White House: We’re Not in the “Immediate Gratification Business”

We feel that the US can bark out orders to Couintries around the World, while the Countries with their tails wrapped round the hind-legs, would obey without questions.
So many of us still think that International diplomacy is a fast yielding endeavor.
I am sorry to inform you that the US is just a Country among over 200 Countries of the World. It can only make use of Suasions, Persuasions, compromises and where possible, threats to achieve its objectives.
However, in the case of China, we are dealing with a Country with very strong economic power. A Country that is holding over a trillion dollars in US Assets. A Country that the US has adverse Balance of Trade and Balance payment deficit with. A Country that recorded almost 9% Economic Growth rate in the last quarter.
A Country that is working frantically to strip the US of its Position as the world’s greatest economy. A Country that will work at cross purposes to US Interest in the world, if need be, to stamp its authority in its areas of Interests like Iran and North Korea.
Lets not fool ourselves, America is fast losing its bargaining chips against Nations.
It is in realization of this that President Obama is working frantically to take reclaim America’s goodwill around the World.
But I doubt if oppositions among Americans themselves would allow him to achieve this.

nor are you in the long term success business , mr president….

Time to send in Dr. Al Gore to explain Earth’s million degree core temperatures to these deniers.Somebody should explain the Main Sequence to that “Geophysicist”: Oh Be A Fine Girl, Kiss Me.And that’s with nuclear power!

This is a LONG list??? FOUR things?
“Critics argue”??? Who are the critics?
Journalism FAIL, Tapper.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 27% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -14. That matches the lowest Approval Index rating yet recorded for this President.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | Nov 19, 2009 9:41:53 AM
Thanks for the update. It may be time for another completely staged town hall meeting and some more shout-outs… throw in a couple of Medal of Honor winners and perhaps a speech about what is above his paygrade. That could really turn things around.

Chuck Schumer, November 2001
“There are also those prisoners of war who we have captured and will capture in Afghanistan and other countries who will receive a trial of some sort. It is clear we need to try those suspects in a forum that achieves two primary goals—two goals, I might add, that may not conflict. First, the Government must have the power to use even the most sensitive classified evidence against these suspects without compromising national security in any way, shape, or form. In addition, those who commit acts of war against the United States, particularly those who have no color of citizenship, don’t deserve the same panoply of due process rights that American citizens receive. Should Osama bin Laden be captured alive—and I imagine most Americans hope he won’t be captured alive. But if he is, it is ludicrous to suggest he should be tried in a Federal court on Center Street in Lower Manhattan.”

“…Not in the
“Immediate Gratification Business”…??
Obama better tell that to all the nitwits who voted for him.
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Are we suffering from collective amnesia? How possible is it that we have forgotten how we got into this economic mess.
I am not suffering from any type of amnesia…we got here because of the Dems…starting from Roosevelt up to Obama…they are the ones who have destroyed the financial stability of this nation.

While reading these comments I was struck by the negativity without any facts.
Posted by: gee | Nov 19, 2009 11:20:31 AM
Much like your own comment.

When they read stuff like the following, I wonder what sort of madness it is that makes our legislators want to go forward with this healthcare
monstrosity:
“Three-quarters of American voters – 74 percent – like President Barack Obama as a person, but only 47 percent like most of his policies, and voters disapprove 51 – 35 percent of the health care overhaul passed by the House of Representatives which he has endorsed, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today.
“Voters disapprove 53 – 41percent of President Obama’s handling of health care.
” Obama’s endorsement of the House of Representatives-passed health care plan makes no difference to 44 percent of American voters, while 24 percent say it makes them view him more favorably; 30 percent less favorably.”

I think Axelrod and his Chicago buds thought that a good economic downturn would send the American People rushing into the governments arms. Now they’re starting to realize the folly of that particular strategy. But like all leftwing ideologues, they’re far to rigid and arrogant to change course. Preferring to blame mysterious cabals and legions of rightwing boogeyman for they’re miscalculations and childish mistakes.

Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), the chairman of that committee, said that arguments raised by Republican senators about whether bin Laden would be afforded Miranda rights if he were captured was a “red herring.”
“The red herring that my friend [Sen.] Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) was covering is not realistic,” Leahy said during an appearance on “Washington Journal” on C-SPAN.
“For one thing, capturing Osama bin Laden — we’ve had enough on him, we don’t need to interrogate him,” Leahy added.
The stupid. It burns.

