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ABC News' Sunlen Miller reports: President Obama will formally sign into law the “Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009,” in the Oval Office this morning. Passed by the House and Senate this week, the law will extend unemployment benefits by 20 weeks in states hardest hit by the economic downturn and by 14 weeks everywhere else. It also extends an $8,000 first-time home buyers tax credit to homes placed under contract by the end of next April. People who have lived in their current house for five years and want to buy a new house will be newly eligible for a $6,500 tax credit, ABC’s Z. Byron Wolf reports. The legislation had an uphill climb, after more than a month-long delay on the Hill. In the afternoon President Obama will make his first visit as president to Walter Reed Medical Center in Washington, D.C. to visit US soldiers receiving care. More from Jake Tapper here . Mr. Obama last visited Walter Reed on Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the eve of his inauguration. After returning to the White House Mr. Obama will sit down with Congressman-Elect Bill Owens in the Oval Office. The Democratic victory in the New York 23rd congressional district on Tuesday was the one of few results of Tuesday’s off-year elections the White House touted, saying they were “heartened” by the results. Owens is the first democrat to win in the region since 1857. The President will also meet with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in the Oval Office. -Sunlen Miller

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Posted by: young_voter | November 6, 2009, 8:37 am 8:37 am
Excellent work Congress! Now that you have helped save all the deadbeats that never should have been allowed to buy a home in the first place, the banks, first-time home buyers, GM, and anyone else you can politicallt think of – you finally get around to thinking about those who could have helped slow this whole thing down: home owners with good credit and enough equity to sell their home, buy another one and fill it up with durable goods.
Now that my home is worth 40% of it’s highest value, you are going to give me a hand. And we want these bozos running health care?
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 6, 2009, 9:18 am 9:18 am
I’m a contractor who will be finishing my contract on 12/31. If I am not working, I do not show up on anyone’s list. I file a Schedule C and am not eligible for unemployment. I am part of The Great Uncounted. There are millions of us out there. I am John Galt not because I chose to be but because the government does not want to know about me.
The real unemployment rate? Not 10.2% – I can tell you that.
Posted by: John Galt | November 6, 2009, 9:21 am 9:21 am
I wonder if he will sit down with the Governors-Elect from Virginia and New Jersey? Naaah.
Posted by: kelli | November 6, 2009, 9:38 am 9:38 am
John Galt–I’m counted with you. I lost 1/2 of my work contracts in 2009 and who knows how much more in the coming months. But I will not be counted on any unemployment lists, either. I think if we were counted (as well as those who are vastly underemployed in their current jobs) unemployment would be closer to 18%.
Posted by: kelli | November 6, 2009, 9:40 am 9:40 am
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 29% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-seven percent (37%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -8. Fifty-five percent (55%) expect Washington politics to become more partisan over the coming year.
Tuesday’s election results confirmed data released earlier showing that 66% of voters are angry at the policies of the federal government and 60% say that neither Republican nor Democratic political leaders have an understanding of what is needed today .
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 6, 2009, 9:41 am 9:41 am
US National Debt: $11.992 trillion & rising
US Spending CYTD: $3.130 trillion & rising
US Budget Deficit: $1.342 trillion & rising
US Private Debt: $16.748 trillion & falling
And the government is giving ‘us’ financial advice?
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 6, 2009, 9:45 am 9:45 am
Latest CNN Opinion Research Poll:
Question 27. As you may know, several health care bills have been passed by committees in the U.S. House and Senate and they can be brought before Congress for debate and a final vote at any time. Which of the following do you think Congress should do:
26% – Continue working on those bills this fall and make relatively minor changes before passing final legislation
33% – Continue working on those bills this fall but pass final legislation only if major changes are made
24% – Start work on entirely new bills that would not be ready until some time next year
15% – Stop working on any bills that would change the country’s health care system
ONLY 26% want to continue working on bills with minor changes…
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 6, 2009, 9:55 am 9:55 am
If I am not working, I do not show up on anyone’s list.
