The Obama Doctrine

Point #2 can be translated to “axis of evil” (though Iraq is no longer part of that axis).
Point #3 sounds like “you’re either with us or against us”.
This all sounds familiar but can’t put my finger on it.
Sigh…

King did go through non violent means to force change but there were people killed in this process. I agree we have to be different, turning the other cheek and acting according to the laws we have but somehow I don’t think putting yourself at a disadvantage or allowing others to walk all over you is the right thing to do. Somewhere the eye for an eye method has to be used as well.

Are you for real, guy? You’re equating Obama to Bush because he thinks that the international community to engage in diplomacy with oppressive regimes that have been rattling sabers in regards to their nuclear capabilities for the past 8+ years?
Obama worship may have at one point verged into ridiculous territory, but the “just the same as George Bush” crowd have been out of their heads since day one.

The Obama Doctrine: Send a few other mothers’ sons off to fight a war with suicidal rules of engagement.
I wonder where Mr Powell is. Wasn’t his doctrine not to commit troops except in overwhelming force? Why isn’t Mr. Powell speaking out? Better yet, why isn’t the media camped out on Mr. Powell’s door step demanding a statement?
Hello, Main-Stream Media, Where are you? You foisted this administration on us. At least try to keep them honest.

We stopped torture? I think it’s been slowed down, not sure about stopped. I think he means we won’t investigate it, expose it, prosecute it.

He is against torture? I thought he essentially has endorsed or reserved the option to preserve all techniques. Closed Gitmo? Right…

Point #4. And yet he supports the regimes of both Iran and Honduras? I am embarrassed for you, Jake, you are a far better journalist than this. Were Neda still alive, she might agree.

It’s true that Ghandi, King, even Jesus counseled turning the other cheek. It’s also true that they were all killed in brutal and violent ways. This is what makes their personal positions amazing–they put their lives on the line to uphold an ideal they believed in.
Yet, government must protect the believers and unbelievers equally, and as such it cannot put the lives of their citizens on the line to uphold an ideal that each citizen does not fully embrace. As such, these ideals are for men, and not for governments.
I am vastly surprised that Obama has come to this position. I never would have expected a Marxian idealist to do anything except roll over in a string of failed peace gambits.

Thank God President Obama voiced the tragic necessity of war, and America’s distinct role in the world. His sober words are a necessary tonic against the breezy facile pacifism, mostly among his most staunch supporters, that would let evil have its way.
I have written more than a few criticisms of our president on this newsblog, and this is the first time I can applaud for him,”Well said!”

Betcha GWB just loved this speech! Reality sucks, don’t it.

I dunno…..I think that the Nobel people were looking for that “We are the ones, we’ve been waiting for…” speech. Some of the audience looked pretty stunned when Obama said “some of them will kill…some will BE killed” in relation to the afghan escalation. My advise would be to deposit the prize check –immediately….Just in case they stop payment on it.

So the Just War Bush Doctrine is all right so long as Obama preaches it.
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Whoops! Bush got the wrong country! Iraq wasn’t harboring al Qaeda, Iraq was not involved in 9/11, Iraq didn’t have weapons of mass destruction. Oopsie Daisy!
Tens of thousands of Iraqi deaths later and the country is still in turmoil and destruction . .. thanks Mr. Bush.
Study a map – learn where Afghanistan is and where Iraq is . . .

Another Obama speech… Zzz… Zzz…. ZZZZZzzzz……

tierra – MORE empty words from a MORON… yeah, he can sure “talk the talk” (just as long as someone writes the speech for him and then projects the words up on the teleprompters), but he has FAILED TIME AND TIME AGAIN to “walk the walk.”
YOU are apparently satisfied with words. I’M not satisfied with words… I DEMAND ACTION. I DEMAND RESULTS.
Obviously, in the absence of any discernible action or results from this moron, I’m NOT HAPPY AT ALL!!! And I’ll make that known in 326 more days – IN THE VOTING BOOTH!!

