White House Prepares for Disappointing Election Day
You can tell that the White House isn't expecting such a great election day — Democrats are down in recent polls in the governor's races in both Virginia and New Jersey — both by how much officials are insisting the outcomes have no relevance to the President and how much they're trying to change focus to the conservative in-fighting in the special election for an upstate New York congressional seat.
A rather odd development came over the weekend in New York's 23rd, where Republican Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava had been pitted against Democrat Bill Owens.
Here's a Scozzafava TV ad:
That ad and others like it are still running on TV in the district, even though in the last couple of days Scozzafava dropped out of the race and endorsed Owens.
Scozzafava dropped out after her candidacy was hobbled irreparably by conservative party candidate Doug Hoffman who has been drawing the support of not only the conservative tea party crowd, but conservative pundits and but Republicans with presidential ambitions such as former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, former Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Penn., and Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty. They say on too many issues, including same sex marriage and the economic stimulus bill, Assemblywoman Scozzafava — the official candidate of the Republican Party in Washington DC — was too liberal.
“I think that what you’re seeing here today is the rebirth of getting the Republican Party back to where we were,” Hoffman recently proclaimed.
“The Republican Party needs to learn something,” talk show host Rush Limbaugh said on Fox News Sunday, “If it goes country club blue-blood moderate, it's going to lose. If it goes Reagan conservative and commits to it, it's going to win landslides.”
On the Sunday circuit, Obama advisers were eager to paint this as a conservative purge, Republicans shrinking their party — and part of a larger problem for the GOP.
Former Obama for America campaign manager David Plouffe slammed those Republican voices for discouraging moderates within the party.
“Sarah Palin, the other Republican candidates who are likely to run, the Limbaughs and Becks of the world are basically hanging a "moderates need not apply" sign outside the republican national committee headquarters,” Plouffe told NBC.
On ABC News' This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Senior White House adviser Valerie Jarrett faulted the GOP for “becoming more and more extreme and more and more marginalized.”
And White House senior adviser David Axelrod said the grass roots conservative movement "may be where the energy is in the Republican Party, but it's certainly not a view on which you can build a majority party.”
President Obama's opponents, however, say this is just one manifestation of voter anger — anger that will mainly hurt incumbent democrats tomorrow and in 2010.
On CNN, House Minority Leader John Boehner characterized it as “a political rebellion going on in America.”
“This rebellion is by people who really have not been actively involved in the political process,” Boehner said.
Limbaugh called it “an eruption waiting to happen at the ballot box.”
This is what President Obama is trying to fight as he campaigns in New Jersey for incumbent Democratic Governor Jon Corzine, whose disapproval rating in the state is 52% — who's locked in a tight fight with Republican nominee Chris Christie, a former US Attorney.
The White House insists that these elections are driven by local issues — property taxes in New Jersey, transporation in Virginia — and the strengths and weaknesses of the actual candidates. They say no one should judge tomorrow's results as relevant at all to President Obama, who enjoys majority approval ratings in both New Jersey and Vigrinia.
On Friday White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said, “Whatever the results are, I don't think they portend a lot in dealing with the future.”
Gibbs pointed out that Democrats won the New Jersey and Virginia governorships in 2001, despite the fact that then-President George W. Bush was at the height of his popularity and Republicans went on to win seats in Congress in 2002.
But not everyone is buying it.
“The president has gone into these races, has raised money for candidates, Democratic campaign committees have raised money. So,to say that these contests are irrelevant is kind of whistling past the graveyard,” Stuart Rothenberg of the Rothenberg Political Report told ABC News.
And there are national trends that no wise White House would ignore: anti-incumbent sentiment, concern if not angst about the economy, a majority of the American people thinking the U.S. is on the wrong track.
Campaigning over the weekend in New Jersey, Obama said, “This is a tough period in the economy and tough in NJ there are a lot of people out there who understandably feel cynical and think change should happen overnight. All of you have to be ambassadors for change.”
The least competitive race, according to polls — the governors race in Virginia where Republican Attorney General Bob McDonnell is expected to shellac Democratic delegate Creigh Deeds tomorrow.
Vice President Biden heads to New York today to campaign for Owens.
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On ABC News’ This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Senior White House adviser Valerie Jarrett faulted the GOP for “becoming more and more extreme and more and more marginalized.”
