By Kristina Wong

Dec 31, 2009 7:08pm

Obama “Cleared the Decks” for the Preliminary Terror Reports

From Jon Garcia:
 
Though President Obama continues his Hawaiian vacation, White House officials are busy painting a picture of a president who is constantly engaged in dealing with the fall out from the failed terrorist attack aboard NW flight 253 on Christmas Day, careful to show Obama is balancing his leisure activities with appropriate attention to his job.   A senior White House official says Obama continues to receive the preliminary results from the terrorism reviews he ordered on Sunday. The deadline was today. 
 
"I think he cleared the decks for it and now the question is, as we get additional information in over the course of the next several hours and this evening, Hawaii time, he'll have some more opportunity to look at it," the official said.  In addition to getting his daily briefing, Obama is also getting his terrorism spot reports twice a day and his situation reports three times a day, the official said. "Some of it he's doing online, some of it he's getting paper and sitting down at his desk and working it, and some of it is through conference calls. … Frankly I think a number of agencies will be working right up to 11:59 tonight…The president will be reviewing them himself in kind of this raw form," the official told reporters covering the Presidents trip to Hawaii. He will be reviewing these reports over course of the weekend in preparation for a multi-agency meeting in the White House situation room on Tuesday afternoon. Among those involved in that meeting, which Obama himself will lead, included but aren't limited to: CIA, DNI, DOJ, DHS, NCTC, TSA, NSA, STATE. "He's continuing to learn new things … and is continuing to ask a lot of probing questions," the official said. There is no further word on the final deadline for final reports, which Obama said would be in the coming weeks. Asked about the "accountability phase," the official said: "I think that as we get clarity out of the review of what happened that will certainly be how we do it. But as I indicated on Tuesday, we're not going to prejudge the review as it relates to that. But we obviously want the reforms that are put into place to be driven by facts and we'll certainly have accountability measures driven by facts, as well. The official also said he didn't think Obama would end up playing referee in inter-agency fingerpointing. The official agreed with an assessment memo that DNI Dennis Blair sent to the intelligence community praising it's members for overall gains in spite of this systemic and human failures that lead to the botched terror attack. "He's absolutely right," the official said. "The forward lean that we've kept on these terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan has led them to try to look for new opportunities and new spaces to operate, including Yemen, Somalia, Southeast Asia. And it is our intention to, as the President said in the West Point speech, to stay on offense with a combination of partnership and pressure in places like Yemen and elsewhere to ensure that we can counter them and their hateful agenda."

User Comments

Mr. Obama is too much of a showman. I’d rather have a President who actually works than appears to be working hard.

Posted by: young_voter | December 31, 2009, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

“He’s continuing to learn new things … and is continuing to ask a lot of probing questions,” the official said.
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I always love it when his own admin people have to puff him up by saying things like he’s asking “probing” questions.

Posted by: MayBee | December 31, 2009, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

This is the competent way to handle these things. Very refreshing after the Bush administration’s inability to accept failure (9/11, Richard Reid, etc.) The president is doing a remarkable job in the face of partisan attacks.
http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | December 31, 2009, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

Obama wants to be President but he doesn’t want to work at it. Obama always takes the credit for successes and places the blame when there is a failure. A true pretender and chief.

Posted by: Keisha | December 31, 2009, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

Obama wants to be President but he doesn’t want to work at it.
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Nonsense.

Posted by: tierra | December 31, 2009, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

Is Obama bright?

Posted by: Keisha | December 31, 2009, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Frankly, we ALL should take Obama’s example. Seriously. The so-called “threat” of Islamic radicals, while real, is really not that much of a threat. There is more danger in your home bathtub, stairs, or car for danger. That is not to say that we shouldn’t hunt down and eliminate these threats but not go crazy over it. That is the INTENTION of terrorism. To force people to change their ways, living, methods, etc. And, as a side note, it is better that socialist types vacation than make or enforce policy!

Posted by: Ed | December 31, 2009, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

Obama wants to hold someone in his administration to be accountable for the attempted terrorist attack. In truth, Obama is the guilty one. Leadership comes from the bottom up, but the blame is from the top down.

Posted by: politicoli | December 31, 2009, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

funny, how President Obama is supposedly guilty of a security breach by the Dutch, and Nigerian air security, and some low level embassy employee who grants/denies visa’s. Oh well, here is an idea, put body scanners in every airport and give the passengers a choice, hmm, wonder what they will pick. that will calm the neo-cons since it will give them their security concerns, and it will placate the left, as it will give consumers choice.

Posted by: Joe | December 31, 2009, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

People think security will keep them safe, come on people wake up, think of all the people that come in to contact with each plane. Security is just something to make white people feel safe. But what if this guy were a luggage handler, or a mechanic. Hmm.. would that be Obama’s fault as well? It was a lapse in security in Amsterdam, not in the U.S. and despite the calls of the contrary, we are not in command of other countries security procedures. If anyone should be fired it should be that low level embassy worker who granted the visa, or those agencies who still refuse to share data. Hmm, I seem to remember a president who went golfing during katrina.

Posted by: Joe | December 31, 2009, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

I’d just like to wish Happy New Year to everyone I used to read, converse with and sometimes argue with here.
Have a happy and healthy 2010!

Posted by: Danny | December 31, 2009, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

You’re doing a heck of a job, Janet!

Posted by: tj | December 31, 2009, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

The Intern-in-Chief? The Professor-in-Chief? He can continue to ask Socratic questions to his own heart’s content.
Unfortunately for all of us, neither the creators of “man-caused disasters” nor other world politicians are willing to play the game and, well, suck up for a B+ as did his law students.

Posted by: Bob | December 31, 2009, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

This administration has looks more and more like the cast of the movie “Being There” or “Zoolander”. Someone has to look good and show other how to dress!

Posted by: welldirected | January 1, 2010, 1:08 am 1:08 am

The nation now knows, of course, that this poor man is not up to the job. What further harm will he do in 2010 by his ineptitude?
We all shudder to think of it. All, that is, except poor Tierra, whose entire life seems to be devoted to posting increasingly incomprehensible defenses of this indefensible admnistration. Let us all hope that in the New Year she gets an actual life.
Obama has doomed us all.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | January 1, 2010, 1:23 am 1:23 am

What did Hillary say about on the job training?Every day that JN stays at DHS is one more example of weak leadership from Barack Obama.If he can’t pull the trigger on Napolitano,who is clearly incompetent and who does not have the confidence of DHS workers,how can we trust him to keep us safe?Unfortunately he doesn’t know what to do.He is just not that smart-again,if he was so brilliant why wasn’t he a Phi Beta Kappa?

Posted by: Nephron | January 1, 2010, 2:02 am 2:02 am

“In coming days we will review what information was available to whom, determine what mistakes were made in assessing or sharing that information . . . (and) close the gaps that these attacks exposed.”
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Exactly as it should be done.

Posted by: tierra | January 1, 2010, 3:50 am 3:50 am

Its incredible reading the verbal gymnastics by the blind Obama supporters. Liberalism truely is a disease.
All Hail Obama!
All Hail the State!
Am I doing it right, tierra?

Posted by: JamesJ | January 1, 2010, 5:49 am 5:49 am

(one more time to cover all the bases)
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During the campaign then Senator Obama was basically nonchalant about the depth of the difficulties in the War of Terror. I can’t remember anything he said per say, only his attitude was that once we had a decent (and, obviously Obama) foreign policy in place that the world would be a lot less angry and this included radical Muslims.
Even though McCain had a hard time communicating it to the Senator and the rest of us he kept trying to say to this young Senator that he needed to get his head out of the clouds, this is a dirty business and the guys at the other end of the barrel are dead serious.
Turns out that keeping America safe is a tough job, Mr. President. Just when you think you have convinced the world that there is a new Sheriff in town and that times have changed some lunatic infiltrates the system and darn near takes out 300 people.
Didn’t he get the memo?
Its a tough job and you are going to get your hands dirty. These people hate us because we offend them – not necessarily because we did anything even though we do things that offend them regularly but because we are infidels and non believers. They hate us categorically and unless you have plans of having the entire country convert to Islam they are always going to hate us.
So all your plans on delivering a new and improved US foreign relations translates into sugar coating more of the same. In fact, they view it as a chink in the armor to be seized and exploited. They view us as weak and undisciplined and the sooner we are wiped off the face of the earth the better. They are convinced this is the Will of God and are ready to sacrifice their own lives to do their part.
Turns out that kindness is weakness Mr. President.
It seems you are starting to get that this is real and they are serious and you just might have to get down and dirty to keep them from fulfilling their vision. The good news is that you finally appear to be showing up for the job; the bad news is that we are all nervous that you took your eye off the ball and that you may not be able to catch up.

Posted by: Lone Star Rules | January 1, 2010, 8:06 am 8:06 am

“In coming days we will review what information was available to whom, determine what mistakes were made in assessing or sharing that information . . . (and) close the gaps that these attacks exposed.”
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Exactly as it should be done.
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Or, you could have a comprehensive plan up front that (a) recognizes that there is a War on Terror and (b) we need to be on the offensive from jump-street.

Posted by: Lone Star Rules | January 1, 2010, 8:09 am 8:09 am

This is taking so long because they have not quite figured out how to blame this on the Bush administration.

Posted by: Jackie Chiles | January 1, 2010, 8:10 am 8:10 am

It is way past time to take the gloves off. This goes for dealing with rogue states, terrorist and incompetence in various agencies of the federal government.

Posted by: indymind | January 1, 2010, 8:34 am 8:34 am

So, Barky is going to put on a little performance on Tuesday, huh?
Just let them do their jobs…and you can go back to pretending you’re doing yours, Barky.
Barky said he wasn’t going to rest until all those involved in the Flight 253 plot were held accountable…then he played 18 holes of golf. The next day he went to the beach..and later went to see a movie..
Uh, Barky?? People laughed at OJ when he made a similar promise. The reason we’re not laughing is that this might be just a tad more serious

Posted by: beedubya | January 1, 2010, 8:55 am 8:55 am

The administration is eager to portray Obama as being involved, since he so clearly isn’t — and we all know that. He wasn’t even told of the incident for 3 hours, which shows the competence and judgment of those who work for him. He said nothing for days — then interrupted his golf game to make idiotic statements such as this was an “isolated extremist.” Really? At the same time AQ was taking credit for training the bomber! His people took to the airwaves to blame Bush and the system Bush put in place, conveniently forgetting they’ve had a year to change it, if it didn’t work right. He golfed and played some more — but oh! Let a kid take a spill at his luxury home and it’s lights and sirens back to the compound! God forbid someone at the home just take the kid to the ER on their own…
And according to reports elsewhere, from the beginning the administration looked on this incident as a POLITICAL problem, not a national security one, ordering people to look through the records for similar incidents under Bush’s watch.
This administration is pathetically inept, and we’re all paying for it.

Posted by: liz | January 1, 2010, 9:12 am 9:12 am

The only 3 am phone calls he takes are for early tee times.

Posted by: Karen | January 1, 2010, 9:22 am 9:22 am

I think Iran ignored Obama’s Dec 31st deadline.
I’m sure he’s busy coming up with another deadline for them.
Soft power, unclenched fist, mutual respect. How’s that working for Obama?

Posted by: ollie | January 1, 2010, 9:59 am 9:59 am

“The only 3 am phone calls he takes are for early tee times.”
LOL!
It’s interesting that Obama takes the high-ground position of closing Gitmo in order to “restore our moral values” yet has no problem with releasing prisoners to Yemen and targeting them with smart bombs.
Another day, more lies, more hypocrisy.

Posted by: tjp612 | January 1, 2010, 10:12 am 10:12 am

I have a suggestion for all these liberal, aclu types. Try checking out the people actually responsible for these terrorist acts i.e. profiling, instead of eighty year old grandmas.

Posted by: Wolfie | January 1, 2010, 10:20 am 10:20 am

Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

Posted by: EveryAmerican | January 1, 2010, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Obama is the most delusional president I have ever witnessed. Forget about checking his daily reports and asking probing questions, that’s all crap. The wealth of information we need and the answers to questions we need answered to save American lives sits in a Detroit jail cell with his attorney where he doesn’t have to answer any questions. Thats because our president and his moron of an attorney general treat terrorists like a common criminals. This was not a car jacking or a home invasion, it was an act of terror by a muslim jihadist. All the information we needed was just flushed down a toilet in Detroit by our incompetent president and his crew. The information we could have obtained would possibly save thousands of American lives. Our president acts more like one of them than one of us. Its scary.

Posted by: moebellini | January 1, 2010, 10:26 am 10:26 am

Hillary was critical of Candidate Obama for his lack of experience and that this was a job that didn’t have room for on the job training. The old 3 am call business was her campaign slogan
His own guys are telling us that he has been in a training session: “He’s continuing to learn new things … and is continuing to ask a lot of probing questions.”
Doesn’t this flagrant admission that the Boss doesn’t have the experience bother anyone in the MSM? It’s bugging me to no end. I hate to be picky here but shouldn’t he have learned all these new things before he ran for President in the first place (to Hillary’s point) or, at minimum, after he got on the job and started shaping policy.
I’m glad for him to expand his understanding as time goes on but having a clear understanding of the problems strikes me as Commander-In-Chief 101.

Posted by: Lone Star Rules | January 1, 2010, 10:35 am 10:35 am

The only thing that could make 2010 a better year than 2009 is if it were 2013 and we were looking forward to ingaurating anyone BUT oblama………..he is pathetic.

Posted by: CWG | January 1, 2010, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Another crisis not be wasted!
Obama is no doubt busy working with Rahm Emanuel to create another huge tax and spend bill to “deal” with this crisis by controlling the weather or something similar. It will have to passed “immediately” or the world will end. Too bad whatever he does won’t address the problem.
We’re all screwed when the President of the United States keeps referring to all these connected jihadists as “isolated extremists.”

Posted by: drjohn | January 1, 2010, 10:37 am 10:37 am

“Exactly as it should be done.”
Tierra, President Obama’s Administration has been in charge now for 11 months. Yet only NOW he is looking to close gaps in the system.
The CIA intercepted correspondences between Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab and the radical cleric Anwar al Awlaki (who also corresponded with Major Nidal Malik Hasan) AND Abdul Mutallab’s own father went to the U. S. Embassy in Nigeria and warned them about his son. While the latter on it’s own didn’t warrant placing Abdul Mutallab on the no-fly list, clearly in conjunction with the former he should have been on the no-fly list.
And now we also have learned that the suicide bomber who killed the 8 CIA employees in Afghanistan was invited to the base as a potential informant and was never searched.
There will always be human mistakes. Some will be more costly than others. But the worst mistake is to NOT TAKE THIS WAR ON TERROR SERIOUSLY.
The Obama Administration just hasn’t been taking this War on Terror seriously enough. First of all, they don’t even call it the “War on Terror.” It was changed to the “Overseas Contingency Operation” back in March. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano called the bombing attempt an “incident.” In the past she has referred to “terrorism” as “man-caused disasters.”
There is no excuse for not searching the prospective informant before admitting him to the base. Their lackadaisicalness may be a sign of a greater systemic problem. When leadership “relaxes” that “relaxation” trickles down through the ranks.
Instead of “exactly as it should be done,” I say, it’s about time Mr. President!

Posted by: James Danley | January 1, 2010, 11:08 am 11:08 am

“…and darn near takes out 300 people.”
Lone Star Rules, while I agree with most of your comment you really miss the boat with that phrase! If the terrorist’s plan had been for just the 289 on board the plan to die he would have tried to set off the bomb over the Atlantic. The real objective was to cause as much death and destruction to the city of Detroit.

Posted by: James Danley | January 1, 2010, 11:08 am 11:08 am

Looks like Obama has the counterintelligence that he wanted–politically correct, weakened, ineffective.
Just like him.

Posted by: hank | January 1, 2010, 11:15 am 11:15 am

If our safety is Obama’s first priority he should have immediately changed the Bush policies that were in place.
Not wait a year, and three terrorist attacks before deciding the policies needed to be updated. And of course conveniently blaming Bush.
Three attacks: Recruiter killed in Arkansas, Ft Hood, Detroit bomber.

Posted by: kyle | January 1, 2010, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Obama made his priorities very clear.
His legacy.
His main focus has been health care, spending, enjoying the perks of being president while delegating the hard stuff to Congress.
Afghanistsan and national security are way down on Obama’s list.

Posted by: mick | January 1, 2010, 11:24 am 11:24 am

Let’s look at the Republican record. Bush received warnings that al Qaeda was going to attack in August of 2001, but he was on vacation and couldn’t be disturbed. Before the shoe bomber attack on December 21, 2001, al Qaeda detainees in Gitmo had already chattered about Richard Reid’s shoe bomb attack, but nothing was done. Bush waited 6 days to make any kind of response. Furthermore, the Republicans let Osama bin Laden escape at Tora Bora because they were too busy trying to fight a war in Iraq – which had nothing to do with 9/11. The people who trained the underwear bomber were released from Gitmo in 2007, when Republicans were in charge.
Furthermore, the GOP has been blocking funds for Homeland security. (See Huffington post, December 31.) And during the 2008 campaign, I clearly remember GOP pundits talking about the way a terrorist attack would enhance McCain’s chances of winning the election.
By contrast, Obama started monitoring the terrorist situation right after it happened. He not only responded faster than Bush did, but he also got a preliminary report in much less time than the 6 days it took Bush to respond.
You might want to check out a report by Steve Benen in the Huffington Post, on December 31. You’d the find out that under the Obama administration, we got rid of Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan, ringleader of an al Qaeda cell in Kenya, “one of most wanted Islamic militants in Africa.” US forces, under Obama’s command killed Baitullah Mehsud, the terrorist leader of Taliban movement in Pakistan. The Obama administration arrested suspected terrorist Jaibulla Zazi, Talib Islam and Hosam Maher Husein Smadi before they could launch planned terrorist attacks. Unlike the GOP, Obama does not brag about his successes. Considering the number of times the GOP told us that al Qaeda was finished, Obama is a welcome relief.
Truth told the GOP finds nothing wrong with terrorist attacks if they can use these terrorist attacks to their political advantage. 9/11 became an excuse for invading Iraq – something that the GOP wanted to do long before 9/11 occurred. The Obama Administration is pursuing a more mature approach to fighting terrorism, and judging from all the hysterical blogs I’ve read before posting these comments, maturity is something we definitely need.

Posted by: William Joseph Miller | January 1, 2010, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

“There is no excuse for not searching the prospective informant before admitting him to the base. Their lackadaisicalness may be a sign of a greater systemic problem. When leadership “relaxes” that “relaxation” trickles down through the ranks.”
Even though there has been no major downgrade of security under Obama at least James you’re trying to define some kind of actual change that would account for why these attacks would be any more successful now than when Bush was President, unlike all your right-wing buddies who are grasping at straws, but a psychologically affected increase in human error is another stretch.

Posted by: Skip | January 1, 2010, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

“Bush received warnings that al Qaeda was going to attack in August of 2001, but he was on vacation and couldn’t be disturbed.”
Have you read that Presidential Daily Briefing? Google it! There was no such warning!
Now as for presidential vacations, President Obama receives his daily briefings and is in constant contact with advisors and spends a good portion of his day in meetings while he is in Hawaii, JUST LIKE President Bush DID while in Crawford, TX.

Posted by: James Danley | January 1, 2010, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

You can also search using the title “Bin Laden determined to strike in US”

Posted by: Flash Override | January 1, 2010, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

You can also search using the title “Bin Laden determined to strike in US”
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It’s interesting that even after that alert – and within it the mention of the use of aircraft in such an attack – both the CIA and the FBI know an Islamic extremist has been taking ‘ad hoc’ lessons on how to fly a 746 – and yet it’s not reported to the President (or so they say).
Great care being taken with the security of AMericans?
What results? 9/11 is what results.

Posted by: tierra | January 1, 2010, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

“9/11 became an excuse for invading Iraq…”
Not an excuse! President Bush changed our policy from being REACTIVE to being PRO-ACTIVE because of 9/11. It appears that President Obama may have reverted our policy back to being REACTIVE.

Posted by: James Danley | January 1, 2010, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

Fascist Hyena writes:
“The nation now knows, of course, that this poor man is not up to the job. What further harm will he do in 2010 by his ineptitude?
We all shudder to think of it. All, that is, except poor Tierra, whose entire life seems to be devoted to posting increasingly incomprehensible defenses of this indefensible admnistration. Let us all hope that in the New Year she gets an actual life.
Obama has doomed us all.”
Fascist Hyena,
Your statements are mere opinions, nothing more.
I’d also like to remind you that there is a great deal of dignity in treating all others here with common decency.
May you realize that within yourself some day.

Posted by: Danny | January 1, 2010, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

Releasing the terrorist from Gitmo and ‘rehabilitating’ them only educated. They are no more rehabilitatable than perverted and deadly child molesters that are portrayed as victims. Attempting to apply laws of civility and rehabilitation to them is a mockery of our civil order and only servers to embolden them.

Posted by: TX_MBell | January 1, 2010, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

Posted by: James Danley
there were plans to invade Iraq by the ‘neo-cons’ long before 9/11
re: Fascist Hyena writes:
“The nation now knows, of course, that this poor man is not up to the job. What further harm will he do in 2010 by his ineptitude?
without a Rassmussen Poll, our friend Hyena is a little lost, personal opinion from the ‘right’ qualifies as a declaration of ‘the nation’s feelings..

Posted by: XX | January 1, 2010, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

The real objective was to cause as much death and destruction to the city of Detroit.
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James Danley – I agree 100% – I just wanted to take the low side just to keep things simple.

Posted by: Lone Star Rules | January 1, 2010, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

Posted by: James Danley
there were plans to invade Iraq by the ‘neo-cons’ long before 9/11
Posted by: XX | Jan 1, 2010 5:10:02 PM
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And in the same document where they plot to attack Iraq, they express there might have to be an event on the order of Pearl Harbor in order to turn public opinion to support such an attack. All this pre- 9/11.

Posted by: tierra | January 1, 2010, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

Skip…you made a HUGE mistake in your post. See, comments such as these are basically ‘opinion journalism’ made by the (mostly) American public. It is expected some will not agree with one another, we all know that. Now, to direct people to the ‘Huffington Post’ for anything is not even CLOSE to credible…you see, that too is ‘opinion journalism’. That site is so far left it has fallen off the cliffs in L.A. Don’t get me wrong, if someone posted a link to an ultra conservative site, they’d be wrong too. But, dude you need to find your own way and stop being influenced by your ‘news’ sites.

Posted by: Paul in Ohio | January 1, 2010, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

“9/11 became an excuse for invading Iraq…”
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Saddam Huessain had violated 17 UN resolutions about inspections for WMDs. The was obligated to adhere to those resolutions because, as it turns out, he got his butt kicked in the first Gulf War. He was on a kind of probation for having taken over the country of Kuwait. He surrendered. He was on house arrest.
He wasn’t holding up to his end of the agreement.He didn’t hold up to his end of the agreement 17 times in a row.
So, if you are the President of the United States (gawd forbid) and after years of threatening and chatter about how these guys are going to make American pay they actually pull it off – so what would you do?
Here is this lunatic Saddam running around the middle east doing everything he can to tell the US and the UN to shove it. The UN issues another resolution and Saddam tells them to scre*w themselves – again. And he does this 17 times in a row. And he is acting like he has MWD at every turn in the road. The world wide intelligence community agrees that he is in pursuit of WMDs and might just have them. As importantly, there is absolutely no question he is inclined to use them (he has used them before on his own people). He may be secular and have all kinds of disagreements with other Arab nations but they all agree with one thing: they all hate Americans.
So if you want to tag 9/11 as an excuse to invade Iraq then it appears you may have missed a few things along the way. Was Bush trigger happy? Absolutely. Did he pull the trigger in Iraq too soon? Yeah, maybe he did. Did he have an end game? Maybe not. Did he find a cache of WMDs? Not anything like he thought he would. Does it matter? Not as far as I am concerned – he sat on the side of the desk that made him responsible for the lives of over 300 Million people. He had a lunatic that was running around acting like he was on the threshold of obtaining WMDs in a lot of varieties and every single intelligence source that had credibility said Saddam was ready to go. He may have screwed up the whole iraqi war – I don’t care. I care that we lost American lives and even Iraqi lives – it is a terrible thing and I wish it never happened – but, what Bush did, the sacrifices those soldiers made were for the safety of Americans.
It has been my experience that the difference between the left and the right comes down to whether Bush lied. The left ends their chatter with “no question, he is a liar pure and simple.” Guys like me don’t think he did. Did he sell it? That’s what President’s do. Did he push it? Probably. Did he flat out lie? Not a chance. Was 9-11 an excuse to invade Iraq (to pay homage to his father or some darn thing)? It laid the groundwork but it was a separate decision.
Bottom line: 9-11 was a game changer and I am glad we had a President that showed up and took care of business. I disagree with Mr. Bush on a lot of things but his decision to go to Iraq is not among them.

Posted by: Lone Star Rules | January 1, 2010, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

Saddam Hussein failed to comply with the conditions of the 1991 cease fire. After 12 years of diplomatically trying to convince him to comply; and after the UN Security Council made it known that they weren’t going to follow through on their “final ultimatum;” President Bush issue his own final ultimatum. When Saddam Hussein refused to comply, President Bush rescinded the 1991 cease fire.
Now as for Bush lying, why does the Left call Bush’s statements lies but totally ignore the fact that many Democrats (including President Clinton and Vice President Gore) also said Saddam Hussein had WMDs? If you recall, when Congress passed the 1998 Iraq Liberation Act, Democrats said that Saddam Hussein was a threat due to his WMD programs.
Finally, in July 2008, 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium was shipped out of Iraq to Canada. A country that has such vast oil reserves certainly didn’t need this uranium for civilian purposes. Clearly Saddam Hussein had intended to reconstitute his WMD programs.

Posted by: James Danley | January 1, 2010, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

Exactly – James Danley.
I couldn’t have said it better myself (LOL – he smoked me).

Posted by: Lone Star Rules | January 1, 2010, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

MSNBC is reporting that Obama’s main focus for 2010 starting when he gets back to the White House will be national security. How reassuring! So it’s official, national security was never Obama’s primary focus. It’s also clear we’ve reverted to a reactionary (a.k.a pre-9/11) policy towards terrorism. In other words, we had a near disaster at the hands of of a Gitmo terrorist so I guess we have to put some focus on the “issue”.

Posted by: Woody | January 1, 2010, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

Mr. Obama and his disciples have never believed in the War on Terror-his whole campaign was based on the perception that fighting terrorism was a legal affair;not the life-and-death struggle against a foe that has no reluctance to kill men,women and children to advance its feudal,fascistic goals.How soon we forget-I used to drive past the Pentagon and see the carnage that was followed by the recovery.Now you can’t see any evidence from Jefferson Davis Highway of the attack of 9/11.I fear that the policies of Barack Obama will lead to a repeat of that attack; even now he cannot do the most simple things to demonstrate some concern,such as firing Napolitano or withdrawing his TSA nominee who today was revealed to be seriously flawed and guilty of lying to Congress.

Posted by: Nephron | January 1, 2010, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

President Bush changed our policy from being REACTIVE to being PRO-ACTIVE because of 9/11
Posted by: James Danley
It’s also clear we’ve reverted to a reactionary (a.k.a pre-9/11) policy towards terrorism.
Posted by: Woody
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Coincidental opinion? So which right-wing media loudmouth has been serving up this baloney sandwich? What’s ‘proactive’ supposed to mean? -invasions like Iraq? I can agree however that Bush didn’t react to terrorism –at least he didn’t react to any of the intelligence warnings prior to 9/11 or he could have prevented it.

Posted by: Skip | January 1, 2010, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

Do you feel safer now with Obama than you did with Bush? How many successful attacks on the homeland occured after 2003?How many have occured since January 20,2009?Why didn’t Obama even bother to nominate ANYBODY to head TSA until 8 months into his Presidency?How many mid-level positions in DHS and TSA are still unfilled?These are simple questions-why hasn’t Obama nominated people for those positions?

Posted by: Nephron | January 1, 2010, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

“Bush didn’t react to terrorism –at least he didn’t react to any of the intelligence warnings prior to 9/11 or he could have prevented it.”
That is bogus! There were never any specific credible warnings.
In her testimony to the 9/11 Commission, then National Security Advisor, Condoleezza Rice, told of more than 40 Presidential Daily Briefings regarding al Qaeda in the first 8 months of the Bush Administration. That 13 of those briefings were in response to questions by President Bush or his top advisers. It was the CIA that stated it was in direct response to several occasions where President Bush wanted to know whether al Qaeda was planning an attack against the United States, that they prepared the August 6, 2001 PDB, “Bin Ladin Determined To Strike In US.”
Following the PDB of August 6th, President Bush and the National Security Agency began planning changes that might have actually prevented the attacks had they had a few more weeks to implement the changes. One of the areas looked at was the “wall” that prohibited law enforcement from communicating with the intelligence agencies. A “wall,” I might add, that was “built” by the Clinton Administration.
Yes! Pro-active does include invading Iraq. Saddam Hussein was supporting terrorism. Saddam Hussein even had a terrorist training camp. Had we not invaded Iraq, we would never have known that he no longer had WMDs. And we now know that he had 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium–which we would never have known had we not invaded Iraq.

Posted by: James Danley | January 1, 2010, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

Fort Hood shootings happened by an officer who was promoted even though there were reports in his file that should have stopped those promotions during the Cheney Bush years.
Yep, the soldier became an officer during the Bush years even though there were warnings of his anti American, pro-islamic terrorist views.
Cheney and Bush blew that one.

Posted by: Angie | January 1, 2010, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

Two of the masterminds who planned the failed Christmas jetliner attack were released from Guatanimo Prison in 2007.
Yep, Cheney and Bush both stated on TV that none of the Detanees they were releasing were terrorists. Well the failed Christmas attack just proved their statement to be a lie.
So Bush and Cheney blew that one two.

Posted by: Angie | January 1, 2010, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

It was also reported that One of the planners of the Failed Christmas attack back before 2007 was in a Rehab for terrorism, which Cheney and Bush had at the Guatanimo Prison before they released him in 2007.
But Cheney and Bush both stated on TV in 2007 that of the Detanees they were releasing at that time – That None of those Detanees were terrorists.
Now that statement that Bush and Cheney made was proven to be a lie.
And yes, they blew it with that one also.

Posted by: Angie | January 1, 2010, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

“There were never any specific credible warnings”
Nefarious characters training to fly commercial jets but not being interested in learning how to land them is pretty specific and as we now know absolutely credible.

Posted by: Skip | January 1, 2010, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

It is now being reported that the suicide Afghan bomber who killed the CIA agents was a contractor informant who had worked with our military during the Bush and cheney years.
In other words, he had already gained the trust of our soldiers and others whom he worked with prior to this year.
Why didn’t the Bush and cheney Republican Administration have stricker requirements prior to that guys suicide attack?
Since he worked with our people already during the Bush years, it never dawned on them to suspect anything.
But then since it was easy for the Fort Hood soldier to be promoted during the Bush Years even though there were reports in his file for anti American and pro terrorism views, then just how much easier is it for someone like the Afghan suicide bomber to slip through.

Posted by: Angie | January 1, 2010, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

In her testimony to the 9/11 Commission, then National Security Advisor, Condoleezza Rice, told of more than 40 Presidential Daily Briefings regarding al Qaeda in the first 8 months of the Bush Administration. That 13 of those briefings were in response to questions by President Bush or his top advisers. It was the CIA that stated it was in direct response to several occasions where President Bush wanted to know whether al Qaeda was planning an attack against the United States, that they prepared the August 6, 2001 PDB, “Bin Ladin Determined To Strike In US.”
Following the PDB of August 6th, President Bush and the National Security Agency began planning changes that might have actually prevented the attacks had they had a few more weeks to implement the changes. One of the areas looked at was the “wall” that prohibited law enforcement from communicating with the intelligence agencies. A “wall,” I might add, that was “built” by the Clinton Administration.
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Sounds like they talked about it alot. Do you think we should believe for a second that if a Democrat claimed these things were actually doing something that right-wingers would buy it?

Posted by: Skip | January 1, 2010, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

“Had we not invaded Iraq, we would never have known that he no longer had WMDs. And we now know that he had 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium–”
That’s an extremely expensive method of intelligence gathering James. I don’t think Americans are going to stand for anymore ‘proactive’ efforts against terrorism like that. But I don’t get the part about the yellowcake: If 550 tons was all he had why did he ship it all to Canada as you posted earlier? How can he make weapons out of it if it’s all in Canada? Obviously you’re not suggesting Canada was going to help him build a bomb.

Posted by: Skip | January 1, 2010, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

“Nefarious characters training to fly commercial jets but not being interested in learning how to land them is pretty specific and as we now know absolutely credible.”
A “dot” does not a warning make!
That “dot” was not communicated very high up the chain of command by the FBI. Former CIA Director George Tenet did learn of Zacarias Moussaoui’s case about Aug 23-24, 2001. Unfortunately he never notified the White House of this until AFTER 9/11. So the White House never had that “dot” until AFTER 9/11.
Now then, had law enforcement not been prohibited from sharing information with the intelligence agencies, the FBI agents could have bypassed their superiors and tipped off the CIA.

Posted by: James Danley | January 1, 2010, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

Posted by: James Danley
there were plans to invade Iraq by the ‘neo-cons’ long before 9/11
Posted by: XX | Jan 1, 2010 5:10:02 PM
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And in the same document where they plot to attack Iraq, they express there might have to be an event on the order of Pearl Harbor in order to turn public opinion to support such an attack. All this pre- 9/11.

Posted by: tierra | January 1, 2010, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

“That’s an extremely expensive method of intelligence gathering…”
NO! That was a benefit of the invasion. The invasion was warranted because Saddam Hussein refused to comply with the conditions of the original 1991 cease fire.
“If 550 tons was all he had why did he ship it all to Canada…”
Saddam Hussein did not ship the yellowcake uranium to Canada. That shipment took place in July 2008–long after Saddam Hussein’s death in 2006. The removal of the 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium insured that it would not fall into the hands of insurgents who might try to sell it to Iran. Iraq sold the yellowcake uranium to Cameco Corp, a Canadian uranium producer. It is to be processed at facilities in Ontario to be used in energy-producing reactors.

Posted by: James Danley | January 1, 2010, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

All these comments regarding what Bush knew, etc. are interesting, but kind of beside the point. The failure that led to 9/11 was bipartisan. The lesson is that the fevered anti-communist imagination is more dangerous to US security. That, and don’t give money to religious fundamentalists just because they happen to be on your side at the moment.

Posted by: Flash Override | January 1, 2010, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

That ‘yellow cake’ was known by the Americans since the FIRST gulf war – it was nothing new! It was not only known by the Americans back in 1991, the Americans secured it and it was being monitored by the IAEA.
You act as if this ‘yellow cake’ was a big discovery of the Bush Jr. attack on Iraq – not true at all.
“Following the 1991 Gulf War, the IAEA removed all known Iraqi stocks of nuclear material that could be used in weapons, in accordance with the provisions of UN Security Council Resolution 687. All other radioactive material, including uranium, remained and was checked once a year by the IAEA, under the terms of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, until December last year.
“At that time, the bulk of all known nuclear material in Iraq was stored in sealed barrels at the Tuwaitha nuclear research facility. The IAEA says that in December, 500 tonnes of “yellowcake” and 1.8 tonnes of low-enriched uranium remained at Tuwaitha, although hundreds of other highly radioactive, industrial sources were still in the country.
“When Iraq fell under US control on 9 April 2003, the occupying powers failed to properly secure Tuwaitha and other nuclear sites. Occupying forces also failed to conduct an inventory of materials at any of the sites.”
Hence the later great relief when it was shipped to Canada.

Posted by: tierra | January 1, 2010, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm

As for the Downing Street Memo…
(1) This was written on July 23, 2002. You can read the memo on the Internet. It DOES NOT mention anything about a Pearl Harbor like event that might be needed for the public to support an attack of Iraq.
(2) The Bush Administration had been working for months to convince the UN Security Council to take a firmer stance towards Saddam Hussein and issue a final ultimatum. The Bush Administration knew that it could not threaten force if it wasn’t prepared to use force. So obviously they planned the attack before the ulimatum was to be issued. The hope was that Saddam Hussein would finally comply with the conditions of the 1991 cease fire and force would not be necessary.
(3) On Nov 8, 2002 the UN Security Council passed the UN Security Resolution 1441– Offering Iraq a “final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations.” Unfortunately over the course of the next few months it became obvious that the UN Security Council had no intentions of following through on this final ultimatum.
(4) So Bush issued his own threat–knowing that he was not bluffing. Unfortunately France, Germany and Russia convinced Saddam Hussein that the United States would not invade. So Saddam Hussein refused to comply and Bush followed through on his threat.
I would be surprised if the Pentagon didn’t already have detailed plans should war with Iran, North Korea or China ever breakout.

Posted by: James Danley | January 1, 2010, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

“That ‘yellow cake’ was known by the Americans since the FIRST gulf war.”
Tierra, thanks for the clarification. At least you recognize that Saddam Hussein wasn’t just stockpiling daisies!

Posted by: James Danley | January 1, 2010, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

“That ‘yellow cake’ was known by the Americans since the FIRST gulf war.”
Tierra, thanks for the clarification. At least you recognize that Saddam Hussein wasn’t just stockpiling daisies!
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The yellow cake was secured by Americans in 1991, was being monitored and was in compliance with agreements put in place with the knowledge and consent of the American government.

Posted by: tierra | January 1, 2010, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

Posted by: tierra | Jan 1, 2010 10:15:53 PM
Thank you tierra, I knew the yellowcake was a red herring but I’d forgotten the specifics. You’re good at this kind of thing so maybe you can find James a specific example of a warning the Bush administration received before 9/11 since he claimed there was never any. Considering the volumes that have been written about it and all the testimony including people like Richard Clarke it shouldn’t be too difficult. I find it hard to believe that during all those briefings Bush attended that James posted about everybody was telling him that everything was fine.

Posted by: Skip | January 1, 2010, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

Posted by: James Danley | Jan 1, 2010 10:41:32 PM
You can justify the Iraq war till the cows come home but Americans aren’t going to tolerate another, at least till the next generation comes along that fails to heed the lessons of history.

Posted by: Skip | January 1, 2010, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

Do you feel safer now with Obama than you did with Bush?
Posted by: Nephron
well, of course,
no 9/11 or anthrax attacks
no pre emptive invasions
unless you consider Ft. Hood Obamas fault, and if you do, you’ll have to explain why the shooter who was in the military before the 08 election wasn’t known about by Bush

Posted by: XX | January 1, 2010, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

Posted by: Skip | Jan 1, 2010 11:04:58 PM
The thing I find really creepy is that (from what I have read) on the day the London subways were attacked by terrorists, there was a ‘training exercise’ going on about the London subways being attacked.
And on the day the 9/11 hijackers struck, there was a “trainging exercise” (OPERATION VIGILANT GUARDIAN) going on about highjackers striking in the Northeastern U.S.

Posted by: tierra | January 1, 2010, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

“A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th.
“On a BBC Radio 5 interview that aired on the evening of the 7th, the host interviewed Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, which bills itself as a ‘crisis management’ advice company, better known to you and I as a PR firm.
“Peter Power was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti Terrorist Branch.
“Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life.”
BBC
And the American ‘training exercise’ was under the name I mentioned – OPERATION VIGILANT GUARDIAN.

Posted by: tierra | January 1, 2010, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

“…maybe you can find James a specific example of a warning the Bush administration received before 9/11…”
So you admit that you accused President Bush of not reacting to intelligence warnings prior to 9/11 yet you aren’t aware of any such intelligence warnings. Interesting!
Now then, yes there were thousands of generic warnings or tips from all over the world. Most had no, or little, specifics and as such never rose to the level of being passed on to the White House. The August 6, 2001 PDB indicated that the FBI was “conducting approximately 70 full-field investigations throughtout the U. S. that it (the FBI) considers bin Laden-related.” AND that the FBI and CIA were independently investigating a call to the U. S. Embassy in the United Arab Emirates “saying that a group or bin Laden supporters was in the U. S. planning attacks with explosives.” This was not ignored. And the Bush Administration didn’t just sit idly by. They were trying to determine the validity of that tip as well as trying to obtain more specific details. That is the purpose of the Presidential Daily Briefings.

Posted by: James Danley | January 2, 2010, 12:26 am 12:26 am

“So you admit that you accused President Bush of not reacting to intelligence warnings prior to 9/11 yet you aren’t aware of any such intelligence warnings”
Oh I’m aware of them, I just can’t name them off the top of my head. But how about this from the Washington Post 10/01/06:
“The July 10 meeting between Tenet, Black and Rice went unmentioned in the various reports of investigations into the Sept. 11 attacks, but it stood out in the minds of Tenet and Black as the starkest warning they had given the White House on bin Laden and al-Qaeda.
Afterward, Tenet looked back on the meeting with Rice as a tremendous lost opportunity to prevent or disrupt the Sept. 11 attacks”
Notice it says “starkest”, plainly implying it wasn’t the only one.
Are you going to claim Rice is not part of the Bush Administration, like Cheney is not part of the executive branch?

Posted by: Skip | January 2, 2010, 12:47 am 12:47 am

Or how about….
May 16, 2002WASHINGTON (CNN) — President Bush’s daily intelligence briefings in the weeks leading up to the September 11 terror attacks included a warning of the possibility that Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda network would attempt to hijack a U.S.-based airliner, senior administration officials said Wednesday.

Posted by: Skip | January 2, 2010, 12:53 am 12:53 am

“The July 10 meeting between Tenet, Black and Rice went unmentioned in the various reports of investigations into the Sept. 11 attacks, but it stood out in the minds of Tenet and Black as the starkest warning they had given the White House on bin Laden and al-Qaeda.”
I don’t doubt that they felt the warning was the “starkest” in their mind. I can’t judge that since as far as I know no one has said exactly what that warning was. And we don’t know what was done with that information. I doubt that Tenet or Black know exactly what was done with that information either. THAT and some of the other warnings could have been among the “approximately 70 full-field investigations” that were being conducted by the FBI at the time.
As to Tenet’s recollections, in 2004, Tenet testified before Congress that he didn’t meet with Bush for the entire month of August 2001. Yet we now know that wasn’t true! He was present at the PDB in Crawford, TX on Aug 17, 2001. And he briefed President Bush on Aug 31, 2001 upon Bush’s return to Washington D. C. And we now also know that Tenet failed to mention the Zacarias Moussaoui’s case to Bush until after 9/11. I would have considered THAT a key piece of information.

Posted by: James Danley | January 2, 2010, 1:15 am 1:15 am

“President Bush’s daily intelligence briefings in the weeks leading up to the September 11 terror attacks included a warning of the possibility that Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda network would attempt to hijack a U.S.-based airliner, senior administration officials said Wednesday.”
THAT was mentioned in the August 6, 2001 PDB: “We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a [redacted] service in 1998 saying that bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to secure the release of ‘Blind Sheikh’ Omar Abdel Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists..”

Posted by: James Danley | January 2, 2010, 1:22 am 1:22 am

As a follow up, as I recall George Tenet testified before the 9/11 Commission. If the July 10, 2001 meeting stood out so much, why didn’t he mention it himself to the 9/11 Commission?

Posted by: James Danley | January 2, 2010, 1:29 am 1:29 am

I’m satisfied the statement that “There were never any specific credible warnings” is purely a matter of opinion and a biased one at that. It’s my opinion that if Al Gore had been declared the winner of the election he and his people would have taken these warnings seriously and 9/11 would have been thwarted.

Posted by: Skip | January 2, 2010, 1:40 am 1:40 am

Skip, if you were President of the United States and was briefed on a threat that someone wanted to hijack a plane–no date specific, no time specific, no airline specific, no flight number–what would you do? Would you ground all flights indefinitely, knowing that would tank the economy?

Posted by: James Danley | January 2, 2010, 1:40 am 1:40 am

If President Clinton had taken the 1993 World Trade Center bombing more seriously–as an act of war instead of a criminal act–9/11 might have been prevented. In fact, the attacks on the embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 and the attack on the USS Cole in 2000 might have also been averted!

Posted by: James Danley | January 2, 2010, 1:45 am 1:45 am

This is truly a bipartisan response to “fixing” our national security failures. Vacations, holidays all have a higher priority. Congress will meet Jan. 21st? That’s almost a month from the regulations, we’re still using, that created this potential tragedy. Sharing information among federal agencies is the problem – too many egos.

Posted by: Don | January 2, 2010, 8:35 am 8:35 am

He cleared the “decks”? Obama and congress should have cleared their calenders and gotten to work pronto. Does Obama believe that AQ will wait until after his vacation is over before they make another terrorist attempt on the US? Will AQ wait until after Jan 21st? No, they will not! Each day that our president and congress dilly dally around they are putting our lives in danger.

Posted by: grannysunni | January 2, 2010, 9:25 am 9:25 am

The ‘Senior White House Official’ in this article said:
“to stay on offense with a combination of partnership and pressure in places like Yemen and elsewhere to ensure that we can counter them and their hateful agenda.”
How about places like the United States of America? Obviously we need to better profiling on keeping terrorists outside of our own borders don’t you think Mr. Senior White House Official? Instead Napolitano et al. are focusing on labeling terrorists as military veterans, pro-life supporters, and NRA members.

Posted by: Tom | January 2, 2010, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

Instead Napolitano et al. are focusing on labeling terrorists as military veterans, pro-life supporters, and NRA members.
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Squawk! Squawk! The right wing parrots have their line.

Posted by: tierra | January 2, 2010, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

But Napolitano said that.

Posted by: Nephron | January 2, 2010, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

Instead Napolitano et al. are focusing on labeling terrorists as military veterans, pro-life supporters, and NRA members.
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Squawk! Squawk! The right wing parrots have their line.
Squawk along . . . . Nephron.

Posted by: tierra | January 3, 2010, 4:13 am 4:13 am

The panty bomber’s father had alerted the CIA that HIS SON was a terrorist and a likely threat.
This sounds pretty specific to me.
How many times has this happened in past terrorist attacks?

Posted by: GiGi | January 4, 2010, 11:59 am 11:59 am

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