Not in the ‘immediate gratification business’, unless it is flying up to NYC to catch a play or jetting over to Copenhagen to take credit for nabbing the Olympics in Chicago (not).

PALIN PREJEAN
in 2012

Mission Accomplished.

No happy endings?

I more and more think that when it all starts falling apart at breakneck speed, there will still be a handful of fools abroad in the land yammering like so many chimpanzees about George W. Bush.

Posted by: drjohn | Nov 19, 2009 3:00:36 PM
Hey, don’t forget Turbo Tax Timmy!
Echoing Democrat’s Comments, Two Republicans Call for Geithner to Go
Geithner Pushes Back, Blames Bush Administration for Problems
-ABC News

O-bow-ma comes up with yet another creative way to waste taxpayer $$$.
I thought our standing in the world had improved with the coronation of our Boy King? I thought through his “charisma” and “charm” all would be well in the world?
The day is coming when a majority of Americans will wish that Bush were in office instead of Obummer. I predict that day to come about the 4th week into KSM’s “show trial”….

The day is coming when a majority of Americans will wish that Bush were in office
Posted by: tjp612
thanx for the good laugh

KSM’s “show trial”
Posted by: tjp612
as opposed to republican ‘no trials’
now, the paranoid ‘right’ doesn’t want terrorists tried because Obama is Pres…

Coups sometimes happen when dear leaders are out of town. Nobama
-likes- flying around in the booster seat in Air Force Won – seeing interesting places, like, um NYC. He can’t stand the U.S., isn’t from here, and could care less about staying home to fix problems. Demos are all insane. It’s that Washington DC water that has poisoned their minds.

“But critics argue all that time and jet fuel has not been well-spent.”
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Gotta love it when reporters use a vague “critics argue” to try to make up for not doing the work themselves. And worse to not even name the critics.

Gotta love it when reporters use a vague “critics argue” to try to make up for not doing the work themselves. And worse to not even name the critics.
Posted by: tierra |
Are you saying that criticism from an unnamed source is somehow not valid and therefore we should ignore your criticism because you didn’t name your source?

Actually tierror the “worst” is liberals like you wasting on-line space defending the zero in chief. He accomplished nothing on that trip. Btw this isn’t a press conference and I’m not surprised to hear you are still working towards finishing grade school.

You seem quit unaware of the damage the Bush administration caused to international treaties and international relationships.
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Are you aware of the growing sentiment around the world about POTUS?
Would it ever even occur to you that the Russians think they can get a better deal? I bet it occurred to them.

World leaders are taking the measure of Obama and detecting that he is weak and easily outmaneuvered.
We are in serious trouble with him at the helm.

World leaders are taking the measure of Obama and detecting that he is weak and easily outmaneuvered.
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This is your guess from your limited viewpoint. The truth could be quite the opposite.

The apology tour continues. America is fast losing its respect amongst the nations of the world.

The rage across this country is palpable
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Actually the President polls at number very close to his election victory numbers.
Are people fed up with the bickering and back-biting of politicians and the lack of civil cooperation? Of course they are . . and we know where the source of that comes from.

In an interview with Bill Press regarding the health care legislation currently being debated in Congress, Rep. John Conyers said Rahm Emanuel has told Congress, “Just give us anything and we’ll declare victory.”
Obama has not led on the fight for a good health care bill that could actually help people
He is weak and lacking in any principles worth noting.
And thinks that being wishy-washy and easily pushed around is the same as being willing to negotiate.

“Actually the President polls at number very close to his election victory numbers.”
False. His poll number among voters is actually much closer to McCain’s election defeat numbers (45.7%).
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Oh yes, if you cherry pick one pollster you can get the numbers to say almost anthing you want.
The truth is many pollsters have Obama above 50% – far from the number you post.
Besides, Reagan was down below 40% at points in his presidency – and he successfully ran and completed 2 terms.

Posted by: AStoner | Nov 19, 2009 7:58:28 PM
“Before Obama came to power less than 50% of the world (closer to 40%) thought the United States could be counted on to do the right thing. Now that number stands at 70%.”
You may not know what ‘doing the right thing’ means, but to individuals polled around the world it means to act in a morally correct way.

The reason the TRIALS where delayed so long is that ACLU types have been filing lawsuits arguing for the TERRORISTS “RIGHTS”. Some of the same scum lawyers are now part of the 0bama justice department!!!!
Holder was involved with some of the law firms perpetrating this treason! In
any other administration other then this CORRUPT, INEPT, CRIMINAL GANG. He would have to recuse himself. But liberals are lower then whale droppings in the ocean!
The clown snarking on the Start treaty.. GET THE H@LL out of the USA.

Some of the same scum lawyers are now part of the 0bama justice department!!!!
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Oh, and that inconvenient Supreme Court of the United States – I suppose you think they’re just a ‘scummy’ bunch too.

“Rasumussen couldn’t add 2 and 2 together and come up an answer unless the Republican leadership told them the answer they wanted first–”
Check his results in the 2004 and 2008 presidential election (and in NJ this month) and report back.
How does the Quinnipiac number suit you?

“The bottom line is that Rasmussen would be more useful, say, for midterms next fall than on issues or approval ratings.”
Why would there be a difference? His approval ratings seem remarkably close to those of Fox/Opinion Dynamics, which afe the only other two I’m aware of that poll voters as opposed to adults.

Octavia, I’m not sure I understand what you mean (but I’m also not sure I understand what “presidential approval” is, either).
There’s all kinds of evidence that poll results can vary crazily depending on how the question is posed, and some of the exposes of the variations have made for some fun reading. I would think–although I don’t know–that the presidential approval one is pretty standard, viz. “do you approve of the way the president is doing his job so far?” or something similar.
I’m sure that answers do, indeed, vary as a number of factors over which the president has very little control change. But that’s something that all of them have had to deal with since the onset of polling.

The nations of Britain, France, Germany and Italy all elected heads of government who were friendly to George Bush and to the United States during the Bush administration.
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France and Germany would have nothing to do with the attack on Iraq, and the supposed ‘coalition of the willing’. Italy almost immediately voted the Bush-supporting goverment out of power.
And yes, Iran did develop its nuclear facilities under the watchful eye of George Bush – including one we find out the only purpose for it was producing materials for nuclear weapons.

“Len you do understand what an international treaty is right? And international relationships.
And p.s. – Len – do you think Iran’s nuclear facilities suddenly sprang up in the past 9 months? Guess what, they didn’t – they were started and progressed under Bush’s watchful eye.”
Tiera-
Good to see that your second response was on point.
As to the first, do I ‘understand’? You have a point, that in any way actually relates to ‘international relations’ or ‘international treaties’? I doubt anyone here cares what you or I ‘understand’ in general; they are likely more interested in specifics. That was simply a vacuous sentence lacking any real information. Do you understand nuclear physics? Who cares?
As to the second, you are putting words in my mouth. I’ll make my own statements, thank you. Meanwhile, you are free to argue with yourself as you wish. There is simply no question that the Iranians were subdued at lease until the liberal attacks on Bush that undermined our war on terrorism gained traction, and truly blossomed over the last year. Yet, Obama is not satisfied- he is now attempting to place terrorists like OBL in the category of ‘criminal’ who must be mirandized and provided an attorney the moment he is apprehended by the military. Pat Leahey says it’s OK because we don’t need to interrogate him to get a conviction, as if OBL has nothing to say about Al Qaeda tactics, resources, personnel, communications, resources, etc. Holder is so deep in conflicts of interest on this issue that he can’t even give a coherent explanation for his decision beyond a demonstrably insane protocol that results in a multi-million dollar bonanza for his former law firm with which he still negotiating compensation. And all you can suggest is some strawman argument that completely misses the incredibly serious bungling that threatens the future of our nation? Incredible how petty the mind can be.

“Italy almost immediately voted the Bush-supporting goverment out of power.”
We began the liberation of Iraq in March, 2003. Silvio Berlusconi remained Prime Minister for more than three years thereafer (until May, 2006) and was re-elected in May, 2008.