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If Jarrett, Axelrod, and Plouffe all think running on fiscal responsibility is extreme and should be marginalized, they should be ashamed.
Obama ran on net spending cuts. Obama ran against huge deficits and mounting debts. Imagine that- some voters believed him and now, disappointed, are turning elsewhere.
Posted by: MayBee | November 2, 2009, 9:46 am 9:46 am
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 27% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -13.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 2, 2009, 9:47 am 9:47 am
Joe Biden is heading to NY23 today to see how many votes he can create or save.
Posted by: MadTaxpayer | November 2, 2009, 9:55 am 9:55 am
Obama wants to be seen as a mature, dignified, and serious Commander in Chief.
Then he gets on the campaign trail and talks about mops and Cousin Pookie.
It’s hard to see him as anything other than a traveling snakeoil salesman.
Posted by: ollie | November 2, 2009, 10:03 am 10:03 am
OK Independents.
You put Obama in the White House
You can take him out.
Send him a message tomorrow.
Posted by: luke | November 2, 2009, 10:06 am 10:06 am
“”"Joe Biden is heading to NY23 today to see how many votes he can create or save.”"”"
Posted by: MadTaxpayer
And he can’t count votes the same way as he counts jobs saved or created by the stimulus either!
Posted by: lfrichar | November 2, 2009, 10:15 am 10:15 am
On Friday White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said, “Whatever the results are, I don’t think they portend a lot in dealing with the future.”
Riiight. The “results” will only be a warm up for what’s coming next year.
Posted by: Ronnie Van Zant | November 2, 2009, 10:17 am 10:17 am
Is New Jersey stupid enough to slit their own throats by electing Corzine again–just to help Obama?
Obama talks about cleaning up the mess.
Who will clean up the mess Corzine has created in New Jersey?
Four more years of Corzine?
Insane!
Posted by: hank | November 2, 2009, 10:29 am 10:29 am
I bet ACORN is getting their buses ready.
Our tax money at work.
They will be dragging anything off the street to vote–Democrats of course.
Posted by: kyle | November 2, 2009, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Campaigning all the time for Corzine shows that Mr Obama is a very desperate man.
Posted by: JULIE | November 2, 2009, 10:37 am 10:37 am
The Gallup daily Obama Job Approval has 55% of Americans approving of the job he is doing and 38% disproving. But Gallup doesn’t delete out Democrat responses to get “likely voter” results, so put your faith in Rasmussen.
Or just maybe watch what happens in Novembers, when the only polls that matter to us occur.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 2, 2009, 10:39 am 10:39 am
The MSM and WH staff all breathlessly report everything Limbaugh and Palin say and then say don’t listen to him or her because “he’s just a … ” or “she’s just a …” If so, shouldn’t they just ignore them?
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Funny that so many Democrats have “advice” for the Republican party. Shows how threatened they are by conservatives. They know conservatism is the antidote to liberalism. If they really thought the Repubs will be ruined by conservatism, they would be quiet and let it happen, or try recruiting moderates to their party.
Posted by: Elle | November 2, 2009, 10:45 am 10:45 am
For something the pundits insist is not
a “vote” for Obama, the president is
spending alot of time on it. Only if
the Dems pull this out, will they
frame it as a “vote” for Obama. I too
think the only hope for pulling this
country back to the middle is the
independents. I hope they have the
gonads to do so tomorrow.
Posted by: wis134 | November 2, 2009, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Posted by: wis134 | Nov 2, 2009 10:45:53 AM
Obama also said several months ago in a press conference that he does not respond to the 24-hour news cycle – but of course he does.
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 10:48 am 10:48 am
===Or just maybe watch what happens in Novembers, when the only polls that matter to us occur. ===
Including this November?
Posted by: Axey | November 2, 2009, 10:48 am 10:48 am
Republicans are preparing an alternative health-care bill to Democratic legislation, House Republican Leader John Boehner said.
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 10:51 am 10:51 am
If these races were irrelevant, Obama wouldn’t be campaigning so hard for Corzine and the White House wouldn’t be bribing Scozzafava to endorse Owens. Big mistake on her part, anyway. The Dims are scared and they should be. The “right-wing extremists” finally woke up.
Posted by: DC1 | November 2, 2009, 10:53 am 10:53 am
you’re all correct.
Let’s bring back Bush & Cheney and republican majorities everywhere,
THE COUNTRY WAS DOING SO GOOD!!!!!
