By Kristina Wong

Dec 30, 2009 1:22pm

Just What Did President Obama’s Executive Order regarding INTERPOL Do?

Some viewers/readers have asked me about an executive order President Obama signed earlier this month regarding INTERPOL, an issue that has exploded on the conservative blogosphere with all sorts of nefarious insinuations and accusations.

Here are some background and the facts:

On June 16, 1983, President Reagan signed Executive Order 12425, which designated the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) as a public international organization entitled to enjoy the privileges, exemptions and immunities conferred by the International Organizations Immunities Act.

The International Organizations Immunities Act, signed into law in 1945, established a special group of foreign or international organizations whose members could work in the U.S. and enjoy certain exemptions from US taxes and search and seizure laws.

Experts say there are about 75 organizations in the US covered by the International Organizations Immunities Act — including the United Nations, the International Atomic Energy Agency, the International Monetary Fund, the International Committee of the Red Cross, even the International Pacific Halibut Commission and Inter-American Tropical Tuna Commission.

(These privileges are not the same as the rights afforded under "diplomatic immunity," they are considerably less. "Diplomatic immunity" comes from the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, which states that a "diplomatic agent shall enjoy immunity from the criminal jurisdiction of the receiving State." That is NOT what the International Organizations Immunities Act is.)

Basically, recognizing a group under the International Organizations Immunities Act means officials from those organizations are exempt from some taxes and customs fees, and that their records cannot be seized.

This, I'm told, is so these organizations can work throughout the world without different countries spying on each other by accessing the records of these groups.

Each president has designated some organizations covered by the International Organizations Immunities Act.

President Nixon did it for the United International Bureaux for the Protection of Intellectual Property.

President Reagan bestowed these privileges to the African Development Bank, the International Boundary and Water Commission, United States and Mexico, and the World Tourism Organization, among others.

President Bush through Executive Orders covered the European Central Bank, the African Union and the Global Fund to Fight AIDS Tuberculosis and Malaria.

INTERPOL is course a different type of organization — it's an investigative law enforcement body. In fact, it's the world’s largest international police organization.

Created in 1923, INTERPOL has 188 member countries including the US. Its purpose is to facilitate cross-border police co-operation and to work with other legitimate law enforcement organizations worldwide to prevent and combat international crime, with a focus on: drugs and criminal organizations; financial and high-tech crime; fugitives; public safety and terrorism; trafficking in human beings; and corruption.

The US historically has participated whole-heartedly in INTERPOL; the current Secretary General of INTERPOL is Ronald Noble, a former Undersecretary of Enforcement of the Department of the Treasury during the Clinton administration.

"The FBI and other law enforcement agencies have closely coordinated with INTERPOL for many, many years," a former counterterrorism official who served during the Bush administration says approvingly.

In Lyon, France, 2003, then-Attorney General John Ashcroft spoke to INTERPOL and said to Noble, "INTERPOL was already a top-flight law enforcement organization, but your dynamic leadership has brought new dimensions to this global crime-fighting resource."

Reagan's 1983 executive order, however, did not provide blanket exemptions for INTERPOL officials, who at the time did not have a permanent office in the US. The provisions of the International Organizations Immunities Act that INTERPOL officials were not exempt from included:

• Section 2(c), which provided officials immunity from their property and assets being searched and confiscated; including their archives;
• the portions of Section 2(d) and Section 3 relating to customs duties and federal internal-revenue importation taxes;
• Section 4, dealing with federal taxes;
• Section 5, dealing with Social Security; and
• Section 6, dealing with property taxes.

I'm told INTERPOL didn't have a permanent office in the US until 2004, which is why it wasn’t until this month afforded the same full privileges given, say, the Inter-American Tropical Tuna Commission by President Kennedy in 1962.

In September 1995, President Clinton updated Reagan's executive order with Executive Order No. 12971, giving INTERPOL officials exemption from some of the customs duties and federal internal-revenue importation taxes’.

Then in his December 17, 2009, executive order President Obama exempted INTERPOL from the rest of the exceptions Reagan listed — Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6.

So what does the counterterrorism official from the Bush years think of this?

He can't believe it's taken this long.

"To the extent that granting these immunities to INTERPOL furthers the efficacy or ease of information-sharing or joint action on an expedited basis to act on warrants
seems like a no brainer to me," the official says.

"Conservatives can't have it both ways," the official says. "You can't be complaining about the hypothetical abdication of US jurisdiction at the same time you're complaining the Obama administration is not being tough enough on national security."

Obama administration officials say this new executive order doesn't allow INTERPOL to do any more than they were allowed to do once Reagan recognized them as a public international organization. Though clearly the Executive Order does prohibit US law enforcement from searching and seizing INTERPOL records, officials say, those provisions can be waived by the president if need be.

- jpt

User Comments

All the way to the end to the meat and potatoes:
“clearly the Executive Order does prohibit US law enforcement from searching and seizing INTERPOL records…”
Thanks, Jake.

Posted by: The Audacity of Golf | December 30, 2009, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

nice work Jake, thanks,
another right wing conspiracy meme
bites the dust.
such reflexive Obama hate and paranoia by the right is truly astonishing, their willingness to lie and distort without shame reaches new lows even for them.

Posted by: Oh Yeah | December 30, 2009, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Thanks for the cogent explanation of Obama’s executive order re: Interpol. Unless someone in the press takes the initiative to push back on political pandering & hypocrisy (wherever it occurs) the public is left with the impression that such conduct is acceptable. It is not & we rely on you to help us “police” (forgive the pun) such transgressions.

Posted by: Pat Tibbs | December 30, 2009, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

The US Constitution allows people to see the evidence against them in order to defend against what they are accused of. Not so under this executive order.
This president routinely gives Constitutional protections to enemy combatants and per this executive order is now taking them away from American citizens.
I cannot imagine what his motive is.

Posted by: Plumber | December 30, 2009, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

Though clearly the Executive Order does prohibit US law enforcement from searching and seizing INTERPOL records,
officials say, those provisions can be waived by the president if need be.
typical of those like The Audacity of Golf to omit all of the info to try and make their ideological point….. absolutely no shame

Posted by: Oh Yeah | December 30, 2009, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

Everyone calm down. Executive orders are only dangerous when issued by a Republican. Let’s move on.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | December 30, 2009, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

Conservatives would again refer to the problem of ‘camel’s nose under tent.’ Is waiver of INTERPOL’s jurisdictional boundaries by POTUS simply another suttle way in providing a path for intrusion into US policy or weakening the American constitution? We must, at all cost, maintain US sovereign rights. We do not trust Obama nor his agenda.

Posted by: Futureicon | December 30, 2009, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

White House correspondent veers into chatty obfuscation, manages to avoid addressing the issue. Disappoints inquiring minds. How far journalism has fallen! Running for job as White House spokesperson?

Posted by: Suzanne | December 30, 2009, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

Pathetic when you use an unnamed official from the Bush admin…who then proceeds to lecture conservatives.

Posted by: deb | December 30, 2009, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

“Conservatives can’t have it both ways,” the official says. “You can’t be complaining about the hypothetical abdication of US jurisdiction at the same time you’re complaining the Obama administration is not being tough enough on national security.”
This statement is dumbfounding and does not answer Andrew McCarthy’s three questions….
Why would we elevate an international police force above American law? Why would we immunize an international police force from the limitations that constrain the FBI and other American law-enforcement agencies? Why is it suddenly necessary to have, within the Justice Department, a repository for stashing government files which, therefore, will be beyond the ability of Congress, American law-enforcement, the media, and the American people to scrutinize?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | December 30, 2009, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

===”The FBI and other law enforcement agencies have closely coordinated with INTERPOL for many, many years,” a former counterterrorism official who served during the Bush administration says approvingly.===
Why not name this former official? I don’t understand what is in this report that would prevent him from speaking on the record.

Posted by: Axey | December 30, 2009, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

Jake,
minor typo – you wrote:
“INTERPOL is course a different type of organization — it’s an investigative law enforcement body. In fact, it’s the world’s largest international police organization.”
I assume you meant:
“INTERPOL is, OF COURSE, a different type of organization — it’s an investigative law enforcement body. In fact, it’s the world’s largest international police organization.”
Also, it would be great to follow-up on a comment from prev. admin official (“why did it take so long?”) – were the previous exceptions causing hardship for INTERPOL or had it not been an issue until recently? In other words, did previous admins (dem & rep) ignore pleas from INTERPOL or did they never have reasonto consider the exceptions?
Thanks,
Ken

Posted by: N2vip | December 30, 2009, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

“Though clearly the Executive Order does prohibit US law enforcement from searching and seizing INTERPOL records, officials say, those provisions can be waived by the president if need be.” Really, Jake? Ex post facto? You know better than that.

Posted by: Clyde | December 30, 2009, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

Pathetic when you use an unnamed official from the Bush admin…who then proceeds to lecture conservatives.
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But it’s perfectly acceptable when the ‘unnamed official’ lectures liberals . . . strange that . ..

Posted by: tierra | December 30, 2009, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

So my understanding is this order takes the power away from the people (protected under the Constitution) and switches it to the President. Because now his branch is the only office to decide when they are under search and seizure and the Freedom of Information Act. HMMMMMM – if Bush was the only one with that power, I wonder how people would feel?

Posted by: Kacey | December 30, 2009, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

tierra – It works both ways. No one should be lecturing in what should have been an informative piece. Especially using unnamed sources.

Posted by: deb | December 30, 2009, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

I’d like to add that a lot of people are making ridiculous claims that Interpol is now, because of this executive order, exempted from Freedom of Information Act requests. The problem with this being that because the Freedom of Information Act only applies to federal agencies it has never applied to Interpol anyway. And also that in the case of discovery Interpol has its own set of rules governing how it processes requests for information which require it to give to any individual who requests it, or anyone who has a legal right to request the information on the individual’s behalf, any information they have on that individual. Thus legal discovery is not in any way curtailed.
Interpol has a website, if anyone really wanted to know what they actually do and what rules they actually have to follow anyone could look there.

Posted by: JacobK | December 30, 2009, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

===But it’s perfectly acceptable when the ‘unnamed official’ lectures liberals ===
It is acceptable to you when that happens?

Posted by: Axey | December 30, 2009, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

Also I almost forgot, Interpol doesn’t do any prosecuting anyway. During the course of a trial whoever the prosecuting party is, the state, the country, whatever, they’ll have all of the relevant information for the trial, and they’re the ones you’d get the information from anyway.

Posted by: JacobK | December 30, 2009, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

All Governments, and agencies, are altruistic, benevolent and for the greater benefit of its people.
Until they aren’t…

Posted by: Keith | December 30, 2009, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

tierra – It works both ways. No one should be lecturing in what should have been an informative piece. Especially using unnamed sources.
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Expert observations are called on all the time in news reporting. Is your problem that it is anonymous?

Posted by: tierra | December 30, 2009, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

Oh yeah, the phrase thrown “officials say, those provisions can be waived by the president if need be” is an afterthought. “If need be”? Why have them at all?
Officials can say anything to qualify and obfuscate facts but the “meat and potatoes” is truly the actual part I quoted:
“clearly the Executive Order does prohibit US law enforcement from searching and seizing INTERPOL records”
It also does not answer McCarthy’s three questions….
Why would we elevate an international police force above American law?
Why would we immunize an international police force from the limitations that constrain the FBI and other American law-enforcement agencies?
Why is it suddenly necessary to have, within the Justice Department, a repository for stashing government files which, therefore, will be beyond the ability of Congress, American law-enforcement, the media, and the American people to scrutinize?

Posted by: The Audacity of Golf | December 30, 2009, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

tierra – It works both ways. No one should be lecturing in what should have been an informative piece. Especially using unnamed sources.
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Expert observations are called on all the time in news reporting. Is your problem that it is anonymous?
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Or is the problem just that conservatives don’t like to be showed up by their own?

Posted by: tierra | December 30, 2009, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

And also that in the case of discovery Interpol has its own set of rules governing how it processes requests for information…
Posted by: JacobK
Sorry. No sale. The United States also has its own set of rules governing how it processes requests for information. If you got a problem with our rules then change them for all.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | December 30, 2009, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Or is the problem just that conservatives don’t like to be showed up by their own?
Posted by: tierra |
And you know the unnamed source is a conservative how?
Why don’t you wait for the talking points to come out. You really struggle without them.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | December 30, 2009, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

===Is your problem that it is anonymous?===
Absolutely. Especially when it is totally unnecessary and your main objective is you just don’t want your readers to know who the official is.

Posted by: Axey | December 30, 2009, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

And you know the unnamed source is a conservative how?
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Bush counter-terrorism officials are usually radical leftists? Hah!

Posted by: tierra | December 30, 2009, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

Technology must be developed where by people are given cards at the airport which when plugged into a database can reveal thier history and whether they are on the no-fly list. People just sail through a smiling security with a swift bag check and clothes sound device. This is not enough. The full tech body check should be immediately used as the Dutch are doing to see naked bodies/bones and any hidden attachments or inserts in the body.

Posted by: suzie | December 30, 2009, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

===Bush counter-terrorism officials are usually radical leftists? Hah!===
Richard Clarke is a former Bush counter-terrorism official. I want to know who the official is. There is no reason to keep the identity secret.

Posted by: Axey | December 30, 2009, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

“…an issue that has exploded on the conservative blogosphere with all sorts of nefarious insinuations and accusations.”
Um, seems to me that description can be used for nearly all of the daily non-troversies cooked up by the patented right-wing noise machine, no?
Don’t they have outrage fatigue yet? It must be exhausting to see every little non-event as “the end of America as we know it!!”

Posted by: Ron | December 30, 2009, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

===Is your problem that it is anonymous?===
Absolutely. Especially when it is totally unnecessary and your main objective is you just don’t want your readers to know who the official is.
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Interesting perspective. The media commonly uses ‘anonymous sources’ – in part so that officials can speak honestly without fear of repercussions. In other words, it protects people who are willing to blow the whistle on wrong doings within government or other organisations.

Posted by: tierra | December 30, 2009, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Or is the problem just that conservatives don’t like to be showed up by their own?
Posted by: tierra | Dec 30, 2009 2:30:35 PM
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The article doesn’t say the official was a conservative.

Posted by: jennifert7 | December 30, 2009, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

Hey,’Oh Yeah’,”Those provisions can be waved by the President if need be”?
What if Americans don’t want one person making this determination? We just went through several years of constitutional wrangling with the Bush White House about presidential powers and Americans said, “Oh no.” Now you want to give this to Obama?

Posted by: Suzanne | December 30, 2009, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

CIA rejects charge it failed to share bomb suspect intelligence…
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and Obama throws another agency under the bus to protect himself
If this were the media, abc, cbs and nbc that were attacked by terrorist… you can bet Obama and Pelosi would be out of Hawaii and on the plane home to put guards around his protectors

Posted by: Obama a "man created disaster" | December 30, 2009, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

The article doesn’t say the official was a conservative.
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Bush counter-terrorism officials are usually radical leftists? Hah!

Posted by: tierra | December 30, 2009, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

In other words, it protects people who are willing to blow the whistle on wrong doings within government or other organisations.
Posted by: tierra |
And that would apply to the current situation how?
For every whistle blown there are thousands of unnamed sourced statements that are intended solely to advance an agenda.
Seriously, the talking points will be out soon. Wait for them.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | December 30, 2009, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

CIA rejects charge it failed to share bomb suspect intelligence…
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and Obama throws another agency under the bus to protect himself
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The new right wing hogwash talking point – as predicted – comes forward.
“It was Obama’s personal fault, not an intelligence breakdown.”
Obama ‘blames’ somebody else by calling for a full investigative review of what happened to allow the incident.

Posted by: tierra | December 30, 2009, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Come on Tierra you know you cant trust or believe anything from an annonymous individual. It would be like someone annonmously accusing you of a crime and you not having the ability to face that person in court. If you cant handle the heat stay out of the kitchen. For all we know it could have been you that provided that information or some hearsy from someone else. No credibility with this story.

Posted by: Pam | December 30, 2009, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

===Is your problem that it is anonymous?===
Absolutely. Especially when it is totally unnecessary and your main objective is you just don’t want your readers to know who the official is.
Posted by: Axey | Dec 30, 2009 2:35:15 PM
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Followed by reasons for using anonymous sources.
Is it possible the anonymous source mentioned in this article might have his/her current employment affected by his ‘honest comments’? Yes, it is.

Posted by: tierra | December 30, 2009, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

Hey Tierra:
No radical leftists in the Bush Administration? Hmmm…
15 billion to Africa for AIDS. Increased foreign aid. Open borders. Shamnesty. Stimulus package. Expansion of government.
Sounds like a raving leftist to me.

Posted by: mouse | December 30, 2009, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

Hey,’Oh Yeah’,
What if Americans don’t want one person making this determination?
Posted by: Suzanne
this may come as a shock to you, brace yourself, there is this thing that happens every 4 years, it’s called an election, I’ve heard rumors that millions participate, vast media coverage,.. it’s been said, that to a great extent, ‘we the people’ sort of get to decide, as they say, ‘who is in and who is out’.
further, Americans elect officials who can by legislation enact, change and delete laws, if enough Americans elect politicians with your perspective, your concerns will win the day..
I believe it was the esteemed Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, who with great insight stated that: ‘elections have consequences’.

Posted by: Oh Yeah | December 30, 2009, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

Why would we elevate an international police force above American law?
Why would we immunize an international police force from the limitations that constrain the FBI and other American law-enforcement agencies?
Why is it suddenly necessary to have, within the Justice Department, a repository for stashing government files which, therefore, will be beyond the ability of Congress, American law-enforcement, the media, and the American people to scrutinize?
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anyone who doesn’t question this should have their heads checked…and from what I read Jake, this was kinda on the down low? Pres. signed it in Hawaii overnight?
Transparency….there’s that word again.
How about he show us his Columbia school records?

Posted by: mjishernameo | December 30, 2009, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

“Though clearly the Executive Order does prohibit US law enforcement from searching and seizing INTERPOL records, officials say, those provisions can be waived by the president if need be.”
Wow, so if the foreign cops are suspected of something, you ONLY have to go to the White House to get permission to investigate.
Impressive. This is so much better than petitioning GOD for permission.

Posted by: Kate Stonehedge | December 30, 2009, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

“Though clearly the Executive Order does prohibit US law enforcement from searching and seizing INTERPOL records, officials say, those provisions can be waived by the president if need be.”
Mr. Tapper: you put the most important point in your last sentence. I think that’s what they call “burying the lede,” no? This is the throbbing gravamen of the entire issue to conservatives: the President has established an repository for foreign intelligence data completely beyond the reach of the American people and all constitutional appeals, and which only he can rescind.
Otherwise, an excellent apologia for Obama.

Posted by: rrpjr | December 30, 2009, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

Why complete inmmunity?Was not the chief of Mexico’s interpool Gutierrez Vargas, arrested last year for cooperating with drug lords? What if it happens here? they were paid up to 450.000 a month money talks.

Posted by: sue | December 30, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

They should arrest Obama as a global conspirator in the green scam.

Posted by: mark | December 30, 2009, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Glad to see abc news is still standing by their man Nobama. This is no good for America but leave it to abc news to twist the story

Posted by: s | December 30, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

In the article a “counterterrorism official from the Bush years”, says “Conservatives can’t have it both ways,”…”You can’t be complaining about the hypothetical abdication of US jurisdiction at the same time you’re complaining the Obama administration is not being tough enough on national security.”
This bozo might be right, IF national security were just a matter of law enforcement, but it is not, it is also a military matter and the prosecution of terrorists as mere criminals and not wartime combatants is just plain stupid. I suppose that if Obama were in the White House in Dec 1944, there would have been no World War, just a few INTERPOL agents sent out to arrest General Tojo and Admiral Yamamoto, for committing resources to and planning Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: JonW | December 30, 2009, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

This is so much better than petitioning GOD for permission.
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You mean like Bush did for his attack on Iraq?

Posted by: tierra | December 30, 2009, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

nice work Jake, thanks,
another right wing conspiracy meme
bites the dust…
Posted by: Oh Yeah | Dec 30, 2009 1:39:37 PM

Ummm…
I don’t even get it. Why in the heck was there an explosion “on the conservative blogosphere with all sorts of nefarious insinuations and accusations.”? I saw mention of it on a thread here yesterday and thought it was somehow important.
Anyway…I agree on the nice work, Jake– now I know this is a nonissue that isn’t worth a lot of energy or concern. Meanwhile, a big what the heck to those spreading the nefarious insinuations and accusations. We have enough real problems– let’s not create fictional ones.

Posted by: There is no Planet B | December 30, 2009, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Republicans need to shut up with the criticism because this is exactly the system they left behind. Technology is the key to ending the airline delemna with terrorists, including technology that scans a plane before take off that can detect devices all luggage, plane equipment etc. It is amazing no emphasis has been placed on use of technology and its development to ward off and deter terrorist attacks.

Posted by: John | December 30, 2009, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

How about he show us his Columbia school records?
Posted by: mjishernameo
can’t you guys get this straight yet ?
the school records are in Kenya, in the radical muslim mosque, next to the real birth certificate which is under the box that has the real Vince Foster info.

Posted by: XX | December 30, 2009, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

Interpol has always had these considerations now it has been made official. Thus it protects them from some hair brained sheriff or other nut case law official from seeking front page for personal gain. One time Obama is right, and any president not just this one time guy can change the deal.

Posted by: earl | December 30, 2009, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

I don’t even get it. Why in the heck was there an explosion “on the conservative blogosphere with all sorts of nefarious insinuations and accusations.”?
Posted by: There is no Planet B
other than nefarious insinuations and accusations, what else do they have to offer policy wise, it’s not random chance that amount of time republicans spend on policy discussions is almost nil.

Posted by: XX | December 30, 2009, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

Posted by: William in Arizona
say hi to
Joe Arpaio, the Sheriff of Maricopa County,
what’s his latest caziness?

Posted by: XX | December 30, 2009, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

the school records are in Kenya, in the radical muslim mosque, next to the real birth certificate which is under the box that has the real Vince Foster info.
Posted by: XX | Dec 30, 2009 3:25:53 PM
….
I like that. Very funny. I think I read that only Interpol has access.

Posted by: There is no Planet B | December 30, 2009, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Other than Jake’s unnamed source, not one of you has made an argument for why this was necessary.
Additionally can we now conclude that all the howling about trampling on the constitution etc during the Bush years was just political noise and that you really don’t care if a president issues executive orders like these or if law enforcement listens in on American’s phone calls or investigates the library books we’ve checked out and they are all but unaccountable for it?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | December 30, 2009, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

It must be exhausting to see every little non-event as “the end of America as we know it!!”
Posted by: Ron | Dec 30, 2009 2:45:47 PM
I take it you’ve never heard the “how to boil a frog” story…

Posted by: Live! From DC! It's Sat Night! | December 30, 2009, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

As if all the earlier presidents granting them various privileges is ok? Hey Jake, did you forget to mention we are also strongly considering inclusion in the International Criminal Court? Add the Interpol new freedoms to that and what do you get? Here’s a “what if”: our drones have gone off and killed civilians. Those governments demand the operator be brought before the ICC. That involves Interpol. Off the operator goes with no ability to subpoena their records.
Fine, let it all go to hell, you people never have the ability to look ahead, you would just rather “wait and see” if something goes wrong. It’s called “action of unintented consequences”.

Posted by: Libertarian Woman | December 30, 2009, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

I need Tapper to go back to his unnamed source and find out exactly how Obama was going to show he was tough on national security by quietly signing and releasing the amended EO. I think the former Bush counter-terrorism official just threw out a quote for Tapper to use, whether it made sense or not.

Posted by: Axey | December 30, 2009, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Several posts point out the crux of the issue quite well

where are they? here? because if so, I assure you, they do not point out the crux of the problem clearly or well to someone not prone to paranoid type thinking or getting all ginned up about every little speculative thing.Rather than calling people selfish and ignorant, why don’t you spell it out in a calm, clear way, refuting Jake’s post point by point.
As Ron said, “It must be exhausting to see every little non-event as “the end of America as we know it!!”

Posted by: There is no Planet B | December 30, 2009, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

There is No Planet B – I gave you one what if. You can’t take it from there, well some people just can’t be helped.

Posted by: Libertarian Woman | December 30, 2009, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

As Ron said, “It must be exhausting to see every little non-event as “the end of America as we know it!!”
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Hahaha . . . exactly!
And just as the recent Anti-Defamation League report documented.

Posted by: tierra | December 30, 2009, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

“…clearly the Executive Order does prohibit US law enforcement from searching and seizing INTERPOL records, officials say, those provisions can be waived by the president if need be….”
“..waived by the president if need be….”
I feel so reassured now.
/sarc

Posted by: Yehudit | December 30, 2009, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

. Though clearly the Executive Order does prohibit US law enforcement from searching and seizing INTERPOL records, officials say, those provisions can be waived by the president if need be.
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That seems pretty pointless, no?

Posted by: MayBee | December 30, 2009, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

Interpol property is now completely sealed from the US law enforcement and courts. No freedom of information act for Interpol either. Now, I would want to understand why Interpol needs more protection from the public than CIA and FBI? Anybody care to speculate? Is this not a violation of our civil liberty? And if not – why not?

Posted by: Hyphenated American | December 30, 2009, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

Broke Another Campaign Promise
… Just last week, Obama broke his promise as he signed into law the 2010 Defense Appropriations Bill — a $636 billion behemoth loaded with $4.2 billion of pork …
Barack = Broke

Posted by: talk from sf | December 30, 2009, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

===That seems pretty pointless, no?===
Kind of par for the course with this administration.

Posted by: Axey | December 30, 2009, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

Glad to see abc news is still standing by their man Nobama. This is no good for America but leave it to abc news to twist the story
Posted by: s
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I would disagree for Tapper. ABC News as a whole definitely.
However from past experience and articles I find Jake Tapper to be a good investigative reporter who will investigate both sides and I think is as straight as the editors allow. he is the only person I can think of at abc where I will actually read his political articles.

Posted by: Cryos | December 30, 2009, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

Other than Jake’s unnamed source, not one of you has made an argument for why this was necessary.
Additionally can we now conclude that all the howling about trampling on the constitution etc during the Bush years was just political noise and that you really don’t care if a president issues executive orders like these or if law enforcement listens in on American’s phone calls or investigates the library books we’ve checked out and they are all but unaccountable for it?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | Dec 30, 2009 3:48:23 PM
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Yeah with all the hypocrisy, backtracking, double standards, etc liberals have reminded america not to listen when they froth at the mouth.
They have the economic logic of a child and will lie to any degree and use any means to achieve their ideals.
I think rational americans mistakenly thought they were sincere through the Bush criticism but have learned again now that they see them in power.
Democratic party: We don’t care what you want. We’ll take everything and give you back what we decide you need.

Posted by: Cryos | December 30, 2009, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

Bush petitioned Congress for his attack on Iraq and your liberal buddies went along with him.
Oh and I believe your liberal buddies are the ones extending the war right now. Odd how Iraq isn’t on the headlines everyday like it was when Bush was President.

Posted by: rick | December 30, 2009, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

Other than Jake’s unnamed source, not one of you has made an argument for why this was necessary.
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Jake’s unnamed source is an experienced counter-terrorism official (under Bush). People on here are not.

Posted by: tierra | December 30, 2009, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

Jake’s unnamed source is an experienced counter-terrorism official (under Bush). People on here are not.
Not so fast little lady…

Posted by: experienced counter-terrorism official | December 30, 2009, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

There is No Planet B – I gave you one what if. You can’t take it from there, well some people just can’t be helped.
Posted by: Libertarian Woman | Dec 30, 2009 4:05:16 PM
Thanks. I read your blog post about the nefarious government scheme to seize all American soil in the name of environmentalism and realized I’m definitely an “other” for ya– one of those “you people.” But I did like the what if.
Here’s the thing. I consider Jake much more conservative– or maybe steadfastly centrist or poltically agnostic– than me. Often he seems to hold more of an invested opinion in pop culture than a political party or ideology. I have no idea what ideology he ascribes to, if any. I don’t think he takes sides. He sometimes goes for the sensationalism or the he said/she said controversy, and I don’t always like that (and I hope he smiles more or maybe just relaxes a little– just a smidge– when/if he takes over This Week!) but he always seems interested in getting at the problem, working up a little drama or conflict. Telling the story. None of that is said in a bad way. Basically, IF there was a story to be made out of this, I think he’d make it, and nobody’s really taking on his points and disproving them. I just don’t feel worked up about it and I think this is an important quote:
“To the extent that granting these immunities to INTERPOL furthers the efficacy or ease of information-sharing or joint action on an expedited basis to act on warrants
seems like a no brainer to me,” the official says.
“Conservatives can’t have it both ways,” the official says. “You can’t be complaining about the hypothetical abdication of US jurisdiction at the same time you’re complaining the Obama administration is not being tough enough on national security.”
Obama administration officials say this new executive order doesn’t allow INTERPOL to do any more than they were allowed to do once Reagan recognized them as a public international organization”
– Seems fine to me based on what’s here, which is pretty much all I know about this issue.

Posted by: There is no Planet B | December 30, 2009, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

Republicans are draft-dodging paper tigers. Bush did not even bother heeding to the dire security warning before 9/11. Obama not only did come out with a statement right after the attack, but also took FULL RESPONSIBILITY for the failure. The Republicans WILL NEVER take responsibility for any failure EVER. Moreover like Rep Hoekstra, they will use this incident to enrich his coffers. So on top of draft-dodging paper tigers, they are money-hungry opportunists who will capitalize on anything to prosper their agenda.

Posted by: GuyfromLA | December 30, 2009, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

Obama was drafted?

Posted by: The Audacity of Golf | December 30, 2009, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

Obama was drafted?
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No, Cheney dodged the draft and the military completely; the ultimate strutting patriot coward. How many times did Cheney dodge the draft? Read a little history, there was no draft when Obama was military age.

Posted by: tierra | December 30, 2009, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

Cheney dodged the draft? What did he do run away to Canada? Oddly enough, had Cheney been drafted he would have cleared security – Obama would not have.

Posted by: Jimbo | December 30, 2009, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

The communists were right – this country will collapse from within – OBAMA IS LEADING THE WAY!!!

Posted by: Manitu | December 30, 2009, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

Cheney dodged the draft?
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Yes he did, the question was how many times?

Posted by: tierra | December 30, 2009, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

“Bush did not even bother heeding to the dire security warning before 9/11.”
Posted by: GuyfromLA | Dec 30, 2009 6:40:06 PM
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Have you even read the Presidential Daily Briefing dated August 6, 2001 entitled “Bin Ladin Determined To Strike In US?” Are you aware that this PDB was issued BECAUSE of the questions that President Bush asked of the intelligence officials?
The last two paragraphs state:
“Nevertheless, FBI information since that time (1998) indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.
“The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full-field investigations throughout the U.S. that it considers bin Laden-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group or bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives.”
Following the PDB of August 6th, President Bush and the National Security Agency began planning changes that might have actually prevented the attacks had they had a few more weeks to implement the changes. One of the areas looked at was the “wall” which PREVENTED law enforcement from communicating with the intelligence agencies. The PDB mentions that BOTH the CIA and the FBI were investigating the SAME call to our embassy in the UAE. Had they had a joint investigation would that have prevented 9/11? We will never know.
But the main point is that AT NO TIME was there ever a credible warning with specifics of an imminent threat. Therefore this WAS NOT a “dire security warning.”

Posted by: James Danley | December 30, 2009, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

I’d like to add that a lot of people are making ridiculous claims that Interpol is now, because of this executive order, exempted from Freedom of Information Act requests. The problem with this being that because the Freedom of Information Act only applies to federal agencies it has never applied to Interpol anyway. And also that in the case of discovery Interpol has its own set of rules governing how it processes requests for information which require it to give to any individual who requests it, or anyone who has a legal right to request the information on the individual’s behalf, any information they have on that individual. Thus legal discovery is not in any way curtailed.
Interpol has a website, if anyone really wanted to know what they actually do and what rules they actually have to follow anyone could look there.
Posted by: JacobK | Dec 30, 2009 2:20:21 PM
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This is a very informative post– thanks. I’ve also now read an article at the NYT called “Order on Interpol Work Inside U.S. Irks Conservatives ” by Charlie Savage. A couple of related points:
‘LaTonya Miller, the spokeswoman for the Justice Department’s Interpol bureau, said the order would have no effect on the bureau. It routinely receives and responds to Freedom of Information Act requests, she said, and will continue to do so.
“Nothing has changed,” she said. “We’ve been really concerned about all the misinformation that has been out there on the blogs.”’

Posted by: There is no Planet B | December 30, 2009, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

The August,2001 PDB was classified. At least, that’s what Cheney/bush told everyone. How did Mr. Danley manage to release it? Of course, he just happened to omit the portion relased by the 911 commission indicating that “aircraft” were part of the likely attack

Posted by: B. Bear | December 30, 2009, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

What is good is that Obama’s every move is now being watched, and questioned! Even ABC is taking a second look at Obama, Fox News is no longer alone!
Maybe, just maybe, such scrutiny will in the end save America. Up to this month Obama has enjoyed what author Bernard Goldberg entitled his book “A Slobbering Love Affair: The True (and Pathetic) Story of the Torid Romance between Barack obama and the Mainstream Media”.

Posted by: Ed Taylor | December 30, 2009, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

CIA caught a suspect and released him recently because they feared if they held the detainee too long Obama administration would prosecute them. It turns out that suspect was a high level al queda official. Also Obama won’t allow U.S forces to hit taliban who are firing from buildings and one instance they escaped as they dressed as women. A U.S base also was supposed to be moved from an outpost but was delayed because of Obama’s dithering and 9 u.s soldiers wound up getting killed.
Obama during the campaign said ICE agents were terorizing illegals. When obama took office he stopped all ICE raids on work sites. Obama and Napalitano cancelled an ICE raid against 100 illegals. Obama also released 27 illegals who were arrested before his policies could be put in place.
Obama last week released 6 yemen terrorists to yemen even though yemen is now a hotbed of terrorism. A yemeni radical cleric was involved in fort hood massacre yet Obama still went ahead with the release. Obama had gates praise the saudi rehab program in may when in february saudi arabia itself called it a failure. Yet still Obama wanted saudis to take in some yemen prisoners. Now Obama came up with the terrible idea of having yemen have the same rehab center for terrorists where they can come and go. But Yemen has an even weaker elder system.
Obama wants to please the elite leftists. Obama has some military tribunals but has these high profile trials to please leftist elite.
Obama wants to hold some prisoners indefinately yet releases all these to yemen. Some of the six Obama released last week went to afghanistan to fight us. One was caught near tora bora guarding bin laden yet Obama released him.
Obama as a lawyer is afraid of the courts. He will never appeal a ruling and five of the six released weren’t even in the court process yet Obama was fearful of the courts being involved so just released them. Obama has spent so much time sending officials to yemen to release these terrorists.
Obama also stopped the Bush policy of acting on u.s interests in yemen. Under Bush if the military wanted to go after al queda with drones they did. Under Obama we have to be the lackeys of the corrupt yemen president. So the corrupt yemen president has us using our resources to go after his shia enemies in yemen. These shia aren’t involved in al queda and yet Obama is doing this yemen president’s bidding in a civil war. That is what is even more destabling yemen and yet Obama has picked yemen to send all these detainees.
And Obama will move the courts further to the left. 5 supreme court justices are over 70 so Obama could get 6 supreme court justices and it could be the Obama court for the next 30 years. Justice Stevens is stepping down next year giving Obama back to back supreme court picks next year.
America handed over more power to Obama than any president ever. They gave him a filibuster proof president with specter’s switch, huge majority in the house and six supreme court justices over 70 who are retiring soon.
This is truly Obama’s nation he has more power than FDR had.

Posted by: jason | December 30, 2009, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

Obama just last week released six hard core yemen terrorists to go free. They are going free and can come and go from a rehab program and walk away.
Obama is still persisting with releasing 90 more hard core yemen terrorists the ones with the longest terrorist track records. Obama officials even admit they are threats but are still releasing them.
But Obama has no worries because he has the MSM supporting him.
Chris Mathews hold Obama to account?
Keith Olbermann hold Obama to account?
Paul Krugman hold Obama to account?
Howard Fineman hold Obama to account?
Rachel Maddow hold Obama to account?
Wolf Blitzer hold Obama to account?
Larry King? Who and anyone that questions Obama’s policies is dismissed as a radical.
The leftists have taken over this country. They have won.

Posted by: jason | December 30, 2009, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm

Cheney dodged the draft?
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Yes he did, the question was how many times?

Speaking of Cheney, Rep. Eric Massa (who has actually served in the military) lambasted him tonite on the Ed Show. Everybody should watch the clip.
Also Dan Pfeiffer’s WH blog called “The Same Old Washington Blame Game” is very good:
“There has been a lot of discussion online and in the mainstream media about our response to various critics of the President, specifically former Vice President Cheney, who have been coming out of the woodwork since the incident on Christmas Day. I think we all agree that there should be honest debate about these issues, but it is telling that Vice President Cheney and others seem to be more focused on criticizing the Administration than condemning the attackers…To put it simply: this President is not interested in bellicose rhetoric, he is focused on action. Seven years of bellicose rhetoric failed to reduce the threat from al Qaeda and succeeded in dividing this country. And it seems strangely off-key now, at a time when our country is under attack, for the architect of those policies to be attacking the President.”
He also addresses the peculiar accusation from Cheney that the President needs to realize we are at War, an accusation I just find particularly lame. Ummm…Hello? Cheney? Ya think maybe sending 30K+ more troops to Afghanistan may have anything at all to do with realizing we are at war?

Posted by: There is no Planet B | December 30, 2009, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

The leftists have taken over this country. They have won.
Posted by: jason
haven’t gotten over the election yet, have you,
re: ‘America handed over more power to Obama than any president ever. They gave him a filibuster proof president with specter’s switch, huge majority in the house
dude, it’s called an election, and it’s not as if the same thing hasn’t happened when republicans ruled the roost…
here’s one more thing to worry about, asteroid hitting the earth around 2035, remember, Obama is pro-asteroid

Posted by: XX | December 30, 2009, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

I think Cheney received 5 or 6 deferments..

Posted by: XX | December 30, 2009, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm

This one surprises me . . .
“The revelation came this morning, when CIA Director George Tenet was on the stand. Timothy Roemer, a former Democratic congressman, asked him when he first found out about the report from the FBI’s Minnesota field office that Zacarias Moussaoui, an Islamic jihadist, had been taking lessons on how to fly a 747. Tenet replied that he was briefed about the case on Aug. 23 or 24, 2001.
Roemer then asked Tenet if he mentioned Moussaoui to President Bush at one of their frequent morning briefings. Tenet replied, “I was not in briefings at this time.” Bush, he noted, “was on vacation.” He added that he didn’t see the president at all in August 2001. During the entire month, Bush was at his ranch in Texas. “You never talked with him?” Roemer asked. “No,” Tenet replied. By the way, for much of August, Tenet too was, as he put it, “on leave.”
Slate April 14, 2004

Posted by: tierra | December 30, 2009, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

The August 6, 2001 PDB was declassified and approved for release on April 10, 2004 for the 9/11 Commission. It has since been posted on the Internet.
You can Google “Bin Ladin Determined To Strike In US” and read the entire PDB for yourself. The only mention of “aircraft” is the following excerpt:
“We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a [--] service in 1998 saying that Bin Ladin wanted to hijack a US aircraft to gain the release of ‘Blind Shaykh’ ‘Umar ‘Abd al-Rahman and other US-held extremists.”

Posted by: James Danley | December 30, 2009, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

The IOIA (and the UN Convention on Immunities) are both unconstitutional under US law, and both are being challenged as such in 2 appeals currently awaiting decision before the 2nd Circuit Ct of Appeals in NYC (08cv2799, and 08cv3999. International organisations such as Interpol and the UN are not sovereign states, and their officials are not diplomatic agents of a sovereign state–therefore, the immunity afforded them under the IOIA has no historical or constitutional basis, and such immunity in fact violates the 1st, 5th, 7th and 14th Amendment rights of all Americans injured by international organisations who are prevented from vindicating their claims through the courts on account of the immunity afforded by the IOIA.
IMHO, all immunities of international organisations (including the UN) should be completely eliminated, not increased as in the case of the recent Obama Executive Order.

Posted by: Prince Kofi Milquetoast | December 31, 2009, 12:23 am 12:23 am

I’d like to add that a lot of people are making ridiculous claims that Interpol is now, because of this executive order, exempted from Freedom of Information Act requests. The problem with this being that because the Freedom of Information Act only applies to federal agencies it has never applied to Interpol anyway. And also that in the case of discovery Interpol has its own set of rules governing how it processes requests for information which require it to give to any individual who requests it, or anyone who has a legal right to request the information on the individual’s behalf, any information they have on that individual. Thus legal discovery is not in any way curtailed.
Interpol has a website, if anyone really wanted to know what they actually do and what rules they actually have to follow anyone could look there.
Posted by: JacobK | Dec 30, 2009 2:20:21 PM
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Interesting.

Posted by: tierra | December 31, 2009, 1:20 am 1:20 am

Wasn’t the trojan horse a gift that turned out to be a trick?

Posted by: teadrinker | December 31, 2009, 1:22 am 1:22 am

Regarding former CIA Director George Tenet’s April 14, 2004 testimony, in a Washington Post article entitled “Forgotten Briefings of August 2001,” by staff writer, Dana Priest, published on April 15, 2004–the day after Tenet’s testimony–is the following excerpt:
” ‘That’s an amazing story (Tenet testifying that he did not speak to President Bush in August 2001),’ one reporter said, seeking an explanation from CIA spokesman Bill Harlow.
” ‘Yeah, but it’s not accurate,’ Harlow said, a response usually reserved for critics alleging CIA secret operations, wrongdoing or incompetence.
“CIA records show that Tenet briefed the president twice in August — once in Crawford, Tex., on Aug. 17, and once in Washington, on Aug. 31. A CIA analyst who accompanied Bush on his vacation briefed him approximately six days a week, Harlow said. It is likely that Tenet spoke to Bush by phone, he added, but the complete record is not yet available.
” ‘He momentarily forgot,’ Harlow said of Tenet.”
What is truly shocking is that Tenet NEVER briefed the White House regarding Zacarias Moussaoui until AFTER 9/11.

Posted by: James Danley | December 31, 2009, 1:48 am 1:48 am

XX said:
“dude, it’s called an election, and it’s not as if the same thing hasn’t happened when republicans ruled the roost…”
I forget, when did the Republicans hold the White House and both houses of Congress with absolute, filibuster-proof majorities?
The 1994 mid-term election that saw Republicans hold majorities was during a Democratic administration…
The only other time I’m aware of was in 1953, when Republicans held a majority in both houses, and had a Republican President – and they RAMMED that 25 page Interstate Highway System bill down the throat of America in 1956! What a farce, those two-faced Republicans did exactly the same thing as Obama/Pelosi/Reid, but they did it in one one-hundredth as many pages, built something we could use, and, I’m pretty sure, got support from both sides of the aisle…
If you have better info XX, please do share… (I’m only aware of the last 50 years give or take)

Posted by: n2vip | December 31, 2009, 3:02 am 3:02 am

GuyFromLA said:
“Obama not only did come out with a statement right after the attack, but also took FULL RESPONSIBILITY for the failure.”
Uh, yeah, just as soon as Gibbs and Napolitano got laughed off the Sunday morning shows claiming “success” in foiling the attacks.
They were what we like to call trial balloons, and no one bought it. So the President manned up and blammed policies that were put in place in the previous administration. How “big” of him, what a sterling example of leadership. President Obama blammed low-level workers in the government and policies from previous adminsitrations.
I guess Bush should have blamed the previous administration (for refusing to take Bin Ladin when it had the chance) and for Jamie Gorelick’s “wall” between the CIA and FBI limiting the sharing of information on investigations, based on Obama’s superior example of leadership and courage…

Posted by: n2vip | December 31, 2009, 3:10 am 3:10 am

XX said:
“it’s not random chance that amount of time republicans spend on policy discussions is almost nil.”
Yeah, I’m sure Rep. Pelosi and Sen. Reid will clear time on the house and senate floors to consider and debate a bill that comes from the party that DOESN’T have a fillibuster-proof majority?
The Republicans have put out plans and ideas, but the democrats ant the press poo-poo them and pull an Office Barbrady (from South Park – “move along people, nothing to see here…”).

Posted by: n2vip | December 31, 2009, 3:27 am 3:27 am

Can anyone explain to me how LIMITING our access to INTERPOL files eases information sharing?
Did anyone even proof-read this to see if it made sense?

Posted by: Damien Foord | December 31, 2009, 4:04 am 4:04 am

The unsubstantiated claim that IOIA is unconstitutional by violating several amendments is disproved by this statement near the beginning of article III:
In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.
“with such exceptions … as the Congress shall make.” That would include “An act To extend certain privileges, exemptions, and immunities to international organizations and to the officers and employees thereof, and for other purposes.” HR 4489, which became public law 291.

Posted by: Bill Michtom | December 31, 2009, 4:09 am 4:09 am

Prince Kofi Milquetoast claims the IOIA is unconstitutional and notes that it is being challenged. Mr. M implies that the challenge somehow makes his unsupported statement valid. It does not. That a case is brought proves nothing.
An opinion from a 1998 case in the DC Court of Appeals started thusly:
“This case involves a well-known method of enforcing a judgment and a little-known immunity from judicial process. Appellant, in an effort to enforce two
state court judgments against her former husband by garnishing his wages, sought a declaratory judgment in the district court that her husband’s employer, a financial institution protected by the International Organizations Immunities Act, is not immune from garnishment proceedings under that Act. The district court, concluding that the employer was entitled to immunity under the Act, dismissed the declaratory judgment action. We affirm.”

Posted by: Bill Michtom | December 31, 2009, 5:02 am 5:02 am

And why did Obama give back the Shoe Bombers rights in jail?
WHY IS THIS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN?
Terrorism wins again. Shoe Bomber Richard Reid, who tried to light a shoe bomb on American Airlines Flight 63, has won the right to meet with other al Qaeda members in prison to “pray,” and worship.He may have more access to written communication inside the prison and out.
AND OBAMA wants us to trust other Terrorists to be locked up in PRISON?
NO WAY

Posted by: ChicagoBob | December 31, 2009, 8:39 am 8:39 am

So why didn’t you name this “former counterterrorism official who served during the Bush administration”?
If he or she is so confident this is a good thing, you’d think he’d have the guts to go on the record about it.
Or perhaps it’s one of the counterterrorism officials charged with subverting the Constitution and the rights of American citizens, in which case it would be counter-productive to his argument to be public about this.
Incidentally, a single unnamed member of both the Bush and Obama administrations told me this EO modification is dangerous to American rights.
But I won’t tell you who said it. Does that me a Pro Fessional Jernalist?

Posted by: Joe Schmoe | December 31, 2009, 9:46 am 9:46 am

What is truly shocking is that Tenet NEVER briefed the White House regarding Zacarias Moussaoui until AFTER 9/11.
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Isn’t it just! And even after the August 6th warning that Bin Laden was determined to strike inside the United States and that planes could be used.

Posted by: tierra | December 31, 2009, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

Obama will go down as the First Black President and the WORST. He is a bitter person and married one too. Something tells me he will be the last black man to ever be elected again…sad.

Posted by: Insightful | December 31, 2009, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

This is crazy, Interpol is a international law enforcement group.
Why are they here?
They have no right to regulate Americans.
Got treason?

Posted by: Chris | December 31, 2009, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Jake,
You need to do a little more fact-checking. You wrote:
“(These privileges are not the same as the rights afforded under “diplomatic immunity,” they are considerably less. “Diplomatic immunity” comes from the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, which states that a “diplomatic agent shall enjoy immunity from the criminal jurisdiction of the receiving State.” That is NOT what the International Organizations Immunities Act is.)”
The International Organizations Immunities Act is considerably more than that.
Here’s Section 2(b):
International organizations, their property and assets, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall enjoy the same immunity from suit and every form of Judicial process as is enjoyed by foreign governments, except to the extent that such organizations may expressly waive their immunity for the purpose of any proceedings or by the terms of any contract.
Of course, Section 2(b) has been in effect for INTERPOL since Pres. Reagan’s PO back in 1983.

Posted by: i_raps | December 31, 2009, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

So what is 0bama attempting to hide?
This guy is so anti-american that I think he would sell us out to his communist buddies. I don’t trust 0bama in the least.
If I was to guess, I think this has something to do with the United Nations and the proposed small arms treaty that 0bama and Hillary want so bad. Get ready America to defend your country and your constitution. 0bama won’t. The constitution is an obstruction in the way of his takeover.

Posted by: PB_Steve | December 31, 2009, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

It would allow Interpol to arrest Bush and Cheney and bring them to Europe to be tried in a World Court.
Put this together, Jake- with your other post about Obama declassifying Bush secrets.
Obama always does things for a specific reason.

Posted by: drjohn | January 1, 2010, 10:56 am 10:56 am

When does Jake ask hard questions and get real answers ?
Why Immunity for Interpol? [Andy McCarthy]
I asked here a week ago why President Obama decided it was suddenly necessary to place the international police agency, Interpol, above the constraints of American law. There has been no answer, but the question is is not going away — not until the President explains himself.
This morning, I had the pleasure of spending a few minutes with Rick Santorum, who — even on New Year’s Day — was pulling his usual Friday duty as host of Bill Bennett’s show. The plan was to talk about the Christmas airplane terror attack, but the first caller, who was very well-informed and alarmed, wanted to talk about Interpol. I don’t blame her.
Mark Tapscott has thoughts at the Washington Examiner. Mark points out something I’d forgotten: “Interpol and ICC [the Intenrational Criminal Court] … took seriously Iran’s Oct. 3, 2009, request that 25 top Israeli civilian and military officials be placed on the international ‘Most Wanted’ list because of their actions in Gaza against murderous Palestinian radicals.”
Mark also observes that an Obama offical told the New York Times that the administration has not explained the President’s decision to immunize Interpol because — notwithstanding that the President took pains to amend a longstanding, Reagan-era executive order (EO 12425) and the White House issued a press release announcing tha the had done so — “there is nothing newsworthy here.” [By the way, I love the fact that, to Charlie Gibson and the rest of the Obama press office at the Times, the interesting part of this story is not the immunization of a police force but the fact that Obama's decision "irks conservatives."] Mark counters:
If there is nothing newsworthy involved, then why won’t the White House answer these basic questions regarding the EO?
* Every other international organization granted such exemptions deals with mundane issues like fish – the International Pacific Halibut Commission – or disaster aid – the Red Cross. But Interpol is a law enforcement operation. Why does President Obama think it appropriate to give such exemptions to an international law enforcement operation, and what does he want Interpol to do here in the U.S. in the future with the exemptions that it cannot do now without the exemptions?
* Does the search and seizure exemption extend to the activities and documents created by U.S. Department of Justice employees working with and for Interpol in New York and Washington, D.C.? If these employees and activities were already exempt from coverage of the federal Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), why have FOIA requests concerning them been previously answered?
Good questions. When do we get the answers?

Posted by: CapCube | January 1, 2010, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

If there is nothing newsworthy involved, then why won’t the White House answer these basic questions regarding the EO?
Posted by: CapCube
because, they don’t want to deny the conspiracy nuts continued opportunities to be crazy and make fools of themselves

Posted by: XX | January 1, 2010, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

According to Howstuffworks (I know, but I looked everywhere to find an explanation), Interpol opens up an office in NY in 2004, but it’s not a US office, it’s a liason with the UN. So, was this EO amended so the UN could have its own office on US soil without US jurisdiction? Is that why? If so, than why not say? Does a UN office in the US theoretical weaken sovereignty and diminish the Constitutional rights of US citizens under investigation by Interpol?

Posted by: KCL | January 2, 2010, 1:23 am 1:23 am

If this order doesn’t change anything according to the White House, then why would the White House issue it? There must be a reason.
There is no such thing as losing a little Constitutional Rights and Freedoms.
This was done for a reason, now tell me what was the reason and how does that not infringe on my rights.
Again, no change no need to issue it.

Posted by: John | January 2, 2010, 8:53 am 8:53 am

Mr. Tapper, when are you going to find out what is really going on? Why would the president give more power to Interpol than our own CIA and FBI have? Will they be answering to Interpol? What is really going on?

Posted by: Virginia | January 2, 2010, 9:18 am 9:18 am

“Conservatives can’t have it both ways,” the official says. “You can’t be complaining about the hypothetical abdication of US jurisdiction at the same time you’re complaining the Obama administration is not being tough enough on national security.”
This is an absurd comment. You most certainly CAN say that Obama is weak on National Security without then also subjugating the citizens of the United States to the investigative whims of a foreign entity within our own country. An organization that now officially can’t be touched.
If they choose to harrass an American citizen, there is nothing anyone here can do about it. It could be done in utter secrecy.
Yes, you can be concerned about national security without just accepting any assinign idea that is presented to us as “relating to national security”.
False choice. And a really bad day for the freedom of American citizens.

Posted by: Patriot | January 2, 2010, 11:36 am 11:36 am

Tapper, you just lost your credibility as one of the few honest MSM types who cared about the republic. Interpol is not the same as the Tuna Commission, et al. Why wait until 2004 for Interpol to establish a permanent office in our country, staff it with FBI/CIA types, and now give them immunity that our domestic police agencies do not have? Do you really see nothing sinister in this development? The Patriot Act and the phony war on terror and now this executive order by the Manchurian Candidate are the real threats to our liberty. There is unrest in the land and it is spreading like a wildfire.

Posted by: Curt Thompson | January 2, 2010, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Jake,
Instead of STUPID FLUFF PIECES why don’t you ask him this question.
“Mr. President, is it true that due to your amendment to Executive Order 12425, INTERPOL may break into a home without a warrant, seize private property of a US citizen, hold a citizen for questioning without the right of legal representation and not be subject to any legal or criminal repercussion?”
I’d really like them to ask that question. Wouldn’t you?
You and the media have LIED to the American people ENOUGH! We are SICK OF IT!
Tell us the truth and start asking some REAL questions of this administration!

Posted by: patriotparty1 | January 2, 2010, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

Ten Swedish Kurds were put on the Interpol most wanted list using accusations placed by the most dangerous regime in the world: Iran. Interpol’s comment to the Associated Press on this listing is “It would be “inappropriate” to comment on the details of individual cases, but pointed out it is not its role to assess the evidence of cases.”
I can think of a few names President Obama would like to see on an Interpol most wanted list. Ceding our sovereignty over to a global network like Interpol is insane.

Posted by: BernardL | January 2, 2010, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

I like the way Tapper builds the case for INTERPOL, siting praise from “the other camp” to disarm those nasty conservative bloggers.
As if any of that mattered in the question of whether it’s appropriate to allow a foreign agency to have the freedom to snope, investigate, hold, sieze the property of, and harass American citizens. Without being answerable to anyone.
One wonders if Tapper would have a problem he himself found himself to be the subject of wire taps, etc. of INTERPOL? Would he try to appeal to his local law enforcement authorities? Would he call the CIA hotline? Would send an email to his Congressman?
According to the Executive Order, none of these people could help him.
But I’m sure, in Tapper’s mind, this work-around the protection from illegal search and seizure only applies to the proletariat, and not to his class – so no need to get alarmed.

Posted by: WellWorn | January 2, 2010, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

One also wonders if this is the manner in which Obama goes after the names on his enemies list. Possibly a deal has been struck?
We don’t have a President – we have a king.

Posted by: WellWorn | January 2, 2010, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

You would think the American media would probe into this more.
I mean seriously, this blog feels more like a White House press release.
Will ABC not dig into this? Is this not serious enough to ask a few pointed questions?
Instead, we get a pat on the head from this reporter implying that this is just run-of-the-mill business.
You would think there would at least be a basic reporter’s curiousity.
I guess not.

Posted by: Jim Plendick | January 2, 2010, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

In short, he’s just given INTERPOL “carte blanc” to cover up any info deemed a threat to Obama and his camp without reproach.
No chance for public or legal review.
INTERPOL is also onboard the UN’s global warming wagon. How’s that for enforcing your bogus policies!!
One more brick in the ‘Marxist’ wall.
Impeach this traitor before he ruins our country!

Posted by: Art | January 2, 2010, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

Andy McCarthy in a National Review article writes: “Why would we elevate an international police force above American law? Why would we immunize an international police force from the limitations that constrain the FBI and other American law-enforcement agencies? Why is it suddenly necessary to have, within the Justice Department, a repository for stashing government files which, therefore, will be beyond the ability of Congress, American law-enforcement, the media, and the American people to scrutinize?”
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Too bad the rest of the worthless media is not asking these same questions and absolutely DEMANDING answers to these very valid questions!!!! Since they do not I can safely assume that they are either lazy, ignorant, incompetent, or maybe they fully agree and are therefore complicit?

Posted by: gk | January 2, 2010, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

Please someone look into why Obama signed this agreement. Tell us what’s going on here!

Posted by: m vale | January 2, 2010, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

Obama’s talking tough on terrorism now but why is he letting Eric Holder bring 5 terrorists to NYC for trial? And Eric Holder’s law firm will represent them. The lawyers will be given millions and we will pay for it. This is a tragedy for the people of NYC.

Posted by: m vale | January 2, 2010, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

It’s a good thing ABC is on top of the Obama’s shaved ice treat. Nobody’s going to “scoop” them on that important story.
It’s good that they aren’t following up on international police getting free reign inside our own country.
It’s good they aren’t asking why the Administration needs a “safe” hiding place for documents inside the Justice Department.
It’s good that they don’t bother to ask Obama how this move comports with his promise of transparency.
REALLY.

Posted by: Very Concerned | January 2, 2010, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm

This president is a danger to our Republic and should be kicked out. A great platform for the GOP or Independent Candidate in 2012 would be simply to un-do everything obama has done, that is if obama hasn’t signed an executive order by then banning elections.

Posted by: Rightwingextremist | January 3, 2010, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

Aren’t a lot of these people screaming about Obama’s actions the same ones that said that Bush’s actions were all to protect America and for our own security. That questioning Bush’s motives seemed on par with treason??

Posted by: Old Timer | January 3, 2010, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

OldTimer,
So this is your defense of Obama? “Bush too!”
I thought that Obama was so superior to Bush, that any of his supporters would shrink away from any such comparison.
And, I guess, by your post, you are essentially telling us that any policy decision that has “national security” slapped on it, is justified.
I’m sure somebody has tried to slap “national security” on the socialized health care debacle in the same way.
Instead of taking a bank shot at Bush (big surprise), why don’t you just build a case for why this is such a great policy move. Hopefully you can make a better argument that ABC has.

Posted by: DearJohn | January 3, 2010, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

Legalizing the Gestapo.
This is change I can believe in.
Go BO.
You da man.

Posted by: ozzy | January 3, 2010, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

Let’s look at this in a positive manner.
Maybe Obama is greasing the skids for the arrest and World Court prosecution of war criminals and other evil doers residing in this country.

Posted by: Josewhoknows | January 4, 2010, 3:45 am 3:45 am

I’m amazed by the number of ignorant commentators here who seem to think Interpol can now arrest people. Interpol does not have any search, seizure or arrest powers, nor does this executive order give them any. The statute that Obama references is quite clear, it gives them immunity from search and a number of tax immunities. It does not give them any right to arrest people or search homes. Also, there seems to be alot of confusion regarding FOIA requests. This does not create a “responsitory” for Justice to “stash” files- First off DOJ already can reject most FOIA requests if they involve active investigations, second off DOJ cannot simply give away its files to a foreign organization to avoid a FOIA, thirdly Interpol was always immune to FOIA, Interpol is a foreign organization & FOIA only applies to the US government.

Posted by: Adam J | January 4, 2010, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

I don’t think this is at all different from diplomatic immunity. Have a look at 2b:
“(b) International organizations, their property and their assets, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall enjoy the same immunity from suit and every form of Judicial process as is enjoyed by foreign governments, except to the extent that such organizations may expressly waive their immunity for the purpose of any proceedings or by the terms of any contract.”
“From suit and every form of Judicial process” seems pretty self-explanatory to me. It means immunity.

Posted by: Brian | January 4, 2010, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

I can’t believe the number of comments pointing the finger at Obama for exempting INTERPOL from section 2(b). It’s pretty clear when I look at it that Reagan’s the one who did that. So your tirades against the fascist nature of this order have actually been directed at him this whole time.
I expect that causes a bit of cognitive dissonance.

Posted by: Balance | January 4, 2010, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

You people need to get out more. INTERPOL is not an international police force.
It doesn’t have enforcement agents or any such thing. It does not undertake any police operations what so ever. It has no investigating agents. All it does maintain some databases and email lists through which information is gathered, correlated and redistributed.
It is an information exchange. It has a tiny budget of $58 million per year.
That is all.
This flapdoodle is making the conservatives in the US look like a bunch of raving morons.

Posted by: Not a joke | January 4, 2010, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

“Though clearly the Executive Order does prohibit US law enforcement from searching and seizing INTERPOL records, officials say, those provisions can be waived by the president if need be”
This is outrageous…way beyond any measures taken by the Patriot Act. The implications are staggering. The potential for treachery and corruption under current and future administrations is boundless. I do not understand any responsible American citizen being okay with this. Wake up America!

Posted by: googiesmam | January 4, 2010, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

I learned more from the comments than I did the obviously partisan article. Thank GOD for the UK media sources or I would never know the facts in my own country. Our MSM is embarrassing.

Posted by: Captain Obvious | January 5, 2010, 6:59 am 6:59 am

Conservatives are such wimps. First they’re shiver and hide under the bed, cause of the big bad scary guys (hiding in the hills in Afghanistan afraid to come out). Now the Conservatives are also terrified of Interpol.
Good heavens, the Conservatives are just about frightened of their own shadows.
It’s not just the party of the ignorant, it’s the party of the ignorant and the cowardly.

Posted by: Jason Semarville | January 5, 2010, 7:20 am 7:20 am

record

Posted by: jeff luft | January 5, 2010, 7:48 am 7:48 am

It is a violation of the 1974 Privacy Act for the Federal government to make any changes that may affect the privacy rights of US citizens without inform them.
Looks like nobody plans on informing us, so this is a violation of Federal Law.

Posted by: CzarJames | January 5, 2010, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Captain Obvious- How is the article obviously partisan? It provides a historical background and logical explanation with citations. On the other hand, the comments you seem to commend are overwhelmingly partisan.

Posted by: Adam J | January 5, 2010, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Jake, this time you didn’t do your homework and just acted as a scribe for Gibbs printing what you were told to print by the White House. This Order exempts a foreign criminal investigative force operating on American soil from American laws. They now have more rights and freedoms than even the FBI has in our own country. This is a massive surrender of sovereignty that demosntrates this President’s belief in a One World government and his hate for his country.

Posted by: DetCord | January 5, 2010, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

who is this alleged conservative Tapper quotes? It’s real easy to quote an unidentified people, but how does anyone know he actually exists?

Posted by: anon | January 5, 2010, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Body scanners at the airport are an insult to everyone and so is INTERPOL. We took down Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Communist Russia in 4 years! Now we can’t stop a couple radicals so we need INTERPOL and other strict sanctions on us? this war on terror is a way for government to keep you in shock and consolidate powers.
“Those who give up freedoms for security deserve neither and get none.” – Thomas Jefferson
Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it. – Adolf Hitler
True patriotism hates injustice in its own land, more than anywhere else!

Posted by: Corey | January 5, 2010, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

This has nothing to do with conservatives or liberals. Every card-carrying member of the ACLU should be up in arms over this depredation of our legal protections against abuses of our rights and liberties by foreign agents, immune from responsibility for their acts.

Posted by: Aubrey Kohn | January 5, 2010, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

For crying out loud, people, read the original executive order and Obama’s amendment. It’s just as Jake said. No biggie, whoopie, moving on.

Posted by: slothjr | January 5, 2010, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

dude open your eyes how can you look at each individual thing with this president and be like oh ok no big deals.. well it is a big deal because its all against the constitution.

Posted by: corey | January 5, 2010, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

“Conservatives can’t have it both ways,” the official says. “You can’t be complaining about the hypothetical abdication of US jurisdiction at the same time you’re complaining the Obama administration is not being tough enough on national security.”
Notice the double speak, as “eradication of sovereignty” is eluded to be vital to our “national security”.
You people need to wake up. An international police force, above the law, working in the U.S, able to detain citizens, with complete immunity, no records.
WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
THIS IS TREASONOUS.

Posted by: Josh | January 5, 2010, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

“abdication of US jurisdiction” = eradication of sovereignty

Posted by: Josh | January 5, 2010, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Soooo, this INTERPOL thing. Will they be having some job openings?

Posted by: Huknar | January 5, 2010, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Hey All,
“Can’t have it both ways” – nice.
Bush was supposed to be so hard on national secuirty as to call him a ‘fascist’, but somehow he never felt the need to put INTERPOL records/evidence/archives beyond the reach of US law..
I did a history & explanation of this over @ my place – Go HERE and you’ll see that, like so many things Obama has done that’s left people shaking their heads, this act wasn’t ‘overt’ so much as ‘set-up’… and the Devil is in the details.
- Ron

Posted by: Ron | January 6, 2010, 1:17 am 1:17 am

If you guys actually READ the public law that the sections are from, it is giving immunities to INTERPOL from searching their property, and certain tax exeptions. THAT IS IT. The fact that Obama gave INTERPOL these new immunities they did not have before DOES NOT MEAN that they have full diplomatic immunity. They just cannot be searched, nor can they be taxed. Thats it. Learn to do research and actually READ things.

Posted by: Unr3a1 | January 7, 2010, 3:04 am 3:04 am

“…INTERPOL, an international criminal police organization with strong ties to the anti-American institutions and organizations, is now positioned above the United States Constitution; in a place of sacredness even far above our own criminal police organizations (i.e. FBI, CIA, DIA). No matter how you look at this, the facts speak for themselves; President Obama has purposefully placed our Constitutional rights under international law…”
Enough said…

Posted by: mightythor | January 7, 2010, 3:08 am 3:08 am

It is written, “Those within a house well guarded are safe”. Would wisdom make a stranger the guardian of His house? And would He remove all locks from the door? We have made our choice in this country. Brace yourself, it is going to hurt. It will go better if we look up and smile at Papa. BTW, name calling reveals much about the talker.

Posted by: vvb | January 7, 2010, 7:09 am 7:09 am

So, the article listed what organizations three REPUBLICAN Presidents had added to the list…why none of the DEMOCRAT Presidents? Are we to believe that they added no one? I find that VERY hard to believe…show us the Carter and Clinton lists!

Posted by: Heartland Patriot | January 7, 2010, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

I am shocked, so asked a former high-ranking official with the Reagan Adminstration what he thought and he said, “I am very much in support of this Executive Order. We should have done it years ago.” TISMBS…

Posted by: Robert Rabbit | January 8, 2010, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

Jake wake up, stop relying on “what you’ve been told” you are comparing tuna fish and the international police.
doesnt this spell: abuse of power?Interpol was deprived of this immunity originally for a good reason.
this explanation is like saying concentration camps were factories.
this is a coup for power by the executive branch to circumvent checks and balances…it was planned in advance and is part of larger plan rooted in the fundamental disdain of americanism.

Posted by: dave | January 9, 2010, 11:33 am 11:33 am

Josh, you wonder what I don’t understand? Here’s a partial list:
How, in an age of international terrorism, sharing information between different intelligence agencies is a bad thing;
Why a set of privileges already enjoyed by 75 organizations before Obama became president is suddenly treasonous after he becomes president;
How being able to keep their own files and not pay property taxes somehow gives anyone authority to detain or arrest people;
How an organization with no police officers is supposed to be able to detain or arrest anyone in the first place;
And finally, why a calm explication of facts can make no headway against baseless paranoia.

Posted by: Scott Hanley | January 10, 2010, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

No big deal….status quo….not to worry…..Just another inch…no big deal….when will America have a congress and president who are not willing to give away our liberties and rights one inch at a time? I recall am old saying concerning “give an inch and they will take a mile”…? Wonder just what that means? Liberals, Concervatives, Independants, ALL Americans loose with each given inch.

Posted by: Ken | February 17, 2010, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

Interpol does not have any immunity in my house!
They did not ask the PEOPLES permission to come into our country to police us!
We have All the Armed Forces, CIA, FBI,Federal Marshalls, State Troopers, County Sherrifs and City Police officers.
Do we need international police officers too.
Where do you want your chip, Head or Wrist?

Posted by: Kmad | March 3, 2010, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

So, do we really think THIS president will “waive the provisions” forbidding FBI to access Interpol information?!
Duh!!!

Posted by: Bev Evans | March 21, 2010, 10:29 am 10:29 am

INTERPOL can “police” in the US without disclosing (sharing) information to the FBI/CIA? Wake up you “fact-finding” freaks and read between the lines. Look how Texas’ [cowardly] CPA stole EVERY child/infant (400+) from a non-violent religious group. Texas Judges ordered the children back. Do you see the “checks-n-balances” working? Do you get it? Do you?

Posted by: digitalrace | June 23, 2010, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

I can’t see how any American citizen can honestly claim that he or she still lives within a democracy. The constitution of America, which is the foundation on which rests every citizen’s civil rights, is crumbling away as the Govt continues to push its myth of “terror”. National secrity is the excuse the Govt uses to strip away the liberties of its people and allows it to continue to carry out its foreign policy,(War). The role of government acording to the constitution is to protect the civil liberties of its people, but as we can see it’s the agenda of the govt to do just the opposite. The implications of this executive order amendment are stunning to say the least. There is no reason to have an international police force exempt from the American freedom of information act. I don’t know about you but this just opens the doors to Dictatorship and police state. I have to say this is rather alarming especially when you consider the majpority of the american public knows nothing about it…What happens to those who don’t comply within a police state? I don’t want to know but I am suddenly remembering all those 600 odd scary looking FEMA camps scattered all over the US..I’m Canadian and I’m scared… Now I’m remembering the North American Union… God help us all….

Posted by: Scared | November 11, 2010, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

I can’t believe that some who still call themselves conservatives are continuing to call the USA a democracy!
We are not a democracy for Pete’s sake, we are a constitutional republic!
Read my lips! We are not a democracy but a constitutional republic! The founding fathers were absolutely opposed to democracies.
So why can’t the conservatives who are concerned about our freedoms still not get the terminology right!

Posted by: KingsKid1938 | December 13, 2010, 12:05 am 12:05 am

You people make me laugh. A bunch of feckless, wanna be conspiracy theorists.
Let me tell you, if you hear about it on the radio, it’s because it’s not a secret plot.
Let me tell you another thing. If you think that America ever was somehow this “glorious land of liberty” that the “founders intended”, you’ve probably never read any historical text tthat wasn’t penned by some bloviating political ninny.
I don’t know where you people have been, but Interpol has been around for freakin’ ever. Obama IS the status quo. He hasn’t changed anything from the same, fundamentally elitist and capital-centric course we’ve been on since the countrie’s foundation. It was founded by rich colonial businessmen, with a paid, mercenary army, to stop from having to pay taxes.
And, quite justly, they’ve been using that system, from day one, to protect their interests, and avoid paying taxes. It’s the American way!
Interpol exists to protect money and international power. However, they don’t arrest you, they share information and coordinate with police agencies in their local countries. Interpol cannot order or execute anyone’s arrest, they simply reccomend it, and usually get their way.
THAT hasn’t changed one bit. That was the case before Obama gave them tax breaks. The document seizure immunity… I don’t know where you got the idea that they would ever have to comply with a FOIA request in the first place. The FOIA never applied to them. The executive order is an order, by the executive (the chief of all enforcement) NOT to search or seize their property. But, with an organization like Interpol, that’s a technicality, because only the executive would most certainly be consulted for such an operation anyhow Do you think the FBI would raid the UN without consulting the president?
It’s not that I’m for Obama. As per my CONSISTENT beliefs on these matters, I regard him as a lacky of the same aristocracy (powerful people who influence and perpetuate our government with connections and money… a real big secret) as Bush or Clinton before him.
I’m just tired of the utter tripe I have to deal with as a TRUE conspiracy theorist every dang time there’s a Democratic president. The idiots come out of the woodwork with half-cocked theories. Oh, and the Aliens. Freakin’ aliens. What is it with conservatives and aliens?
Sorry, it’s just that there is so much corruption in the world, it’s frustrating to have to deal with an influx of boob-toob addled baby-boomers, railing about some BS conspiracy they heard about ON TV! ON TELEVISION! As if this were the end of the world, and Glenn FREAKIN Beck had the scoop.
Wake me when we have a Republican president, so at least the fair-weather conspiracists will make some kind of sense.

Posted by: Matthew | December 22, 2010, 12:33 am 12:33 am

It is sad to see people not support the president, no matter what political party they are from. But i do agree, i haven’t seen any result of thing gettin done in this regard.

Posted by: Paradigm Life | December 23, 2010, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

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