“It was an attack on Iraq and it killed tens of thousands of Iraqis, many women and children, many civilians . ..”
The liberation of France was an attack on France and it killed tens of thousands of French people, many women and children, many civilians…
You said that the Italians voted the government out “almost immediately” after the attack on Iraq, yet it was more than three years later. Why do you insist on doing things like that?

It takes one who willfully intends to deceive to say only that Hussein was hung for the particular crime of which he was convicted, which was sufficient for the verdict and judgment, and make no mention of his far more ghastly crimes. No one disputes that he was responsible for innumerable other murders, one example of which is the following:
“The worst human rights abuses of Hussein’s tenure took place during the genocidal al-Anfal Campaign (1986-1989), in which Hussein’s administration called for the extermination of every living thing–human or animal–in certain regions of the Kurdish north. All told, some 182,000 people–men, women, and children–were slaughtered, many through use of chemical weapons.”

The liberation of France was an attack on France and it killed tens of thousands of French people, many women and children, many civilians…
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France was invade by Germany.
Iraq was invaded by the United States.

“The worst human rights abuses of Hussein’s tenure took place during the genocidal al-Anfal Campaign (1986-1989), in which Hussein’s administration called for the extermination of every living thing–human or animal–in certain regions of the Kurdish north. All told, some 182,000 people–men, women, and children–were slaughtered, many through use of chemical weapons.”
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This act took place in a time of war – the same as the firebombing of 67 Japanese cities and the incineration to death of hundreds of thousands of Japanese also took place during a time of war.
You will also remember the United States (under Reagan) was supplying support for Hussein during that time. Now we’re indignant – then we supported him.

…’not in the immediate gratification business’
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Yeah, he should have cured all the world’s ills in 10 months.
If the Republicans were in there, they could fix everything with one snap of their blessed fingers.

Obama is a walking contradiction.
He claims he’s a man of ‘no immediate gratification’ – a tempered, well thoughtful man who weighs all the arguments first, consults with all the opposing factions, listens to every argument, and patiently, prayerfully, painstakingly, and prudently presents his thoughtful, temperate, and wise decision to the world.
This is the man he only dreams of being. In his first 10 months of office goes on a rampage taking over the car industry, radically increasing our debt, and if he has his way taking over he health industry.
But he’s a good speech giver.

tierra,
Let’s all worship at the altar of the “Party god”. The world is not D vs R. I’m not even a Republican, so your stereotyping of my criticisms of Obama are classic broadbrushing of opposing viewpoints.
But I can see where some people are trapped inside the 1 dimensional box of D-R. It’s not about parties. Let’s put America first for once and give less attention to the glorified idols of D and R.

I think Mr. AxelRod has again skewed viewpoints to his desire. He forgot that Mr. Obama was made to look like he will turn water into bread, bread into wine, and then wine back to water when he was running during the election.

Under Obama’s first budget, the federal deficit would quadruple to 12.3% of GDP due to the passing of his first stimulus of $787 billion dollars and his rescue of the banking system. Let’s not forget his rescue of GM. He also promised unemployment would not exceed 9% and here we are in double digits.
Oh but yes, the In box is empty, the Outbox is empty, and the Blame Bush box is full. Bush increased government and spending, we all understand that. But do we have to go through this perpetual cycle of, “well . . . Bush did it too!”
Come on. Enough already, let’s work for America not for the Political Party god, for Pete’s sake!

The worst human rights abuses of Hussein’s tenure…..
Posted by: Fascist Hyena
glad that Rumsfeld bowed to him and Reagan supported and supplied him

In fact they wouldn’t know a properly run business if it bit them in the arse.
Posted by: capnjack
business people eh? seems the Bushies were going to bring all their ‘adult’ corporate and business ‘expertise’ to the government… how’d that work out….. gimme a break

Nonsense. This fiscal year runs from October 2008 to October, 2009.
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Obama wash, Obama’s fiscal year started the day he took office in January 2009 and the Democrat congress’ fiscal year started in January, 2007. Responsibility starts at the changing of the watch.

This could explain some things about Obama: He graduated from Columbia University, where he majored in political science and specialized in international relations. He then graduated from Harvard Law School. After law school, he worked as a community organizer and a civil rights lawyer in Chicago.
Reminds me of a couple of jokes I know:
What do you call a lawyer gone bad?
Senator.
What’s wrong with lawyer jokes?
Lawyers don’t think they’re funny and other people don’t think they’re jokes.