EXAMPLE;
Texas Republicans opposed the $787 billion stimulus package, but their districts are getting more than their fair share of emergency funds. Working my way through the detailed data this morning from Recovery.gov, a quick analysis shows that more than $8.6 billion has been awarded to entities in GOP districts. About $4.3 billion is going to Democratic districts. (The Texas delegation includes 20 Republicans and 12 Democrats.)
Posted by: today | November 2, 2009, 10:58 am 10:58 am
i love that fool valerie jarrett’s comment, ‘they r becoming more extreme’ the right is following the 2008 democratic election plan. take the most radical person in ur party n run them, to garner support from the base. ie Obama.
Posted by: sean | November 2, 2009, 11:12 am 11:12 am
you’re all correct.
Let’s bring back Bush & Cheney and republican majorities everywhere,
THE COUNTRY WAS DOING SO GOOD!!!!!
Posted by: today | Nov 2, 2009 10:58:49 AM
Better idea. Let’s elect Barney Frank and Charlie Rangel to the White House! Cause they’re such excellent representatives of the people!
(You do realize we could do this all day and get nowhere…. don’t you?)
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 11:12 am 11:12 am
===Or just maybe watch what happens in Novembers, when the only polls that matter to us occur. ===
Including this November?
Axey | Nov 2, 2009 10:48:41 AM
Yes, although only the NJ governor race is interesting. NY-23 is too insignificant to matter, either to Democrats rejoicing about the discord or Republicans hoping to boost their House caucus position (from 40.8 up to 41.2%… whoo). Governorships (usually) matter heading into a redistricting period, but Virgina’s race is a forgone conclusion – what was shocking was that Obama carried it in 2008.
So yes, NJ is interesting. On the watercooler level, it is also an interesting check on pollsters – who will be closer to the final outcome, Daily Kos’s/Research 2000 who has Corzine losing by 1 point, or Rasmussen who has Corzine losing by 3 points? Doesn’t change the outcome any, but it’s fun to see which houses stick to their historical house effect in calling horse races (Rasmussen is historically 2-3 points Republican house effect, Research 2000 doesn’t have a long enough record to establish but everyone expects a Democratic house effect).
Posted by: jhw539 | November 2, 2009, 11:14 am 11:14 am
Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman, who was embraced by the Republican Party after state Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava dropped out, leads Democrat Bill Owens in a two-way match-up 54 percent to 38 percent with 8 percent undecided, according to a Public Policy Polling survey conducted Oct. 31-Nov. 1.
PPP predicts Hoffman will win a “resounding victory.”
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 2, 2009, 11:14 am 11:14 am
Republicans are preparing an alternative health-care bill to Democratic legislation, House Republican Leader John Boehner said.
Visualize Whirled Peas | Nov 2, 2009 10:51:28 AM
Only two years after they were kicked out of power in Congress, nine months after they lost control of the administration, and seven months after intense Congressional and public debate started, five bills and thousands of pages – Republicans have decided to address health care.
Hopefully this time it’ll be more than a 12 page glossy brochure with no numbers and a picture of a windmill.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 2, 2009, 11:17 am 11:17 am
Rasmussen does not “filter out” Democrats or anyone else. He weights his polls to reflect the national balance of Republicans and Democrats, and he explains in detail how he determines what that balance is. As of today, the balance is as follows:
“In October, 37.8% of American adults considered themselves to be Democrats while 31.9% are Republicans. The number of Democrats has been inching up steadily since July.”
While the last Rasmussen poll I saw for NJ showed Christie up by three, yesterday he declared the race too close to call. Yesterday a PPP poll (I believe) had Christie up seven. I never have much confidence in state polls.
All three of tomorrow’s votes will be significant in terms of the differential between the percentage garnered by the Democratic candidate and that attained by Obama a year ago.
The numbers will be very ugly for Obama and his party in that regard.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 2, 2009, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Yesterday:
“Chris Christie leads Jon Corzine 47-41 in PPP’s final poll of the New Jersey Governor’s race, with Chris Daggett at 11%.
“Corzine had pulled to within a point of Christie on our poll three weeks ago after trailing by as many as 14 points over the summer, but his momentum has stalled since then and Christie’s built his lead back up to 4 points last week and now 6.