This administration is some odd combination of the Zoolander movie and the movie Being There where Chuancy Gardener is mistaken for seer.
Take a deep look at both Congress and the Whitehouse crew. Do you see anything there that looks like intelligence?
We know that funded health saving accounts, similar to what John Mackey proposed, are the most cost effective way to insure everyone. The thought experiment is fairly simple, does any of the money go to anyone other than medical providers – no insurance companies involved in day to day health care. Insurance is only used for catastrophic care. Simple, American ingenuity – totally ignored by this crew.
Well someone has to look good – we can think of it as a job they can do.

No Need for our president to be apologetic about the WAR in Afghanistan… We are up to it …The country and the whole world is behind you… We have the right to defend our nation.. The history can not forget the people we lost in 9/11…… Do you know that were Muslims in the twin towers were killed too…. We pray for them … I can tell you the details because you know .. We Muslims are Americans suffer the most.. But we love this country

One man makes a comment on the morning news this morning. HE SAID HE THOUGHT THE WE HAVE HEARD THE OBAMA DOCTRINE and now I see it in these headlines. Why does the media take one sentence from some one and run with it. Why does the media try to make something negative out of every thing our President does. Now we’ll hear about a so called “Obama Doctrine all over the networks. When this idea came from a talking head this morning. Really someone’s opinion. Our President is intelligent enough to let us know if he has a Doctrine. It’s like some people have forgotten that these wars have been going on, they did not start with our President. He is trying to get us
out of the war. Just think if all the heads in Washington had just come together for the sake of America and not set up camp against everything this President does, we would be in a lot better shape. If our President made a speech about it being freezing in
Chicago, there will be those that would disagree with him just because he said it was freezing. It looks like some Americans have forgotten who was President from 2000-2008. It’s like we would rather pretend it did not happen, and believe that President Obama is the reason for the trouble we are having now. Then we act like little children pulling on our mother’s dress tail saying I want this, I want that, now,now, now. Thinking all our problems can be over in these few months, some of us are so impatient with our President. Do some of us really beleive this President doesn’t want people to have needed healthcare, jobs, homes, college educations, PLEASE, remember where he came from. He was not raised in a wealthy home with all the previledges and many in
Washington had. He can relate to not having healthcare, jobs, etc. JUST BE PATIENT AND GIVE PRESIDENT OBAMA A CHANCE. PRAY FOR HIM THAT HE MAKES SOUND DECISIONS FOR OUR COUNTRY, BECAUSE HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
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In short, The best defense is offence.

How about OTHER people be allowed to have a view
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Do I not have the right to respond to other peoples’ points of view? Of course I do.
If you don’t agree with my viewpoint jato, try to counteract it. Pretending I don’t have the right to respond is silly.

I thought it was a good speech. The vibe of the whole thing was weird tho, they gave him the award for fighting for peace? But I cant help but feel like it’s really the US military that deserves the prize as a whole. Actually, i’m still confused as to why he got the award. Good speech tho.

I still don’t get it.

smug? I guess so. Amazingly so.

“smug? I guess so. Amazingly so.”
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The ongoing right wing line of attack on Obama – ‘smug’, ‘uppity’, etc . ..
No need to actually listen to the speeches, nor the intelligence behind the thoughts put forward – not need to acknowledge or take up the points made or the arguments (cause you’d lose) – just make up personal attacks.
The politics of personal attacks – brought to you by the good, decent, religious folks of the right wing.

Hmm, starting to sound like Bush.
Posted by: Edwin | Dec 11, 2009 4:49:42 AM
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Sounding like Bush? You’ve got to be kidding . . .
1) that the US must hold itself to a higher code of conduct, hence his invocation of his ban on torture and his order of the closure of the detainee center at Guantanamo Bay;
2) that the international community, if it is truly serious about trying to avoid war, must fully engage tough diplomacy against rogue nations such as North Korea and Iran that would keep crises surrounding those nations from becoming wars;
3) that the world must engage with governments of ill-repute, and try to bring them back into the fold;

Is this where the cattle hangs?
Still yelling . . . thinking your sides man/woman is the new boss, and somehow that makes you right or powerful by proxy? As you can see, the war machine is still churning, torture continues along with immunity for war crimes, Wall St. has been bailed out and is posting record profits, Civil liberties are a joke, and jobs will be decimated until we can match the slave labor of our most favored trading partners. Tell me. Am I speaking of Bush, or Obama, left or right. There. Is. No. Freaking. Difference.

We’ll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgment of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song
I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
And I’ll get on my knees and pray
We don’t get fooled again
Don’t get fooled again
Change it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fall that’s all
But the world looks just the same
And history ain’t changed
‘Cause the banners, they all flown in the last war
[ refrain ]
I’ll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I’ll get all my papers and smile at the sky
For I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?
There’s nothing in the street
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now the parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight
[refrain]
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

Some of us do understand the Obama (Bush III) speech. The shorthand version is: “Kill a commie for Christ.” Does that sound familiar?

What a vast difference between Bush’s inability to utter a comprehensible sentence and the brilliant comments by President Obama. Even if God himself, through some miracle, would endorse Obama’s comments, there would still be people who hate him, distrust him, question his allegance and place of birth. What a pitiful lot they are.

tierra ……Jedda is right.

Obama and you never were never subjected to discrimination or slavery or Jim Crow. That is why he is president never had to fight for his country and is still a celebrity.
Obama is ivy league white kid!!

Well he just stated the obvious. But I’m glad he did.

So what truely is the Obama Doctrine???
Campaign Obama said he was against all war.
Yesterday Obama touted nothing but war and how war is necessary.
Which is it?

Be careful what you wish for.
As the majority of the country applauds Obama’s defense of a robust American foreign policy in Oslo, we should examine our assumptions.
Is it really self-evident that we want to see an activist foreign policy employed by acolytes of Jeremiah “God Damn America” Wright who accused Israel of racism? Would we really be comfortable with the foreign policy initiatives of Bill ”Pentagon Bomber” Ayers? Of Van “I am a communist” Jones? Of Anita “My favorite political philosopher was Mao” Dunn?
Is it unfair to point out that many in the Obama administration and in his past are not in the mainstream of American thought and that this gives us a clue as to what a robust foreign policy would be like? We can see what an Obama administration is doing to revolutionize America at home, do we really want to see a radical Left foreign policy enforced by American troops?
I view Obama’s troop surge in Afghanistan as a cynical political move designed for domestic purposes. To abandon the field after repeatedly telling the country that Afghanistan was the “good war” would have damaged his image beyond repair. The surge is “boob bait for the Bubbas” as Moynihan famously said: not enough to get the job done but enough to placate the country.
If the sides we took in Honduras and during the anti-government riots in Iran are an indication, I do not want to applaud an Obama administration should it ever take its eye off of domestic policy and focus on foreign fields.

“4) that a nation’s hostility towards human rights and economic injustice cannot be allowed to thrive, for those conditions lead to war in the long term.”
Except for Iran.
And China.
And North Korea.

The democrats had pulled the wool over my eyes for the last time. I viote 3rd party.

I see most comments here are driven purely by the need to blame or hate someone whom most of you didn’t bother to get to know, didn’t vote for and didn’t listen too. Grow up and take some responsibility for yourselves.

“…Is it unfair to point out that many in the Obama administration and in his past are not in the mainstream of American thought and that this gives us a clue as to what a robust foreign policy would be like?”
“…If the sides we took in Honduras and during the anti-government riots in Iran are an indication, I do not want to applaud an Obama administration should it ever take its eye off of domestic policy and focus on foreign fields.”
Moneyrunner, your post is right on the money. Words are one thing, actions are another…

“I take away from it that President Obama is an opportunist.”

While I agree with much of what the President said in Oslo, I am like many here in that I am cautious about believing that I know what he meant. As John Stewart has been prone to point out lately, if one removes the byline this could juat as easilly been a speech given by the President in 2004, a President, incidently, that both Senator and candidate Obama frequently and vehemently repudiated. Like many Obama speeches, though, there were significant places that required the audience to “fill in the blank.”
While going on at length about the sometimes necessity of fighting, he was rather vague about the principles upon which this necessity might hinge. Judging from his administration’s unwillingness to even engage diplomatically on the side of freedom and democracy in either Honduras or Iran (and actually officially siding against it in the case of the former), it seems fair to conjecture that this is nto a principle upon which this President would rather fight than switch. Amongst his specifics, though, we find “human rights” and “economic injustice.”
While it is difficult for anyone to find fault with the first, this very universal acknowledgement and acceptance has, in the last couple of decades, meant the coopting of this rather nebulous phrase by almost anyone or any group advocating for anything. For some, the cayses of government guaranteed universal housing, food and health care fall under the banner of “human rights.” Based upon his domestic legislative priorities, one might assume the President falls more into this camp than any other.
More disturbing for me, though, is his stated commitment to some ideal of “economic injustice.” While I might consider it unjust for a government to excessively tax its citizens or impose unreasonable restrictions on their freedom to engage in private, mutually beneficial economic agreements with other citizens, I somehow have a hunch this wasn’t exactly what he was thinking about as he penned these words. In fact, if one were to Google “economic injustice,” the entire first page concerns the advocacy of government-sponsored efforts to redistribute wealth to redress economic disparity between citizens. Perhaps the height of irony is the 2005 essay by Jason Miller on a site called Metaphoria, which agonizes that “[s]tarting with Iraq, President Bush has dedicated himself to exporting economic injustice.” Obviously it is far better to have universal squalor (except for the favored of the ruling elite) under oppressive despotism that allow some to achieve greater economic success than others in an environment of greater personal freedom. Again, judging from previous words and actions, I can’t help but belive that President Obama is espousing a support of this more conventional understanding of the phrase.
Which leads to an interesting question. If, as he said, the President believes “that a nation’s hostility towards … economic injustice cannot be allowed to thrive,” then how does that belief square against the capitalistic economic model of the very country he leads? Does this have anything to do with ihs pledge to fundamentally remake the country? Or, will we be encouraged by our “betters” to, once again, ignore the man behind the curtain and pay attention to the smoke and mirrors he presents instead?

@sarafina
You mentioned “open mindedness” in one of your posts, yet you cite nothing but leftwingnut sources for your “argument”. Some people’s minds are so open, their brains fall out.
As for this statement: “He is a pragmatic progressive, center-left. We are a centrist country founded on liberal and progressive ideals.”
Oh no he’s not. He’s an Alinsky “progressive”; putting the Rules for Radicals into practice. The majority of the country, in case you never noticed, is center RIGHT. This country was founded on individual rights and limiting government interference. You should read the Constitution sometime. Obama sure hasn’t.
As for the “haters”, count me in as one who hates THE ONE’S socialist agenda and anti-American proclivities.
His (and the Democrats’) words and deeds are all one needs as proof.
Have you paid attention?
There’s no conspiracy, save for the efforts of the nihilist-in-chief to “fundamentally transform America” into a socialist nightmare.

The O’Babble doctrine: Speak often and carry a wet noodle.

I will raise hell right along side my compatriots until my government returns to the principles outlined in the founding of this country.
Posted by: SFC MAC
so you’re pro slavery, anti women, and for restricting voting rights, fascinating

Between the Republican’s stalling games and Democrats who put corporations first, the people’s business is not getting done.”
Posted by: Serafina |
Most everyone recognizes the need for health care reform but leave it to the Democrats to craft a “reform” bill that is opposed by a 53-38 margin. It would seem that not only is the people’s business not getting done, it isn’t even on the table.
Meanwhile, it’s been 14 months since the culmination of the subprime meltdown and still no legislation from Congress.

I’m proud not to be one who voted for those idiots.
Posted by: Serafina |
You’ve made it more than clear which idiots you are proud of.

=== An overwhelming 79% believe the Senate Bill will add to the deficit even though the Congressional Budget Office has stated that it would actually shrink the deficit.===
Which bill would that be? They are still debating exactly what to put in the bill and the latest, middle age seniors buying into medicare, was just scored a budget buster, healthcare killer and overall a joke. I’m paraphrasing but not by much.

What you heard is an articulate president who defended America’s right to stand up for freedom and the oppressed. He faced everyone explaining why he sent men to war and backed off nothing. He made people realize the importance of the military and mentioned that thousands around the world are safe because of the efforts of the American military. Now for once realize that this is a man who cares. He issued warning to the Taliban and the Palistinian rebels and let them know that we are not backing down. To me, this was a great speech. He did not ask for this award, however, those who met him and have some intelligence, realize he is an asset to the United States and someone they want to work with in the future. Not the same feelings for Bush. He has brought back the respect we once had and for those who cannot see it….I say I am sorry for you…put your biasness away and realize what we have in this president. He did not cause this recession but he is handling it fine. Jobs are the only lacking part of it and he is attacking this problem head on. Too bad the banks aren’t.

from the AP…
A loophole in the Senate health care bill would let insurers place annual dollar limits on medical care for people struggling with costly illnesses such as cancer, prompting a rebuke from patient advocates.
The legislation that originally passed the Senate health committee last summer would have banned such limits, but a tweak to that provision weakened it in the bill now moving toward a Senate vote.
As currently written, the Senate Democratic health care bill would permit insurance companies to place annual limits on the dollar value of medical care, as long as those limits are not “unreasonable.” The bill does not define what level of limits would be allowable, delegating that task to administration officials.
Adding to the puzzle, the new language was quietly tucked away in a clause in the bill still captioned “No lifetime or annual limits.”

“We continue to work with experts on how best to accomplish our goals of preventing insurance companies from imposing arbitrary coverage limits while providing the premium relief American families need and deserve.”
Much better that the gov’t experts impose the arbitrary coverage limits, eh Harry? What an astounding hack the majority leader is.

The “Obama Doctrine” would appear to be a failure thus far…

I’m not exactly sure how to square the WH’s spin on the “Obama Doctrine” with Obama’s own words spoken in the last year. If he has indeed involved into this ‘doctrine’ they are pushing, I welcome it. I have learned with Obama, though, that his actions don’t always match his words.

===The realists certainly weren’t voting for the ticket with Palin on it, or the dude proclaiming the fundamentals of the economy were still strong :>)===
Well, yeah, actually we were. There were 2 choices in last year’s election. Hope and change. And reality. Take Obama this week acting as if his TARP vote didn’t happen, his Sec of Treasury wasn’t involved in it and his Fed Chairman, that he has renominated, wasn’t behind it. Nope. Only Bush. And only a couple of weeks ago Obama was telling us that TARP kept us from falling off a cliff. It is what happens when you merely read what is written instead of having a core value that prevents you from being a total ########### of contradictions.

“Take Obama this week acting as if his TARP vote didn’t happen, his Sec of Treasury wasn’t involved in it and his Fed Chairman, that he has renominated, wasn’t behind it. Nope. Only Bush.”
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I don’t think that is what Obama said. Obama said TARP was launched ‘under the last administration’ – that is factually true. I think he also said TARP was launched ‘hastily’ – and that probably is true in the sense there was an economic catastrophe happening and all urgency was needed. Can mistakes be made in that kind of situation – I would think they can. Did ALMOST everybody rush in to support TARP? Yes.

“President Obama’s speech is being hailed around the world as an inspirational triumph. American leadership is slowly regaining its stature. Bravo! ”
It was hailed by John Stewart as being a speech W could have given.

===his order of the closure of the detainee center at Guantanamo Bay===
Just don’t ask him about Bagram. Seriously. Don’t ask.

“the only change would be that prisoners would now be located on U.S. soil”
Posted by: tjp612 | Dec 11, 2009 4:44:43 PM
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Having the prisoners on U.S. soil makes a lot of difference.
And the approach is more than just moving the facility. It also has involved and will involve dealing with the prisoners legally – a big difference.

“Having the prisoners on U.S. soil makes a lot of difference. And the approach is more than just moving the facility. It also has involved and will involve dealing with the prisoners legally – a big difference.”
Please explain/elaborate…How will this move Iand dealing with prisoners “legally”) be better than current situation (outside of those Illinois residents who will receive jobs)?

New York city will bleed even more jobs to competitors in cities such as London
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Try to keep up with the news, the British government just announced it will impose a severe tax on bankers’ bonuses . ..

How will this move Iand dealing with prisoners “legally”)
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Not interested in giving you a full legal argument – but the main consideration is that the prisoners have been imprisoned for years with their cases never having been brought to any kind of recourse to trial.
If that was you, it would mean you were thrown in jail for years without ever having been brought to trial to defend yourself.

Posted by: Axey | Dec 11, 2009 5:36:06 PM
“THIS decade has been the warmest since records began, the Copenhagen climate summit heard yesterday.
“And 2009 is set to be the fifth hottest year ever.
“The figures – based on evidence from 5,000 weather stations worldwide – silenced climate change doubters and generated more urgency on the second day of the UN climate summit.”

“Sounds to me like they want to be sure and like they have to wait to the end of the year to be sure.”
If you want to be sure then shut up until you are sure.

“”The figures – based on evidence from 5,000 weather stations worldwide – silenced climate change doubters and generated more urgency on the second day of the UN climate summit.”
Would these be the weather stations worldwide located on asphalt and near air conditioners (which emit heat) or stations like the one in Darwin, Australia where data was tinkered with (they call it “homogenized”) to produce desired results?

“Try to keep up with the news. The Recovery and Reinvestment Plan gave tax relief to 95% of Americans including small business. Obama’s recent jobs initiative is proposing more tax relief for small businesses.”
tierra seems to believe the ARRA is a stunning success…If so, where are the 4 MILLION promised jobs? Particularly the 90% promised in the private sector…
The ARRA aka “stimulus” is an abject failure. This $787 billion could have paid wages of ~2 million Americans @ $40,000 per year for 10 years.
Instead, millions of jobs have been lost since passage and unemployment has increased to beyond 10% (“effective” unemployment at 15%+).
Great job, Barry!

Maybe you can share that wisdom with Michael Steele. Wouldn’t want to be hypocritical, right? LOL!! See Posted by: Helene | Dec 11, 2009 5:22:15 PM
Posted by: Cara A |
Mr. Steele, in the future please say that it is “very likely” that the planet is cooling.

“Sounds to me like they want to be sure and like they have to wait to the end of the year to be sure.”
If you want to be sure then shut up until you are sure.
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You’re just being argumentative – when you are 99% sure, you can go ahead and make that statement with the slight qualifier.

Would these be the weather stations worldwide located on asphalt and near air conditioners
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Is this the kind of astute thinking we can expect from Republicans from here on in?

===You’ll remember that one of the main reasons the national debt grew so much, and the financial stability of the country faltered so much under Bush was because he cut taxes and yet increased spending.===
So increase spending and increased taxes are the answer? You’ll figure it out when unemployment balloons and state and local taxes soar.

when you are 99% sure, you can go ahead and make that statement with the slight qualifier.
Posted by: tierra |
That’s absurd. It’s science not religion. I’m certain you know the difference.

That’s what allows the scientist to make the statement with a slight qualifier – the decade is 99% over and its VERY unlikely the figures will change.
This will be the hottest decade on record.
Posted by: tierra |
Saying that it is very unlikely the data will figures will change is nonsense. Why would the figures change at all? These are measurements not predictions.
Saying that this will be the hottest decade on record is a prediction by a faithful believer and most certainly NOT what the spokesperson stated.
With over 99% of the decade gone scientists can still not say with certainty whether or not this was the warmest decade on record. That is remarkable.
“I am a skeptic…Global warming has become a new religion.” – Nobel Prize Winner for
Physics, Ivar Giaever.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | Dec 11, 2009 11:48:25 PM
You seem very confused Foghorn . .. let me try to simplyify this for you.
You’ve heard of global warming right? Well, meteorologists are now stating the past 10 years constitute the warmest decade on record.
Deniers have been saying the earth cooled down in the last decade – the scientists are confirming the earth has continued to warm.

You’ve heard of global warming right? Well, meteorologists are now stating the past 10 years constitute the warmest decade on record.
Posted by: tierra |
Global warming or climate change?
You seem to have a problem with the word “likely”. Likely is greater than 50% and less than 100%. What that means is that scientists are NOT saying what you claim. I know you are a believer and you are ready for The Rapture but you are just going to have to wait a little bit longer.
“Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can
speak quite frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical…The main basis of the claim that
man’s release of greenhouse gases is the cause of the warming is based almost entirely
upon climate models. We all know the frailty of models concerning the air-surface
system.” – Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to
receive a PhD in meteorology, and formerly of NASA, who has authored more than 190
studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.”

Because the decade is not over yet? Therefore the figures WILL change (ie. still new figures to be reported this month, for instance) – so the scientists are erring on the side of caution and will only state it as ’99%’.
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You pulled 99% out of the air. No one has said there was a 99% certainty of anything. It’s hard to argue if you are just going to make stuff up.
I have no hope of explaining the difference between new figures and changed figures to you. Maybe the climategate emails would help clarify the difference but I am sure you dismiss them as ill-gotten heresy.
Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to
know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” – UN IPCC
Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical
chemist.

You pulled 99% out of the air.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | Dec 12, 2009 12:31:50 AM
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The decade is more than 99% over and he’s got “very likely”? How in blazes does this guy not know yet whether it is or isn’t the warmest decade on record?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | Dec 11, 2009 6:35:39 PM
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Actually, it’s your ’99%’ – the decade isn’t completely over.
I know it must be disappointing to you deniers to have yet another group of scientists counteract the deniers sermon – but the most recent decade got warmer, not colder.
Isn`t that what the deniers have been chanting for the past months – it`s actually gotten colder?
Deniers are sadly wrong again. The deniers lies get turned over all the time.

same kind of folks were denying that pesticides were adversely affecting the food chain and poisoning all of us during the period when Rachael Carlson’s book, Silent Spring was written.
same kind of folks said ‘agent orange’ was OK.
same kind of folks said ‘depleted uranium’ was safe for use in Iraq.
same kind of folks say there’s no proof of evolution.
same kind of folks said moon landing didn’t happen.
same kind of folks ignored a PDB saying Bin Laden would use airplanes as bombs.
same kind of folks said 911 was an ‘inside job’
same kind of folks said there were death panels, secret FEMA detention camps
same kind of folks say the flu vaccine is a government plot to control citizens.
and on………… and on

Actually, it’s your ’99%’
Posted by: tierra |
No, it’s not. And it’s kinda sad when you realize that anyone who wants to can look 6 inches down this page and see what you said.
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What are you talking about. I never brough up 99% until you mentioned it (see previous page of comments).
At any rate, the only important point is that scientists have revealed that the last decade has been the warmest on the planet on record.

The “Obama Doctrine” is and always
will be what it has been from
Day 1, Blah, Blah, Blah!
North Korea and Iran have responded to
this so-called Doctrine by
continuing their nuclear programs while
promising to continue talking
ad nauseum!
Russia has responded to this so-called
Doctrine by continuing to threaten its
neighbors and firing a missile
over Norway while the president was
accepting his peace prize.
Hugo Chavez continues to threaten
Colombia as he falsely accuses the
Colombian government of preparing to
invade Venezuela.
Yeah the Obama Doctrine is really
working. Not!

The decade is more than 99% over and he’s got “very likely”?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | Dec 11, 2009 6:35:39 PM