John Galt | Nov 6, 2009 9:21:50 AM
You do not appear to understand how the unemployment number used by the Bureau of Labor Statistics works. It is based upon interviews of a random sample of households that accounts for around 100,000 people. It certainly DOES capture unemployed independent contractors as they are caught by the sample size. The statistical error rate for a sample of this size in the US population is something like +/- 250k people, so those bounds should be considered in the total numbers.
John Galt would have understood the basic maths and well established sampling methods used for this metric. You sound more like the ignorant masses arrogantly sopping off his expertise.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 6, 2009, 10:02 am 10:02 am
From the Bureau of Labor Statistics website:
“This news release presents statistics from two major surveys, the Current Population Survey (household survey)
and the Current Employment Statistics survey (establishment survey). The household survey provides the information on the labor force, employment, and unemployment that appears in the A tables, marked HOUSEHOLD DATA. It is a sample
survey of about 60,000 households conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau for the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).
The establishment survey provides the information on the employment, hours, and earnings of workers on nonfarm
payrolls that appears in the B tables, marked ESTABLISHMENT DATA. This information is collected from payroll
records by BLS in cooperation with state agencies. The sample includes about 160,000 businesses and government
agencies covering approximately 400,000 individual worksites. The active sample includes about one-third of all nonfarm
payroll workers. The sample is drawn from a sampling frame of unemployment insurance tax accounts.”
Posted by: Axey | November 6, 2009, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Concerned,
You are getting in the way of a good narrative. The truth is there are certain parts of the 23rd that have not seen a democratic representative since the Civil War. Nevermind that the district has been redrawn numerous times over the years and we are left with 3 or so counties that fit that narrative.
Posted by: Axey | November 6, 2009, 10:47 am 10:47 am
“Owens is the first democrat to win in the region since 1857.”
That’s not a factually correct statement.
1979 – 1993 the district was represented by a Democrat.
1923 – 1973 the district was represented by a Democrat.”
Concerned in OH | Nov 6, 2009 10:38:52 AM
You are making an erroneous assumption that “the region” is the same as “the district”; it’s not. The district has been redrawn many times. Currently, the majority of the population lives in area that has not had a Democrat representative since 1890 or earlier. Franklin County has had a Whig representative more recently than a Democrat.
The original comment was not fully defined, but it was entirely accurate as far as it went.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 6, 2009, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Unemployment at 10.2%
Stimulus is still working great.
What a fantastic time to pass gov’t run health care.
Lets encourage more illegals to come here for free health care.
Bunch of idiots running the country.
Posted by: millie | November 6, 2009, 11:00 am 11:00 am
What a fantastic time to pass gov’t run health care.
Lets encourage more illegals to come here for free health care.
millie | Nov 6, 2009 11:00:05 AM
Illegals are explicitly banned from receiving health care under the new plan. And yes, all those unemployed probably do think it’s a good time to deal with the problems of the unemployed or independently employed being unable to get insurance with a pre-existing condition and individuals being socked with extremely high premiums. And don’t even try to buy health care with cash – heck, try to even call around and comparision shop the price of a C-section.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 6, 2009, 11:10 am 11:10 am
“jhw, look at the construction of the paragraph. It’s clear that “the region” was referring to “New York 23rd congressional district” stated in the sentence prior.
Owens is not the first Democrat to represent NY 23rd’s region.”
Concerned in OH | Nov 6, 2009 11:14:32 AM
If it was referring explicitly to the district, then it was a matter of very poor work on the writers part; the region is not at all identical to the district.
This is all ultimately a moot point. This was a fluke election for a meaningless seat. There are what, 438 house districts? Next election one will probably elect a Republican for the first time in generations. They’re just digging for headlines, just like the overhyped ‘civil war in the Republican party!!1!11″.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 6, 2009, 11:21 am 11:21 am
Fifty-two percent (52%) of voters feel that America’s best days are in the past, according to the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. This marks the highest level of voter pessimism in two years and is up 13 points from a year ago when Barack Obama was elected president. Thirty-five percent (35%) feel the nation’s best days are still to come, down 13 points since President Obama’s inauguration in January.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 6, 2009, 11:23 am 11:23 am
There’s zero enforcement, zero citizenship verification, nothing.
