By MichaelJames

Dec 5, 2009 6:01am

Obama on Jobs Numbers: Good Trends Not Good Enough

ABC News' Sunlen Miller reports:

President Obama said that while Friday's job numbers reports showed good trends in the economy, that is not enough while some Americans still are losing their jobs.

“We, as a country, are in a very different place than we were when 2009 began,” President Obama said today in his weekly address. “Because of the Recovery Act and a number of other steps we’ve taken, we’re no longer facing the potential collapse of our financial system or a second Great Depression. We’re no longer losing jobs at a rate of 700,000 a month. And our economy’s growing for the first time in a year.”

On Friday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics released figures for November showing a net job loss of just 11,000 – significantly below the 125,000 job loss economists were expecting and the smallest loss of jobs in any month since the recession started. The nation’s unemployment rate dropped slightly from 10.2 percent last month to 10.0 percent for November.

The president said while that is “a continuing positive trend of diminishing job loss,” a good trend is not good enough.

“Trends don’t buy the groceries," he said. "Trends don’t pay the rent or a college tuition. Trends don’t fulfill the need within each of us to be productive, to provide for our families, to make the most of our lives, to reach for our dreams.”

President Obama will give a major address on Tuesday at the Brookings Institution in which he will talk about what he wants to see from Capitol Hill to help create jobs.

“In the coming days, I’ll be unveiling additional ideas aimed at accelerating job growth and hiring as we emerge from this economic storm,” he said in his weekly address. “And so that we don’t face another crisis like this again, I’m determined to meet our responsibility to do what we know will strengthen our economy in the long-run.”

-Sunlen Miller

User Comments

Creating more jobs must show a profit or its not going to work!!!!! The government creating jobs is like welfare and nothing good can come from that, but burden the taxpayer even further. Since RESEARCH was not the primary goal of a lot of companies, recovery will be virtually in first gear for a long time to come.

Posted by: amps911 | December 5, 2009, 7:31 am 7:31 am

Obama said: “Because of the Recovery Act and a number of other steps we’ve taken, we’re no longer facing the potential collapse of our financial system or a second Great Depression.”
Yet despite $13 TRILLION pumped into the banking system, banks are still failing on a weekly basis. Six failed yesterday (130 so far this year). That cost taxpayers $2.4 billion. And the FDIC, currently in the red, said 552 banks are at major risk of going under. And, strangely, under Obama’s “Era of Responsibility” we still don’t know what the Federal Reserve has done with all of our money and Obama hasn’t demanded transparency.
I love the “continuing positive trend of diminishing job loss” quote about unemployment. Yeah, and I gained less weight last month. Whenever the trend finally does turn positive, it’ll take us at least 60 months to get employment to pre-recession levels. I wonder why he didn’t mention that.

Posted by: Mary | December 5, 2009, 7:31 am 7:31 am

Yes a “great trend” and a “hopeful sign”.
6.8% Unemployment Rate when Obama was elected.
10.0% Unemployment Rate and a 17.2% Underemployment Rate just in time for Christmas after one year of Obamanomics.
Merry Christmas

Posted by: Angelo | December 5, 2009, 8:29 am 8:29 am

Wake up America and do your homework-Jobs always go up in Nov/Dec and Down in Jan-Its called seasonal help! Its as useful as that stimulus who put people back to work for a week til the job was done.
Put down the cool aid and start asking questions-

Posted by: ronnie | December 5, 2009, 8:44 am 8:44 am

The job summit will amount to renovating public housing on the backs of taxpayers, helping union members and creating more government jobs, again on the backs of taxpayers. “Green jobs” will also be pushed just in time for the climategate scandal to really hit the public.

Posted by: Kathy | December 5, 2009, 8:46 am 8:46 am

This reminds me of an old Michael Moore skit on Clinton’s job creation, in ’94. How did he do it? Downsized a worker from a good paying job to two menial jobs. That’s a +1 in job creation folks! Less hours, less money, but the government considers THAT progress! Keep this in mind when you hear BS about “creating jobs”… It’s ALL a LIE!!!

Posted by: jafo | December 5, 2009, 9:02 am 9:02 am

Well let’s give the President some credit here. For once he is admitting what jobs have been created is only minor and not good enough.
Of course… he is setting us up for what his plans are for creating new jobs. Raising taxes will be one. Maybe a France like 35 hour work week will be another?

Posted by: den | December 5, 2009, 9:24 am 9:24 am

Any trends that do no coincide with Obama’s vision are RACIST!

Posted by: Obot | December 5, 2009, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Just wait until the Bush tax cuts expire at the end of 2010 for those making at least $250,000;
Just wait until individuals making at least $500,000 and couples making at least $1,000,000 are charged a 5.4% surtax to help pay for healthcare;
Just wait until the wealthy (no specific income cutoff has been announced) are charged a surtax (no specific percentage has been announced) to pay for the surge in Afghanistan;
Just wait until healthcare reform is passed and your private sector health insurance premiums skyrocket (of course then you will just switch to the public option and live happily ever after or until cap and trade is passed–see next item).
Just wait until cap and trade is passed and everyone’s energy bills skyrocket (global warming will finally be nipped in the bud and you will freeze to death–since that will open up a job for someone else that’s okay! Oh! and the polar bears will be moving into your neigborhood);
Just wait until salary caps are passed by Congress (resulting in a massive decline in tax revenues, which will force Congress to charge everyone the afore mentioned surtaxes);
THEN it will probably be easier to determine the employed numbers!

Posted by: James Danley | December 5, 2009, 11:23 am 11:23 am

We need manufacturing jobs to produce exports. We have little money for service sector consumption.

Posted by: Huh | December 5, 2009, 11:56 am 11:56 am

Tax cuts for the rich do not create jobs. The rich spend their money on lobbyists, political campaign funds, the stock market and various forms of derivatives. The stock market rises every time the unemployment rate rises, so the rich have no real vested interest in increasing employment. Yeah, if the rich get a tax break they may eat in fancy restaurants more frequently. But if the kitchen help is all undocumented immigrants, and the servers are paid $ 2.00 an hour, a fancy restaurant is not contributing much to the economy.
Eliminating government regulations may create jobs, but what sort of government regulations should we eliminate? Government regulations ban child labor. They keep minors from entering porno shops and prevent porno shops from locating across the street from a public school. They ban industries from dumping toxic chemicals into rivers. They prevent pharmaceutical companies from adding cocaine to cough syrup (a common practice before the FDA.) Eliminating all these regulations may produce more jobs and certainly will help certain businessmen get a profit, but the long term costs to society far outweigh the short term gains.
Helping small businesses may provide more jobs, but small businesses can provide jobs only if the public can afford to buy the goods and services that small businesses offer. Also Wal-Mart and other big box stores with cheaper prices make it difficult for a lot of small businesses to succeed. If people have to spend all their income on housing and health insurance, the less money they can spend elsewhere. The same applies to student loans. If we eliminate minimum wage laws, a pesky government regulation, then we also eliminate potential customers. So small business thrive only if the average wage-earner has more disposable income.
Roosevelt’s solution to unemployment was a vast public works program, far more extensive than Obama’s American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Once Roosevelt instituted these programs, the unemployment rate decreased. When he cut the budget for these programs, the unemployment rate rose. Ultimately, World War II brought full employment and generated the post-war boom. But World War II involved massive government spending, something no one seems to recognize. I might also add that the wealthy paid a much higher tax rate than they do now.
Reagan had nothing but contempt for Roosevelt. During Reagan’s first year, the unemployment rate was higher than it is now. However Ronald Reagan followed the Roosevelt model. He insisted on a massive defense budget. This created some jobs, but wasted a lot of money. Because of the tax cuts gave to the the rich, Reaganomics left us with a massive public debt. Reagan also de-regulated the banking industry, so whatever gains Reagan made were lost when savings and loans tanked in 1987. Furthermore, Reagan’s contempt for green technology has set our country back 20 years.
Ironically, Republicans always want to increase defense spending as a way to generate jobs, but they forget defense spending is a government expenditure. If you consult a list of government expenditures published by the Moody Economic Institute, you will find that unlike investing in mass transit or education which have a positive return per dollar invested, defense spending has a negative return.
Right now, our infrastructure is in shambles. Last winter, I remember reading articles about our infrastructure, and the common consensus was that Obama’s economic stimulus was merely a down payment. We also need to invest more into green technology, and we need a smart grid.
Again the economic stimulus package was only a down payment. It is not nearly enough to build the smart grid we need.
So, the solution to our problems would be to rebuild the infrastructure at a faster pace, including expanding rail and public transportation systems, and to raise the taxes of the superrich to pay for it. We could also tax stock market transactions, since most of these merely fuel a casino economy. We could grant exemptions for rich people who actually create high quality jobs, rather than slash payrolls for profit. We could grant exemption for people who invest in the smart grid or for investments made in sound green technology (No corn-based ethanol and NO nuclear energy, both which are very inefficient forms of energy.) The superrich do not really invest in jobs any way, so taxing the super rich at a higher rate will have no effect whatsoever on the economy.
Jobs revolve on re-structuring our economy from fossil to clean, green, renewables., as well as a number other measures that you will find in both the Apollo alliance and Al Gore’s book Our Choice. Green tech is an an emerging multi-trillion dollar market. And the long-term costs of doing nothing will cost us trillions of dollars a year. We need to recognize the wave of the future and invest in that future now.

Posted by: William Joseph Miller | December 5, 2009, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

When people invest their money in a company, that company has more money to hire employees.
When people have more money–whether through tax cuts or a pay raise or finding a job–they spend more money. That stimulates the economy and creates jobs.

Posted by: James Danley | December 5, 2009, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

Not reported:
The number of Americans unemployed longer than 6 months increased (again) in November to the highest number in 25+ years. Some of these long-term unemployed Americans dropped off of the official unemployment figures, partially explaining how unemployment dropped to 10% from 10.2% while job losses continued in November (11,000).

Posted by: tjp612 | December 5, 2009, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

Just look at obamas web page, recovery.gov and look up the town Allentown,Pa where he is planning to present us with yet another speech about the economy. There you will see that the town has received 10 million dollars of stimulus money but has created/saved zero jobs as a result of the money received. This is just another example of a failed president and administration. Its no wonder they are working on weekends to try to bankrupt us with this senior killing health care bill. And to William Miller you need to go hook up with Al Gore because you sound as crazy as him.

Posted by: Janet | December 5, 2009, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Hire more speech writers, we want more than one speech a day President O’Babble.

Posted by: Ron | December 5, 2009, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Actually, Janet, you may want to research some of the points in William’s post…
It was a rambling rant against republicans and the rich ate up half-truths and endorsing a tax-payer subsidized approach to energy production.
Which points do you want to endorse?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | December 5, 2009, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

serafina. you fail to list in what sector those jobs were created. Please specify if they were tax costing jobs for bigger government or if they were manfacturing or private industry jobs.

Posted by: Janet | December 5, 2009, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

ever notice that Republicans are never responsible for anything adverse that happens while they run the government, ..
Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) delivered an hour-long speech on the Senate floor condemning the Democratic health care reform bill and accusing Democrats of displaying “the arrogance of power” in trying to pass health reform before the holiday recess.
Hatch predicted that if Republicans had 60 votes and control of all three branches of government, they would “get this country under control”:
‘This will become one more example of the arrogance of power being exerted since the Democrats secured a 60-vote majority in the United States Senate and took over the House and the White House. I dream some day of having the Republicans have 60 votes. I’ll tell you one thing, I think we would finally have the total responsibility to get this country under control and I believe we would. But we never come close to that. There are essentially no checks and balances found in Washington today just an arrogance of power with one party ramming through unpopular and devastating proposals on after the other. ‘
- there must be a disease affecting Republican memory as they seem to have forgotten the majority they had pre 2007..
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desperate revisionism in the light of a tragically ineffective and failed Bush administration is expected, but, to claim republicans would do better’ if only’ they had a majority begs the question as to whether republicans are insane.

Posted by: YO | December 5, 2009, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

to claim republicans would do better’ if only’ they had a majority begs the question as to whether republicans are insane.
Posted by: YO |
Insane? Who knows. Incompetent? The Democrats don’t have a monopoly on incompetence.
Have you ever noticed that the Democrats ARE responsible for anything adverse that happens while they run the government? Got an example?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | December 5, 2009, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

““When Clinton left office, the number of uninsured Americans stood at 38.4 million. By the time Bush left office that number had grown to just over 46.3 million, an increase of nearly 8 million or 20.6 per cent.” Between 2001 and 2005 — when Republicans had majorities in both chambers of Congress — the number of uninsured employees grew by 3.4 million…”
Illegal immigration also rose dramatically over those years (I fault both parties for this). Think Progress’ numbers are inflated and bogus.
In 2007, Joseph Antos of the American Enterprise Institute did an analysis that showed that 45% of the 47 million are not U.S. citizens. Broken down by age, 18 – 24 years old – 29.3% of the 47 million. 25 – 35 years old – 26.9% of the 47 million. Broken down by salary, $75,000 or more per year – 8.5% of the 47 million.
Again, almost half of the uninsured in America are not U.S. citizens. Do you think they aren’t driving up healthcare costs? Think again.

Posted by: Mary | December 5, 2009, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

This Christmas I plan to spend next to nothing.
Last year I had the finances available to do more, but Obama has created such awful economic conditions that I can not afford to risk whatever capital I have left.

Posted by: Angelo | December 5, 2009, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

Hey, ABC, where is the big Max Baucus story/scandal?If that was a Republican it would be the lead story!!

Posted by: WhereAreYou | December 5, 2009, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm

“- there must be a disease affecting Republican memory as they seem to have forgotten the majority they had pre 2007.” “…to claim republicans would do better’ if only’ they had a majority begs the question as to whether republicans are insane.”
Sen. Hatch said, “I dream some day of having the Republicans have 60 votes.” A 60-40 majority, not just a majority.
The Senate majorities 1995-2006
Jan 1995 – Dec 1996 Rep 52 Dem 48
Jan 1997 – Dec 1998 Rep 55 Dem 45
Jan 1999 – Dec 2000 Rep 55 Dem 45
Jan 2001 – May 2001 Rep 50 Dem 50
May 2001 – Dec 2002 Dem 50 Rep 49 Ind 1
Jan 2003 – Dec 2004 Rep 51 Dem 49 Ind 1
Jan 2005 – Dec 2006 Rep 55 Dem 45 Ind 1
It takes 60 votes to end a filibuster. THAT is what Sen. Hatch is referring to. Not a simple majority. Had the Republicans had the 60 votes in 2005, they would have passed the legislation that might have avoided the flexible subprime mortgage crisis that precipitated the 2008 financial crisis.

Posted by: James Danley | December 5, 2009, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

“Had the Republicans had the 60 votes in 2005, they would have passed the legislation that might have avoided the flexible subprime mortgage crisis…”
Had the Democrats had an extra seat on the Supreme Court in 2000 we would have had a recount in Florida, it would have been seen that Gore carried the state and won the election. Besides heeding all the obvious intelligence warnings and thwarting 9/11, and not starting ill-advised invasions and wars, Gore would not have permitted the Fed to turn a blind eye to all the risky mortgages or let the SEC deregulate the big firms that actually collapsed. So there would have been no financial crisis.

Posted by: Skip | December 5, 2009, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

Jemma, you’re right. We can’t know that for sure.
I agree with you that most Republicans “nowadays” aren’t great legislators, especially since the Democrats have such huge majorities. But even when the Republicans held the majorities in both Houses they could have stuck to their principles (or at least the principles upon which they were elected) instead of placing their re-election bid ahead of what was best for the country.

Posted by: James Danley | December 5, 2009, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

Skip, first of all Al Gore could have had a full-state recount had he asked for one. Instead he cherry picked a few heavily Democratic counties in which to try to find enough votes to win the election. By the time that Gore came around to demanding a full-state recount it was too late. Secondly, as I recall, every newspaper that conducted a recount held that Bush won.

Posted by: James Danley | December 5, 2009, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

The Democrats only wanted to give special mortgages to lower income people. Subprime mortgages for everybody must have been a Republican idea. So it sounds to me like you’re saying the Republicans needed a few more seats in 2005 to stave off a disaster of their own making. My suggestion was much simpler: No Republicans = No problem.

Posted by: Skip | December 5, 2009, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

“The Democrats only wanted to give special mortgages to lower income people.”
Are you kidding? They gave mortgages to people without jobs, without incomes. They gave mortgages to people who couldn’t afford them. How is that a good thing in your eyes?

Posted by: Krakatoa | December 5, 2009, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

The CRA stipulated that mortgages were supposed to be written so lower income people COULD afford them. If anybody without jobs or an income got mortgages the total value of all of them combined would only be a tiny fraction of the housing bubble.

Posted by: Skip | December 5, 2009, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

July, 2002
“President Bush announced an Administration effort to increase home ownership rates among African Americans and Hispanics by 5.5 million by 2010.
“The plan would provide down payment assistance to 40,000 minority homebuyers each year.”

Posted by: tierra | December 5, 2009, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

Foggy
- after Bush/Cheney, a republican whining about not having a chance to be the majority in congress and the white house is a little much even by their ‘who me/what me worry’ ‘standards’.

Posted by: YO | December 6, 2009, 12:16 am 12:16 am

People, you can google all the cute little info that fits your political viewpoint but that doesn’t change the fact that my friend who used to have an executive salary has been out of a job for a year, (with two kids in college and a big fat mortgage.) My neighbor just was let go last week after 15 years at the company and my husband and son are working many more hours for half the pay.
Those big fat tax revenues to feed this governments pet projects aren’t going to be flowing in. So you all can point fingers at who did what, when and pass blame. But it doesn’t change the fact that when the stimulus money runs out, how are those “jobs saved” folks (teachers) going to be paid? My sons college is going to be losing 25% of their funding. They are talking about resorting to on line classes to save money.
Believe me people know when jobs are being created and they’re not! We’re just slowly bankrupting our country in the name of progress.

Posted by: enoughalready | December 6, 2009, 4:22 am 4:22 am

Posted by: enoughalready | Dec 6, 2009 4:22:01 AM
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Yes, there has been a world-wide economic meltdown. Every industrialize western country has suffered large job losses, stock market crashes and bankruptcies.
And each western industrialized nation has instituted stimulus plans, tax relief and deficit funding attempting to hold together their countries economies.
There are signs of improvement, but nobody is out of the mire and the job losses are real, not a joke.
But we also don’t live in a TV world like some seem to think, where a switch can be flicked and suddenly we’re out of a serious recession. It doesn’t happen – that’s why a lot of the programs work to keep people with some kind of uninsurance income, keep people warm and off the streets, some kind of health coverage, maybe some mortage protection.
You’ll remember during the Great Depression, hundreds of thousands roamed the country looking for work, or a warm place to sleep, or some food to eat.
At the same time the Recovery and Reinvestment Plan puts in place some longer term programs to create activity by retrofitting buildings, ramping up the energy grid, putting medical systems and records into digital format, ramping up alternative industries and so on . . .
There ain’t no magic wand. There ain’t no television switch to change channels.

Posted by: tierra | December 6, 2009, 5:01 am 5:01 am

No question, the job loss numbers this week were encouraging. This economy is about jobs; this idea of a job-less recovery is a intellectual gyration for economists to ponder and politicians to spin but in the end, it is hollow and makes no sense. I hope this trend continues and we see actual job growth in the coming months.
The question we have is how did the Obama Stimulus/other programs contribute to these excellent results? We have not seen any numbers on the jobs created (or saved) as the direct results of the Stimulus (and other programs) from the WH that anyone can believe. I am not trying to be picky here but it seems to me that we need something more than faith on these numbers. In a word, is this the beginning of a trend? Or is this a blip on the screen? Earlier months were revised down that contributed to the overall numbers going down from 10.2% to 10.0%. This revising after the fact happens alot with employment numbers. At this point – from this administration in particular – it is not enough to publish the numbers we need to know the sources and how those numbers were tallied (and, perhaps, by whom).
Pat Buchanan said that this was a good week for the President; he had a job summit and the next day the unemployment numbers came down significantly. He then went on to say that the administration will continue to hope for good results from their economic policies. This “hope” business makes me real nervous – I think we need to see how we connect the dots of positive results and the Obama administration’s policies.
It was a better week for the 100,000 more people that were forecasted to have lost jobs last week as well. I am glad for them and glad for American workers in general. I hope this trend continues and this economy starts to produce jobs and move us out of wreckage of recession. It seems to me that we need more than a Victory lap by the President – we need to see how this happened and how he plans to make sure it continues to produce similar results.

Posted by: Lone Star Rules | December 6, 2009, 7:37 am 7:37 am

“Trends don’t buy the groceries,” he said. “Trends don’t pay the rent or a college tuition. Trends don’t fulfill the need within each of us to be productive, to provide for our families, to make the most of our lives, to reach for our dreams.”
Nice try goober but your not on the campaign trail now it’s put up or shut up time! America needs a leader with a backbone. And your not it !!! in the military what were seeing with your administrationd would be called a cluster f—- I guess it’s called something else at 1600 Pa. ave.

Posted by: formerdem | December 6, 2009, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

“And so that we don’t face another crisis like this again, I’m determined to meet our responsibility to do what we know will strengthen our economy in the long-run.”
14 months ago our economy was brought to its knees as the deflating of the housing bubble exposed the over-leveraged financial institutions. So far, our leaders have responded with bailouts and printing money…and not one piece of legislation that might reign in any of the excesses that led to the problem.
Seems to me that the banks and Big Finance are getting exactly the kind of governance that they bought and paid for.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | December 6, 2009, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

Trends aren’t made up of one month of “good” unemployment data.
Still waiting for a month where the vaunted stimulus cash (from over a half year ago) will stimulate job growth.
Obama. Loser. Tomayto, Tomahto.

Posted by: 2Brixshy | December 6, 2009, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Those of us with multiple real estate holdings who paid attention also saw the writing on the wall….
Posted by: Verity |
What did the writing say?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | December 6, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

What did the writing say?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | Dec 6, 2009 2:18:02 PM
Sell high (during overinflated house values), buy low (now)

Posted by: Verity | December 6, 2009, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Sell high (during overinflated house values), buy low (now)
Posted by: Verity |
Good thing you were paying attention.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | December 6, 2009, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

regulation is certainly something my party is working on.
Posted by: Verity |
Takes a long time to craft legislation with loopholes big enough to fit Goldman Sachs through.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | December 6, 2009, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm

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