“Christie’s advantage is due largely to his support from independents and because he has Republicans more unified around him than the Democrats are around Corzine. Christie leads Corzine 52-29 with indies, as Daggett’s support with that group has declined to 16%. Christie is getting 82% of Republicans to Corzine’s 72% of Democrats.
“As the campaign concludes it seems like Daggett’s presence in the race has actually ended up hurting Corzine more than Christie, contrary to the earlier conventional wisdom. 45% of Daggett voters say the incumbent is their second choice to 36% for the challenger. Daggett’s backers report having voted for Barack Obama by a 67-23 margin last year.”
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 2, 2009, 11:26 am 11:26 am
Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 2, 2009 11:17:08 AM
Thought I would give you a chance to vent.
“Mission Accomplished”
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 11:29 am 11:29 am
“Only two years after they were kicked out of power in Congress, nine months after they lost control of the administration, and seven months after intense Congressional and public debate started, five bills and thousands of pages – Republicans have decided to address health care.”
Actually, over twenty Republican bills have been introduced in this congress; none has been allowed out of committee.
Not introducing healthcare legislation while in the majority may reflect the fact that it was a very low priority for Americans, and it still is. Obama has squandered untold time and energy on this matter while dithering with his chosen field commander’s request for reinforcements for three months. During the course of his seven separate meetings to discuss that request, about which he still has not made a decision, 145 American soldiers have been killed.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 2, 2009, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Rasmussen Reports, November 2:
“House Speaker Nancy Pelosi introduced the House version of health care reform legislation last week, but most voters are still opposed to the effort.
“The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 42% now favor the health care plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. That’s down from 45% a week ago but unchanged from two weeks ago.
“Fifty-four percent (54%) now oppose the legislative effort, up three points since last week.
“Only 23% of all voters Strongly Support the plan while nearly twice as man (44%) are Strongly Opposed.”
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 2, 2009, 11:34 am 11:34 am
Obama, Pelosi, & Reid = Republican voter turnout.
Posted by: Jeff | November 2, 2009, 11:42 am 11:42 am
===Actually, over twenty Republican bills have been introduced in this congress; none has been allowed out of committee.===
And numerous amendments to the proposed legislation. But that gets in the way of the narrative, so it’s hush-hush between us, okay?
Posted by: Axey | November 2, 2009, 11:48 am 11:48 am
===Actually, over twenty Republican bills have been introduced in this congress; none has been allowed out of committee.===
And numerous amendments to the proposed legislation. But that gets in the way of the narrative, so it’s hush-hush between us, okay?
Posted by: Axey | Nov 2, 2009 11:48:11 AM
Prepare for a barrage of incoming liberal talking points
in 3, 2, 1 …
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Does anyone in their right mind really believe that Conservatives should take advice from David Plouffe, Valerie Jarrett or David Axelrod ? All three are left-Wing Radicals.
Sure, they want to help the Republican Party. Truth is –by their own voting records, the Fifty most Liberal Democrats in the U,S, Senate are all Democrats. And, in his very short stint in the U.S. Senate Obama had THE MOST LIBERAL voting record ( #1) in the Senate. Our Country is not LIBERAL–but give Dems credit for defining Republicans—that however is the Republican Party’s job. Now they should practice what they preach to bring the party back!.
Name one Conservative Democrat. We went Liberal and cost us all the Conservative votes. If Republicans do the right thing you can kiss Obama good -bye!
Former Obama for America campaign manager David Plouffe slammed those Republican voices for discouraging moderates within the party.
On ABC News’ This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Senior White House adviser Valerie Jarrett faulted the GOP for “becoming more and more extreme and more and more marginalized.”
And White House senior adviser David Axelrod said the grass roots conservative movement “may be where the energy is in the Republican Party, but it’s certainly not a view on which you can build a majority party.”
Posted by: Conservative and Proud of it | November 2, 2009, 11:56 am 11:56 am
You can bet that if the Dems loose these elections that they will blame the weather or Bush. Seems to me that if the Repubs win the Governor races that the message will be clear. I just don’t know that that message is but I’m pretty sure the Dems won’t be happy about it.
Posted by: Humphster | November 2, 2009, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
And numerous amendments to the proposed legislation. But that gets in the way of the narrative, so it’s hush-hush between us, okay?
