress’ chairman-oriented committee system be reformed?
Posted by: Mitchell | November 23, 2009, 5:40 am 5:40 am
Geithner is not going anywhere yet. But, usually Treasury Secretaries don’t last the entire 4-year term, usually 2 to 3 years. He’ll ride it out until the November 2010 mid-terms and then he’ll step aside. I thought it was a mistake for him to take the job in the first place. He was effective and comfortable in the NY Fed, and, yes, he and Bernanke did avert a complete financial system collapse. Geithner’s problems really stem from lack of technical expertise. He doesn’t have a strong enough economic background to reach into the tool box and come up with creative ideas. Bernanke, Summers, Yellen, etc. are stronger technically from an academic point of view. Geithner simply wasn’t ready for the job, and the political environment isn’t stable enough for him to grow in the position. He took it because he believes in public service and was ambitious, but Geithner belongs on Wall Street, where he feels more comfortable, and he needs to be 2nd in command, not 1st. I like Geithner, and I think he’s effective, but not in this job. Treasury, in this environment, needs someone with more gravitas, more technical expertise, and with thicker skin.
Posted by: Laura Brown | November 23, 2009, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Laura Brown, Please, Wall Street is a criminal organization the way it is now set up. Anyone that doesn’t see this, is, in my opinion, plain naive, or totally misinformed about what goes on in Wall Street, how they are connected to Washington, and how politicians regularly allow Wall Street to rob the publics taxes.
Posted by: Bobby | November 23, 2009, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
He should be in jail for tax evasion.
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I agree with it. Tim should be in jail now not in the White House for tax evasion, hiring of illegal nanny, and creating of a huge loophole, which was able to have big bonus parties with bailout money in Wall St.
IN ADDITION TO, Tim Geithner AND OBAMA HAVE TOTALLY FAILED TO CREATE JOBS OF 3,500,000. THE THING AMERICAN DON’T UNDERSTAND IS THIS WHAT OBAMA HAS STILL DEFENDED THE TAXES CHEATER.
Posted by: Tim should be in jail now. | November 25, 2009, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm