Humility of Hype: Neither Peace Nor Prize for Obama — Yet
ABC News’ Rick Klein reports: Think he’d trade a Nobel Peace Prize for some peace in the Democratic Party?
Or a 60th vote in the Senate?
Or maybe he’d settle for bottling some of the adoration and bringing it back home with him?
President Obama on Thursday collected the Peace Prize by outlining an Obama doctrine — of “just war” and “just peace,” of “evolution” of institutions to reflect new realities — and by giving voice to a humility that was much of what he was recognized for in the first place.
“It is an award that speaks to our highest aspirations — that for all the cruelty and hardship of our world, we are not mere prisoners of fate. Our actions matter, and can bend history in the direction of justice,” the president said.
“And yet I would be remiss if I did not acknowledge the considerable controversy that your generous decision has generated. In part, this is because I am at the beginning, and not the end, of my labors on the world stage,” he continued. “But perhaps the most profound issue surrounding my receipt of this prize is the fact that I am the Commander-in-Chief of a military, of a nation, in the midst of two wars.”
It comes at what can fairly be described as a delicate time for his presidency — where he may take friendship in lieu of outright peace.
His critics are growing more vocal, on his left and on his right.
They see neither peace nor a big prize. His base is getting anxious — in a bobbing-and weaving Afghanistan policy, in a moving mess of a health care bill, in a domestic agenda frozen by domestic politics.
The president is left in an oddly familiar zone — in the middle of a whole lot of noise.
That’s noise he cut through on Thursday, as he accepted an award that reminds the nation and the world of the Obama of January 2009, rather than the Obama we see at the end of a tortuous first year in office.
More humility: “I have no doubt that there are others who may be more deserving,” the president said at his news conference Thursday, per ABC’s Jake Tapper, Sunlen Miller, and Ann Compton.
The message: “President Obama becomes the proud recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize on Thursday, but he knows he’s not in the same league as more deserving luminaries who have been given the honor,” The New York Daily News’ Ken Bazinet writes.
The rest of the Obamas’ day, per ABC’s Sunlen Miller: “In the evening, as is tradition, the President and First Lady will attend the Nobel Banquet at the Grand Hotel. Mr. and Mrs. Obama will spend the night in Oslo and are anticipated to return to Washington, D.C. on Friday.”
Back on the home front — another poll, another new low:
“A bare majority of Americans support President Obama’s plan to send 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan, but many are skeptical that the United States can count on Afghanistan as a partner in the fight or that the escalation would reduce the chances of a domestic terrorist attack, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll,” Adam Nagourney and Dalia Sussman write in the Times.
“The poll showed a steady slide in support for Mr. Obama as he approaches the end of his first year in office. His job approval rating has now hit 50 percent, the lowest yet in this poll; it was 68 percent at its peak in April. The percentage of Americans who approve of his handling of the economy has dropped to 47 percent from 54 percent in October. And 42 percent approve of the way he is handling health care, down five percentage points in the last few months.”
Tipping point in the polls? Nate Silver, of FiveThirtyEight.com: “Obama has started to reach a point where he’s losing support among some voters who voted for him — including some liberals. This marks a difference from before, when he was (mostly) eroding goodwill from people who hadn’t voted for him in the first place,” Silver writes for Politico.
On health care — new for the annals of openness and transparency: “Senate Democrats said on Wednesday that they were not sure exactly what was in a deal that the majority leader said would surmount a disagreement over a proposed government-run health plan. But they voiced guarded optimism that it would ultimately help them pass major health care legislation,” David M. Herszenhorn and Robert Pear write in The New York Times.
And does he see something that we don’t? “If there’s a trigger, I can’t support it,” said Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn.
Momentum: “Even Democrats who were not thrilled with the buy-in program applauded the deal’s central component: replacing the public option with two national private insurance policies under the oversight of the Office of Personnel Management,” The Washington Post’s Shailagh Murray and Lori Montgomery report.
“The notion that the Senate healthcare bill might have suddenly expanded its base of political support quickly took hold Wednesday,” Noam Levey and Bruce Japsen report in the Los Angeles Times. “President Obama endorsed the compromise. Many liberals who had been disappointed in the derailing of a government-run plan, or so-called public option, to compete with private insurers hailed the Medicare expansion idea.”
The day’s biggest boost: “I support this effort,” President Obama said Wednesday.
Think the CBO matters again? “Until the package that was sent is scored, we really don’t even know what’s in it,” Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., said, per Roll Call’s David M. Drucker and Emily Pierce.
“If the numbers look good, sources on Capitol Hill say, the group will probably agree on the proposal,” The New Republic’s Jonathan Cohn reports. “But, as always, that’s a big ‘if.’ And further modifications are entirely possible.”
Not going to help with moderates: “The last-minute introduction of this idea within the broader context of health reform raises numerous questions — not least of which is whether this proposal is a far more dramatic step toward a single-payer system than lawmakers on either side realize,” The Washington Post editorial reads.
Not going to help with liberals: “This much was apparent: A new government-run plan to compete with private insurers, an idea long sought by liberals and the White House, was barely alive,” McClatchy’s David Lightman and Margaret Talev report.
“The idea of an immediate plan to offer government insurance for all effectively died in the Senate this week of a thousand cuts,” Politico’s Carrie Budoff Brown reports. “Rather than salvage the public option in a weakened form, Democrats looked for an alternative. And some well-timed advice from Howard Dean, the former Democratic National Committee chairman, helped to break the stalemate.”
(Yes, that’s Howard Dean on the Obama side — not the MoveOn.org side, of this particular intramural fight.)
“Whether or not the plan includes a public option — a federally run health plan — will apparently come down to how you define ‘public option,’ ” NPR’s Julie Rovner reports.
Not flying, on the left: “MoveOn sent an email to their members saying that Senate Democrats ‘bargained away the heart of health care reform — allowing conservative senators like Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson to hold th e process hostage and protect Big Insurance,’ ” ABC’s David Chalian reports. “In addition, the Progressive Change Campaign Committee is targeting the four liberal Senators (Feingold, Burris, Sanders, Brown) who have made clear their vote for health care reform was dependent upon a public option being included in the final bill.”
“Obama FAIL,” screams the e-mail from FireDogLake.com.
Free for the weekend: “I see no reason to punish everybody this weekend,” said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who has a fundraiser in Louisiana to get down to on Saturday.
On the right — in a story you’ll see again, and again: “Buoyed by their success in capsizing a moderate Republican candidate this fall in Upstate New York, tea party activists and affiliated groups are unveiling new political action committees and tactics aimed at capitalizing on conservative opposition to health-care reform, financial bailouts and other Obama administration policies. The goal is to harness the anger that led to hundreds of protests around the country from spring to fall, including a gathering of tens of thousands of protesters on the Mall in September,” Dan Eggen and Perry Bacon Jr. write in The Washington Post.
Remember when the fight over regulatory reform was going to be in the Senate? “The House Democratic effort to overhaul regulation of the nation’s financial system ran into new internal resistance Wednesday, demonstrating the difficult balancing act the party faces in trying to shape rules to prevent a repeat of last year’s financial crisis,” Carl Hulse reports in The New York Times.
House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass.: “Differences have been narrowed and I think you’re getting something that both sides can live with,” Frank said, per Bloomberg’s Alison Vekshin and Lorraine Woellert.
Extending into jobs: “Long past dreams of Beltway comity, Obama is now in a political tight spot, wedged between sky-high unemployment and lingering concerns over government spending and debt. That choice pits the President’s left flank against his moderate supporters,” Time’s Michael Scherer writes.
The New Republic’s Noam Scheiber: “The basic problem is that any additional stimulus adds to the deficit, while deficit reduction steps on a weak economy. And so Democrats now find themselves having to pull off a balancing act that would seem to defy the laws of economics: taking on both tasks simultaneously.”
From the annals of bipartisanship: “President Barack Obama’s push for new job-creation legislation got off to a rocky start at a closed-door White House meeting Wednesday, when he accused Republicans of rooting against recovery and Republicans shot back that his policies had frozen business hiring,” The Wall Street Journal’s Jonathan Weisman reports.
The retirement of Rep. Brian Baird, D-Wash., makes three drips… “Just months after taking on angry town hall demonstrators, Washington Democratic Rep. Brian Baird said Wednesday he will not seek re-election to a seventh term,” Les Blumenthal writes for the Tacoma, Wash., News Tribune. “In a surprise announcement, Baird said he wanted to spend more time with his family and pursue other options. He did not elaborate.”
Chris Cillizza, at “The Fix” blog: “Baird’s retirement will increase chatter within Democratic circles that potentially vulnerable members are jumping ship rather than running the risk of losing their seats in what is shaping up to be a tough 2010 election. Top Democratic strategists have insisted that the retirements of Tanner and Moore were entirely isolated cases but they may struggle to make that case with Baird’s retirement added to the mix.”
New invite for the Salahis: “They masqueraded on White House grounds, shook hands with the president and then went on national television to talk about it. Now Tareq and Michaele Salahi say they intend to invoke their Fifth Amendment rights not to incriminate themselves when faced with congressional subpoenas to testify under oath,” ABC’s John Parkinson and Devin Dwyer report.
No subpoena for Desiree Rogers — and limited patience for much more of this: “We should get back to things that are important to the country,” said Rep. Anh “Joseph” Cao, R-La., per The Washington Post’s Jason Horowitz.
Sanford survives: “House lawmakers Wednesday rejected a measure to impeach Gov. Mark Sanford, making it unlikely the governor will be removed from office,” The State’s John O’Connor reports. “However, the special House impeachment panel approved an official rebuke – or censure – of Sanford for bringing ‘ridicule, dishonor, disgrace and shame’ on the state, its citizens and the governor’s office.” (We’re sure he won’t do it again.)
The Kicker:
“She will resist writing something sarcastic, since this will be recorded for the future.” — President Obama, on what his wife was signing in the official book for Nobel Prize winners.
“And I have to tell you that hurts. … We just called the people we get our Christmas trees from every year and told them to ship it down here.” — Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., missing Vermont.
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The prize and Obama are jokes—-bad ones. What a bunch of hooey.
Posted by: Sendthemtojail | December 10, 2009, 8:48 am 8:48 am
I hope he changes what he’s doing before he puts us into a deep depression. So far, nothing has worked. This morning on the radio program Bob and Tom (nationwide show) a comedian even quipped that BO is a big disappointment to the laghter of the whole group.
Posted by: jjj | December 10, 2009, 8:55 am 8:55 am
Unemployment back up. New numbers out this morning show an unexpected increase. This is at a time when people are supposed to be shopping and workers should be needed. Boy I’ll bet January and Febuary are disasterous.
Posted by: jjj | December 10, 2009, 8:58 am 8:58 am
It is becoming grating and tiring to watch the media continue to bash the president for having the arrogance to be named the recipient of an award over which he has no control. As if he nominated and then voted for himself for the Nobel. Cut it out…
Posted by: matt | December 10, 2009, 9:14 am 9:14 am
Which peace prize is less deserving? Gore or Obama? The other Nobel prizes are based in merit, not this one though. And the carbon to fly over there. Wow! Gore should put the smackdown on Obama for damaging the environment so much. Oh wait Gore is a hypocrite too, never mind.
Posted by: Huh | December 10, 2009, 9:33 am 9:33 am
I don’t think he would know humility if
it slapped him in the face. His smug
arrogance tell you all you have to know
what he thinks vs. what he is saying.
I guess if they would give a fraud like
Al Gore the Peace prize, they would give
it to anyone.
Posted by: wis134 | December 10, 2009, 9:43 am 9:43 am
matt : He should have refused it or given it to someone who actually has done something.
Posted by: jjj | December 10, 2009, 9:45 am 9:45 am
ODS continues….. Obama Derangement Syndrome…… The President did not ask for the Nobel prize. The same bunch who are bashing him for accepting will blast him for arrogance if he turned it down.
Their main problem is that their star G W Bush is now a phony motivational speaker who may not be welcomed in many countries. What can a person with ‘silver-spoon’ and trustfund-based background teach us about motivation?
Posted by: New Wave | December 10, 2009, 9:46 am 9:46 am
new wave : it always goes back to Bush doesn’t it. get a life
Posted by: jjj | December 10, 2009, 9:52 am 9:52 am
Obama said he was going to donate the
prize money. Has anyone heard who/to
what that will be going to ????
Posted by: wis134 | December 10, 2009, 9:52 am 9:52 am
wis134; I’m guessing ACORN.
Posted by: jjj | December 10, 2009, 9:53 am 9:53 am
jjj: as usual u bypass the thrust of my post in line your tactic of circular debate. What problem do you and your cohorts have with President Obama receiving the Nobel prize?
My wager is that if he rejected it, you will still find something negative to rant about.
Posted by: New Wave | December 10, 2009, 9:59 am 9:59 am
New Wave, the problem I have is he HAS NOT done 1 thing to deserve the award. Pretty words and ideas shouldn’t count.
Being a motivational speaker doesn’t make a Nobel Peace Prize winner or a president.
Posted by: whatsgoingonhere? | December 10, 2009, 10:12 am 10:12 am
Brilliant speech! An education in itself! This should be read in schools and taught in history and political science classes on every level. THIS is what it’s ALL about. Read the entire transcript. Print it. Frame it. Read it to your children and grandchildren, and may the future world we live in will be a better place.
Posted by: Gerald | December 10, 2009, 10:20 am 10:20 am
Desmond Tutu got the nobel peace prize for efforts against Apartied (spelling?) long before that regime was defeated.
The Burma opposition leader got the award for efforts against the junta but that junta is still in power.
There are other instances of people getting the award on aspirational grounds before President Obama. So why the rants now?
Posted by: New Wave | December 10, 2009, 10:22 am 10:22 am
Never earned, and still not deserved. Sad to see the prize become sooooooo very politicized.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | December 10, 2009, 10:24 am 10:24 am
I am totally ashamed of all those Americans republicans and democrats who cannot support this president in this regard. He did not ask for this prize…it was given to him by people who met him and felt his passion for peace all over the world. Sending troops to Afghanistan is not what he planned to do, however, circumstances evolved which he had to respond to. If he sent no troops, he would have been critcized….he if sends troops he is criticized. He is in a no win situation and instead of feeling his pain, he is criticized for anything he does. Obviously those who nominated him see in him some good…it is a shame that we americans do not. No one bashed Bush for getting us into a war and causing men to lose lives…everyone thought “wow, what an american? Ask the families who lost a son, daughter or someone how they feel now. I am an Independent who supports this president and is proud of him for this award.
Posted by: talmag | December 10, 2009, 10:24 am 10:24 am
wis134: I heard the church. I think the pastor is a Rev. Wright.
Posted by: older&wiser | December 10, 2009, 10:25 am 10:25 am
new wave ; Ok then what has he done to deserve it?
Posted by: jjj | December 10, 2009, 10:27 am 10:27 am
talmag : no one bashed bush ? You have been living in a hole if that’s what you think.
Posted by: jjj | December 10, 2009, 10:31 am 10:31 am
new wave; those people you suggest allhave one thing in common, incredible sacrifice. Where has BO sacrificed?
Posted by: jjj | December 10, 2009, 10:33 am 10:33 am
You’re comparing his award to Desmond Tutu’s award? Seriously? I voted for the guy and have no love for Bush, but no President, Obama included, involved in one war and actually escalating another one should get a Nobel Peace Prize. Ever. They didn’t give FDR a Nobel Peace Prize in the middle of World War II. This award is ridiculous. And anyone who doesn’t think so is the one wearing blinders, not others who you’re somehow charging with Obama Derangement Syndrome. He didn’t deserve the award, even HE admits he didn’t deserve the award, saying so is not derangement it’s FACT!
Posted by: Jim | December 10, 2009, 10:40 am 10:40 am
jjj: thought you did not want to post about Bush?
Posted by: New Wave | December 10, 2009, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Jim: You are right, President Obama himself was even surprised at getting it.
I am stating that it is ridiculous for people to criticize him for getting an award that he did not ask for … as if he asked for it.
So is it his fault that the Nobel Committee gave him the award?
Posted by: New Wave | December 10, 2009, 10:49 am 10:49 am
Definition of Obama Derangement Syndrome (ODS)… a condition that people have in which they critize whatever President Obama does regardless of what it is.
Or attempt to spin unrelated events in order to bash the President.
Posted by: New Wave | December 10, 2009, 10:56 am 10:56 am
new wave : what has he done ? come on.
Posted by: jjj | December 10, 2009, 10:58 am 10:58 am
11 days in office and he wins a peace prize. Pretty corrupt system to win in 11 days. maybe it was for keeping peace in the neighborhood when he was a neighborhood activist?
Posted by: Jim Rod | December 10, 2009, 10:59 am 10:59 am
He has got a pair of brass ones to even accept the Nobel Peace Prize.
Will his ego ever be satisfied? Can he possibly make more stupid TV speeches (which no one listens to) or claim credit for the work of those who came before him?
Posted by: Marc | December 10, 2009, 11:18 am 11:18 am
If the Novel Prize has parts of ‘ABORTION” or “BEST SPENDING MONEY”,
it would absoultely go to Obama. It’s because that Obama had signed on the “Mexico Policy”, which America Federal Gov. reopened supporting “ABORTION” with US$100,000,000.00 for all of the world on Jan. 23, 2009. The due date to submit
the documents of Novel Prize to the office was Feb. 1, 2009. In addition, Obama ordered Federal Gov. print omney US$1,000,000,000,000.00 on March 23, 2009. THESE ARE GREATEST ACHIVMENTS FROM OBAMA, SO FAR.
Posted by: Jamie-NY | December 10, 2009, 11:22 am 11:22 am
The disturbing part of his address was that he declares his significance on the world stage has just begun. As suspected, from the time he came on the national scene he has been crafting a niche, possibly as leader in a world government which he is actively pushing us toward. He’s finally admitted his ambition. It’s no longer a conspiracy theory. Loss of sovereign nation status is worthy of concern. National bankruptcy puts that sovereignty at risk. The national debt escalates even as we peruse this website. Bankruptcy is just a credit refusal away. Our immediate concern should be that people don’t have money to buy food because they have no jobs, no income. We should be concerned that home foreclosures are 18% higher than during that disastrous November of a year ago. More and more people are finding themselves homeless daily. Eating and having shelter contribute to good health much more than healthcare insurance. Our leaders need to focus.
Posted by: mmonroeliveson | December 10, 2009, 11:22 am 11:22 am
If anyone heard or read his acceptance speech one would be really impressed. It sounded like he was really standing up for America. Question is – does he really believe what he said or was it just another pretty speech??
Posted by: mj | December 10, 2009, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Now the world really believes that we have a jackass for a President. He knows he doesn’t deserve any prize for anything and yet he makes a fool of himself and this country by accepting an award making a mockery of the Prize itself.
Posted by: Jason | December 10, 2009, 11:24 am 11:24 am
As used to associate the Nobel prize with excellence, prestige, and above-average accomplishment.
Giving this man a prize has diminished the meaning of every award granted prior.
Nobel=Joke.
Posted by: Farnsworth | December 10, 2009, 11:27 am 11:27 am
The left eats their own, so does the far right for that matter but all this negativity proves you can’t please everyone. Anyone with a pea sized brain knew this award was for his bashing of the US and in particular Bush who as we all know that the smarmey, elite nostril gazers despised.
So while he trots around getting awards and making speeches let everyone remember that a lot of people are out of jobs, have lost their homes and that our country isn’t just in debt but has been for years with all these warm fuzzy programs that are not paid for.
And as Congress and the EPA”works” to take over healthcare and saving the planet things are going to get worse.
Posted by: david | December 10, 2009, 11:28 am 11:28 am
One word describes it all – JOKE
Posted by: Peter Smith | December 10, 2009, 11:29 am 11:29 am
NEW WAVE: It’s been an hour now and you haven’t come up with one accomplishment?
Posted by: jjj | December 10, 2009, 11:42 am 11:42 am
While many people are criticizing a president who has faced the worst recession in centuries…look around…we are getting out of it and in less than a year. Many pundents felt this would not happen and certainly not in this short a time. Those who are criticizing him and refusing to work with him should be the ones who are being bashed. Without any support from the other party, this president pushed on and did many things. Health care for children, equal pay for women (long overdue) stem cell research approval, our esteem abroad restored, education, and like it or not the saving of the auto workers in some areas. Without him stepping in, this recession would have been much worse. The job situation is bad but much of it is because companies are not hiring and asking people to do two jobs without additional money and people are doing it just to keep their jobs. Some companies will not re-hire and I have seen it in many instances. They are going to push the employees they have until some of them get tired and rebel. Things will get better and I think the president has the right idea to use some of the tarp money for small businesses. Of course, the republicans who have been yelling about this are now against it. What a surprise. Imagine how much better things would be if the president had some support from the opposite party? They are the ones holding back progress and people will not forget this come election time. I hope he gets health care and I prefer the public option and I am an Independent they say who is abandoning him. Not true. What he has accomplished in this amount of time with no support is amazing and I think it is about time he should get some credit for this. Of course, reporters would rather do the opposite.
Posted by: talmag | December 10, 2009, 11:43 am 11:43 am
Maybe the prize was really a blackmail (or carrot) attempt to get Obama to follow the liberal Nobel agenda.
Posted by: deanbob | December 10, 2009, 11:44 am 11:44 am
I am so proud of our President, Barack Obama. His speech in Oslo was revolutionary. This is a moment in history I have been waiting for my whole life: the forces of good are beginning to gather strength across the nations. I believe we are on the cusp, not just of peace and prosperity in America, but of justice and good for the whole world.
Posted by: Amy | December 10, 2009, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Matt:It is becoming grating and tiring to watch the media continue to bash the president for having the arrogance to be named the recipient of an award over which he has no control. As if he nominated and then voted for himself for the Nobel. Cut it out…====================Maybe if dumBO wasn’t such a narcissistic self absorbed community organizer instead of a true leader he would have respectively turned down the prize.
Posted by: Todd | December 10, 2009, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
Obama’s speech with a good delivery was similar to his ongoing campaign for the office that he already holds. Full of rhetoric and hype but with one glaring lie.
His statement {America has never fought a war against a democracy and our closest friends are governments that protect the rights of their citizens} that America never declared war or fought a democratic country was a lie.
In 1812 and 1813 the Americans declared war on Canada and Britain and indeed actually invaded Canada.
Posted by: peterclarke | December 10, 2009, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
talmag wrote:
“a president who has faced the worst recession in centuries”
This is why the public is losing trust with the Democrats. They seem to lie about everything.
In 1980, after a few years of Democrat Jimmy Carter as prez, inflation was 13%, interest rates topped 20%.
Posted by: Joe White | December 10, 2009, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
There is no peace in sight, for most of the world.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | December 10, 2009, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
jjj: silence is the best answer to a ….
Posted by: New Wave | December 10, 2009, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Who DID nominate him? Does anyone know?
Posted by: malcat | December 10, 2009, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
I support the President’s decision on Afghanistan. However, it is amusing to listen to Liberals who were adamantly against the war because of Bush. They were simply Bush haters and cannot understand there are Obama haters. Senseless opposition or support of this President should depend on the issue and not your Party affiliation.
Posted by: jerry | December 10, 2009, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Jerry: Bush had the support of most Americans on the Afghan war. The break was on the diversion to Iraq that was based on false information.
Posted by: New Wave | December 10, 2009, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Alqaeda just took credit for a bunch of attacks in Iraq, so those who think we have no busness having troops there need to take note these are the <<<<< that we need to be targeting.
Posted by: earl | December 10, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
He deserve it. He is one of the best president of all time
Posted by: Stephen | December 11, 2009, 7:10 am 7:10 am