If all you can use to defend Obama is the “blame Bush” rant, you failed.
Posted by: capnjack
actually, It’s Bush that failed..
why is it that no one on the ‘right’ dares to admit that things were pretty bad when Bush left office economically, and that he left 2 wars unresolved, and did this over 8 years….
now.. the right wants Obama to clean up the mess left by Bush et. al. in less than a year…
sort of like saying my car looked really good before I totaled my car when I crashed into you, now, fix my car before the end of the day
gimme a break….

If all you can use to defend Obama is the “blame Bush” rant, you failed.
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Not at all, when a current President is under attack it is entirely appropriate to compare that person’s performance with previous occupants of the office – particularly the most recent.
The Bush Republicans failed miserably on protecting the American economy.

Let’s see….
Played by the Chinese? Check.
Played by the North Koreans? Check.
Played by the Iranians? Check.
Played by the OAS? Check.
Played by the Russians? Check.
Hmmm…so who’s left for Obama kowtow and inevitably crumble before? Weak administration. Absolutely weak. And no, it is possible to be diplomatic and not a chump (although good luck explaining that to the administration).

There is no exuse low or lame enough that Obama, his administration and his followers won’t use. These people are rank amateurs, and if they think they’re buying time by implying we’re into “instant gratification,” they’re wrong. It’s always been juvenile to blame a predecessor, but is constantly used by Democrats as a deflection strategy. Real leaders don’t do that.

indeed “was a dem”, this ill-advised, ametuer, leftist, anti-capitalist socialist is doing his very best to destroy all that America ever was,,, is it intentional, or is he that ignorant of how the world actually works?

The trip was about building relationships — trust and finding common ground and solutions to world problems…, now that we have become so Interdepedent….
It makes no good sense for anyone to oppose healthcare reform. It seems some are more worried about Insurance companies being crowded out due to competition and lower costs than the Health of the people, some who will surely die. Some are more concerned for the bottomline of the Insurance Companies than the small businesses (who they Pretend to care about) who have to pay high premiums for their employees, forcing some out of business, some to offer no health insurance, or some to set up shop elsewhere other than the United States! And why do we have so many kinds of crises in this country????
It is too bad that we have a certain group — the Party of No and Fear — who are Advocates of Can’t, Won’t, Shouldn’t, Distortion, Fear, Hatred and Divisiveness. They are a dark group, a bitter group. For too long we have been spoon-fed a bunch of lies and fears by these powers who want to immobilize us, paralyze us and confuse us and to keep us circling the Yellow Brick Road! Again, why do we have so many crises in this country???
And, It is a sad fact that the Afghanistan War is also a false war and a false choice. These terrorists do not stay in one place or in one country, they are all over. We are not at war with any one country, this is a fallacy. WE are in a “struggle” with an ideology, yes or evil, yes, but we are not at war with any country. Since, we have terrorists in our own country who are not Muslims, does this make us at war with the United States?
OH, if we only had a Brain….., Courage….., Heart/LOVE!

indeed “was a dem”, this ill-advised, ametuer, leftist, anti-capitalist socialist is doing his very best to destroy all that America ever was,,, is it intentional, or is he that ignorant of how the world actually works?
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Another disciple of the Fearmonger-in-Chief. Read the Anti-Defamation League piece.

What is so immediately apparent to me is that we are being shown over and over again that the US is no longer the top dog. Economically we are a crispy critter, and we lost the moral high ground as a consequence of the Bush administration. I think allaying with Israel over Iran is going to ruin us even more than we are already ruined, and I can’t blame China, one of Iran’s foremost trade partners, for not backing an embargo! Duh!
This is the new post Bush world – better get used to it, and do yourself a big favor and if you have them, put your cowboy fantasies away.

Axelrod claims “solid progress on climate change” ?
Hey, how ’bout them Hadly/CRU e-mails that were linked out from the Russian Server???
Heard University of East Anglia confirmed their system had been hacked and changed all of their passwords.
Best part “Mike’s Nature Tricks” to “hide the decline”. Way to go Micheal Mann!!!!! Hypocrite!!!!! Scientific heretic!
Hope his funding dries up:)