Palin Indulges Birthers

I don’t really understand this argument. I have a birth certificate, you have a birth certificate. The president must be enjoying this “controversy” or he would produce the document just like you or I would. It’s just a silly distraction from real issues.

You can find people who believe all kinds of nonsense.
A certain percentage of people still believe Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11. A certain percentage of people believe Obama was born on the planet Zoron.
A certain number of people believe global warming isn’t real, but that doesn’t really matter.
What matters is that the best of our scientists give us the best of their research.

Posted by: tjp612 | Dec 4, 2009 12:29:55 PM
Try to pay attention. ABC has reported on the stolen emails.

“Try to pay attention. ABC has reported on the stolen emails.”
Tierra – Has ABC covered this on their “Nightly News” program?
Nope. Pay attention.

Has ABC covered this on their “Nightly News” program?
Posted by: tjp612 | Dec 4, 2009 12:48:23 PM
I don’t know. Has HELL frozen over?

Mr. Taper, with our economy in shambles and a very serious conflict going on in Afghanistan, don’t you think if you are discussing Governor Palin you might discuss her thoughts and ideas on these real issues, instead of this kind of junk news? Trying being a professional journalist again instead of a tabloid writer!

Sarah embraces most anything from the right which will make her money. Sarah is starting to remind me of Ken Lay and Jeff Skilling.

Many of these comments discuss what the media reports. Guys and gals, a free press is driven by the same market desires as any other form of business: Revenue and net income. For this reason the media delivers whatever they think will make them the most money. There is NO news outlet which is bias-free. The traditional networks (ABC, CBS and NBC) are more middle-of-the-road than most. MSNBC caters to the left. Fox caters to the right. They each have their market niches. The alternative is state-controlled media which would deliver a far-less objective viewpoint. Don’t single-source your news. Get it from several sources, including those with which you normally do not agree.

tjp612: Climategate?? are you for real.You will just say anything they tell you to right. Im not going to listen to a nutjob like you who has the opinoin that global warming isnt happening or that humans didnt cause it when i can look at scientific data over the last sixty years that proves you wrong in every way. Just keep on doing what they tell you to do. but I actually looked into myself and found out the truth for myself. Do you think its a coincidence that the large levels or carbon dioxide started the exact years we had the industrial revolution. That was sixty years ago and now the levels are off the charts unlike anything the earth has ever seen. Ice is melting thats a fact and there is nothing we can do to stop it except change our ways and start a new green energy industry that will create millions of jobs. but then again if we did that you wouldnt have anything to complain about. Lets leave the future of this country up to the smart people shall we.

Hey Palin, keep making the news!
Become an icon!
Run for President!
Kill the GOP.
Posted by: Silent 3 | Dec 4, 2009 1:13:18 PM
Oh yes, very grown up. Your mother would be proud.

LOL, the libs also believed Sarah was on the grassy knoll, one of the WH party crashers, votes present on any tough issues, associated with controversial pastor, using government resources for photo-op then blamed someone else when got caught, date nights on the government dime, bowing to…………..

Barrack Obama hung out in bill ayers’ living room MULTIPLE times, thus, “he palled around with terrorists”.
He wrote in his book, dreams from my deadbeat father, “white folks greed runs a world of need”.
He said in a san francisco rally last year that he would “bankrupt the coal industry”, and that “under his administration, energy prices would sky rocket”.
He said in a chicago interview in 2001 that “I think it was a tragedy that the warren courts did not get into wealth redistribution”.
He said in his audacity of hope book, titled after rev racist’s speech, “in college i sought out the marxist professors”.
He told joe the plumber “I just wanna spread it around a bit”.
We have a better chance of hearing about kim jung il’s college days then we do BO’s, but hey, Palin thinks the birth certificate is still a concern so it means she’s crazy!
BO is surrounded by crazy socialists and clouds of lies. I don’t know about his birth certificate and I don’t care. I care that he is a socialist that he HATES capitalism and America itself.

Posted by: Dave | Dec 4, 2009 2:23:12 PM
Agreed. And when will the L.A. Times release that videotape?

You know what is so crazy about Palin supporters? They are always trying to divert attention away from her comments and associations while demanding that the media report on the “real news” like what someone elses associations and comments are or were.
Where is the bias in reporting what she actually said? These are quotes; cold, hard facts!

When are we going to stop hearing from this poorly educated, empty-headed, lying troll? Sarah, shutup already. Just because you are a Sarah barracuda doesn’t make you smart or compassionate. What are you doing to get people jobs? What are you doing to feed hungry people? Why does America like to hear the words of the ignorant?

I just wish Bammy had half the common sense Sarah has……..she is such a breath of “honest” fresh air, something Obama knows nothing about………

Before the election, I saw a post some where stated that Obama lived in Indonesia before returning to U.S. He attended school there. In order to go to elementary school in Indonesia at that time, one MUST BE A CITIZEN OF INDONESIA. So that is to say, he had to abandon his U.S. CITIZENSHIP in order to attend the Indonesian school there.
But I was not sure it was true though.

I did agree with Hillary during the primary: He was not vetted enough.

i just can’t decide who’s more fun, sarah or the people who try to justify their support of her. they’re both highly entertaining.

and that, my friends, is the lunatic fringe, her base of support (besides the guys who think she’s sexy). does she truly not remember attacking Obama and his associates viciously during the campaign? she is either stupid or a liar. probably both.

Palin has the I.Q. of a turnip…a rotten turnip.

You guys are hilarious. If you want to listen to Palin, go right ahead. Thats what America is all about. Yet you do care what the rest of America thinks about you, otherwise you wouldn’t be whining about it all the time. GOP and its followers spend all their time brining people down with negativity and conspiracy theories. Whats Sarahs plan to bring back jobs? To end the war and global terrorism? The only reason she said this was because A) Stock market is back up, about 2500 points below it former high B) Jobs report came back positive. So now all they can harp on is healthcare(which all Congressmen have thru the GOVERNMENT!!!) and the deficeit, which Regean, Bush I and Bush II both helped to build. You guys keep asking why people don’t ask this of Obama, question him on that. We wonder the same about you and Sarah. How can you be Pro Life and for the death penalty? Why do you guys pretend that indivdualism is what makes this country great, that no one should tell you what to do, but then two guys kiss and we have to have a national debate? This is such a ridiculous time, and I’m so glad 50 years from now all you Palin lovers will look like those great people who supported segregation in the 50s. Keep it up, the footage will be fantastic!

No, Jim Rod, I keep telling your poor paranoid souls: no one is afraid of the moronic Palin. We’re disgusted with her lies, her irresponsibility in her dissemination of untruths and distortion, her total hypocrisy, and her idiotic ramblings. Enough is enough of this nitwit who would set herself on fire for attention. Bring her on: I hope she is the Republican candidate. What people like you don’t understand, is that WE HOPe she is the candidate. However, I doubt if even the Republicans are that stupid. You can live in your delusions if you’d like, but wouldn’t it be better if you learned how to ask questions instead of just swallowing everything your “leaders” tell you? I do. Don’t you think it would be better for you to really investigate things on your own and come up with your own conclusiongs instead of being slavishly devoted to people leading you astray? Please don’t make assumptions about others, because you really DON’T know what you’re talking about. The more you talk, the more foolish you appear.

Sarah is simply “the gift that just keeps on giving” isn’t she? She evidently does not even have the brains to understand how many potential voters she runs off when she embraces these type of wing-nuts. That’s ok, I guess. I will simply sit here and LOL and look forward to her destroying the Republican Party in’10 &’12.

Sarah continues to be the leader of the tin-foil helmet brigade.
Not only can Sarah see Russia from her house, she can contact Alpha Centauri via her helmet.

talk from sf: I can’t belive she is stupid enough to step back into that quicksand, because every issue about Obama’s past has been well vetted and she only makes herself look like an idiot to bring it to the surface again. But since you brought it up. . .Obama is a US citizen. He was taken to live in and be schooled in Indonesia as a boy. But you cannot surrender your citizenship until the age of 23, and your parents cannot ever surrender you citizenship for you, at any age, at any point in your life, under any circumstances.

Gosh, mention Palin and the lefts Palin derangement syndrome comes spewing forth in all it’s nastiness…you’re rather scary people.

I think we are well beyond the “born in the USA to be president”restriction, and it should be changed. By that restriction, someone born in the United States, whose parents move to a hostile country when he is three days old, and then he returns at 21 is eligible (when he or she got all her formative education under that hostile goverment), but someone born in another country who is brought here three days later and lives here all their life is ineligible. As for Sarah Palin, she would do well to remember the adage “it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.”

20 years ago, the politician who embarassed themself by speaking was Dan Quayle. (potatoes, anyone?). Then we went nucular over George W’s Bushisms. Now it’s Sarah. Odd that they are all Republicans…

I see all these names of commenters I never see unless there is a Palin thread posted on this blog. It’s almost like they’ve received their marching orders from some “group” to “get out to the blogs and start cutting and pasting Palin insults.” Good job troops!

She said people have a right to ask about his birth. Of course they do, since the Constituion of the US contains a birth circumstance test for the presidency.
The real scandal is why didn’t the MSM thoroughly explore this topic before he was elected?
To this date we don’t know if he was born at home, or if not, in which hospital he was born. We don’t know how his mother showed up a few weeks later taking university classes in Washington State (probably the real location of his birth).
These are only a few of the thousands of questions that remain unanswered from the most open and transparent president in history.

real simple fix, obama needs to have the stat of hawaii realease his signed birth certificate, problem over

Sarah Palin’s book has been fact-checked by legitimate organisations – and by the Republican McCain campaign – and found to be riddled with lies and untruths.
Enough said – the woman does not have a grip on reality; thank God she was not elected.

Aye, Ms. Sarah, the irrepressible wing-nut gift that keeps on giving. Hey, we have to give her some credit. She sold a ton of books, raked in the cash from people wanting a photo with her, Gov. Huck just went down in his own Willie Horton moment, and Pawlenty and Romney seem to get no respect. Palin IS the REPUBLICAN PARTY-unless there is a photo of she and Tiger together somewhere.

If I remember correctly, Ms. Palin was delayed in producing her own health records and they were then heavily redacted. She complained that the records of her deliveries were not and should not be a part of the public inquiry as to her “fitness” to be a vice president. I think before she starts asking others to produce more and more documentation of things they have already proved, she ought to produce the full record, unredacted and let the people judge whether she is fit to serve.

Ms. Palin can say what she wants but the truth of the matter is that the Republicans that really matter in Washington will not campaign along side her if she decides to run for President and no presidential candidate will ever pick her as a running mate for VP. Let her continue to sell her books so and eventually get her version of the Rush Limbaugh Show.

Wow, there is something about Sarah Palin and the Birth issue that really gets the left wingnuts in a tither. Sometime I would like to see a dispasionate discussion of the birth certificate issue, exploring the really legitimate questions without all the wild assertions from either side.
Why won’t Mr. Obama release a copy of his orginial long form birth certificate? This will come out sooner or later, why not now?
What exactly is the meaning of “Natural Born Citizen” in a legal sense? How is conveyed?
Where exactly what Mr. Obama born? At home, in a hospital (which one)?
Did Mr. Obama really attend Occidental College on a scholarship for foreign students? Did Mr. Obama travel intenationally in his twenties on an Indoneasion Passport?
Just a few questions that deserve an answer. Heavens knows we when over Mr. Bush’s health records and military service records pretty thoroughly. Why is Mr. Obama special?

Obama has never produced a real birth certificate. When I was a kid and wanted to play baseball I had to show my original birth certificate. You know the kind that has a baby’s foot print, the name of and the signature of the delivery doctor and the hospital etc. All he has to do to make this go away is show his, WHY WONT HE? HE CANT, HE DOESN’T HAVE ONE. That document in Hawaii is a record that anyone who asks for one can get. Anyone can put birth announcements in a newspaper too. WHERE IS THE PROOF?

She’s a freaking moron.

Sarah is dumber than a box of rocks and so is anyone who would vote for her. Of course those same people probably voted for George W., not once but twice, so I have very low expectations.

joeyjojo: I have no idea where I could possibly find a copy of the certificate the hospital issued to my parents with my footprints. (Its really nothing more than a keepsake). The original of my long form birth certificate is…I don’t know where. I have a copy that my mother gave to me when I left for college. I have two kids: A copy of the short form is sufficient for a baseball team. We know enough about the man and his background to be certain he is, one way or the other, an American citizen.

The woman has the brains of a plastic banana. And, so do the birthers. Get a life and try, please try to pass on a coherent thought other than…DUH.

joeyjojo456789 | That is not the only thing Obama has failed to produce. He’s failed to produce his scholastic records.

To Ceeleelee
Why won’t Mr. Obama release a copy of his orginial long form birth certificate? This will come out sooner or later, why not now?
Response: The only thing any state gives out is a copy of your record of birth. The real original stays with the hospital and the state. Are you worried that Mr. Obama wasn’t born?
What exactly is the meaning of “Natural Born Citizen” in a legal sense? How is conveyed?
Response: That you’re trying to get in what the definition of “is” is. A la Bill Clinton. Splitting hairs. The law states if on parent is a US Citizen, the child is natural born.
Where exactly what Mr. Obama born? At home, in a hospital (which one)?
Response: Doesn’t matter if he was born in a barn. What matters is that one of his parents is a US Citizen.
Did Mr. Obama really attend Occidental College on a scholarship for foreign students? Did Mr. Obama travel intenationally in his twenties on an Indoneasion Passport?
Response: That doesn’t have any bearing or any meaning as to his nationality now, does it?
Dual nationality doesn’t negate his natural born status. You don’t loose your citizenship status no matter what other nationality you may or may not have. He would still be a Natural born citizen.
What else do you have?

Ed -
Moi????
I am not the person who wrote those questions.
However, I agree with the person who did.
obama needs to present all documents mentioned in that post. You, nor any other of his supporters can answer those questions for him.
You know, transparency and all that…

Ed,
Cut the crap.
How about if he just tells the Hawaii public records office to release a copy of his long-form birth certificate to the press? What does he have to hide?
How about if he just tells whatever hospital he was born in to release that fact to the press? What does he have to hide?
How about if he just tells Occidental College to release his college transcripts? What does he have to hide?
How about if he tells Harvard to release his college transcripts? What does he have to hide?
The media and the left wing nut jobs demanded a lot more from Mr. Bush, and he complied. But then, he had nothing to hide.

Before the election, I saw a post some where stated that Obama lived in Indonesia before returning to U.S. He attended school there. In order to go to elementary school in Indonesia at that time, one MUST BE A CITIZEN OF INDONESIA. So that is to say, he had to abandon his U.S. CITIZENSHIP in order to attend the Indonesian school there.

mrgmorgan56 If you’d read her book you would view her very differently. Sarah Palin is anything BUT ignorant or stupid. She is a tough, gutsy, woman who has fought her way up to get where she is now. Many people who’ve got in her way or disagreed with her have paid the price with their employment. Don’t be fooled by the friendliness and the smile. In spite of the fact that she has a problem with giving quick spur of the moment answers, behind that smile is a very intelligent brain. According to her book, many people have found that out the hard way, especially people who have stood up or fought against her in any way. Sarah Palin is no marshmallow. She has no problem firing employees or getting incumbent politicians voted out of office if she thinks they are corrupt. She has done it many times including to some in her own party. In spite of the smile and the friendliness and the down-home country girl personality, this woman is as sharp as a tack and she has steel in her backbone. She will fight like a tiger for what she thinks is right and no one had better get in her way! She is exactly who we need as our next president! Beneath that smile, this woman is a serious politician and she takes no nonsense!

sara Would you say the same thing to a man? Would you tell a man to go home and take care of their children? I doubt it! If you won’t then aren’t you being sexist?

And another thing, Sara, if you think the republican base is small you apparently haven’t been listening to the news lately! People have been waiting in line by the thousands to meet Sarah and get her to sign their books. Also according to Barnes and Noble and Amazon.com her book has already sold over a million copies and is still selling. That is NOT a small base!

The only thing that is bothersome here is that the President doesn’t seem prepared to produce a legitimate birth certificate. I have to be honest, I am tied of this conversation and it continues to cloud the issues. If the President or his staff will simply get the birth records for Barack Obama and publish them on the internet this whole thing will go away and we can go back to getting our eye on the ball.
The President is not some kind of Manchurian candidate or some kind of “plant” to put us in a position to surrender to some foreign power. All that talk is nonsense, superstitious, stupid.
It would just help to get back to the real issues on the direction of this country if the President would simply produce whatever he has and let’s move on.