Axey | Nov 2, 2009 11:48:11 AM
Like the REPUBLICAN amendment to the stimulus bill that cost $70 BILLION dollars – almost 10% of the total – and that WAS INCLUDED IN THE FINAL BILL? (The AMT patch, which pulled money from the Democrat’s favorite state aid pot.)
Yeah, but that would get in the way of the narrative indeed.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 2, 2009, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Prepare for a barrage of incoming liberal talking points
in 3, 2, 1 …
Visualize Whirled Peas | Nov 2, 2009 11:52:27 AM
Reality really does tend to annoy the Right, particularly when it is documented, easily verified, and makes them look untrustworthy.
“Not introducing healthcare legislation while in the majority may reflect the fact that it was a very low priority for Americans, and it still is.”
Fascist Hyena | Nov 2, 2009 11:30:12 AM
Good luck with that line in 2012. I wonder how all those unemployed are liking their taste of not having employer healthcare? I wonder how nice the package they get at the new job will be?
Posted by: jhw539 | November 2, 2009, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Democrats are afraid, and the media does not get it. There is change going on in this country, Not the change that Obama said, Not the rise of Left thinking Ideas , Not the rise of a want for more spending, not the rise of a want for more Government control, But a rise of Conservative Values, The media wants you to think we are destroying ourselves and that is not the case at all we are taking back control of the Republican party and taking it back to the Conservative values that made it so great under President Reagan. We will no longer tolerate Republicans in name only like Scozzafava. We want real Republicans who support and respect the Conservative values the Republican party had previously supported. I refer you to a Quote by President Reagan “Our people look for a cause to believe in. Is it a third party we need, or is it a new and revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors, which make it unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people?” This is what the the Republican Party needs to do today, and until we do we will not be able to stop the irresponsible spending and Ideals of the Left and its current leadership.
Posted by: nobama12 | November 2, 2009, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Siena today:
On the eve of Election Day, Conservative Doug Hoffman has opened up a five point lead over Democrat Bill Owens in the race for the 23rd Congressional District. Republican Assembly member Dede Scozzafava still gets six percent support, but since her decision to suspend her campaign and support Owens, the number of undecided voters has doubled from nine percent to 18 percent, according to a new Siena (College) Research Institute poll of likely voters.
”Hoffman continues to demonstrate momentum, picking up six points since Scozzafava pulled out,” said Siena pollster Steven Greenberg. “It appears, however, that the majority of Scozzafava’s supporters have gone to neither Hoffman nor Owens, but rather into the undecided column, which has doubled since Scozzafava ended her candidacy.”
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 2, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Like the REPUBLICAN amendment to the stimulus bill that cost $70 BILLION dollars – almost 10% of the total – and that WAS INCLUDED IN THE FINAL BILL?
Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 2, 2009 12:09:00 PM
Actually I would have listed the Democrats on the Senate Finance Committee defeating Republican efforts in September to strengthen provisions aimed at restricting federal funding for abortions and denying government benefits to illegal immigrants.
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
Wednesday AM WH mantra: “Move along
folks….nothing to see here!”…..
should really be: “Cleanup on aisle 6!”
Posted by: grizzlybare | November 2, 2009, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Rep. Phil Gingrey, M.D. (R-GA) offered an amendment in the Energy & Commerce Committee to bar federal political appointees and bureaucrats from intervening in patient treatment decisions. The Gingrey amendment would have ensured patients and doctors remain as the sole individuals responsible for making these critical decisions. Chairman Henry Waxman (D-CA) led Democrats in opposition to the amendment, which was defeated.
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Establish a $1 trillion deficit cap. During Energy & Commerce Committee consideration of the Democrats’ government-run health care plan, Rep. Lee Terry (R-NE) offered an amendment to delay “disease prevention” spending for items like municipal jungle gyms and bicycle trails until Washington’s budget deficit dips below $1 trillion. Democrats defeated the amendment
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Rep. Wally Herger (R-CA) offered an amendment to prohibit the federal government from conducting so-called comparative effectiveness research, in which the federal government would ultimately help determine which medical treatments are administered to whom in America – otherwise known as government rationing of health care. The Herger amendment was defeated.
Days later, in a July 22 prime-time press conference, President Obama told the nation the health care bill “will keep government out of health care decisions,” despite the fact that the comparative effectiveness language remains in the bill.
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
Very gratifying to see that the American people have voted with their dollars in favor of the lone privately-owned auto company while rejecting the Obama-run companies out of hand.
Kinda makes a fella feel smug.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 2, 2009, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
Create small business health plans. Rep. Howard P. “Buck” McKeon (R-CA) offered an amendment that would modify the bill to allow the creation of small business health plans (also known as Association Health Plans) that allow trade, industry, professional, or other business associations to form and purchase health care coverage at a lower cost. The McKeon amendment was killed in committee.
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Prevent taxpayer-funded health benefits from going to illegal immigrants. Rep. Dean Heller (R-NV) offered an amendment that would increase safeguards to ensure taxpayer-funded benefits do not go to individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States. This amendment, too, was killed.
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Prevent taxpayer funding of abortion. Reps. Sam Johnson (R-TX), Eric Cantor (R-VA) and Mark Souder (R-IN) offered amendments to remove language from the legislation that would result in American taxpayers subsidizing abortion-on-demand. A recent Zogby survey determined that more than 70 percent of Americans are opposed to taxpayer funding of abortion. The amendment did not pass
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Require the government-run plan to operate under the same rules as private health plans. Rep. Boustany offered an amendment to improve the Democratic legislation by requiring that the government-run plan established in the bill maintain reserves and other margins in amounts consistent with the standards that apply to private plans. Reserves would have to come from premiums, not federal subsidies. This amendment was not passed
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Are we imagining future where unemployed people get free “public option” health care?
Posted by: MayBee | November 2, 2009, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Specify that Congress should read the health care bill before voting on it. Rep. Kevin Brady (R-TX) offered an amendment expressing the sense of Congress that Members of Congress should read the health care bill before they vote on it. More than 80 House Republicans have signed a pledge vowing they will not vote to enact a health care bill they have not read and which has not been posted online publicly for at least 72 hours. The Brady amendment was defeated in committee
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Allow Americans to continue to enroll in private individual market health plans. Rep. Dave Reichert (R-WA) offered an amendment to repeal the bill’s prohibition on new enrollees in private individual market plans. This amendment was killed
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Rep. Dave Camp (R-MI) offered an amendment to improve the bill by specifying that the new taxes that would be imposed on Americans under the bill could not take effect unless the fraud rate in Medicare is reduced to below 1 percent of the amount of taxpayer money spent on the program. The Camp amendment was killed in committee
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
The Republicans have tried to include dozens of “common-sense” amendments. I’m not saying they necessarily deserve to be heard at this point. But if the Democrats were truly interested in a bipartisan bill that would be best for the American taxpayer, they would be responding with something other than:
No, no, no, no, no, no, no…
In spite of their wonderful rhetoric, the Democrats are NOT concern with the welfare of the American taxpayer. They are concerned only with themselves and consolidating their political power.
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Quinnipiac:
“In the see-saw New Jersey Governor’s race, Republican challenger Christopher Christie has 42 percent to Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine’s 40 points, with 12 percent for independent candidate Christopher Daggett, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today. Six percent remain undecided.
“This compares to a 43 – 38 percent Gov. Corzine lead, with 13 percent for Daggett, in an October 28 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University.
“Among Daggett supporters, 38 percent say they might change their mind: 39 percent say Corzine is their second choice, while 29 percent say Christie is number two.”
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 2, 2009, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
“In spite of their wonderful rhetoric, the Democrats are NOT concern with the welfare of the American taxpayer. They are concerned only with themselves and consolidating their political power.”
____________________________________
What a vacant accusation. Those evil Democrats.
Your nonsense is showing again.
Posted by: tierra | November 2, 2009, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
Wall Street, DC strikes again
Posted by: All Mi T | November 2, 2009, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
The Republicans, by emphasizing the most extreme and polarized of their members, are thankfully cutting their noses to spite their faces.
Meanwhile, across the significant domains of health care, the economy (the largest gains in the S and P since the Great Depression), and America’s role in the world, Obama intelligently, thoughtfully, and without Flight Suit Grandiosity, makes the changes the nation needs.
Look at every area–if you go to the 24/7 Daily Obama News Site, the LT, you can see the gains in every area–each day:
Posted by: Cara | November 2, 2009, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
I thought Obama loved change. But when his fellow Democrats kill their states’ economies with high taxes, people will vote for change. This should be a clue to Obama: he did not get elected because we wanted him to “fundamentally transform” our country. He got elected because people were sick of Bush. He has no mandate for what he’s doing, on the wrong side of polls on almost every issue — and he’ll be voted out in 2012 if he doesn’t start tamping down his regulate/tax mentality. But he’s too arrogant to think his approach could possibly be wrong; if we can’t understand that he’s right, we must just be stupid. I can’t wait until we get our country back. Congrats to the people of Virginia and New Jersey, who will be getting their states back tomorrow.
Posted by: Dave | November 2, 2009, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
The fact that Obama continues to peddle the “Change You Can Believe In” schtick in NJ, while supporting Corzine is kind of a cruel joke to people who actually LIVE in NJ and have seen things go from bad to worse in that state while Corzine has been in office.
If the WH really believes that none of these races are “…relevant at all to President Obama” then why has he spent so much time campaigning and raising money for Corzine and Deeds? These elections are a referendum not only on the incumbent, but in the direction Obama and the Democrats are taking this country. They are witnessing the effects first hand and have been for years with Democrat governors.
Scozzafava is no more a Republican than Arlen Specter is, errr was.
Posted by: Mike in Costa Mesa | November 2, 2009, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
==On ABC News’ This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Senior White House adviser Valerie Jarrett faulted the GOP for “becoming more and more extreme and more and more marginalized.”==
I vote partisan. I am partisan. I am not a wussy moderate who compromises his values away. Moderates have no position on anything. Vote Conservative, and to correct what went wrong last November!
Posted by: Mr. Incredible | November 2, 2009, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
“In spite of their wonderful rhetoric, the Democrats are NOT concern with the welfare of the American taxpayer. They are concerned only with themselves and consolidating their political power.”
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What a vacant accusation. Those evil Democrats.
Your nonsense is showing again.
Posted by: tierra | Nov 2, 2009 1:17:48 PM
Try responding to why the Democrats shot down all those amendments I posted (which was only part of a long list). If it was such a vacant accusation there should be some logical reason why they were all killed. I’ll stand by my statement until proven otherwise.
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Reminds me of Boehner whining about having to read a bill. (Uh, senator?? That’s your job!!)
Posted by: Alyson | Nov 2, 2009 2:05:07 PM
I agree! But it’s not just Republicans…
Sen. Thomas Carper (D.-Del.), a member of the Senate Finance Committee, told CNSNews.com that he does not “expect” to read the actual legislative language of the committee’s health care bill because it is “confusing” and that anyone who claims they are going to read it and understand it is fooling people.
“I don’t expect to actually read the legislative language because reading the legislative language is among the more confusing things I’ve ever read in my life,” Carper told CNSNews.com.
Carper described the type of language the actual text of the bill would finally be drafted in as “arcane,” “confusing,” “hard stuff to understand,” and “incomprehensible.” He likened it to the “gibberish” used in credit card disclosure forms.
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
I vote partisan. I am partisan. I am not a wussy moderate who compromises his values away. Moderates have no position on anything.
Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Nov 2, 2009 4:05:27 PM
It’s a lot like voting “present.”
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | November 2, 2009, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
FDU:
“Fairleigh Dickinson University’s PublicMind poll today shows Gov. Jon Corzine at 43%, Republican Chris Christie at 41% and independent Chris Daggett at 8%.
“Corzine’s slight lead over Christie is within the poll’s margin of error of plus or minus 3%. ”
Seems they’re all over the lot. Only state poll I’ve ever paid much attention to is Field in California.
In all three races, keep your eye on the spread between what Obama got a year ago and what the Dem gets tomorrow.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | November 2, 2009, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
If Democrats, liberals, and their talking heads are advocating one position (in this case Republicans following a strategy of “inclusiveness”, “big-tent”, “moderation”, etc.) Republicans would be best served to do the exact OPPOSITE (which is why Axelrod, Jarrett, et. al are all spun up).
Elected Republicans are taking notice of the changing dynamics of public sentiment towards expanded government and the self-serving political class and are reacting accordingly. Obama will not change course (as Clinton did with his “triangulation” strategy), but I bet some Blue Dogs will….and soon.
Posted by: tjp612 | November 2, 2009, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
“The White House insists that these elections are driven by local issues — property taxes in New Jersey, transporation in Virginia” Nice try BO, but you are dead wrong. I and a few million of my friends are going to vote tomorrow in Virginia. Our votes will be about bringing back our state and ,ultimately, our country to common sense, morally correct, conservative values.
