Bush Administration Claimed Success When Public Stopped Shoe-bomber

amazing how quiet it can get in here when rightwing talking points are skewered…

The lack of shame in government officials knows no party or wing. And this doesn’t invalidate the criticism, anyway.

What Ashcroft said was a far cry from what Incompetano said…she should be fired immediately…but nice try Jake.

And this is news how? This is a disappointing post.

What a ridiculous post. ‘Bush did it, so we can too. Nanee, nanee boo-boo’. It’s time to grow up and talk about defeating terrorists and jihad!

i’ve got no response to what bush did or said other than 2 wrongs don’t make a right! the big difference between the right wing tea partiers and the left wingers is that we didn’t blindly follow bush and defend every action he took.
napoleano instinctually tried to spin the story to make the WH look good, plan and simple. when it turned out how stupid her spin was, she tried to change it. when bush did it, i could admit it, left wingers are incapable of admiting anything wrong done by the new WH.
And by the way, if bush was really so bad, why do you accept when obama does the same thing?? wasn’t he supposed to be better than bush?

Can’t remember Bush (or Clinton)blaming the president before him in virtually every speech.
Or apologozing for America in every speech overseas.
Maybe it’s Obama’s thin skin.

Jake, didn’t you get the memo: AQ says this was in retaliation for Obama’s strikes on Yemen.
He OWNS this.
In fact, he has approved more predator attacks in 11 months than Bush used in 8 years!
Stop covering for him; he’s a warmonger!

Bush had to fight for any ounce of success. He didn’t have the luxury of having all of the MSM and three major networks covering his back.

Well the soon to be obamatrons criticized him at the time, so time to blame the obamatron’s messiah.

Change We Can Believe In!
- Attributed to 0bama (although the Greatest Philosopher and Admirer of his friend Secretary of propaganda, Mao, said “Revolution We Can Believe In!)
Our Greatest Smartest Clueless Leader will point out that he has ordered a full review of his policies, excuse, Bush policies that he inherited. He will “Change” that incompetent Prez’s rules, now that a terrorist, excuse, a loner, has shown to him what they are capable of. He will point out Bush was so incompetent, only went so fart to take your shoes off. Contrary, our GSCL ordered to fully pat down passenger crouch, to feel foreign objects, definitely for your safety, to prevent this from ever happening again. He is not reacting, he is changing, of course, like it will make a real difference.
Furthermore, Bush is known for nepotism – remember those Brownies?; our GSCL, of course, is known for change, for putting his “competent” friends in important positions. His friend Secretary in charge of his party allowed anyone to walk into his White House and shake hands and picture with him. His supporter Secretary in charge of your security says “We’re ascertaining why it was that he was not flagged in a more specific way when he purchased his ticket, given the information that we think was available, allegedly was available,”. ALLEGEDLY??? Of course, she will need a 12 person committee to decide it was true before she is convinced such public information that she thinks was available was available.

Bush was so successful Obama has decided to keep many of his policies in place.
The ones that work Obama takes credit.
The ones that fail Obama blames Bush.

Tapper, I know I’m splitting hairs a little, but there is a difference between saying “we depend on the vigilance of our citizens” and “everything went according to plan.”
Ashcroft and Ridge were more of a diplomatic phew. Napolitano was a gaffe, clearly.

There is no similarity between Napolitano’s comments and Ashcroft’s. He simply said that their attempt to encourage citizen vigilance was successful in the Reid case. He made no claim that “the system” worked.
Napolitano’s comments about the system working is far more comprehensive in what she claimed worked. She later corrected herself from an obviously insane comment made on Sunday. Also, I know this is tedious, but Ashcroft was speaking 3 months after 9/11, when the USG was still working to build a security system whereas Napolitano is speaking 8 years later with many years of experience in dealing with AQ.
Tapper, I think you over reached.

Jake shows his true colors-he’s no different than any of the other MSM journalists. Sadly.

“We”?‬‪
Yes, Jake, “we” as in “we the people.” You know, Jake. The way President Obama wanted us to put aside our petty differences and unite as a country? And since then has done little if anything to bring us together.

Hardly the same, Jake!
That was 7 years ago — with none of the tools we have in place now (all failed, BTW).

“The system” wasn’t flawless then and it’s not flawless now. And when Tapper mocked the use of the word “we”, he did it because the authorities used it in the exclusive sense to refer to “the system” at airport security, whereas the “we” responsible for thwarting the attacks were the public, not the designated security agents. Both Ashcroft and Naplitano made misleading statements.
And stop blaming Obama for blaming Bush. He’s mentioned only rarely that he inherited a couple of major problems and never referred to Bush by name. Whatever weaknesses there are in Obama or his administration, he’s never gone on egomaniacal rants or lost his temper.

Sadly too many are looking to the government to protect them and falling in stride to those that claim it’s the government only that should protect them. It’s the hard working Americans that have made America great. And it’s those that look to be government to succor them that is tearing it apart. So the President is absolutely correct to say that people should be vigilant; at least those that won’t blame the government of failure to do its duty.

When is Obama going to declare mission accomplished.?
Posted by: CW
what we know for a fact is who really did say mission accomplished, and the arrogant, flailing in the dark futility that was the policy of Bush/Cheney

Obama will never declare mission accomplished as he is incapable of accomplishing anything.

And stop blaming Obama for blaming Bush. He’s mentioned only rarely that he inherited a couple of major problems and never referred to Bush by name.
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Facts are apparently irrelevant to those out to smear the President.

janet incompetano… i love it and liberals thought they are so much smarter than us dumb conservatives. duh lets talk to the terrorists….iranians need our help and we are sitting on our thumbs.the incompetence of elite arrogance is coming home to roost.

Anyone that believes that every terrorist attack attempt will be stopped is delusional. I do believe though that several plots(8) have been stopped just this year by this HSA that so many are calling incompetent right now. I am very proud of the passenger of 253 that stopped this murderous thug as I was the passengers of flight 93 that gave the ultimate sacrifice. Too bad that everything has to be so partisan and hateful now even when lives are saved on Christmas Day.

Too bad that everything has to be so partisan and hateful now even when lives are saved on Christmas Day.
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The hacks who attack the President and his family apparently take no breaks from their hateful attacks and have no respect for holy days.

You all have been blaming Bush for every Obama misstep as long as I’ve been reading this blog.
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Surely you can differentiate between statements by the President of the United States – and what a bunch of bloggers post? Surely!
The President was being smeared as someone who ‘blames Bush for everything’. That is not true. We bloggers are a different story . .
But no, we don’t blame Bush for every misstep Obama makes.
It is Obama’s job to wrestle with the severely damaged economic situation he was left when he took office – but he did not create that economy, and he cannot be blamed for it.
And yes, when we hear Obama attacked by the Republicans and the right wing extremists, we will draw a comparison between the two administrations to show the hypocrisy of the Republicans, or the relative strengths and weaknesses of Bush compared to Obama.

“Once the incident occurred, the system worked,” (Napolitano) told me on This Week on Sunday. “The passengers reacted correctly, the crew reacted correctly, within an hour to 90 minutes, all 128 flights in the air had been notified. And those flights already had taken mitigation measures on the off-chance that there was somebody else also flying with some sort of destructive intent.”‬‪
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There’s the quote.

The President was being smeared as someone who ‘blames Bush for everything’. That is not true.
Posted by: tierra
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It sounds weak and ineffectual to be blaming your predecessor for the challenges you face. This administration needs to man up and stop talking about “inherited problems.” He knew what he was facing as president and he said he was the best man for the job. He needs to start working with both parties and come up with centrist policies that will please the electorate. We are not a leftist country. You can spin all you want tierra, but this administration needs to take responsibility for the problems that are occurring during his presidency. And yes he can be credited with the stimulus bill that was supposed to save our economy and signing these pork laden bills. Fort Hood was on his watch and so was this airline bomber. Fix the problem. Don’t spin it or blame someone else. Act like an adult.
BTW, I don’t need someone telling me about the hypocrisy of the democrats. It’s in full view everyday.

It sounds weak and ineffectual to be blaming your predecessor for the challenges you face.
Posted by: wow
you should ask that question to one of your rightist mouthpiece martyrs, Mary Matalin who amazingly claimed the other day, that Bush inherited Sept 11th,..
revisionists hard at work..

jonny wrote: “Obama will never declare mission accomplished as he is incapable of accomplishing anything.”
Yeah, anybody can get him/her self elected president.

Jason…if you write long comments to try and convince someone else of your “facts”….please get it right! The Bush administration RELEASED hundreds of Gitmo detainees back to Yemen…..and the Obama administration has plans to release the 7, since this is one of the policies he’s kept to closed down the torture chamber. So…are you saying that Bush knew that the “radical cleric” is behind these attacks also?

Jake,
You make a good point. There is a lot of finger pointing from the right that the current administration let down the guard to the point that this attempt could have led to a disaster – and they had a few close calls their-own-darn-selves that were cocked and loaded before they were thwarted.
It is just time to install the full body scanners at the gates and get this done. There has been a lot of resistance to this measure but if we don’t we run the risk that some unknown, undetected, undetectable sole practitioner will make through the check points under the current system. We have the technology let’s use it.
If this is viewed as some kind of massive intrusion of civil rights and privacy then those people can start driving instead of using planes. There is a war going on out there and these idiots are targeting innocent people as legitimate combatants. The rules of engagement have changed: we can’t necessarily look at our enemies in the eyes; they are cowards and sneak up when no one is looking and blow up planes. We need to get over the civil rights issues and seek safety against these acts of coward-ism.
Let’s end this debate and take the path of protecting our citizens and the citizens of the world.

This economic mess started after the Democrats took control of Congress in ’07. And Obama has blamed the Bush administration for current problems.

BachisBet said “Those who want to blame the current administration forget that the system in place was set up by the Bush administration.” Yada, yada, yada! Blame Bush is getting old! This administration is so lack in keeping us safe that there is no doubt in my mind that something catastrophic is going to happen during their watch. They are so “Politically Correct” that they are afraid to call a terrorist a terrorist!! Look how they handled the Fort Hood TERRORIST – afraid to call him what he was. It’s sickening!!

ummm, Jake? ‘W’ has been out of office for over a year- this is now Obama’s baby. 2 terrorist attack in a little over a year- where’s the reporting on the disorganization of this administration’s personnel, bloated bureaucratic dept,s and soviet-style czars? and what came out of the fort hood investigation??? get on the ball, jake, and pretend to be a true journalist seekin answers and stop serving as BO’s stenographer

All you people that want to use the “Full Body Scanner” remember many in the rest of the world would be offend by its use on them becaue of privacy. You may claim that maybe they should not fly, so who cares. The result would be devistating because they would not buy US products because of that attitude. Then again, you claim we should not profile. Why not, because many will be offended. Life doesn’t work that way. I would rather profile people than to spend the tremendous cost of these devices. Why does our newly elected government call these “man caused disasters” instead of terrorisum. Its more likely the people we elected in government are just stupid, but that is offensive (to them). Then again, who cares.

Yes, “the system worked,” when it verifiably failed in every way is the exact same as Ashcroft encouraging the vigilance of the citizenry and lack of dependence on government.
What happened, Tapper? Not getting invited to the right parties anymore?

Lets face it. INformation was given by the terrorist father to the american embasy,the information got lost some where.The person jumping and stopping the guy is to be expected, we are not going down without giving a fight anymore after 9/11. That America elected a moron for Pres ? absolutely !That some of you still believe on his farce ? absolutely ! is called denial.

September 11th was a wake up call to the US. Until that time we were blind to the fact that it could happen here. Now we know and we have to be vigilant, follow all leads, claim responsibility when necessary and fix weak links in the system. There was an obvious weak link from the US Embassy. Let’s fix it and move on. Terrorists spend all their time creating nothing of value to humankind. They devote their lives to destroying others and sometimes they will be successful. The sooner we learn that and take as many precautions as possible the better off we will be. Thank God we were lucky this time!

Bush claims a V by stopping the shoe bomber…ok well, his administration ignored the threats about 9/11 and then lied the American ppl to get us into a never-ending war that wasn’t paid for. Not only that, the Bush Administration destroyed the economy and allowed ppl like Madoff to exist. Had McCain/Palin won, we would be in the deepest depression this country has ever seen while McCain lives off of his wife’s millions. The republicans are a nutty bunch of whiney, vindictive 2year olds. It’s pathetic.
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….and what are YOUR party’s victories?The very reason there was a terrorist attack in the first place is because the liberals wanted to close GITMO and consider the terrorists there to be “victims” of the Bush administration. The two Al Qeada leaders from Yemen who planned last week’s attack were former prisoners of GITMO. Congratulations on your victory!

The two Al Qeada leaders from Yemen who planned last week’s attack were former prisoners of GITMO. Congratulations on your victory!
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Those two were released by the Bush administration in 2007. Yet another Republican victory?

The two Al Qeada leaders from Yemen who planned last week’s attack were former prisoners of GITMO. Congratulations on your victory!
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Those two were released by the Bush administration in 2007. Yet another Republican victory?
Posted by: tierra | Dec 29, 2009 4:32:42 PM
Isn’t that the “liberal way”? I thought you WANTED Gitmo closed and the detainees realeased?
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BUSH released these two, not Obama. Can you Republican and right wing fools not accept responsibility for anything? Grow up.

Wow…let’s move on already. When they release terrorists in Illinois after closing Guantanamo; Are they going to blame that on Bush too?
Give me a break. It’s time to put on the big boy pants and have some accountability. I would have fired an employee by now if they kept making all these excuses.
Posted by: Rochelle | Dec 29, 2009 12:54:05 PM
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big talk coming from people who, to this day, can’t use the name Bill Clinton often enough while they have their arm extended with a finger pointing away from themselves……do you fools actually listen to yourselves?

Ridge acknowledged that it was a passenger who thwarted the attack. Janet said that “everything” was done as it should have been. There’s a big difference. Democrats were the ones screaming and pressuring to release Gitmo prisoners. Liberals in Congress forced the releases and demanded to release even more people.

Ok… For you Obama followers that don’t have a clue on facts let me help you. Terrorists should be handled by the military. Period. Our judicial system is weak. Want proof. How about O J Simpsons. Check and mate. Next the current economy is not bushs fault it’s Clinton. He signed the CRA which let “less than creditworthy” people buy home they could never afford. Want proof? Can a public school bus driver afford a 750 k $ home in 1income? Look it all up