Concerned in OH | Nov 6, 2009 11:18:29 AM
That is a lie and I invite anyone reading to google up all the factchecks on it they want. The method of citizenship verification is not explicitly defined but the requirement for it is. I suppose you would prefer another 100 pages defining the exact mechanism of enforcement, points of verification (what if they’re unconscious – exactly when do you withhold treatment pending verification for each of the hundreds of different triage situations?), database operating system, etc.
Saying there is nothing in the bill is a blatant lie. Again folks, don’t listen to Concerned here or me – google up some factchecks, run down their cites, and be informed. There is a debate to be had on health care and lies like this one gets in the way of the real issue.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 6, 2009, 11:29 am 11:29 am
And Peas, what I see in those numbers is that 59% want to work with the bills on the table. You realize I’m one who would say I want major changes
Posted by: Alyson | Nov 6, 2009 10:21:01 AM
Wow! I didn’t see THAT one coming! Some of the 33% may want to see major changes like a single payer system to make the bill even worse (or better) than it already is. So I guess the option is vague enough that a pundit could do whatever they want with 33% of the responses. Maybe we should just throw out the 33% and say
26% like the bill with minor changes;
39% want to throw it out and start over or stop working on HC completely
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 6, 2009, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Maybe Obama should pencil in an apology for the insensitive way he addressed the shooting at Fort Hood.
If this is how he tries to reassure a frightened nation he failed miserably.
Bush may have continued reading with kids as he processed what happened on 9/11.
In a matter of minutes Bush was on TV trying to comfort us.
Obama had hours to prepare his remarks.
The man just doesn’t get it.
Posted by: kyle | November 6, 2009, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Explicitly banned, while technically accurate, you know is a complete falsehood. There’s zero enforcement, zero citizenship verification, nothing.
vs.
That is a lie and I invite anyone reading to google up all the factchecks on it they want. The method of citizenship verification is not explicitly defined but the requirement for it is.
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Both of you just said the same thing, but jhw for some reason labels it a lie.
Man, the “lie” thing gets old.
Posted by: MayBee | November 6, 2009, 11:34 am 11:34 am
You sound more like the ignorant masses arrogantly sopping off his expertise.
Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 6, 2009 10:02:20 AM
I don’t even have to take a survey to know I can always count on a personal insult from a liberal.
Didn’t mean to mislead about the “list” – my point being without hard data, this 10.2% unemployment RATE is complete fiction. They have no way of calculating the real rate because they know so many people do not appear in anyones’s statistics. So they use this idiotic “survey” and then publish it like it’s gospel.
BTW: They only survey 60,000 and use the data to report several “statistics.” That’s a lot of “data” (snort) extrapolated from a random sampling of 60,000 out of the whole potential workforce.
Thanks again for the personal insult.
Posted by: John Galt | November 6, 2009, 11:49 am 11:49 am
Illegals are explicitly banned from receiving health care under the new plan.
Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 6, 2009 11:10:18 AM
Liberal talking point #286
They are definitely “banned.” You just can’t ask anyone for proof of citizenship. “Are you a citizen? Yes. Good, sign here please!”
Posted by: Visualize World Peas | November 6, 2009, 11:53 am 11:53 am
Man, the “lie” thing gets old.
MayBee | Nov 6, 2009 11:34:19 AM
It does indeed. I wish people would quit telling lies.
“Explicitly banned, while technically accurate, you know is a complete falsehood. There’s zero enforcement, zero citizenship verification, nothing. ”
Again, I invite anyone who actually cares to form an opinion based on reality to google up some fact checks (note: neither Hannity nor Olberman nor any of their ilk offer ‘fact checks,’ find something with real logic and cites) and decide for themselves.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 6, 2009, 11:53 am 11:53 am
This is all ultimately a moot point. This was a fluke election for a meaningless seat.
Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 6, 2009 11:21:09 AM
The President would disagree. He was “heartened” by the victory and is taking time out to meet with Owens (instead of taking the time to mull over the two wars he is running).
Posted by: Visualize World Peas | November 6, 2009, 11:55 am 11:55 am
Both of you just said the same thing, but jhw for some reason labels it a lie.
Man, the “lie” thing gets old.
Posted by: MayBee | Nov 6, 2009 11:34:19 AM
Depends on what the definition of IS is.
Posted by: Visualize World Peas | November 6, 2009, 11:59 am 11:59 am
Hoyer has already come out and said the vote will be pushed to Sunday or possibly next week. Turns out it was just another Hail Nancy pass.
Posted by: Concerned in OH | Nov 6, 2009 12:28:21 PM
What are they waiting for? All in I say! Let’s get this puppy rolling! 20, no 37, 42 uh, er, million people are uninsured and need help from the Entitlement Kings!
Posted by: Visualize World Peas | November 6, 2009, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
“Which reminds me, did any of you see Jon Stewart imitating Glen Beck last nite.”
It was pretty good.
Though he needs to work on the voice.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 6, 2009, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
Gotta roll…
If I don’t get back here today, have a great weekend y’all. Tomorrow will be interesting.
Posted by: Alyson | Nov 6, 2009 12:07:07 PM
Translation: You all live long, dull and uninteresting lives.
Posted by: Visualize World Peas | November 6, 2009, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
‘They are definitely “banned.” You just can’t ask anyone for proof of citizenship. “Are you a citizen? Yes. Good, sign here please!’
Double check your information source. You are either mistaken or misinformed. Mistaken happens often enough, but you should correct your mistake so that you don’t allow someone else to look ridiculous like you do. Its just common courtesy.
Misinformed is more likely these days, though.
What most likely happened is that your news source, while staying barely technically accurate, led you to believe the false information you cited. If I were you, I’d take whatever ‘news’ sources you use with more than a grain of salt.
Posted by: Flash Override | November 6, 2009, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Robert Reich:
I sincerely hope America gets genuine health reform and I hope it’s stronger than what’s emerging in the Senate. (Whoever voted for Joe Lieberman last time around ought to pray for continued good health.) I worry, though, that Obama’s strategy may turn out to be a mistake comparable to Clinton’s overemphasis on deficit reduction. Obama’s focus on health care rather than jobs, when the economy is still so fragile and unemployment moving toward double digits, could make it appear that the administration has its priorities confused. While affordable health care is critically important to Americans, making a living is more urgent. Yet the administration’s efforts to date on this more basic concern have been neither particularly visible nor coherent.
Robert Reich?
Robert Reich!
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 6, 2009, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
President Obama will formally sign into law the “Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009,” in the Oval Office this morning.
Passed by the House and Senate this week, the law will extend unemployment benefits by 20 weeks in states hardest hit by the economic downturn and by 14 weeks everywhere else. It also extends an $8,000 first-time home buyers tax credit to homes placed under contract by the end of next April.
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Much needed my many. And another tax reduction to help spur the economy.
Posted by: tierra | November 6, 2009, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
And another tax reduction to help spur the economy.
Posted by: tierra | Nov 6, 2009 4:11:25 PM
Excellent work Congress! Now that you have helped save all the liar loan deadbeats, banks, first-time home buyers, GM, and anyone else you can politically think of – you finally get around to thinking about those who could have helped slow this whole thing down: home owners with good credit and enough equity to sell their home, buy another one and fill it up with durable goods.
A little late, my friends, as my home isn’t worth squat. But hey! I’ll be happy to throw in a hundred grand of my own money to move and get that dandy tax credit I’m also paying for!
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 6, 2009, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
“A little late, my friends, as my home isn’t worth squat.”
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Home prices in the United States are up about 6% since Bush left office.
Posted by: tierra | November 6, 2009, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm