White House Study Looks at Job Creation in Illinois if Gitmo Prisoners Transferred There

But the prison only houses 200-400 prisoners. Why would there be more employees than prisoners? We in Illinois would be better off creating tax incentives for businesses to stay in Illinois to keep and create jobs. Why is Boeing creating jobs in SC when I think their HQ is in Chicago?

wheresmymoney – Read my mind.

lets see????????? 60,000 fake jobs, $721,000 stolen to raise pay in Ga. $800 to make 8 pairs of boots in Ky.. Hmmm Yep we believe ya Obama. The stimulus and deputy dawg biden are doing a great job (snickers)
How about that skit on SNL last night making Obama look like a fool.. toooooooo funny
Even funnier… OBama and Eric Holder: If the 911 plotters are found not guilty we will still hold them …Hipprocisy at its best coming out of the radicalized left wing
Sometimes you can’t tell the left wing from the jihadist

…Hipprocisy at its best
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Huh?

This is a joke this Adinistration is the worse ever they *Lie-Cheat-Decive and never tell the truth Obama has created nothing but poverty and hate just what this socialist wants

I forgot Marxist and Communist -My pet rock has more brains than this jerk

There are more guards than prisoners because 1) the prisoners are high-risk (suspected terrorists) and 2) unlike prisoners, guards don’t spend 24/7 in the facility. It’s called a shift.

I’ll I can say is lol.
This is like some comedy sketch or something.

This is a joke this Adinistration is the worse ever they *Lie-Cheat-Decive and never tell the truth Obama has created nothing but poverty and hate just what this socialist wants
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More fear mongering . .. you should check out the Anti-Defamation League’s recent report on fear mongering from the extremist right wing.
Who exactly is creating the hate . . . you with your hateful words?
And poverty . . . who was in office when the economy collapsed? Who missed the economic collapse coming? And you are foolish enough to blame this on the current President . . .

What kind of scumbag commits global-warming scientific fraud? This kind:
“In one email, the head of Britain’s Climatic Research Unit, Phil Jones, says he is ”cheered” by news of the sudden death of a prominent Australian climate sceptic, John L. Daly, who died of a heart attack at his Launceston home in 2004.”

“You can read the report HERE.”
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No we can’t.

Gallup today: Obama approval 48% (adults).
Rasmussen today: Obama approval 48% (likely voters).
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Cheer up Fascist. President Reagan’s approval fell BELOW 40% during his first term – and he went on to re-election.
p.s. – you’re repeating your propaganda spams again . .. .

Hey yeah, let’s round-up all the murdering terrorists around the world, and bring them into our country to help stimulate our economy! Man, Obama is a genius!

only obama would brag about creating more low paying dead end UNION govt jobs with no future nor job satisfaction. unreal

This does not CREATE jobs. You only create jobs when the taxpayers aren’t paying for them, idiots!

Create over 3,000 jobs eh? Compare that to any other Federal prison; which runs with no more than 400 employee’s. So where are the other 2,600 + jobs and where do I apply?

JOB CREATION= GITMO PRISONERS IN ILLINOISE THOUGHT I HAVE HEARD EVERYTHING UNTILL THIS ONE.
lets see now ,how many are out of work and can apply for job what a joke or are our leaders that dumb.

So, Obama’s new “jobs created or saved’ plan is now going to have more than 3000 guards at a cost of a billion, for how many “detainees”?
They only want jobs if they are government, union jobs and that is a fact.
Leave them in gitmo and stop wasting taxpayer cash.
Unlike Chicago cash, it does not grow on trees like Acorns for the rest of us….

it is definately big business and super stores such as wallmart and the chinese imports that are costing us all the jobs,and financially destroying our economy——would like to hear someone deny these facts.

tierra
american made products——where—-wallmart has systematically put american manufactures out of business.
as for the economy they contribute very little—get a job in wallmart and you are automaticly eligable for food stamps,

“it is definately big business and super stores such as wallmart and the chinese imports that are costing us all the jobs,and financially destroying our economy——would like to hear someone deny these facts.”
That’s hysterical.
If Americans wouldn’t buy them, Walmart would not bring them in.
Blame Americans. Blame those who buy products from those stores.
Missed Econ 101, did you?

Dr. Tim Ball:
“Global Warming is often called a hoax. I disagree because a hoax has a humorous intent to puncture pomposity. In science, such as with the Piltdown Man hoax, it was done to expose those with fervent but blind belief. The argument that global warming is due to humans, known as the anthropogenic global warming theory (AGW) is a deliberate fraud. I can now make that statement without fear of contradiction…”
I know that this news will be received most joyfully by those who were most fearful for our beloved planet–I know that Al Gore will be very particularly relieved. He certainly wouldn’t let his own financial self-interest interfere with his sound judgment about science, would he? Nah–the man’s got way too much integrity for that.

Sam Walton’s “lack of marketing imagination” must explain why the man is such a hopeless failure. His poor company never had a chance with a fool like that in charge.

If Americans wouldn’t buy them, Walmart would not bring them in.
Blame Americans. Blame those who buy products from those stores.
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It is completely possible to put the blame in both places . ..
For instance, Walmart could choose to specially market an “American-made” section. They just haven’t done it yet . . . maybe it’s coming soon.
Their lack of marketing imagination and dedication to American workers does not mean they aren’t culpable.
Sam Walton’s great marketing imagination has made China rich and America poor – thanks Sam. Are you rich enough yet Sam?
Sam Walton and George Bush – selling America to China piece by piece.

Just imagine if during his campaign Obama told America that one of his major stimulus plans for Illinois involved the creation of prison jobs related to keeping Gitmo detainees in that state. Do you think that would have helped him get elected?
So how’s that Hope and Change working for you?

RCP:
“For the first time, Barack Obama fell below 50 percent in the Gallup tracking poll.
“Obama’s decline comes at an historic pace. It ranks in the lower third of modern American presidents.
“The fall below 50 is a fraught milestone for any president. In legislative terms, a president is only as powerful as he is popular. Public approval rating is the metric of that popularity.
“Below 50, a president can no longer claim the majority’s support. His political arsenal depletes. A president’s political opposition has powerful, though nebulous, new ammunition.”

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | Nov 22, 2009 9:12:31 PM
President Reagan’s approval ratings fell BELOW 40% during his first term – and yet Reagan was re-elected to a second term.
So, with Reagan’s numbers being lower than Obama’s (and both dealing with a severe economic crisis), we can expect these kinds of things to happen.

“Nothing in the (bundle of emails) package appears to overturn the general idea — arrived at via many lines of evidence — that the CO2 humans have been pumping into the atmosphere is warming the planet, NOR DOES ANYTHING bolster the notion some put forward of a hoax on the part of climate scientists.
“The irony: Since the international community first took up the climate issue in a serious way in 1992, the focus of attention has been on the atmospheric effects of pumping long-sequestered carbon into the atmosphere through burning fossil fuels. But that CO2 also is working its way into the oceans, making them more acidic — something that raises its own set of serious challenges.”
Source: Christian Science Monitor

The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) Council 31 representing some 100,000 active and retired public-service workers across Illinois, including the 13,000 frontline employees of the Illinois Department of Corrections is OPPOSED to Thompson becoming a Federal Prison.

“Nurturing doubt about climate-change science has become big business for public-relations companies and lobbyists. Between 2000 and 2003, ExxonMobil alone gave more than $8.6-million (U.S.) to think tanks, consumer groups and policy organizations engaged in anti-Kyoto messaging, according to the company’s own records.”
Posted by: tierra | Nov 22, 2009 9:39:55 PM
tierra, you did not write this did you. Shouldn’t you attribute these words to their original author? I found it by googling.

“Nurturing doubt about climate-change science has become big business for public-relations companies and lobbyists. Between 2000 and 2003, ExxonMobil alone gave more than $8.6-million (U.S.) to think tanks, consumer groups and policy organizations engaged in anti-Kyoto messaging, according to the company’s own records.”
Posted by: tierra | Nov 22, 2009 9:39:55 PM
tierra, you did not write this did you. Shouldn’t you attribute these words to their original author? I found it by googling.
I did credit it!

I did credit it!
Posted by: tierra | Nov 22, 2009 10:13:53 PM
So you’re telling me you wrote that whole paragraph all by yourself and it wasn’t previously written by someone else on another site? Perhaps a Charles Montgomery site?

Not much point in discussing AGW “science” or “consensus” anymore. As a basis for supporting political decisions aimed at interfering with our lives, it’s over. I’m talking over. Finished: you will enact no such legislation in this country, and no ridiculous treaty will be signed.
The fraud has been exposed; the momentum is gone; we have won and you have lost.
I retire on yet another night with a very smug sense of great satisfaction: Gallup 48%, AGW dead as Julius Caeser. ‘Night, stupes.

I did credit it!
Posted by: tierra | Nov 22, 2009 10:13:53 PM
BTW: I noticed you removed “south of the border” from that paragraph. Any reason why you did that?

Join me in celebrating the news that the earth is not, after all, in danger.
Fascist Hyena | Nov 22, 2009 9:15:53 PM
Except there was NOTHING in those emails that indicates falsified data, just a hack exaggerating a graph. If there is falsified data, please share exactly what set; science is done on the data, power point is done with graphs. Guess which one really matters. Get back to me when you identify fraud in, for example, all the ice core atmospheric samples or the falsification of the 10,000+ repeatable lab tests proving CO2 is a greenhouse gas (even the ones done in high school classes are rigorous enough). Thanks.

Hey! Who’s up for reciting the American’s Creed!?
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Sure! Are you saluting? Do you have your pants up?

You’re going to compare that slip
Posted by: tierra | Nov 22, 2009 10:36:53 PM
Slip ;-)

Oh why not? This administration needs the space to house their political prisoners. More jobs than inmates; makes perfect sense for government work. Get real! Tax funded jobs do nothing to assure real numbers for the GDP. It’s like believing in a perpetual motion machine that will solve our energy needs. The stimulus did nothing more than corrupt the economic indicators to look good for the administration. Take out the deception then the lies are even more clear. Surely someone taught him that “You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.” This administration’s smoke and mirrors is beginning to fall apart. The puppeteers are doing their best to keep the show going.

Posted by: TX_MBell | Nov 22, 2009 10:43:37 PM
You would have preferred the police, firefighters, teachers and health workers across the country lost their jobs as the state and local budgets crashed and burned? You like anarchy in the streets?
You would have preferred people lose their unemployment benefits and head out into the streets?
You would have preferred people not get the $288 Billion in tax relief?

Maybe we should sing Oh Canada! instead.
Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | Nov 22, 2009 10:41:11 PM
What an inspiring national anthem! Does anyone know if there is a pledge that goes along with it, like our Pledge of Allegiance? Anyone?

According to recovery dot gov, the stimulus bill would save/create an estimated 77,000 jobs in Arizona.
“Arizonans have been told for months now that the state jobless rate is hovering in the low 9 percent range.
“But it turns out that’s pretty much only half the story – literally.
“New federal figures show Arizona’s real unemployment situation is already in double digits – 17.2 percent – when also accounting for people who are “underemployed” because they can’t find full-time work and discouraged Arizonans who have given up their job search.” – Capital Media Services, 10/27/09

The more you earn, the less you keep,
And now I lay me down to sleep.
I pray the Lord my soul to take,
If the tax-collector hasn’t got it before I wake.
~Ogden Nash

Moving POWs onto American soil isn’t primarily a question of ‘how many jobs will be created?’
It’s a question of national security.
The Obama team either doesn’t get it, or doesn’t care.

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money” – M. Thatcher

Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | Nov 22, 2009 11:12:24 PM
It’s good to see you’re waking up to the fact there’s been a major economic breakdown.
It took effect throughout 2008 and got worse as the year progressed. By the time President Bush left office, the economy was shedding hundreds of thousands of jobs per month, the stock market had crashed, and foreclosures and bankruptcies were skyrocketing.
This economic breakdown was global in nature and all western industrial nations have have major consequences, including the United States.
There was just a meeting of the G20 held to consider further steps to attempt to rescue the world economies from the disaster.
Every western industrialized country has instituted stimulus plans, tax cuts and deficit funding – and nobody is out of the mire yet.

To save a couple hundred million dollars needed in the trial of several terrorists in NY city, it would be much cheaper to conduct a military trial or civil trial in a small town where lawyers and other service are much cheaper. Remember this nation is broke with one of six people out of job.

Mr. Obama is said to say that he will make the decision on troops request on Alfhanistan after Thanksgiving. It looks like golf and turkey before the “war of necessity”.
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If I’m not mistaken he’s actually given his military people time to prepare their concepts and plans of an exit strategy, and end game – so our troops aren’t mired in Afghanistan for decades with no success in sight.
That you would see this as ‘turkey and golf’ speaks more to your own disrespect of the role of the troops than anything else.

jhw539 – The internet, Hoover dam, Interstate highways, teachers, and public Universities actually have a return on investment. Unless you know of the prison providing a service that makes it cost-neutral it is a burden upon the taxpayers.
Posted by: TX_MBell | Nov 23, 2009 12:31:17 AM
I would imagine prisons have the same kind of return police have to the taxpayer . .. they work to protect the public from crime and criminals.

Police, Fire, Prisons, Judicial, Military, and Public Service employees are the primary reason we have taxes. And I solute them for their valiant service. These services are accepted cost to maintaining a civil society. To grow an economy; there has to be a strong private sector that can provide a return on government investment. Unless the wages of the people initially employed through the government stimulus transitions from taxes on the private sector to revenue from the private sector there is no return on investment and no net gain. The problem this administration is creating is an unsustainable government workforce that does not translate to private sector jobs. Taxing wages paid for by taxes without a gain in the private sector is an overall negative on the economy. This is bad economics with a shrinking private sector that is expected to cough up the tax dollars to sustain the governments ventures. At least the internet, Hoover dam, Interstate highways, teachers, and public Universities actually have a return on taxpayer investment. So far this administration has failed to invest in the services and infrastructure that stimulates growth in the private sector. We need jobs that can adequately cover the new cost of services that we expect from our civil servants.

More on the Blind Sheikhm tried in NY, and the mischief and terror he continues to inspire – then multiply by 300.
“Abdel-Rahman’s imprisonment has become a rallying point for Islamic militants around the world, including Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. In 1997, members of his group Al-Gama’a al-Islamiyya conducted two attacks against European visitors to Egypt, including the massacre of 58 tourists at Deir el-Bahri in Luxor. In addition to killing women and children, the attackers mutilated a number of bodies and distributed leaflets throughout the scene demanding Rahman’s release.
“In 2005, members of Rahman’s legal team, including attorney Lynne Stewart, were convicted of facilitating communication between the imprisoned Sheikh and members of the terrorist organization Al-Gama’a al-Islamiyya in Egypt.”

lets see????????? 60,000 fake jobs, $721,000 stolen to raise pay in Ga. $800 to make 8 pairs of boots in Ky.. Hmmm Yep we believe ya Obama. The stimulus and deputy dawg biden are doing a great job (snickers)
How about that skit on SNL last night making Obama look like a fool.. toooooooo funny
Even funnier… OBama and Eric Holder: If the 911 plotters are found not guilty we will still hold them …Hipprocisy at its best coming out of the radicalized left wing
Sometimes you can’t tell the left wing from the jihadist
Posted by: mickey maoist | Nov 22, 2009 3:22:58 PM
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The radical left are on a jihad.
They all have the gleam in the eye of the True Believer when talking about global warming & wealth redistribution, or unionizing our healthcare system while increasing costs and debt on a level that will crush our economy.
Dissent and you may get beaten up by union thugs or have a finger bitten off…
Hope n Change…mmm…mmm…mmm

How about that skit on SNL
Posted by: mickey maoist
is that the same SNL that was chastised by the ‘right’ for never ‘attacking’ the Dems…

With all the gang problems in chicago and the kids shooting each other every other day, I do not think they should bring those people here …infact i dont think they should be on American soil at all. I think you are making a terrible mistake by bringing them here. Try them where they are.

Dissent and you may get beaten up by union thugs or have a finger bitten off…
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Poor Minnie, she hasn’t actually watched the footage of the ‘union’ incident – in which nobody was beaten in any way . . . but that one finger biting incident really captured her imagination. You’re fearmongering . . . you realize that right? You know . . . pretending, so that things seem worse than they are and you can stir up fear.
Glad to see nonsense is so cheap on the disgraceful right.

An elderly black man was beaten senselss by two white union thugs.
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Nothing of the sort every happened. Post a source and date for this. Go ahead . . . waiting.

Holder should be disbarred for his incompetence.
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You don’t know anything about the legal system.

So I guess the AG must have the But Bush!!! circus trial all figured out. He is now free to move on to more pressing matters like pandering…
“For the last nine months, I’ve heard from Muslim and Arab Americans who feel uneasy about their relationship with their government, who feel isolated and discriminated against by law enforcement,” Holder said. “It is inconsistent with what America is all about.”
…Holder spoke at the banquet of Advocates and Leaders for Police and Community Trust, which consists of about 100 minority groups and law enforcement officials in metro Detroit.
That group includes the local branch of CAIR — yes, CAIR, the unindicted co-conspirators in the Holy Land Foundation jihadi charity funding case.”
Great to know our Attorney General is not below beating the campaign trail when he should be tracking down the Ft Hood jihadists contacts overseas.

Tierra: “You would have preferred people not get the $288 Billion in tax relief?”
From the LA Times:
“More than 15.4 million Americans soon could learn that what the tax man giveth, the tax man can take away.
Those people, surprisingly, could owe taxes for 2009 because of complications in the Making Work Pay tax credit, a cornerstone of the $787-billion economic stimulus package enacted in February, according to a government watchdog report released Monday.
More than 1.2 million of them could face Internal Revenue Service penalties, at least technically.
“It definitely is going to be a surprise to some taxpayers, who are either going to have a balance due or a reduced refund this year,” said Melissa Labant, technical manager on the tax staff of the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants. “I’m concerned about those people who are spending those refunds, which in fact they might not be going to receive.”
About 1 of every 10 people who file taxes, particularly those with more than one job, might have had too little withheld this year, meaning they have to make up the difference by April 15, according to the report by the Treasury Department’s inspector general for tax administration.”
Happy Tax Day, Obamabots!
Mmm Mmmm Mmmm! Barack Hussein Obama!

Tierra: “You would have preferred the police, firefighters, teachers and health workers across the country lost their jobs as the state and local budgets crashed and burned? You like anarchy in the streets?
You would have preferred people lose their unemployment benefits and head out into the streets?”
The unemployment rate was much higher during the Great Depression. People were hungry and much more desperate than they are now. There was NO UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE at all. Yet there was no “anarchy in the streets.” Why is that?

BTW-
How do they spend that $8 a week?
On the new house? On the new car?
Creating a new job?

Yes this government has paid for state workers keeping their jobs. Stimulis money instead of being used for providing improved infrastructure went to preventing massive layoffs of state workers because of shortfalls in taxes. Next year when the tax maoney doesn’t return because the States did not improve their infrastructure business won’t expand there. Are you ready to say Bailout again?

And to add to the misery of those of us who actually work:
from the AP:
“Employers already are squeezed by tight credit, rising health care costs, wary consumers and a higher minimum wage. Now, the surging jobless rate is imposing another cost. It’s forcing higher state taxes on companies to pay for unemployment insurance claims.
Some employers say the extra costs make them less likely to hire.”
Democrats are to jobs what bicycles are to ducks.

regardless of what side you’re on politically..
this is an outrage
Leading Indian outsourcers such as Tata Consultancy, Infosys and Wipro stand to gain contracts worth about $1 billion in the next one or two years as U.S. banks emerge from the troubled asset relief program, the Economic Times reported on Monday.
The newspaper said JPMorgan, Goldman Sachs ( and Morgan Stanley that received approval to buy back government stake worth $68 billion earlier this year are among the firms seeking operational efficiencies by outsourcing non-core IT and back-office projects to India.
American Express, Bank of New York Mellon and Capital One, which have started repaying government debt, were also considering outsourcing, it said.

“About 1 of every 10 people who file taxes, particularly those with more than one job, might have had too little withheld this year”
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About ONE in ten MIGHT have . .. . well that settles it then doesn’t it.
$288 Billion in tax relief is a LOT of tax relief no matter how the right wing tries to spin it – they just can’t stand the Democrats are actually smart enough to include the only idea the Republicans seem to be able to come up with . . . “tax relief”.
Democrats are smart enough to include ideas from all spectrums – something sadly missing from the right on this blog.

“$288 Billion in tax relief is a LOT of tax relief no matter how the right wing tries to spin it.”
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It is a lot of tax relief and it affects individuals, small businesses and people at all levels of income.
And tax relief is the only suggestion that has come out of the Republicans and the right wing. It’s what the Republicans asked for, and it’s what they got.