By Gorman Gorman

Dec 3, 2009 8:12am

Job Talk: GOP Hones Messaging on Economy

ABC News’ Rick Klein reports: Everybody’s talking jobs. Not everybody has to be happy about it.

The dueling jobs events Thursday — the White House’s early afternoon jobs summit, and House Republicans’ late morning economic roundtable — highlight yet another political divide, one that has Republicans optimistic about their chances in 2010.

Don’t look now, but congressional Republicans have begun to develop a united and broad message on the economy. Yes, this is far easier to do when you don’t have to govern, but that doesn’t mean it’s politically insignificant.

The GOP job message ties just about all the big Washington issues together — from health care and stimulus spending, to deficits and card check — with little disagreement.

Democrats’ economic message, meanwhile, is driving the party apart — from health care and stimulus spending, to Ben Bernanke’s future and how to pay for the Afghanistan surge. (What does it say that another stimulus can’t even be called a “stimulus”?)

The Democrats’ argument about jobs continues to be that the White House actions to date have done what they’re supposed to do — but that it’s getting close to the time to do more.

The president is taking heat over spending too much and doing too little. Now the focus turns to what more can be done — so long as it doesn’t cost too much.

President Obama speaks at the opening session of the Jobs and Economic Growth Forum at the White House, at 1:30 pm ET. He’ll be back at 3:45 pm for closing remarks.

“As the economy has turned around and we’re beginning to see growth — as the Gross National Product has improved — we still have an unemployment rate that is far too high,” White House senior adviser Valerie Jarrett told ABC’s Robin Roberts on “Good Morning America” Thursday. The day is about finding “new fresh ideas,” she said, including “legislation, if necessary.”
 
House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, in advance of the GOP economic forum at the Capitol, starting at 11 am ET: “Later today, the White House will host a ‘jobs summit.’ But we’re going to discuss the issues that Washington Democrats won’t talk about… They just don’t get it. The American people are asking, ‘Where are the jobs?’ But all they are getting from Washington Democrats is more spending, more debt, and more policies that hurt small businesses.”

Where does the president go from here? “President Barack Obama is in a quandary over how to combat the country’s crippling joblessness, but he won’t lack for new ideas at Thursday’s White House jobs summit,” The Wall Street Journal’s Neil King Jr. reports. “The forum’s 130 guests plan to shower him and his staff with proposals — a few of which the administration may actually like. But for all the theater of the event, Mr. Obama has limited leverage to try to spur job growth, with interest rates already at rock bottom and federal deficits soaring.”

What good ideas are left that weren’t part of the three-quarters of a trillion dollars being spent in the stimulus package?

“A summit that will spur tangible actions or simply a glorified public-relations stunt?” ABC’s Matthew Jaffe and Karen Travers report. “That is the question as the White House on Thursday hosts a slew of the country’s best and brightest business executives, finance experts, economists, small business owners, and labor leaders to discuss ways to generate job creation.”

“Obama’s options are limited, as the administration already has signaled that it is unwilling to make any investments that would add significantly to the nation’s ballooning deficit,” Michael A. Fletcher and Ben Pershing report in The Washington Post. “It is far from clear that Obama will embrace all the ideas being promoted by his supporters in organized labor, who are making calls for direct funding of federal public works jobs, another round of aid to cash-strapped states and cities, and funding for infrastructure projects. Taken together, those initiatives could cost hundreds of billions of dollars — a tab Obama seems unwilling to shoulder.”

ABC’s Sunlen Miller has a list of confirmed attendees — with some of the biggest names in business and academia.

One sign of the concern — the president will be on the ground to tell the story when the new jobs numbers come out Friday: “Obama convenes a summit here on jobs, then flies Friday to Allentown, Pa., for the first in what will be periodic listening tours on the economy. The goal is to develop new spending and tax proposals to help many of the nation’s nearly 16 million unemployed people find work in 2010,” USA Today’s Richard Wolf reports. 

Frustration on the Hill — really only in one of the parties: “Congressional Democrats are steaming that their White House counterparts aren’t doing more to help them tackle soaring unemployment,” Roll Call’s Tory Newmyer and Emily Pierce report. “Leadership sources said the White House has made clear it would rather kick off legislative action around President Barack Obama’s State of the Union address in a month — a delay dismissed out of hand by Democratic lawmakers facing mounting heat from back home about the 10.2 percent unemployment rate.”

(And look who’s not coming to the White House: “Rep. Alcee Hastings (Fla.), co-chairman of the Democratic Congressional Task Force on Job Creation, said it was ‘inexcusable’ that the White House had left Members of Congress out of the event. Likewise, Small Business Chairwoman Nydia Velázquez (D-N.Y.) said she was ‘surprised to see no Members were invited.’ “)

House Appropriations Committee Chairman Dave Obey, D-Wis., to Time’s Jay Newton-Small: “It’s like shouting out into outer space, nothing’s coming back from the other side of the Hill, nothing’s coming back from the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue,” he laments.”

Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., speaking for a restless Congressional Black Caucus, to The Hill’s Silla Brush: “We have not been forceful enough in our efforts to protect the most vulnerable of our population. … We can no longer afford for our public policy to be defined by the worldview of Wall Street.”

Plus, some stimulus angst: “Rep. Bobby Rush (D-Ill.), the chairman of a new, bipartisan Congressional Jobs Now! Caucus, said that he and his colleagues have ‘enormous dissatisfaction’ with the stimulus and the $700 billion bailout for banks that was approved in 2008,” The Hill’s Walter Alarkon reports.

Stirring more stimulus angst: “As struggling communities around the country wait for more help from the $787 billion stimulus package, one region is already basking in its largess: the government-contractor nexus that is metropolitan Washington,” Alec MacGillis reports in The Washington Post. “Reports from stimulus recipients show that a sizable sum has gone to federal contractors in the Washington area who are helping implement the initiative — in effect, they are being paid a hefty slice of the money to help spend the rest of it.”

A sign of even more angst: On the eve of Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke’s re-nomination hearing Thursday, Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., announced Wednesday he’s putting a hold on the nomination: “The American people want a new direction on Wall Street and at the Fed. They do not want as chairman someone who has been part of the problem and who has been responsible for many of the enormous difficulties that we are now experiencing. It’s time for a change at the Fed.”

Enter Mitt Romney, with a 10-point plan on the economy: “Like other presidents before him, Barack Obama inherited a recession. But unlike them, he has made it worse, not better,” the former governor, R-Mass., writes in a USA Today op-ed. “The 10% unemployment crisis hangs like an albatross around President Obama’s neck. Eventually, as with every recession and recovery, the economy will improve and jobs will be created, but those who were unnecessarily unemployed due to the president’s faulty economic program will not forget. In order to most rapidly re-employ all America ns and to speed a strong recovery, the president must change course. If he does not, Republicans will bring a change of their own to Washington in the 2010 elections.”

Newt Gingrich, who is holding his own series of job summits around the country: “As the Obama Administration convenes with the so-called ‘experts’ in Washington, how many in the White House have actually created a job?”

AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka is going to the White House with a five-point plan — and a call for a financial transaction tax: “Extend the lifeline for jobless workers. … Rebuild America’s schools, roads and energy systems. … Increase aid to state and local governments to maintain vital services. … Fund jobs in our communities. … Put TARP funds to work for Main Street.” 

From the other side: “If the White House and Big Labor’s allies on Capitol Hill are truly concerned with job creation and economic development, they can send a clear and unambiguous message to small businesses by opposing the Employee ‘Forced’ Choice Act,” Katie Packer, executive director of the Workforce Fairness Institute, said in a statement Thursday.

On Afghanistan — a lukewarm reaction to a strategy, but the political support is where it needs to be for the White House:”President Barack Obama appears to have secured what President George W. Bush couldn’t: bipartisan support for an unpopular and faltering war,” per the AP’s Anne Flaherty. “Despite expressing an uneasiness about the details, lawmakers are poised to back Obama’s plan to send 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan after getting assurances that some soldiers and Marines will begin withdrawing in July 2011.” 

“Anxious Democrats show little appetite for seriously blocking President Barack Obama’s new war strategy for Afghanistan and appear to be looking for ways instead to bridge their differences with the White House before funding is debated next year,” Politico’s David Rogers reports.

Karl Rove, in his Wall Street Journal column: “Fortunately, the antiwar left has little power to stop the president from making good on his commitments. Notwithstanding Mr. Obama’s vote against funding the war in Afghanistan in May 2007, the White House can win a battle over war funding by standing with a coalition of victory-centered Republicans and Democrats who don’t want their president embarrassed. Only a failure of presidential nerve or an unwillingness to make further midcourse corrections as the need arises will keep Mr. Obama from achieving the goals he has spelled out.”

From (mostly) Democrats — a push for an up-or-down vote they’re not going to get: “I mean, this is a big deal. You know, we are enlarging our military footprint, and I think members of Congress have a role here; we should debate this. He should submit a supplemental request to Congress, we should debate it, vote up or down on it,” Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass., said Wednesday on ABCNews.com’s “Top Line.”

But what’s July 2011 really mean? “President Obama’s 18-month deadline for starting the Afghanistan pullout didn’t survive its first 18 hours,” Dana Milbank writes in his Washington Post column. “Wednesday’s testimony made clear that while the troop increase is solid, the pullout plans are mushy. In that sense, Obama gave the Republican opposition substantially more than he gave the liberals in his party. He showed a style of pragmatic leadership, and a willingness to defy his political base, that his predecessor never displayed. It was, depending on your perspective, either brave or foolhardy — the sort of defiance a renegade like [Sen. Joe] Lieberman could appreciate.” Defense Secretary Robert Gates, to ABC’s Charlie Gibson: “It would be a responsible drawdown based on conditions on the ground. July 2011 is the beginning of a process…. We want to light a fire under [the Afghan government].”

If it all looks familiar… “In crafting his new Afghanistan policy, President Obama borrowed liberally from an unlikely source: the playbook of George W. Bush,” the Los Angeles Times’ Julian E. Barnes, Ned Parker and Laura King report.

“Obama’s surge-and-wind-down strategy is both gutsy and politically risky,” E.J. Dionne Jr. writes in his column.

“Talk about big bets. President Obama’s speech at West Point was a careful blend of escalation and limitation, but it boiled down to wagering his presidency on Afghan President Hamid Karzai — a corrupt and hapless autocrat halfway around the world,” Newsweek’s Jonathan Alter writes.

More to come Sunday, on “This Week with George Stephanopoulos,” with guests Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Defense Secretary Gates, and Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis.: “With 30,000 more troops headed to Afghanistan we’ll ask Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Defense Secretary Robert Gates about the President’s plan to bring the war to an end,” Stephanopoulos blogs. “Can he keep to his promise of bringing troops home in 2011?  Eight years into the war, can the administration avert a quagmire and will the Karzai government rise to the challenge?  Clinton and Gates, together on ‘This Week.’ ” Speaking of feeling like the Bush years — a constitutional crisis over the White House party-crashers?

“White House Social Secretary Desiree Rogers will not talk to a Congressional committee investigating the security breach when a Virginia couple crashed a State Dinner last week,” McClatchy’s Steven Thomma reports.

“Based on the separation of powers, staff here don’t go to testify in front of Congress,” White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said.

Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., to ABC’s Jake Tapper, on “GMA” Thursday: “I just think they’re afraid to take the heat. They are hiding behind the separation of powers argument, which is not a real argument.”

Valerie Jarrett, on “GMA”: “We think we’ve really answered the questions fully… It doesn’t go against [transparency]… It’s important to have a balance, and have the White House staff able to have confidential conversations with the president and his team without appearing before Congress.”

Losing more star power, at Thursday’s House Homeland Security Committee hearing (though a subpoena will almost certainly be next): “They therefore respectfully decline to testify,” Michaele and Tareq Salahi said in a statement, this time turning down an actual invitation.

A policy shift: “After reviewing our actions, it is clear that the White House did not do everything we could have done to assist the United States Secret Service in ensuring that only invited guests enter the complex,” White House Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Messina wrote in a memo, per ABC’s Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller. “White House staff were walking back and forth outside between the check points helping guests and were available to the Secret Service throughout the evening, but clearly we can do more, and we will do more.”

Why the health care debate is going nowhere fast — but slowly: Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., is out with something of a filibusterer’s guide to the Senate, per ABC’s Z. Byron Wolf. “Attached to his letter is a concise two page memo outlining how an individual Senator can gum up the legislative works, forcing votes and delay before a bill is brought to the floor, while it is there, and before it goes to conference with the House,” Wolf reports.

The Senate voting starts — for real this time — on Thursday. (For the record, it took three days for senators to decide how and when to start voting on amendments.)

New narrative — from Time’s Karen Tumulty: “What about President Obama’s pledge to pass a measure that reins in the larger forces driving up health care costs? Or his vow that a reformed system would deliver more-efficient care, with better results for patients? That’s where the legislation could fall well short of the promises.”

In Massachusetts — no more debates in the Senate race, and still one front-runner: “For three months, the political class in Massachusetts has watched and waited, expecting one of her opponents to go aggressively after Attorney General Martha Coakley, who, by every measure, is the front-runner in the abbreviated campaign for the US Senate seat held by the late Edward M. Kennedy,” Brian C. Mooney writes in The Boston Globe. “With six days until the special four-candidate Democratic primary and the third and final televised debate now history, they are still waiting.”

What did you miss this decade? The most lasting political legacy: partisanship, from hanging chads to tea bags. The decade’s politics in review, at ABCNews.com.

The Kicker:

“A couple days later, after he raised a few million dollars off of it, I was thinking, ‘why didn’t I say that?’ ” — Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., per Politico, saying he wished he’d beaten Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., to the “you lie” punch.

“Absolutely and I’m telling you I am.” — Rory Reid, D-Nev., gubernatorial candidate and Sen. Harry Reid’s son, asked if he was taking a pass on a question about whether he’d have Nevada opt out of a new “public option” health care plan.

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User Comments

Use part of the rest of the stimulus to give tax breaks to small business to create jobs now. This seems to be what they want. If they don’t create jobs here in America, then cut it off. No way are we going to use stimulus money to allow tax breaks to hire people from India or other countries.

Posted by: Bob | December 3, 2009, 8:27 am 8:27 am

why can’t the GOP do anything in unity with the rest of congress, the administraton and the country…? why the constant obstruction and intransignece and failure of imagination?
we all went along with things their way for 8 long years – which ended in the Great Recession – and we saw cut taxes drasticall and engage in epic spending, (inculding borrowing 100s of billions “off books” from the Chinese, to pay for two botched wars) we saw them ignore any proposals to get medical costs under control, we saw them reject over and over again regulation of risky financial instruments….etc, etc…
And now they want to do it all over again…they have not changed a single thing in their ideology or approach, and they credibly want us to buy into their vision….
You have got to be kidding….combining epic tax cuts with epic borrowing, without fin market regulation got us to where we are today… NO THANKS.

Posted by: indithinker | December 3, 2009, 8:37 am 8:37 am

If the improvements keep going, there will be no repubs. The unemployment figures are improving with fewer and fewer new filings, now just get those back to work and all will be much better. The stimulus should be used for jobs creation; how about rebuilding the nations infrastructure? The repubs are more concerned with borrowing, military & war that they have neglected the infrastructure. At some point this must be addressed or we will have a nation in which we cannot safely travel across.

Posted by: raggmopp | December 3, 2009, 8:47 am 8:47 am

Republicans are a simple bunch. Think they’ll come up with new ideas on how to get us out of the mess they made. Of course not. Only one thing in their little minds and that’s tax cuts. Haven’t we been there and done that and seen what a disaster that leads to? Aren’t we living proof of what their last tax cuts did to this economy. Yet here we go again. A stagnant bunch of simpletons to be sure.

Posted by: pamp205 | December 3, 2009, 9:01 am 9:01 am

The republicans are betting they will prevail if they remain lockstep on every issue that affects the economy. The more people suffer the better they think their chances are. The results are in on their ideology. If they get back control they will continue the damage they started. The experiment has been tried twice with the same results. Every dollar the rich have has, “The United States of America” printed on it. They want the presses stopped once their pockets were filled. 18 more republican senate seats on the ballot in 2010. Lets outsource their jobs to democrats.

Posted by: rightbehind | December 3, 2009, 9:04 am 9:04 am

Breaking news alert. The republicans have a new fix for the economy! Tax breaks for the Wealthy!

Posted by: rightbehind | December 3, 2009, 9:07 am 9:07 am

This should have been priority number one, with Obama, and NOT health care.
Shows just how messed up his priorities are.

Posted by: Rick McDaniel | December 3, 2009, 9:24 am 9:24 am

listen if any of these idiots left or right have any good ideas then good i willing to listen. just because you have a d or a r or i beside your name doesnt mean you dont have any good ideas but this administration has to stop spending.for some reason they think thay have a blank check book to keep spending. adding on to a debt does not get you out of debt plain and simple.

Posted by: natale from mass. | December 3, 2009, 9:30 am 9:30 am

The GOP are the Closed minded, Party of No.
Obstruction against the opposing party is not a solution– Just like them rubberstamping the Bush/Cheney fiasco–
They represent tax cuts for the rich -and phony Wars for profit. They march in lockstep like the Brown shirts, and use similar tactics (misinformation disinformation, and endless Spin,Spin,Spin)– They have truly become the all Propaganda party!!! Its Party above Country– Reelection above all!!! Lincoln must be tossing in his grave!!!

Posted by: brian | December 3, 2009, 9:55 am 9:55 am

brian are you for real look at the dem they do the same thing personally i would prefer moderate dem and rep running this country right now not left wing loon bags like the moron in the white house sorry to say this guy doesnt have a clue how to run america he is so out of step with the middle class

Posted by: natale from mass. | December 3, 2009, 10:02 am 10:02 am

the GOP having a parallel economic summit is very appropriate, given they seem to live in a parallel universe…
the one where under their rule they seem to find that all was well….despite the economic apocalypse caused by epic tax cuts combined with epic spending
Do they think we would just forget how calamitous that approach was, in just 10 months and clamour for them to do it to us again?

Posted by: indithinker | December 3, 2009, 10:05 am 10:05 am

Hey, it is a simple process…..”YOU” voted for this ; now “YOU” have to suffer! like it or not….”YOU” were told the truth about him long before “YOU” voted. Just like Hitler, obama told “YOU” what he was going to do if elected. Now, you just want to whine about: no jobs, useless military, weak tactics, spending too much money, him making your children and grandchildren lose the American dream. Hey, you’re so damn stupid you deserve to have to suffer. Next time vote “ANYTHING” but democrat….maybe you’ll get your dignity back.

Posted by: Richard | December 3, 2009, 10:17 am 10:17 am

I openly admit that I’m not a Republican, BUT…..OMG, can’t you dems see what a huge mistake this moron obama has turned out to be? As for indithinker……..the answer is YES! You BET!!! The answer to your question: “Do they think we would just forget how calamitous that approach was, in just 10 months and clamour for them to do it to us again?” YES! I do think that. AND….YES!!! I do want you to vote Republican or Tea Party or ANYTHING except these simple minded dems.

Posted by: Richard | December 3, 2009, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Why believe the GOP? Why believe the dems? They never tell us what we don’t want to here. Thus they spew falsehoods. You have to be thinking that the GOP is thinking that another war, maybe with Iran, would be a good thing.

Posted by: Huh | December 3, 2009, 10:25 am 10:25 am

***why can’t the GOP do anything in unity with the rest of congress, the administraton and the country…? why the constant obstruction Posted by: indithinker | Dec 3, 2009 8:37:37 AM
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Just want to throw this out there: Demcrats have a filibuster proof majority in the senate and a supermajority in the house. They could anything they want to if the leaderships plans weren’t so abhorent to members of their own party. The republicans don’t have the numbers to do anything but talk, and without the chance of a filibuster they can only talk for a maxium of 1 hour per senator or 30 hours for the full debate, before a forced vote through cloture. The republicans aren’t responsible for the fact that the democrats can’t come together to agree on legislation.
though…***despite the economic apocalypse caused by epic tax cuts combined with epic spending… Posted by: indithinker | Dec 3, 2009 10:05:18 AM***
The Bush administration did act monumentally foolish when they cut taxes but didn’t cut goverment spending along with it. I really wish there was a “balance-budget” amendment in the constitution requireing them to fix the budget. Regardless of who is in power at the time the goverment tends to forget that they are supposed to be stewards over the country’s funds and not that we as the people have given them licence to rack up a large credit card bill.

Posted by: bobtherepublican | December 3, 2009, 10:30 am 10:30 am

To paraphrase Margaret Thatcher, she said the problem with socialism is you run out of other people’s money. The problem with the Obama administration is pure didain of captitalism evidenced by less than 7% of his cabinent ever working in the private sector. Sarah Palin has more economic sense than the whole lot of them. I am not wealthy and probably never will be, however I know wealthy people create jobs, not poor people. When the government creates jobs it is often bloated in beauracracy to the point of inefficiency. Why does the US Mint utilize UPS instead of the post office. Wake up liberals, there is often free cheese in the mousetrap, however only a fool will go after it.

Posted by: Downwithsocialism | December 3, 2009, 10:40 am 10:40 am

The Jack ### Party doesn’t want to cut taxes which would stimulate our economy. All they want to do is spend more which means taxes must go up, not come down. As the national debt grows our “interest only” payments also increase. At some point someone must pay more taxes with increasing debt. The only way the government receives money is through taxation. Those someones will be me and you. Employers continue to tighten their belts, are not hiring, but instead have honed their work forces down to bare bones. Businesses are contracting not growing. That’s why the job losses are tapering off. There are fewer jobs to be lost at this time. The question is where are the new jobs? Only the number of government jobs is increasing. More taxpayer expense won’t decrease the deficit spending. It is important to understand that investors only invest to make money. When they do make money our economy prospers. If private investors can’t make money in our economy, our economy suffers because their money gets invested where they can see their money grow instead of here in the US. It’s just common sense, something the wizards in this administration’s cabinet don’t seem to possess.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | December 3, 2009, 10:41 am 10:41 am

Im assuming you GOPer forgot that we had a surplus and a balanced budget before that idiot Bush stole the election. Here’s how it became a deficit
-We Invaded Iraq (without paying for it)
-He cut Taxes (without paying for it)
-He Signed the Medicare Rx bill (Without paying for it)
-He Bailed Out AIG
-He Bailed out Fannie and Freddie
-HE bailed out the Auto execs
Nothing about the GOP says fiscal responsibility. Now all of the sudden you all want us to listen to your theory. Are you all really that STUPID.
Bush ruined the economy in 8 years. Now Obama is supposed to clean it up in 10 months. You ignorant fake super-religious nuts need to get informed

Posted by: Jay | December 3, 2009, 10:48 am 10:48 am

Finally, after unemployment starts to run out, and people are getting desperate, now governement finally wants to talk jobs. That should have been priority one, all along, and NOT health care.

Posted by: Rick McDaniel | December 3, 2009, 10:50 am 10:50 am

I’m continually amazed at the level of ignorance in Americans.
First: Moving from loss of jobs to actual increase in jobs has historically been one of the last variables to be seen in a recovery from recession. Intelligent people acting befuddled by the current job status are simply choosing partisan politics as their excuse for taking these positions.
Second: If the GOP was the economic gurus they claim to be, our economy would be robust, not in recession. We have followed the GOP economic theory since Reagan’s first term. Our problem is we continue to support supply-side economics even in times which this theory does not fit the economic variables.
Third: If you want small business to thrive, spend your dollars accordingly. Our choice of products and services purchased is what makes or breaks small business, not the tax code.

Posted by: Independent1959 | December 3, 2009, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Sorry Natalie– the one who was out of step with the Middle class was Bush– Silver spoon in mouth– Remember the Katrina non response– That was Compassionate Conservatism at work. Tax cuts for the Upper 3% during wartime — an event unheard of in previous world history — Just like fighting on two fronts and attacking a non provoking country (Iraq) based on Phony (cherry Picked) Intel. No Obama is not a moron-But anyone who voted for Bush or Mclame/Palin is !!!

Posted by: brian | December 3, 2009, 10:59 am 10:59 am

mmonroeliveson: First, I’m a big Marilyn Monroe fan
America has already had too many tax cuts, this, combined with artificially low interest rates, are key factors why our economy is where it is at. America has not paid its way since 1981. I urge everyone to take the time to study the national debt charts.
Since 1981, GOP administrations have racked up $8.3 trillion of our national debt. Dem administrations, including Obama, have racked up $2.7 trillion.
The CBO stats show our current year deficit attributable to new policies under Obama as only 10%. Bush policies attributable to our current year deficit are 53%. The 37% balance is due to the economic downturn (reduced tax revenues).
‘Common sense’ is not adequate. You must look deeper into the issues to find the root causes of our problems.

Posted by: Independent1959 | December 3, 2009, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Posted by: Jay | Dec 3, 2009 10:48:38 AM
***Im assuming you GOPer forgot that we had a surplus and a balanced budget before that idiot Bush stole the election. Here’s how it became a deficit
-We Invaded Iraq (without paying for it)
-He cut Taxes (without paying for it)
-He Signed the Medicare Rx bill (Without paying for it)
-He Bailed Out AIG
-He Bailed out Fannie and Freddie
-HE bailed out the Auto execs
Nothing about the GOP says fiscal responsibility. Now all of the sudden you all want us to listen to your theory. Are you all really that STUPID.
Bush ruined the economy in 8 years. Now Obama is supposed to clean it up in 10 months. You ignorant fake super-religious nuts need to get informed ***
1. You are forgetting that for legislation to get passed we need senate, house and presidential approval. Meaning the problems from 2000-2008 are all of their problems, any representative holding an elected office in that time frame. Democrat, Republican and Independent: they are all at fault.
2. From January 2009-today the current congress and the Obama administration has out did the Bush era federal goverment in spending, by some estimates of a 3-1 margin, with even less to show for it but rising unemployment. Also granted the first auto bail out was under Bush, the second one, where we ended up owning significant portions of Chrystler and GM were the under current adminstrations. They are currently not Shinging examples of fiscal responsiblity either.

Posted by: bobtherepublican | December 3, 2009, 11:01 am 11:01 am

Bobtherepublican: Read the CBO report on current year deficit. You will find current spending is much more attributable to Bush and GOP-led legislation than Obama. I’m an independent because five years ago I could see the GOP heading us to the economic train wreck. Our problems are thirty years old, not ten months.

Posted by: Independent1959 | December 3, 2009, 11:07 am 11:07 am

Hone what message? yawn yawn….tax cuts to the wealthy and deregulation…..surely these clowns have learned their lesson that this is what caused the mess in the first place. Trickle down, yeah right!

Posted by: Denise | December 3, 2009, 11:32 am 11:32 am

People don’t seem to realize we’re still paying off debts accrued when the Republicans were in power. The tax cuts and the Iraq war were not paid for during their time in office it was all borrowed money that we’re having to pay back now. Oh I don’t deny it was a brilliant strategy since most voters are basically stupid and short sighted. Build up a huge unpaid debt pass it off to the next administration then pretend that you had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: WhatDaBlah | December 3, 2009, 11:32 am 11:32 am

“less than 7% of his cabinent ever working in the private sector”
Actually every member of Obama’s cabinet worked in the private sector, with the exception of Veterans Affairs Sec. Eric K. Shinseki, he spent his whole career in the military.

Posted by: gary | December 3, 2009, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Independent1959; 1)We are all impatiently waiting for the return of jobs in America. I think everyone understands that will take some time. Doesn’t make things any better for those who are currently unemployed and unable to secure employment. People continue to lose their homes as well though not much is being said about that. 2)Notice my top priority was jobs. Housing is the problem at the core this recession. Homes provided to those who couldn’t afford homes, a liberal legislative push, was the flawed concept that drove financial institutions to come up with “creative” ways to make money. Making money is the sole mission of financial institutions. Today we know the ways they chose were nothing more than gambling. Gamblers always lose in the long run. We should have let the losers lay in their own vomit while the good money managers would have survived. 3)The problem is mixing bleeding heart liberal socialist concepts with free enterprise. That’s what destroyed our economy and that’s what is to account for our national debt and annual budget deficit. We either go all socialist and turn all business over to theorizing politicians with no practical application of their theories that show they will work, or else we throw out the plethora of gravy train entitlements and let the cream rise, in which case our economy will start real recovery and our budget can be balanced with more government income resulting from more trade because there’s more money to spend and consumer confidence behind it. It is always wrong to take out more than was put in.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | December 3, 2009, 11:57 am 11:57 am

This will classic: Bush tax cut repeal and bam, EVERYONES taxes go up. Go look it up instead of spewing uneducated hate. Then the healthcare mandate hits and bam, those who make just enough to not get a subsidy get another bill in the mail. Finally, cap n tax hits and your energy bills go up at least $100.00 a month (Barrys estimates not mine). That has to be the best recipe for a one term pres I have ever seen.

Posted by: stickman | December 3, 2009, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

The unemployment report put out today is a lie. Read the first two paragraphs. The offices where cloesed for two days last week so it is incomplete. and it says there was an increase in claims. Contradicts it self

Posted by: Jim Rod | December 3, 2009, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

It’s amazing how idiotic some people are. Thoughout recent history reduced taxes have spurred economic growth. This has everthing to do with the tax code. Republicans have always claimed to be on this side. Clearly that has not always been the case. On the other hand democrats have made little effort to reduce taxes.

Posted by: jonny | December 3, 2009, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

NOT A CHANCE…..I remember the 1980′s. COMPANIES OUTSOURCED THEIR JOBS OVERSEAS, DEREGULATION OF BIG INDUSTRIES LIKE TRUCKING AND THE FIANCIAL SYSTEMS….”TRICKLED-DOWN” DIDN’T WORK THEN AND WILL NEVER WORK. THERE’S FUNDAMENTALS OF THIS COUNTRY THAT HAS TO BE REVERSED FROM RONALD REAGAN’S POLICIES. NOW HIS “MINIONS” ARE TRYING THEIR BEST TO KEEP IT GOING. FOOLS, THE POLICIES IN THE 1980′S GOT US TO THIS POINT RIGHT NOW. LOOK AROUND YOU…LOOK AT THIS COUNTRY. MAYBE SOME OF YOU ARE TOO YOUNG TO KNOW, BUT I REMEMBER!

Posted by: sara | December 3, 2009, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

sara…so what do you want? wealth to be confiscated and redistributed? thats what most people on this board are really saying. so many fools actually think the government creates jobs…people create jobs…not UNIONS.

Posted by: catman | December 3, 2009, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

Spending cuts need to start IN Government. The 100 million dollar BRIBE placed in the healthcare bill for Louisiana should be a crime. Any “Perks” should be cut. These people learn to practice what they preach.

Posted by: wheresmymoney | December 3, 2009, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

John (LOL) Boehner.. “The dems don’t get it (?)…where are the jobs??? Americans should be asking you John, boy, “where did our jobs go?” Thanks to your “unregulated free economic deregulation policies” – and oh yeh – coupled with those good old “tax cuts” for the rich. There are many of us who do not forget who caused this mess, Boehner. We don’t need or want any more of “your kind of help”!

Posted by: CND FOX | December 3, 2009, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

jonny…I am afraid you just do not get it. because you are not looking at the collateral damage done by the “tax cut” philosophy. Oh, the rich have definitely gotten richer, the conglomerates have gotten bigger but the middle class has lost many, many jobs and their quality of life has deteriorated greatly. And the poor? Well, they can’t even afford health insurance and many cannot make their mortgage payment. But I guess you have to be able to look beyond the “gated communities” to see it.

Posted by: CND FOX | December 3, 2009, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

CND read my comment, respond to that please

Posted by: stickman | December 3, 2009, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

That’s what I figured, I answered your post before you wrote it.

Posted by: stickman | December 3, 2009, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

Obama bails out Wall St. on the back of the taxpayers and people have the unmitigated gall to call Republicans just for the rich? Hey man, look around. See no jobs, see the stores closing, see crime going back up… Guess what, the Democrats have the House, Senate AND the White House… Put up OR Shut Up!!! We STILL have a one party problem. Remember when we had split government and this kind of crap could be stopped! You get only the government YOU deserve!

Posted by: jafo | December 3, 2009, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

Sarah Palin’s economic plan is to charge people $15.99 for a 5×7 photograph of themselves with her. A good plan for Sarah.

Posted by: The Little People | December 3, 2009, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

Well… well… well. Monroe, looks like you’ve got a ‘new bunch’ to ‘pal around with.’ “You betcha!”
My…. it’s been over a year now. Still recall your prognosticating (“dreaming and praying”) Barack Obama had so very little chance of winning the Nov. 3, 2008 Election! What you overlQQked was Obama WASN’T just running against John McCain. He had the Real Benefit of “Running Against The Entire Republican’ts Party!”
And one other thing for you and the rest of your “Politically Astute” – “Historic Economist” needed to be reminded of; “ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!” (And that’s fortunate for America – too!)

Posted by: bobj72 | December 3, 2009, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

Jay Said:
“Im assuming you GOPer forgot that we had a surplus and a balanced budget before that idiot Bush stole the election. Here’s how it became a deficit
-We Invaded Iraq (without paying for it)
-He cut Taxes (without paying for it)
-He Signed the Medicare Rx bill (Without paying for it)
-He Bailed Out AIG
-He Bailed out Fannie and Freddie
-HE bailed out the Auto execs
========================================
LOL …. Jay, you are correct. And add to your list this: besides all the “borrowing” that the Republicans do (while they simultaneously cut taxes)…the American public also pays the interest on that borrowed money. These fools don’t realize that the first 1/2 TRILLION dollars that the federal government collects in tax revenue each year goes to pay for the interest on the national debt, the same debt that G.W. Bush raised from $5 Trillion to $10 Trillion (doubled) in his 8 years…. no other President raised the national debt that much in the history of the U.S. Oh, and by the way, Bush also had a full-up Republican congres for the first 6 of his 8 years… LOL.

Posted by: X-Republican Because of Bush | December 3, 2009, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

Come on all you, we are paying for both party’s excesses.
Traditionally the republicans have urged fiscal retraint. that is what this article is about. Democrats have not. Read some history! Obama is a spending machine at this point. He beats all the records. You can pretend it isn’t so, but thats a fact.

Posted by: jonny | December 4, 2009, 7:10 am 7:10 am

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