By Lindsey Ellerson

Dec 18, 2009 5:47pm

High Drama in Copenhagen (per Administration Officials)

Senior Obama administration officials describe quite a dramatic scene at Climate Change Conference.


Officials say President Obama was frustrated. The conference was in complete chaos.


At about 730 pm Denmark time – the president was supposed to have left an hour before — he learned that Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao, with whom he was supposed to meet, was meeting with the leaders of India, South Africa, and Brazil – the main players holding up any sort of political agreement.


The president heard about this and said he wanted to go to the meeting.


“Four against one,” an official said to the president.


“No problem,” he replied.


A senior administration official says the president “barged into the meeting,” where he joined China’s Wen, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, Brazil’s President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, and South Africa’s President Jacob Zuma.


The reporters’ pool note from that time said that President Obama walked into the room and called out from the door, “Mr. Premier, are you ready to see me? Are you ready?”


They talked for roughly 45 minutes and emerged with a non-binding political accord.

It is a modest achievement, officials concede, but they insist it is an achievement nonetheless.


“It is undeniably a step forward,” said an official. “Is it two steps forward? I’m not making that case.”


The president was unable to get the four leaders to commit to a deadline of 2010 for a legally binding international climate change treaty. South Africa and Brazil have an ensured capital flow under the Kyoto Protocol, which expires at the end of 2012, so they balked at giving that up until they knew what they’d be giving it up for.


What does the accord accomplish?


• All signatories will agree to slow global warming by allowing a temperature increase of no more than 2 degrees Celsius by 2050. How emission reductions will be achieved will be dictated by science –  theoretically this could require greenhouse gas emission cuts of more than 50 percent.


• In terms of verification – what the Chinese in particular had been resisting – all countries will commit to publicly list the actions they will take to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and they commit to a mechanism for some sort of public verification.


• Countries will consult with an international mechanism which will analyze their progress against a clear guideline as to whether they are abiding by their agreements.


Obviously the devil is in the details and we are still awaiting those details.


-jpt

User Comments

So how much will the breakthrough cost taxpayers?
I’m guessing Obama would promise anything rather than come back from Copenhagen emptyhanded again.
And like his Health Care bill, it doesn’t matter how crappy it is–Obama will brag about making history.

Posted by: tyler | December 18, 2009, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

Our Superhero saves the day! Isn’t he just wonderful?
Ridiculous. The spin continues as the WH does everything possible to salvage something from this otherwise unfruitful visit.

Posted by: tjp612 | December 18, 2009, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

Wow! Do we have a president or a superhero?

Posted by: Elle | December 18, 2009, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

I’m grateful that Obama got four other nations to consider discussing unprecedented preparations to possibly advance conversations about a non-binding framework.
Apparently, the time for talking has only just begun.

Posted by: Exurban Jon | December 18, 2009, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

Does ANYONE believe that Obama decided to just BARGE in on China, India, Brazil and South Africa? I wish this administration would quit the fantasy spinning.
And after watching the video of Obama’s speech I can ask only one thing.
Obama mocked the Kyoto Protocol by mentioning that it WAS legally bound yet few countries met their legal obligations.
So given the Copenhagen agreement is NOT legally binding what does that tell us about what was REALLY accomplished.
It tells us it was ‘meaningful’ but nothing more.
And Obama had a terrible time answering questions…. just imaging how Gibbs will fare.

Posted by: Denbo | December 18, 2009, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

What are the ramifications of a country if the “international mechanism” determines a country has not met its agreements?

Posted by: Rob | December 18, 2009, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

“Mr. Premier, are you ready to see me? Are you ready?”
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I don’t know what to make of this. It seems such an odd thing to do.

Posted by: MayBee | December 18, 2009, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

Another example of what an idiot obama is. No legal binding treaty with China and India and yet he is giving away another 20 billion dollars of our tax payer money.

Posted by: sst34 | December 18, 2009, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

I still don’t get this —– We pony up 100 billion a year to 3rd world countries, to ease the guilt trip for leading the industialization of the world over the last 200+ years. No doubt the 100 billion will go into corrupt regimes, as we struggle to maintain our own standard of living.
This is to easy to be hard! Devote the 100 billion to develope battries and other sources of clean engery for transportation. Not only do we create jobs, but vastly reduce our dependence on foreigh oil, reduce greenhouse gas emmissions, and reduce the heating process. We save trillions of gallons of fuel, pay down our debt [reduced deficit] and make a vast contribution to meaningful gas reduction.
But this is not politically correct, is it?
The true reason for all of this, is not the condition of the earth, it’s “World Socialism” I for one, can not, and will not have anything to do with reducing the quality of the American way of life.

Posted by: US731 | December 18, 2009, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

From the environmental group Friends of The Earth:
“Climate negotiations in Copenhagen have yielded a sham agreement with no real requirements for any countries.
This is not a strong deal, not a just one, it isn’t even a real one.
It’s just repackaging old positions and pretending they are new.”
But what does Obama call it?
An “unprecedented breakthrough to curb greenhouse gases”.
Now who will the MSM quote I wonder?

Posted by: hank | December 18, 2009, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

Obama helps produce a climate plan that is full of loopholes. What a surprise.
Sounds like his plan to regulate Wall Street.

Posted by: ollie | December 18, 2009, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

yeah jake, i heard its like truly amazing!! ya know whats really cool? its written on the back, the actual back of the original document, of the kellogg-briand pact! really. seriously. to add “legitamacy” to it and all…..jake, dont you get tired of chasing this baffoon around the planet? i mean how many times can you watch totus, and listen to the same crap? “time for talking is over”. “let me be clear” god its old already. nice work jake. somebodys gotta do it. you rock dude. now google kellogg-briand, ok?

Posted by: fred | December 18, 2009, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

Is this the moment when the rise of the oceans begin to slow and our planet begins to heal?
I think that was one of Obama’s campaign promises.

Posted by: mick | December 18, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

At this late day in my life (65+), I have seen many news anchors come and go but Charlie Gibson’s retirement caused me to choke up! The ultimate in objectivity is what he brought to the news and on GMA!

Posted by: Ann King | December 18, 2009, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Who says this is the earth’s optimal temperature right now? Maybe 2 degrees warmer would save lives in cold climates? Basic questions, never addressed.
What if we overdo our efforts and trigger an ice age and can’t grow food?

Posted by: Evie | December 18, 2009, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

“4 against 1″
“no problem”
Look everyone it’s John Wayne!
lol, what a joke.

Posted by: Huh? | December 18, 2009, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

““Four against one,” an official said to the president.
“No problem, I’ll bow 4 times before they know what hit ‘em!” he replied.
Fixed.

Posted by: Huh? | December 18, 2009, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

Is this the moment when the rise of the oceans begin to slow and our planet begins to heal?
I think that was one of Obama’s campaign promises.
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Obama’s phrase during the election was ‘a planet in peril’ if I recall correct, and he said it needed to be addressed internationally.
That’s more than you can say for the full 8 years wasted by the last administration.

Posted by: tierra | December 18, 2009, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm

Is this the moment when the rise of the oceans begin to slow and our planet begins to heal?
____________________________________
Obama’s phrase during the election was ‘a planet in peril’ if I recall correct, and he said it needed to be addressed internationally.
That’s more than you can say for the full 8 years wasted by the last administration.
Posted by: tierra |
The Obama quote was close enough.
Given you opinion of the bush years that is damning with faint praise.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | December 18, 2009, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

“Here I come to save the day!
Mighty Mouse is on the way!”
Really, this is what we get when our president is elected by alumni of the Mickey mouse Club.

Posted by: hinckleybuzzard | December 18, 2009, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

These guys want to be treated as major economies in one moment, and in another they are clamoring to wear their third world status! Shame on you China, India and Brazil, if you dont believe in climate change say and act so, stand up and be counted. Climate justice is an equal opportunity punishment.

Posted by: Bill | December 18, 2009, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

At this late day in my life (65+), I have seen many news anchors come and go but Charlie Gibson’s retirement caused me to choke up! The ultimate in objectivity is what he brought to the news and on GMA!
Posted by: Ann King
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Charlie Gibson was a left wing talking head, he did the bidding of the white house…When he made the idiotic statement he didn’t not know what was going on with the acorn story, he lost all credibility.. it made him a disgrace to journalism

Posted by: welcome to Obamaville,the fastest growing homeless community | December 18, 2009, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

George Monbiot blogs:
“The nation states, pursuing their own interests, have each been passing the parcel of responsibility since they decided to take action in 1992.
We have now lost 17 precious years; possibly the only years in which climate breakdown could have been prevented. This has not happened by accident: it is the result of a systematic campaign of sabotage by certain states, which has been driven and promoted by the energy industries. This idiocy has been aided and abetted by the nations characterised, until now, as the good guys… In all cases immediate self-interest has trumped the long-term welfare of humankind. Corporate profits and political expediency have proved to be more urgent concerns than either the natural world or human civilisation. Our political systems are incapable of discharging the main function of government: to protect us from each other.
Goodbye Africa, goodbye south Asia; goodbye glaciers and sea ice, coral reefs and rainforest; it was nice knowing you, not that we really cared. The governments which moved so swiftly to save the banks have bickered and filibustered while the biosphere burns.”

Posted by: Elsa Marie | December 18, 2009, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

this whole visit by the Won was truly an “Epic Fail”….. which should also be the w*rking title for Ear Leader’s presidential memoirs, since William Ayers is undoubted already writing the first draft. explaining away four years of uninterrupted failure will tax the skills of even a talented liar like Terrorist Bill.
Jimmy Carter has to be beyond envy at the speed with which this incompetent has eclipsed his once invulnerable claim to the title “Worst American President Ever”. if this is the First Incompetent’s idea of a solid “B+”, i can’t wait to see what happens when he turns in his best effort…… pass the popcorn please!

Posted by: redc1c4 | December 18, 2009, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

Team O and countless world leaders couldn’t even get a binding agreement to reach an agreement in the next 12 months?
Why did he go again? Sec. Clinton already announced the $100BN fundraiser to save the planet, what did O get?
When Sec. Clinton said the president shouldn’t meet with world leaders unless s/he is assured a positive outcome she was right…

Posted by: N2vip | December 18, 2009, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

All credit to Obama and his team for managing to wrestle something out of this mess.
George Bush sat picking his nose and stonewalling all forward movement on the issue. A kooked out creationist who spoke to spirits in the privacy of his bathroom and set in motion a phony war that killed tens of thousands and maimed tens of thousands more.
We are LUCKY to have Obama at this point in time after the dinosaurs in the previous Republican white house.

Posted by: tierra | December 18, 2009, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

I find the impulsivity and lack of decorum here to be disturbing and very likely not without consequence. First off, presidents don’t show up to negotiate stuff, they come to sign a deal that has already been made. Secondly, pulling this kind of juvenile stunt by barging in on the Chinese Premier when he already knows that this conference failed (and he shouldn’t have come) is foolish and insulting. This guy needs somebody to buy the Treasuries he is selling to finance his unprecedented debt, and the Chinese are sitting on $800B right now and considering dumping it. Thanks for provoking them needlessly, jackass.

Posted by: Froggy | December 19, 2009, 3:11 am 3:11 am

All Hail Obama!
All Hail the State!
Am I doing ot right, tierra?

Posted by: JamesJ | December 19, 2009, 7:09 am 7:09 am

Yes, struggling to maintain our own standard of living is high on Obama’s list. Don’t you recall his statements during the campaign when he said Americans should not expect to be able to set their thermostats at 72, eat all they want and drive their SUV’s? He has made his intentions quite clear but Americans are not listening. Wake up people. He hates his country and is attempting to kill it any way he can all the while keeping his own thermostat at 85. Lovely man eh?

Posted by: mickeymat | December 19, 2009, 8:01 am 8:01 am

I think the planet’s fever just broke. All hail the earth’s Florence Nightingale.

Posted by: ConservativeWoman | December 19, 2009, 9:17 am 9:17 am

The faster the USA becomes a ‘third world’ nation, the happier Ø will be.

Posted by: jkcinsalem | December 19, 2009, 9:27 am 9:27 am

The world was upset because Obama chose to slit America’s throat, instead of chopping its head off. But the big O was able to placate them with a promise of monetary tributes to third world dictators.

Posted by: Mike L | December 19, 2009, 11:54 am 11:54 am

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