By Jennifer Parker

Dec 5, 2009 5:32pm

Clinton Hasn’t Talked to Italians About Knox

Did anti-Americanism taint the trial of Amanda Knox?

That’s the question Sen. Maria Cantwell is posing following the Italian murder conviction of the former University of Washington student.

The year-long murder trial of the 22-year-old has caused an international media frenzy.

The senator argued in a statement released Friday that the Italian prosecution “did not present enough evidence” to convict Knox of the murder of her housemate, and said she would convey her concerns to Secretary of State Clinton.

During our “This Week’ interview airing Sunday, Clinton told me she'd be happy to meet with Sen. Cantwell but she hasn't expressed any concerns to the Italians about Knox … here's our exchange:

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: "Do you share her concerns about this trial?"
 
SECRETARY OF STATE HILLARY CLINTON: "George I honestly haven't had time to even examine that. I've been immersed in what we're doing in Afghanistan. Of course I'll meet with Sen. Cantwell or anyone who has a concern but I can't offer any opinion about that at this time."

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: "So you have not expressed any concerns to the Italian government?"

SECRETARY OF STATE HILLARY CLINTON: "I have not, no."

User Comments

The U.S has more people in jail and prison than any country in the whole world. They still execute people and from time to time some of them have been inocent. No trials for torture and war crimes, the U.S does not have a leg to stand on when it comes to justice. You can become a sex offender for pissing on the street, or a teenager sending her boy friend a picture of her breasts. There sex laws are stupid and they make it imossible to know who a true sex offender is. The justice system in the U.S is in terrible condition and needs a complete overhaul.The attorneys are running wild suing to make a quick dollar.

Posted by: king | December 5, 2009, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

This is a truly ridiculous question, Miss Knox’s co-defendant is Italian and was also found guilty.
It wasn’t anti-Americanism – she was found guilty because of the numerous times her story changed, her attempt to blame an innocent man and her lack of affect.
Discussions of her innocence are valid but her nationality had nothing to do with the Jury’s verdict, her personality did.
The Senators suggestion only harms to Miss Knox, the US and the Kerchers.

Posted by: Cat | December 5, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

This is not about anti Americanism. Senator Cantwell needs to get all the information. Her Italian boyfriend who’s
father is a doctor was also convicted at the same time, was given the same prison sentence!

Posted by: stefanie | December 5, 2009, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

This was CLEARLY a case of anti-Americanism and everyone needs to get thier facts striaght! What needs to happen is a boycott of Italy by all US citizens and all Italian products! This is a third generation Italian saying this but this girl is only in prison becouse she is a american!

Posted by: Brian Young | December 5, 2009, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

What about teh gamorra and all those killers in NAples and Calabria and the Brigatta Rosse Ah!
What about the illegals tresspassing to the italian waters haf dead.
I do believe than Amanda know is innocent and the italian judicary system is bad, yes worse than the American system. if that happens here in America the case will be thrown out.
Time will tell.

Posted by: tomas | December 5, 2009, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

Wow dumb blog. She was guilty and along her with her ITALIAN BF has to do the time.

Posted by: db | December 5, 2009, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

ridiculous, why are we making an international affair out of this?.. She was found gulty along with an ITALIAN!!!
Now we claim that Italians are anti- American Cmon been to Italy a dozen times and never saw a tracxe of that.n fact every one I met in Italy wanted to kknow if i knew their relative in Brooklyn. now we want to bring Clinton into it.

Posted by: Dan B. | December 5, 2009, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

Obama administration is a bit schizophrenic. Two people break the law in North Korea and the heavens are moved and great political capital are spent to get them back. Another American breaks the law in Italy and… zilch?? Nada??? Nothing??? I guess the Barak & Hillary Show were busy concentrating on teaching political math to military neophytes; notwithstanding basic opposition to rational math and Generally Accepted Accounting Practices.

Posted by: Greg | December 5, 2009, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

She MURDERED someone. This is not a case of nationalism or a time to cry out for patriotism. Our president should run to Italy to help a murderer? Now that is a ridiculous notion. To bring politics into this is just another expression of the United States’ absurd obsession with political partisanship above all else, including common sense. In our globalized world, it’s time for Americans to stop crying in the streets about how every act by every individual and nation is against us. Narcissism is running rampant and the US needs to get over itself.

Posted by: Monique | December 5, 2009, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Two of the Italian jurors wept during the reading of the verdict. I’ve been there – twice on juries where we convicted men who both got longer sentences than Knox. You, the juror, realize the seriousness of what you are doing: destroying someone’s life if you convict. Anti-Americanism? No. Strike a blow for justice? Not so much. It’s more like the feeling you get when you have to put a pet to sleep: you know it’s the right thing to do but you’re so sorry you have to do it. When I heard those jurors cried I knew exactly how they felt. And, because they both cried and voted guilty, I’m sure they were convinced of Knox’s guilt, though it bothers me that one a judge was on the jury – he would have too much potential influence for my taste.
It would be out of place for the USA to talk to the Italians about Knox unless we knew of some corruption associated with the trial. We have to respect the Italians judicial decisions.

Posted by: The_Mick | December 5, 2009, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

The State Department isn’t there to “respect” foreign judicial systems. It needs to advocate on behalf of fair trial for Americans incarcerated abroad. And, whether or not Ms. Knox is guilty of the crime, it is very clear she did not receive a fair trial.

Posted by: Ed Meyer | December 5, 2009, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

I’m still skeptical both of the verdict and the whole Italian judicial system. Three forensic experts were called to testify and their testimony was contradictory regarding Knox’s role. There really isn’t any direct evidence that she was there, much less the killer. Yeah, her story changed, but I doubt any of us would have been thinking very clearly in those circumstances.

Posted by: watercarrier4diogenes | December 5, 2009, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

The fix was in. She’s innocent but Italy could not afford to find her innocent. Many mothers and fathers would pull their children out of college if this were to become a story about how a student was held for 2 years while innocent.

Posted by: UBOB | December 5, 2009, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

A country having Gitmo trials has ANY claim at to criticise another country’s judicial? Right wing paranoia is alive and well. An international couple, both convicted on evidence, in a western country with a legal system roughly as fair and open as the good old US of A, gitmo and our own kangaroo courts excluded of course.

Posted by: You are Joking | December 5, 2009, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

“A country having Gitmo trials has ANY claim at to criticise another country’s judicial?”
OH SNAP SON!

Posted by: Carl | December 5, 2009, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

there is no evidence,no motive,the dna is tainted,the knife that they keep showing was not used in the killing.At first the arrested knox and lumamba as the killers,then this other guy from the ivory coast was taken in and lumumba released,This whole thing is a joke.Who is yjis prosecutor?Free the young lady.

Posted by: ew | December 5, 2009, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

What a banana republic is the US? Why should politicians intervene into a murder case that is dealt with the Italian judicial system? You would neither expect the Italian government to intervene into criminal trials.

Posted by: don | December 5, 2009, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

Senator Cantwell cannot be serious. She is grandstanding for her constituency, clearly, but spare us the b.s. The Italian jury is composed of two professional judges plus six civilians. We can at least be assured they were more intelligent than the O.J. jury.

Posted by: Josh | December 5, 2009, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

Why the heck should she? Knox got as good a defense as she’d have got in America. And she is guilty as sin.

Posted by: Marcus K | December 5, 2009, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

“At first they arrested knox and lumamba as the killers,” Of course this WAS because Knox had said Lumumba did it. She arrived at the police station at 1015 after dinner with Raffaele. Her questioning as a WITNESS began at midnight (after those cartwheels). Less than two hours later, at 0145, she said Lumumba had done it and she’d been there. The claim of hours of abuse is false. She has not once changed her story before police have shown her the previous one could be proved a lie.

Posted by: Marcus K | December 5, 2009, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

Three people are in prison. Four were accused. Only ONE of those four is American. We should really get over ourselves.

Posted by: Sophocles | December 5, 2009, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

I’ve been following this trial for a short time. Seems a year is a long time for a trial like this. Did they really have court-in-session 5 days a week for a year? Wish I knew if she was really guilty or not. Think the jury was afraid to let her go anyway with all the negative publicity about her locally. Can’t even imagine what her father’s going thru. Can only imagine if it was my daughter over there, and she was innocent!

Posted by: malibujimbo | December 6, 2009, 12:16 am 12:16 am

Note to self – If you don’t want to be convicted of murdering your roommate, try not to have them show up dead and you with no real alibi. Also – no cartwheels in the police station – try to cry and act upset instead.

Posted by: Realist | December 6, 2009, 1:21 am 1:21 am

Murder is murder and it doesn’t matter what country is involved. Americans shouldn’t be arrogant and think that we have a better system because our system is famous for imprisoning innocent people. Take a long look at the prisoners held at Gitmo for eight years without a trial. Now that is what i call justice.

Posted by: johnnylee | December 6, 2009, 1:23 am 1:23 am

It’s really not about anti-Americanism so much as it is a young girl having to spend the rest of her life in jail when there was zero proof that she was involved. Anyone talking about confessions & the like sit in a room with me for about 14 hours I’ll have you confessing to anything. If someone is railroaded its not about genealogy its about fairness.

Posted by: DavidPA15522 | December 6, 2009, 2:00 am 2:00 am

I find it problematic that the judges were part of the jury that deliberated her fate. Imagine a jury of lay people with 2 professionals; surely they’d have more influence. What professional judge would not try to impose their viewpoint, and what layperson would feel qualified to argue? We can infer nothing from a juror crying; she could just as easily have been upset about being pressured and railroaded by one of the judges. I find Amanda’s lack of affect strange and troubling, and perhaps indicative of some underlying problems; but the evidence for conviction of the crime just isn’t there.

Posted by: Jennifer144 | December 6, 2009, 2:11 am 2:11 am

It’s a ridiculous assumption. Americans should learn to stay out of other country’s justice system. The american justice syspet is a joke it of itself. Looks at OJ. If you do the crime, you must pay for it, no matter what country you’re from. And to call for a boycot of anything Italian it’s totally ridiculous.

Posted by: Antoinette | December 6, 2009, 2:44 am 2:44 am

We need to stay out of this mess. Amanda is where she is because of her own mouth and misbehaviour. Our country can’t afford to make enemies with the Italians or Brits considering the conditions of the world at the present time.

Posted by: WLCCS | December 6, 2009, 9:11 am 9:11 am

DavidPA – “zero proof” are you serious sir? DNA of Kercher, Knox, and Sollecito on the same knife consistent with the wounds on Kercher? Sollecito washing the knife with bleach? Knox voluntarily telling police – as a fact witness, not as a suspect yet – that she heard Kercher’s screams from the other room? Knox and Sollecito having a well-known penchant for sexual deviancy? Knox’s well-known disdain for Kercher as a roommate? I think we Americans need to stop scapegoating a foreign legal system, and get real. Knox is, at best an accomplice to murder, at worst a murderer herself.

Posted by: Josh | December 6, 2009, 9:42 am 9:42 am

HILLARY IS THE VERY ONE, WHO TOLD EVERYONE, WE AMERICANS ARE “BAD”! THIS BEHIND SHOULD BE HELPING AMANDA, BUT I DOUBT SHE WANTS TO…….

Posted by: Ann | December 6, 2009, 10:10 am 10:10 am

KING… You a 100 percent correct, who are we to judge the Italian system when WE the United States incarcerate more people than any other country in the world, particularly for petty crime when community service would better suite our nation. Instead it’s a police state as it stands and we send more innocent people off to jail than any other country. Also, if you read about all these high profile cases where people are spared prison and are innocent in the first place, most people don’t have a spare 250 thousand to save their hides, so the rest of the millions go behind bars. People who have no money to save themselves from this sort a railroading system are screwed. The USA is the cruelest nation on earth and the judges prosecutor’s and attorney’s prey upon ordinary citizens; they are the criminals of the free world and YES we need a drastic overhaul!

Posted by: Louie | December 6, 2009, 10:14 am 10:14 am

Again, if this is all anti-American,
how do you account for the others convicted who are not Americans?

Posted by: wis134 | December 6, 2009, 10:28 am 10:28 am

NEVER EVER be fooled by looks. Just because someone is young and sooooo sweet and innocent looking, does NOT mean to say they are. They are guilty. Accept that folks…. As for the trial being “anti-american”… What rubbish. One of the killers is Italian. They are both guilty, like it or not. Move on.

Posted by: janice byrne | December 6, 2009, 10:43 am 10:43 am

She was guilty.
This is a non-story.
She wanted to go to Italy. Now she gets to stay, gratis, for the next 26 years. Too bad. Sucks to be you, Knox. Don’t like it? Don’t murder someone.
Enjoy your Italian Stay-cation.

Posted by: Vicki | December 6, 2009, 10:46 am 10:46 am

She did the crime, she does the time. Guilty, guilty, guilty. The world doesn’t revolve around U.S. and its justice system. The countries of Europe have their brand of justice, and it works, no worse or better than U.S. Now if U.S. could step down from its high horse, and join the rest of humanity…

Posted by: bigelow | December 6, 2009, 11:02 am 11:02 am

Shame on Hillary! That was an awful comment she made on “This week with George Stephanopoulos.” If Chelsea was incarcerated for 2 years in Italy would she have any time to check into the situation. I’m appalled that she is too busy. Could she not ask her Husband ( who is still on the payroll ) to step in and help. I can’t imagine that something cannot be done internationally with an ally to help this family cope with this. I’m a parent and I can’t image the toll this has taken on the innocent people involved. Guilty or not guilty we as Americans need to support this family from the President on down. We can support the Banking system that has done more harm to all of us but can’t find the time to help Amanda Knox ( a young American girl ) in trouble. I will pray for her and her family. May God be with them in their time of need.

Posted by: Ron Miller | December 6, 2009, 11:09 am 11:09 am

I am shocked at all the people on here who complain about Americans putting their nose in to Italy’s justice system! Are you people serious??????? Every time we have to chase a murderer or sex offender to Europe, we have to negotiate for the return of our own citizens. Further, Europe certainly puts its nose in when its one of their own and its a capital offense!

Posted by: lovebugs | December 6, 2009, 11:19 am 11:19 am

And for those of you who are decrying the American justice system and its lawyers that you complain are sue happy, I will remind you that Amanda Knox didn’t even get a civil trial on the civil issues. Monetary damages were awarded to the Kercher family and the potential suspect she named in the same sentence that she was convicted in. Honestly, who the heck finds someone has committed defamation because they named someone in a police investigation. In this country, you are found liable only if you go straight to the newspapers and start chanting the name!

Posted by: lovebugs | December 6, 2009, 11:22 am 11:22 am

bigelow: Who has a high horse? Is there a higher horse than the one Europe rides? They continuously make requests on behalf of our own citizens when we extradite them and interfere whenever capital punishment is a potential punishment. Who closes its borders to our goods while insisting that we remain completely open to theirs? Who limits the amount of labor we import to their countries while demanding open access to our labor markets? EUROPE!

Posted by: lovebugs | December 6, 2009, 11:26 am 11:26 am

To all you people claiming anti-american sentimints had nothing to do with this I guess you werent there outside the court when the verdict was read and heard what the Italian people were all chanting. Why dosent someone findout and post it should be interesting to see someone on here accually do some research before posting

Posted by: Mike | December 6, 2009, 11:35 am 11:35 am

the only reason ms. knox has recieved all this attention is because she’s a cute girl who was accused, and found guilty of murder. if her attorney feels as if her conviction is tainted, he is free to appeal. the american government cannot get involved every time an american citizen is accused of committing a serious crime in another country.

Posted by: justsane | December 6, 2009, 11:45 am 11:45 am

All of this is very sad we will never know the truth of really went on because the law is really different there than here but as I have been saying and I will continue saying this why anybody visiting other countries have to stay out of trouble because for the most part other countries do not like Americans and they will throw the book at Americans when they step out of their laws and that is a fact.

Posted by: Carol | December 6, 2009, 11:56 am 11:56 am

It’s not uncommon for defendants to be frequently of murder on circumstancial evidence in the USA. There are two sides to every story and two lawyers — which side will the jury believe? That’s the way I see this case, nothing different from the rest.

Posted by: Robinho | December 6, 2009, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

Of course Secretary Clinton needs to raise the Knox issue to the Italians and pressure the Italians to release Knox to the US State Department. We don’t let our American citizens who carry an American passport to be held hostage by an inept and corrupt foreign Government. We don’t let our American’s rot in foreign prisons as well. You gotta wonder what would happen if Hillary Clinton was president and this happened under her watch. I would be very ashamed if the Obama Administration or the US state department failed to get Amanda Knox out of Italy.

Posted by: Nick | December 6, 2009, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

It’s not anti-American to convict a murdered who happens to be American.

Posted by: Elizabetta | December 6, 2009, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

“Amanda’s first known lie wasn’t to the police, but to her flatmate, Filomena, on 2 November, the day after Meredith’s murder.
Amanda phoned Filomena at 12.08 pm, and said she was worried about the front door being open and blood stains in the small bathroom.
Lie one. Amanda said she was going to call Raffaele, but according to Raffaele, Amanda had already returned to his apartment at 11.30 am, and then they had gone back to the cottage.
At 12.34 pm Amanda and Filomena spoke again. Filomena said, “We spoke to each other for the third time and she told me that the window in my room was broken and that my room was in a mess. At this point I asked her to call the police and she told me that she already had.”
Lie two. Amanda and Raffaele didn’t actually call the police until 12.51 pm.
The postal postal police unexpectedly turned up at the cottage at 12. 35 pm.
Lie three. Amanda and Raffael told the police that they had called the police and were waiting for them.
Lie four. Amanda told the postal police that Meredith always kept her door locked. Filomena strongly disagreed with her, and told the postal police the opposite was true.
Amanda and Raffaele were then taken in for questioning.
Lie five. They said they couldn’t remember most of what happened on the night of the murder, because they had smoked cannabis.
It is medically impossible for cannabis to cause such dramatic amnesia and there are no studies that have ever demonstrated that this is possible.
Long term use of cannabis may affect short term memory, which means that users might have difficulty recalling a telephone number. But it won’t wipe out whole chunks of an evening from their memory banks.
Lie six. Amanda accused Diya Lumumba of murdering Meredith at the cottage.
It’s true that two of Amanda’s such statements were thrown out by the Italian Supreme Court. However, Amanda repeated the accusation, in a note that she wrote to the police on 6 November.
This note was not thrown out by the Italian Supreme Court, and it was admitted as evidence.
Lies seven and eight. In her 6 November note Amanda claimed to have seen Diya Lumumba at the basketball court at Piazza Grimana; and outside her front door. He was actually at his bar.
Line nine. Amanda’s supporters claim that she confessed to a lesser role in Meredith’s murder, and blamed Diya Lumumba, because she had been “smacked around” or put under pressure by the police.
But the real reason she had to say she was at the cottage was because she was informed that Raffaele Sollecito was no longer providing her with an alibi.
Raffaele had been confronted with phone records, and was now claiming that she was not with him the whole evening, and that she had only returned at 1.00 am. Amanda did not attempt to refute Raffaele’s claim, but now admitted that she had been at the cottage.
The significance of this about-turn cannot be stressed enough.
(Incidentally, Raffaele was also claiming that he had lied, because he had believed Amanda’s version of what happened and not thought about the inconsistencies. He is acknowledging that Amanda’s version had inconsistencies.)
If it had been true that Amanda had been “smacked around” by the police during questioning, why haven’t her lawyers ever filed a complaint? It was very telling that Amanda dropped her allegation of being hit by the police at her recent court hearing, and instead just claimed she had been put under pressure.
There’s a world of difference between police brutality and being put under pressure. It wasn’t the first time that Amanda has made a false and malicious accusation, as Diya Lumumba knows only too well.
Lie ten. Amanda claimed to have slept in at Raffaele’s until the next morning. However, her mobile records show that this was not so. Amanda turned on her mobile at approximately at 5.32 am.
The only plausible explanation for Amanda’s deliberate and repeated lies? That she was involved in the murder of Meredith Kercher.

Posted by: Legal Eagle | December 6, 2009, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm

we send thousands of italian boys to afghanistan and iraq and we are anti-american. we have several american military bases in defiance of our constitutions and we are anti-american. a trial condemn an italian and his american girlfriend for murder (the italian for one year more) and we are anti-american. well, IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN CAUSE ANTI-AMERICAN SENTIMENT IS EXACTLY THIS KIND OF ARROGANCE ABOUT A FRIENDLY PEOPLE. THANX

Posted by: giorgio s. | December 6, 2009, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

A senator of the US claiming anti-Americanism by Italians! Really? And George Stephanopoulos asks Clinton if she shares the same feelings as the senator and if she has intervened with the Italian Government. Italy for the Americans information is an independent state with laws which are as good as any other Western state and perhaps Americans should start respecting the fact that just because you are an American it does not make you immune of the laws of the country you are living in or visiting. In simple words please Get A Life.

Posted by: An Italian in shock | December 6, 2009, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

Hello! I’m italian. The americans who believe in this anti-americanism stuff are simply r-i-d-i-c-u-l-o-u-s!! We are very sad and upset by all these suppositions. I’d also like to remind you that her ITALIAN boyfriend was convicted…What: are we to be blamed for anti-italianism? She’s a murderer and she deserves what she got! Long live the intelligent americans!!!

Posted by: Giovanni | December 6, 2009, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

There is one more thing I have to say about case these children that go to other countries represent all of us in the United States and when they get into trouble as they do like in this case being that murder is involved that makes all of US look very bad.
As it is other countries don’t think we have our children under control and we have wild children that have no respect of PERSON, PLACE and THING and they feel they are right.
I am embrassed to think they think this because of this case that all our children murder and cause mayhem it not true but don’t forget how people think.
The whole thing is as soon as this child got away from her parents she seemed to enjoy drinking getting drunk and finding a boyfriend that seemed to do the same so you have to be careful what company you keep no matter where you are and that is a fact.
I know this case was handled badly but she didn’t help herself at all kissing her boyfriend right after this horrible murder of her friend it just didn’t and that is a fact.
Some how I don’t think her parents didn’t teach her manners because she didn’t seem to have them when she needed them the most but that is the way I feel.

Posted by: Carol | December 6, 2009, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

i’m italian and i dont understand why there are so many discussions about a murder just because there’s an american citizen involved. In Italy a tribunal doesn’t put people in jail with no reason and anyway we have three judicial step this is only the first. It’s also funny to hear people talking about antiamericanism feelings in Italy perhaps a few people but is just a minority (and they are not considered by the judges), i also heard some disappointment about the verdict, i think the judges decided not for the life sentence even if knox and sollecito are guilty just because they are too young to spend an entire life in prison, it wouldn’t be justice but only revenge, anyway 25 years is long period.

Posted by: Marco | December 6, 2009, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

Hey, you who DON’T CARE about helping this young girl, how would you feel if this was your daughter?! HUH? This girl is not a killer and neither is her boyfriend. Anyone that believes they are have sick EVIL minds! This Hillary, who WE PAY, doesn’t have the time to help her, AWWWWWW and this is a woman who told everyone that we Americans are “bad”! She should be prosecuted NOT Amanda!

Posted by: Ann | December 6, 2009, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

Italia is our staunchest ally, number 3 in casualties in Iraq and some idiot senator has no shame to suggest Italian jury convicts innocent Americans just because they are “Anti-American” ????

Posted by: Alex | December 6, 2009, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

It is not for us to dictate to Italy or any other democracy how to conduct their criminal trials, any more than other countries have a right to dictate to us how to conduct criminal trials. Knox had a fair trial under the Italian judicial system. Under our system, she might have been acquitted. Or not. This isn’t a diplomatic matter, this is a criminal justice matter, and Clinton should NOT get involved. Would we reverse a conviction of an Italian under our judicial system if Italy’s ambassador demanded it? I doubt it. Knox has the right to appeal her conviction, and she will. And maybe while she’s waiting, she might think about telling the REAL truth about what happened that night because she hasn’t done so up to now. She and her Italian BF have told all kinds of stories, none of which check out.

Posted by: windrider | December 6, 2009, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

NO, she DID NOT HAVE A FAIR TRIAL. READ ABOUT IT! There is “no proof”whatsoever that she killed her! The prosecutor, literally made up a story and the jurors fell for it! Why? Either their prejudice against America or they are truely DUMB.Take your pick. Now, let’s get Hillary to do HER JOB,and get this girl out of this hellhole,NOW………

Posted by: Ann | December 6, 2009, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

Do we also expect the State department to demand the freedom of several American servicemen currently service a prison sentence in Japan for the gang rape of a schoolgirl? Or for a few idiot American citizens who are currently serving prison sentences overseas for drug smuggling, child rape or any other serious crimes?
The State Department’s responsibility lies in making sure that the rights of American citizens are protected, that any legal proceedings be transparent and reasonably fair. Italy’s system may be different that ours in the US, but what most people here fail to understand is that Knox’s cause will automatically be appealed after 90 days when the final written statements are released to the public by the judge and basically her entire case can be reargued. Her rights to appeal in Italy are far more lenient than appeal rights in the US are, and she can appeal all the way to the Italian Supreme Court which is obligated to accept the case.
Being an American overseas does not mean automatic immunity from legal prosecution if accused of a serious crime. When you are traveling and are given a visa to visit another country, you are accepting that you must follow the laws of that country. If you commit a serious crime, you can be prosecuted under the courts of that country. Unless you are in a country where human rights are no respected and there is no transparency to the legal system (like North Korea), don’t expect the State Department to make more than a cursory inquirey into your situation.
Knox dug her own grave here. Her behavior directly after the murder of her roommate was certainly perplexing for a young woman who’s friend had just been murdered. She changed her story multiple times and even accused an innocent man of being involved in the crime. The jury found enough evidence that she was involved in the murder, both circumstancial and forensic. There are many people serving prison time in the US convicted of far less evidence than was presented in Knox’s case.

Posted by: Ravanne | December 6, 2009, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

I THINK SHE DID NOT DO IT AND THE TRIAL IS A JOKE OVER THERE IN ITLAY. THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT FAIR IS AND ABOUT ALL THE EVIDENCE THEY DID NOT HAVE. CLINTON SHOULD GET ON THE BALL AND HELP THESE AMERICAN PEOPLE OUT. IF IT WAS A PERSON WITH MONEY AND A BIG NAME THEY WOULD BE ON IT.

Posted by: Bonnie | December 6, 2009, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

The Knox girl was in Italy where the murder took place and was tried under Italian law. It is somewhat arrogant of Americans to just assume that she did not get a fair trial because she is an American and/or the Italian courts do not function well. And, Greg, murder is very different from mistakenly crossing a border.

Posted by: BachisBest | December 6, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

i certainly hope that all the posters here who are so concerned about amanda knox are also spending their time advocating for the innocent men and women who are rotting in american prisons because they had lousy lawyers, or evidence against them was manufactured or tainted, or who were bullied into confessions by cops who just wanted to close a case.
i said it in an earlier post, but it bears repeating: amanda knox is getting all this attention because she is a cute white girl. (and i would guess that her parents have money.) if she was unattractive, or overweight, or dare i say it, black, you can bet that nobody would have ever heard of her.
americans have an amazing ability to focus on micro-issues. this is ONE girl. there are untold numbers of innocent americans in prison right here at home, but they get less than short shrift. we hear about them maybe once a year in a 60 minutes segment, or something similar. if you honestly believe that a corrupt and biased legal system is responsible for the conviction of ms. knox, please take that righteous anger and use it to help free the innocent right here at home, who are victims of the same problem.

Posted by: justsane | December 6, 2009, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

Sec’y Clinton should not get involved, or we will be exposing ourselves to tough questions about how America executes juvenile, has the highest incarceration rate in the western world, and the ability to “buy” acquittals with high-powered lawyers in an extremely technical justice system. For the U.S. to lecture Italy about criminal justice would be like Libya lecturing us about human rights – tainted by hypocrisy.

Posted by: lampwriter51 | December 6, 2009, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

The Clinton also has doubts on the Cermis or case Calipari?
Or where everything is clarified, and all is well?
The Clinton could explain it to relatives and friends of 20 dead of the Cermis tragedy.

Posted by: guiseppe saviola | December 6, 2009, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

this is so hilarious. hillary thinks she has the power to overturn the italian justice system and their verdict/punishment assigned in this case??lol. sounds like she has obama’s godline complex, must be contagious. its gonna be so embarrasing to HRC when the italian authiorities laugh in her face and possibly throw an italian curse or two at her. hope the press is there to cover that!

Posted by: realman1963 | December 6, 2009, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

There is a victim here and it isn’t Amanda Knox. She wasn’t a student, she had dropped out and was working in a coffee house playng with Euro trash and drugs. She and her lover killed her roommate because Meredith objected to Knox dragging men in and out of the house at all hours. There was more then enough evidence to convict her. Furthermore she deliberately lied and tried to get an innocent man blamed. Yes it is a tragedy that she will spend years in prison but at least she is alive.

Posted by: GypsyDani | December 6, 2009, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

Umm Greg to compare the girls who STEPPED on some North Korean land to a girl who is accused of murdering her roomate is silly. There was noone hurt in by what the girls did in North Korea and in fact it was Al gore who sent them to do what they did of course we have to help get them home, We did tell that girl to murder her roomate, Hillary shouldnt waste her time with this.

Posted by: rachel | December 6, 2009, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

Lovebugs: where do you get all this nutty information?
Give me ONE example and I’ll eat crow and apolozise
to you. Remember, though: I read foreign papers, also, for comparison, and you are waaayyy off!
I am waiting…..

Posted by: 2smart4u | December 6, 2009, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

Carol, I do not know how often you traveled out of your country, but as long as you stay in Europe and obey the laws, you have nothing to fear. You can do
pretty much what you please, unless, of course,
you decide to kill someone. Then you pay the consequence, just like everywhere else. Ms. Knox is cute and she probably had everyone tied around her little finger all her life. If she had been less attractive
and less attention seeking, this page would not even exist and no one would waste their time with comments.

Posted by: 2smart4u | December 6, 2009, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

It would be inappropriate for Clinton to try to influence the Italians regarding the Knox verdict. From what I’ve seen, she looks pretty guilty, and I’m an American so that’s not based on anti-American sentiment.

Posted by: Elizabetta | December 6, 2009, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Can we send huckabee over there to help ?

Posted by: Hawk | December 6, 2009, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

It is eye-opening to read the British papers because they present a much fuller account of the trial and the evidence than the American media. I wasn’t at all convinced of her guilt until I started reading accounts of what happened at the trial. The storeowner who recognized her as purchasing cleaning products at the time she said she was at her BF’s…. the bloody footprint that matched her shoe…. and, yes, the lies and changes in story.
I do think it possible that Amanda & Raf. have blurred or incomplete memories of what really happened, depending on how much alcohol they mixed with the drugs. Not remembering would allow them to believe genuinely that they are innocent.
But, given the bleach and the cleaning, they were much more calculating than the American press is letting on. I can’t help but wonder if they did manage to clean the room in some fashion, and afterward sent Guede in so he was the last person there, and his DNA would remain. He was reportedly attracted to her and willing to do things she asked. He apparently held towels on Meredith’s wound to try to staunch the bleeding after the other 2 had left.
The British press has copies of Amanda’s prison diary, and from her writing emerges a profile of a young woman thoroughly enjoying her fame and celebrity. Her diary is a bit chilling, actually.
I’m more inclined to think the “sociopath” idea is a real possibility — certainly a narcissistic personality. Such personalities can be extremely adept at fooling family & friends around them, for years at a time.
The buying the cleaning products, staging the burglary, the acting she did- not only in the police station but on the phone to her own mother, claiming to be upset because of a burglary in the house. I had started out convinced of her innocence, but no longer.

Posted by: Pam211 | December 6, 2009, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Amanda Knox is a compulsive liar, an unrepentant murderer and a sociopath. She should never see the light of day. Who is stupid enough to advocate for American politicians to get involved in trying to bring this psycho back to the US? Let her rot in an Italian prison.

Posted by: Elizabetta | December 6, 2009, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

This is NOT a case of anti-Americanism. If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime. If the Italian courts found her guilty, then she needs to deal with the system within that country.

Posted by: jmb | December 6, 2009, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

The crime for which Amanda Knox was found guilty would have landed the same punishment as it would have been in the USA. The US did everything possible to ensure that Amanda Knox received the same support as would any other citizen. It is not an issue between Italy and the US and the state department has no jurisdiction. I am sure Berlusconni would pardon her some time or allow the rest of the sentence to be completed in the USA but let this be a lesson to everyone if you break the law of another independent country which is not a banana republic then you face the legal procedure of that country and not the USA.

Posted by: gjkotw01 | December 6, 2009, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

King said
“Miss Knox’s co-defendant is Italian and was also found guilty so anti Americanism couldn’t possibly be at play.” Please go back to school and learn the basics of logic. What you said is so fallacious it is awkward. Please. Evolve.

Posted by: Pardonson | December 6, 2009, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

I’m an American citizen and I’m embarrassed that a U.S. Congress person has accused an Italian court of bias due to anti-Americanism. No matter what one’s private feelings (and I wholeheartedly disagree with the accusation), one certainly doesn’t say it publicly. It’s inflammatory, it antagonizes another nation, and it will do nothing to reduce any anti-American sentiment around the world. What she said is not representative of all Americans. I sincerely hope the American politicians stay out of it.
I imagine Mrs. Clinton knew a great deal more about the case than she admitted; she side-stepped any public statement by claiming other business. She knows as well as anyone it would be inappropriate to interfere. We do not know the full extent of the Italian court’s reasoning. Until they make their reasoning public, I suggest that we exercise some restraint. The Italian court is required by their law to make a public declaration of the reasoning within 3 months’ time. Ms. Knox did not conduct herself well; her behavior brought suspicion upon herself. Let us show that we are a nation of laws, and listen to the court’s arguments in their entirety.

Posted by: TMRobson | December 6, 2009, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

‘The well-being of the many outweigh that of the few.’
Of course, she has no comment. She would have to go over a years worth of trial data…after getting it translated.

Posted by: tendergroins | December 6, 2009, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

I’ve been following this horrific case for about a year now, and it seems like the media is no longer reporting the evidence.
Her family hired a PR agency to obscure the truth with a cry for action.
At first she testified and said she heard the victim’s screams, then she said that night she was at her boyfriends.
The day after the murder, before the police were told, she searched “blood bleach” on her computer.
LAST I HEARD WAS WHEN YOUR FRIEND IS MURDERED, YOU CALL THE POLICE IMMEDIATELY AND DO NOT CLEAN UP THE EVIDENCE.
This is remarkably similar to the search in the murder of Caylee Anthony, remember?
We can’t allow rich people to get away scot free of crimes they commit just because they can obscure the truth.
THIS ISN’T ABOUT ANTI-AMERICANISM, IT’S ABOUT PRO-JUSTICE. A couple years back to European basketball players beat a student into a coma, then fled the U.S. with the help of an ambassador, while we were actively trying to apprehend them. DO WE WANT TO BE LIKE THEM? THIS GIRL IS A MURDERER. EYEWITNESSES HAVE TESTIFIED, 3, AND ARE CURRENTLY SERVING THEIR SENTENCES. WHY SHOULD THE ONE RESPONSIBLE BE ACQUITTED?

Posted by: james handel | December 6, 2009, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Wayne… They bought their tickets. They knew what they were getting into…
I say let them crash.

Posted by: Ralph | December 6, 2009, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

For those who say there was zero proof-
Amanda Knox’s DNA was found on one of the murder weapons.
Hers and Rafaelle’s bloody footprints were found in the house.
Rafaelle’s DNA was found on the bra clasp.

Posted by: S Thomas | December 6, 2009, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

she is guilty make her do her time

Posted by: shawn8840 | December 6, 2009, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

It is YOU guys who are anti-American. You have perverted the justice system by letting obvious criminals on the streets.You have gotten so use to it that it seems to be normal that a murderer can walk the streets after 4 years of prison time.Luckly there are places where justice is what it is meant to be and no “glove don’t fit” absurdity will pollute healthy societies.

Posted by: JD Brahms | December 6, 2009, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

The Italians wouldl probably agree to swap Knox for the CIA operatives convicted a few months ago for kidnapping but I doubt the US government would be willing to do that.

Posted by: Bob | December 6, 2009, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

TMRobson, I am also embarrassed that Senator Cantwell in her statement shows she believes Amanda Knox’s story about Italian police brutality. That’s a public insult to Italian professionals, based on this young woman’s constantly changing lies. I believe the record shows Amanda Knox was questioned for a mere 2 hours (not the alleged 14) before giving up her boss’s name as the killer. WHY is the Senator showing herself so naive as to believe Amanda Knox? This young woman has lied and lied, changing her story whenever it is shown to her that what she says cannot be true. The Senator is clearly caught up in the emotional reaction of the people who know Amanda Knox only as the good Catholic school girl. She’s responding to her constituency, I’m sure, but it puts Americans in a very bad light. I hope Clinton has more sense than to get involved. I’m just sorry the U.S. was represented abroad by Amanda Knox.

Posted by: SharonLK | December 6, 2009, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

If she is really innocent then I am sure that new evidence will be found.
At least she won’t die accidentally in jail or be gassed or electrocuted.
I don’t really see what else the italian justice system could have done except to convict her on the overwhelming circumstantial evidence.
Lucky she wasn’t male,there would have been no questions asked.

Posted by: michael savell | December 6, 2009, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

Regardless of how long the US stays Afghanistan will revert back as thousands of years of their history have proven, you can’t win, be victorious or anything of the such, any sane person would see when facing such a thing you need to cut you losses and get the h-ll out while you can.

Posted by: CC | December 6, 2009, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

Despite the objections raised by her family about the Italian justice system, etc., it is strange that this Knox trial has attracted so much international attention

Posted by: Eric Davidson | December 6, 2009, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

The only reason this is getting attention is because we refuse to believe a white american female could have done this, so of course government get involved. I’m sorry but this not a state department matter, her parents need to get her better lawyers if they think she is innocent.

Posted by: darin brown | December 6, 2009, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

this young girl was railroaded..the American gov’t must get involved..this is an innocent girl from America…I expect my tax money to go to situations like this where WE MUST protect our own, and get DIRECTLY involved to help the Knox family…Ms Clinton …get involved..what if this was Chelsea

Posted by: Judy | December 6, 2009, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

This verdict is outrageous. There is very little evidence at all that connects Amanda Knox to the scene of the crime. her story changed ONCE while she was being interrogated for HOURS by violent interrogators, and the “evidence” was all grossly mishandled anyway. Read the facts. More americans should be outraged by this. Read the afterword in The Monster of Florence by Douglas Preston. The same prosecutor handling the Knox case in Italy is responsible for terrorizing Mr. Preston. Justice needs to be found for Amanda! I strongly believe she is innocent!

Posted by: Estefani | December 6, 2009, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

I became aware of the Amanda Knox story only recently, during the last news cycle. I am no expert on the case but from what I can tell she is an innocent victim of a group of overly zealous prosecutors that for what ever reason had it in for her from the very beginning. This would not be the first time that prosecutors and powers surrounding prosecutors have committed themselves to a verdict without ample evidence to prove the case. Let me make a few observations:
1. If Amanda had taken part in the murder, in my opinion there would have been a huge amount of evidence against her. A murder of this sort is messy. Drugs, sex, ritual, and knifing make for a huge amount of evidence. How can the prosecutors explain away the lack of DNA and other evidence? The only way to explain this would be to make the claim that Amanda and her boyfriend had carefully planned the murder ahead of time and figured out how to destroy all the evidence that goes along with a crime of this sort. Not likely when you think of the fact that Amanda is a 22 years old girl, was not in her country, and had no previous run-ins with the law. Add to that the wonderful character testimony from people that knew Amanda well and had been around her much of her life. Additionally, in order for Amanda to have committed this horrendous crime there would have had to be evidence of a deviant person with some sort of traumatic childhood. There is no evidence of this sort, much to the contrary all evidence is pointing to a normal child with a normal childhood that came from a functional family. Considering these facts, the possibility that Amanda is a psychopathic murderer is very far-fetched.
2. The kind of evidence that was allowed into the Italian court in this case should be an embarrassment to their judicial system. They allowed hearsay evidence that ultimately had the effect of assassinating Amanda’s character. The jurors were not sequestered and therefore were allowed to absorb the local community’s prejudices against Amanda and bring these sentiments into the decision making process. How different is this from the witch hunts and stonings that took place in our history before we had a judicial process?
3. The prosecution created a contrived animated video of the murder the way they perceived it was committed and embedded the video with real pictures from the crime scene and then showed this as evidence to the to the jury. If this were the way to conduct a trial prosecutors could determine the outcome of any case. The purpose of a trial is to determine whether someone is innocent or guilty not to fix a predetermined outcome.
4. Consider Amanda’s behavior over the last two years that she has been incarcerated. She has been a model prisoner and has shown no signs of having a deviant personality. She has made close friends in prison and was comforted by both prisoners and guards after her guilty verdict. The prisoners and guards often know better then anyone who they are dealing with. They have observed her on a daily basis and have a better intuitive sense of who Amanda is then the local media or the prosecutors that mishandled her case.
In conclusion I would say that it seems to me that in Italy when someone is accused of a crime he or she is guilty before proven innocent and not the other way around. What ever happened to proving a case beyond a reasonable doubt? What perplexes me are some of the viscous comments made above. Just imagine facing a 24 year sentence for something you didn’t do. Or even worse, imagine this happening to your daughter? What has happened to civility in our world? Amanda, God bless you. I pray for your success in appealing this horrendous case.

Posted by: Andy | December 6, 2009, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

Per another blogger on another site:
” – - Attention in the U.S. has been focused on Amanda. Let us not forget, her most recent lover, Italian favorite son Sollecito (member of a wealthy and influential Bari family) was also convicted of murder. Unlike the U.S., perhaps the Italian legal system placed all the accused murders on an even playing field. Yes, the Congolese, the rich Italian, the pretty American all got the sentence they deserved. Killers and families of killers always look for a way to beat the system, then cry foul when they have to pay the dues. There is only one loser in this outcome, and it is NOT Amanda Knox……………it is the Kercher Family and the loss of their beloved daughter and sister” As stated before and by others: “When in Rome – Do as the Romans do” If in fact she did this crime in Italy, she has to be judged by the Italian judicial and crime lab system albeit it may not be similar to USA. – There is no DO OVER in life vs death.

Posted by: Kahoohanohano | December 6, 2009, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

Not zero proof but hundred times more evidence than for Scott Peterson, for example. Yes, I know the arguments that “This cannot be murder weapon because defense says it is not”, “This cannot be Merediths DNA because defense says amount was small”, every US murder defense makes these kind of silly statements and no one pays any attention.

Posted by: Alex | December 7, 2009, 3:51 am 3:51 am

Is this another anti-American fiasco or will this too turn into another Clinton (Bill or Hillary) solo act of heroism?

Posted by: LoveAt350,com | December 7, 2009, 6:33 am 6:33 am

I’m Italian, writing from Italy.
I’m quite surprised to hear Sen Cantwell argumenting “anti-Americanism”.
Our judicial system is pn fault just because it’s clogged with too many trials. But I don’t think Amanda Knox case was “ill-treated”.
First: In a civil-law system the judge only apply the law. The presence of a popular jury is a guarantee only for important trials.
Second: this is the 1st grade of judgement and here in Italy everybody is to be supposed innocent until the 3rd grade.
Third: we don’t have death penalty nor life prison. And 26 years usually become much less actually spent in jail.
Finally: to those who invoke “boycott Italy” I ask: If Meredith was American and Amanda was British would you still think the same? Really?

Posted by: Renzo M | December 7, 2009, 7:33 am 7:33 am

I think it’s pretty sad that of all the countries and colleges in the world, Amanda chose a college in Italy to further her studies….and unfortunately she was set up. It was so obvious but yet they were blind to all other leads and wanted to convict the American. Well you know….because of that, because of the 3 hikers that have yet to be release in the middle east, I will never travel overseas, nor will I ever let my children experience the world because once you leave the good old USA, especially as a young, naive unsuspecting college student, your well being and best interests are not secure. I think Americans need to boycott overseas travel. Shame on the Italian government. And to think I dreamed over some day going to Italy to trace my family roots. Not a chance now. I’d rather trace my English/Scottish roots.

Posted by: pamomof2 | December 7, 2009, 7:44 am 7:44 am

SOS Clinton has not done anything for the Father who’s son is still stuck in Brazil or the parent with the same type of problem in Italy. Expect nothing and you won’t be disappointed.

Posted by: Willie12345 | December 7, 2009, 9:03 am 9:03 am

To everyone that thinks there is zero evidence against Knox: go to wikipedia and read about Ketcher Murder. As a mother of three I feel sorry about Amanda’s parents, but I think they went too far trying to clear up their dauther through the US media. Hoping to effect the trial they hired american PR firm to convince american people of Amanda’s innocence by promoting the idea of innocent child in the cruel foreing country. Amanda’s parents keep lying to us about zero evidence. There are too much evidence of Amanda’s guilt.. unfortunately.

Posted by: Lisa | December 7, 2009, 9:44 am 9:44 am

This was a criminal case, Italy has an appeals process in place and Knox’s attorneys are on the job. There’s no reason for politicians to get involved.

Posted by: Cassandra | December 7, 2009, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

I shouldn’t be surprised that Ms Knox’s conviction is being blamed on Obama…after all, isn’t he the cause of everything in the world according to the paranoid people who see conspiracies around every corner. I love the way people, who really know NOTHING about the case, make definitive statements about the merits. As far as I can read, this woman committed murder, was tried fairly and convicted. Where do you find “anti-Americanism?” Just because an American committed a crime in another country, was tried and convicted doesn’t mean there was anti-Americanism at play…it just means that she’s a murderer.

Posted by: leogorky | December 7, 2009, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

We have one of the most ridiculous justice systems in the world where justice is doled out according to who you are and how much money you have. Who are we to gripe about the Italians?

Posted by: leogorky | December 7, 2009, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

EN: support your allegations with facts. I bet you can’t.

Posted by: leogorky | December 7, 2009, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

Brian Young: please support your facts with documentation. You seem to have information that no one else has yet.

Posted by: leogorky | December 7, 2009, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

I’m a European citizen (not British, not Italian), and I’ve followed the process against Amanda and Raffaele for 1½ year.
It is my opinion that Amanda and Raffaele got a fair trial, and the conviction of Amanda was not a matter of anti-American feelings.
Two things are mixed up in the comments on this blog: one thing is ant-American feelings, another is the Italian system of justice.
It is not a surprise that US-citizens prefer their own juridical system to others, but please remember that US is not the benchmark standard of juridical systems in the world (for many obvious reason)s. The Italian system are different, but that does not mean less just. In Italy people are innocent until proven guilty – as in US – but other feature of the system differs.
Italy adheres to Roman law; which has different practices from common law (UK, US, etc). All of Europe has Roman law, but with variations among countries.
- In Italy, the trial is not every day, but 2-3-4 days a week. Different from US, but not lesser in terms of justice, as long and repeated learning sequences enforces understanding.
- In Italy, the jury is 2 professional judges and six lay judges, careful selected among people who have an education which makes them able to understand the complex evidence (like DNA, computer, fingerprints, statistics, etc). This reduces the possibility of scientific manipulation of jurors. Different, but not lesser than US.
- In Italy, the police is not acting for the state, but presents and argues the case, and the judges (Magistrate) can choose to agree with the police understanding of the case or not. In the pre-trial, the Judges prepare their own arguments for raises a case (or not), and likewise they present in writing the logic of the case and conviction as they see it (Likewise does the jury present in writing a reasoned outline of their verdict.) Different, but not lesser than US-system.
- In Italy the jury is not sequestered, but can get information from other than the parts in the case. This prevents overdue manipulation from the establishment of the court. Different, but not lesser than US-system.
- In Italy, the accused are allowed to give spontaneous comments in the court. Different, but not lesser than the US-system.
- … and much more.
The absolute majority of people speaking up on the blogs in US, and mocking Italy and the Italian system of justice, have clearly no knowledge of the judicial system of Italy. Sadly. Would be nice if you valued knowledge at least a par with opinion.
Nano

Posted by: Nano | December 7, 2009, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

I fully believe Knox is guilty, and I believe she got a fair trial.
I am somewhat surprised (although I shouldn’t be perhaps) at all of the misguided, sloppy sympathy she is getting in the American “mainstream” press.
It is both lame and sad, and even inanely provincial.
My sympathy lies with the Kercher family, nearly totally.The very best to them.

Posted by: JZBlueDog | December 7, 2009, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

Thank goodness. Mrs. Clinton, please do not interfere. It will hurt our image and stature irreparably if you even suggest political interference. We are already being vilified across Europe for our arrogance.
I’m utterly disenchanted with American media. The reporting on this case has been so biased, and so scant! (Was the sympathy stance for ratings?)
So many people — journalists included — are protesting the verdict so confidently — without having read the trial transcripts.
People will believe any sound byte the media provides. God help us if our politicians do, too.
I think there’s no question but that the professional PR firm hired by the Knox family has tainted our media. I just hope that our friends abroad understand that what they’re hearing are the wheels of PR machinery.
Most Americans believe Ms. Knox is exactly where she belongs; and we’re grateful to the Italian court for making a difficult decision, and for being merciful. If only it could end there. But if the Knox family throws money around, they will get heard. Doesn’t anyone understand that it’s natural for the family of the condemned to be in denial?

Posted by: EAmes | December 7, 2009, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

Why hasn’t U.S. media shown all the cleaning up she did. The purchase of bleach & cleaning supplies (when she says she was sleeping at Soll’s) & the bleach on the knife — in Soll’s apartment.
Of course there was none of her DNA in the room. She’d been cleaning frantically. The clothes were in the spin cycle in the washer.
She was caught cleaning up the scene by the police investigating the thrown-out cell phone.
We’re looking very bad to an international audience, folks.

Posted by: Eric | December 7, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm

I’m an Italian living in the USA for 3 years and I can tell you that Italians are NOT anti-American at all (infact I married one!) Watching the interview made me really upset. I just want to remind the people who were interviewed that ALSO Amanda’s boyfriend, which…oops is Italian, was sentenced for 25 years. The jury does not take things lightly. Everything is not all about money and the attorneys are not into suing everybody for the stupidest reason to make more money. (just look at their commercials on tv) I still remember in 1998, after a U.S. Marine jet sliced a ski gondola’s cables in northern Italy killing 20 people, a U.S. military jury acquitted the pilot of manslaughter. (The pilot was later sentenced to six months in jail and was dismissed from the Marines for helping to destroy a videotape of the flight.) Do you think that sentence was fair? No! 20 people died and he spent 6 MONTHS in jail.
And then when the blond lady (sorry I dont know her name) said “you dont want to get in trouble in Italy”…c’mon now…if there is a place where you should be afraid of getting in trouble is in the US…how many times did you see on the news police using the teaser gun against harmless elderly women when stopped with their car?
I didnt really follow the case so much..but I can tell you something for sure: if she is guilty as it seems, most likely (if not surely) she will be out of jail in half of the time..all she has to do is to show a good conduct..

Posted by: downtoearth | December 7, 2009, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

I’m going to send Hillary Clinton an email requesting her to look into this matter and do something about it. For what ever my effort may be worth. Does anyone know where to find the correct email address for Hillary?

Posted by: Dude | December 7, 2009, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

As an English man reading through these comments it has become clear to me that those that think Knox is guilty are far more intelligent than those that think she is innocent.
The ‘she is guilty’ crowd write coherent sentences and deal with the facts.
The ‘She is innocent’ crowd just keep repeating the same old discredited excuses, continue to spout completley factually incorrect statements, cherry pick what evidence is relevant, ignore anything that does not support there arguments, use ‘caps lock’ far too much and can barely spell.
I think this shows how intelligent people see the value of research and facts when coming to conclusions. On the flip side the stupid work on emotion and prejudice only, with no regards for the facts.
If this were not a grisly sexual assault and murder of a young girl I might be amused that the people accusing Italy/Europe of prejudice are clearly the ones who are prejudiced themselves.

Posted by: Justin | December 8, 2009, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

The people that say she is guilty, beyond reasonable doubt, obviously did NOT faithfully follow this trial. There is NO WAY she would have been convicted of murder here in the US…never! There is NO evidence connecting here to the room the murder took place, none, and to be guilty of murder or 100% proven guilty of murder you have to be placed at the murder scene during the time the murder took place. Simple: They did not have that evidence! So Sad for her family and that of the murder victim.

Posted by: Jamie | December 9, 2009, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

I am sure that if Hillary brings the Knox case up, the Italians will bring up the convictions of the many CIA operatives who illegally seized people on Italian soil.
That and the fact that so many people in the US are exonerated for murders and rapes that they did not commit, yet were handed sentences and blasted for the seriousness of the crimes. These people were not exonerated by the US justice system, but by law students and lawyers working pro-bono (for free).

Posted by: happytravelling | December 11, 2009, 5:15 am 5:15 am

If Amanda Knox is not set free the United States MUST go in and set her free!

Posted by: June | October 3, 2011, 10:36 am 10:36 am

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