Posted by: Curly Howard from VA | November 2, 2009, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
“Seems they’re all over the lot. Only state poll I’ve ever paid much attention to is Field in California.”
The Field poll is a good one but even they have problems with 3 way elections (see Gov election during recall).
The majority of the NJ polls have it 2 pts either way (for Corzine or Christie) which is within the margin of error and reflects what is a very close race.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 2, 2009, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
I am a long time dem. I care about the election in the 3 states because I am sick and scared by the non-transparency and big spending of the WH AND OUR GOVERNMENT.
It needs to be stopped for the sake of our nation. I claim myself an Independent departing from the DEM Party.
Posted by: talk from sf | November 2, 2009, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
With ACORN and SEIU working the election along with Rep. Andrews and thousands of union workers, no doubt there will be no corruption in the outcome….ACORN can also help with your taxes and help you find funds to open a bordelo. It’s your one stop shopping……Who would have ever thought we would come so far….
Posted by: bailedout | November 2, 2009, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Boo hoo hoo, crybaby Obama. You’ve lost at least 20 points in your first year.
Posted by: Paulie | November 2, 2009, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
The Republican party is Nuts.
That’s all Folks.
Posted by: Suzi | November 2, 2009, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
The Republican party is a fear monger
group. Then they dare call themselves Christians. Why all the
fear mongering hate Republicans if you really
believe in God, why do you behave in such a horrible way. We are tired of your
fear mongering ways.
Do not use God as your deeds to your
evil stupidity.
Posted by: Suzi | November 2, 2009, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Oh, I wouldn’t worry little Democrats, I hear ACORN has been very busy “helping” your party out. Cheaters do not always win, however. We’ll see.
Posted by: eveh | November 2, 2009, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
Thank you Suzi.Your tricycle is now fixed and you can go home.Besides, he is not our “deeds” he is your Deeds-and he is going to get creamed with both of his running mates.
Posted by: Nephron | November 2, 2009, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Cry me a River Republican party.
You are damaged goods and hopefully
will not return to the White House
ever. It is just to much for your party
to handle. They like to lie to much
and spend way to much money on big
government, then blame it on Obama for
the mess that your party has created.
Your party is in shambles and now they
are trying to put themselves together.
Good luck with that one. Never, Never
will you ever put your party together
it is in shambles.
Cry me a river!!
Posted by: Suzi | November 3, 2009, 1:09 am 1:09 am
In New Jersey, you can fuhgeddaboudit. ACORN, Barack Obama’s political launch vehicle, will manufacture enough crooked votes from fraudulent voter registrations to seal the deal for Corzine. The Democrats running the election commission in NJ will not raise a finger. And US AG Holder will not lose much sleep over it either.
ObamACORN election fraud?? Yes We Can!
Posted by: Election Czar | November 3, 2009, 8:48 am 8:48 am
“You are damaged goods and hopefully
will not return to the White House
ever.”
LOL. Same thing they said during the Carter years.
Posted by: Jenn | November 3, 2009, 10:10 am 10:10 am
Liberals want to jump off a bridge. Conservatives believe that is a bad idea. Moderates suggest we jump half way off.
If something is a bad idea, less of it is merely less bad.
Posted by: Chuckie | November 3, 2009, 10:20 am 10:20 am
ACORN … OH MY!
The Republican wingnuts and moonbat crazies are always crying voter fraud. Grow up. The last major case of voting fraud was up in New Hampshire I recall and Republicans were the ones guilty (phone bank jamming).
ACORN SMAYCORN … get a life Republicans. I doubt ACORN could find Oswego or Watertown with a map if they wanted to.
Posted by: Rich Flatts | November 3, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
How many made up election fraud stories are we going to hear from the Republicans today? Whats the over under. Nobody does made up bs and faked outrage like the Republican wingnuts.
Posted by: Rich Flatts | November 3, 2009, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
The Republican party is coming apart
at the seams. They don’t even know
what they want. Now they are fighting
with each other about who is conservative and who is moderate. This is just so
crazy, but what can I say about this
party. They all want to sit around and
blame Obama for everything.
They are not all there I will tell you that much. I guess for eight years Bush
was a ghost oh my goodness Obama came
and he just happened by some mysterious way to do all this damage.
Republicans you are crazy!!!
Posted by: Suzi | November 3, 2009, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm