White House Forecasts Job Growth Next Year

How about adding some “career” jobs vs. “shovel ready” projects for gravel pushers? No offense, but this administration’s idea of a “job” is a grunt-work, short term project that does nothing but make people beholden to the government. How about scientists, engineers, technicians, entrepreneurs–do they benefit at all from this admin.? Of course not–this White House is hell bent on catering to the lowest skilled rung of society as a means of owning them. There’s no plan for excellence, nothing that rewards success–just “shovel ready” beast of burden toil–this is absurd-it’s a White House with zero knowledge of “business” and “commerce” – AMATEUR HOUR CONTINUES

And it’s all because of the bank stimulus money. Right!

How about adding some “career” jobs vs. “shovel ready” projects for gravel pushers? No offense, but this administration’s idea of a “job” is a grunt-work, short term project that does nothing but make people beholden to the government. How about scientists, engineers, technicians, entrepreneurs–do they benefit at all from this admin.?
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“Obama and congressional Democrats are also planning to spend billions of dollars upgrading the nation’s electrical grid. And they plan to expand broadband internet access and put medical records online.
“Those efforts would create jobs for software programmers, computer equipment makers, telecommunications technicians, engineers and other information technology professionals, says Robert Atkinson, president of the think tank Information Technology and Innovation Foundation.”

Just so the figures aren’t made up and we the people working see it. Right now it is in bad shape from my eyes daily. Applications are up with over 20 people for one job. Is hard. Don’t play politics with the truth. Honesty is the best policy always.

“Those efforts would create jobs for software programmers, computer equipment makers, telecommunications technicians, engineers and other information technology professionals, says Robert Atkinson, president of the think tank Information Technology and Innovation Foundation.”
Uh huh.
From Business Week (12/10/09):
“Even as job losses in the US mount, employers have stepped up the hiring of skilled workers from abroad, according to data from the US Citizenship & Immigration Services. The acceleration in recent weeks has put companies close to exhausting the 65,000 visas allotted each year for foreign hires under what’s known as the H-1B program. Some 61,500 visas had been used as of Dec. 8, and the last visas are likely to be claimed within weeks. Once that happens, companies won’t be able to use the program to bring in additional workers until October, the start of the government’s fiscal year.
“The numbers are surprising, considering the state of the economy,” says Ron Hira, associate professor of public policy at Rochester Institute of Technology. “With 15.4 million people unemployed in the U.S., employers should be able to find qualified workers here.” The H-1B program allows employers to sponsor skilled workers from overseas for up to three years, with the possibility of extending for additional years.”
So how’s that Hope and Change working for you?

“With 15.4 million people unemployed in the U.S., employers should be able to find qualified workers here.”
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You’re blaming employers not being able to find qualified workers on a President who’s been in office for less than a year?

The strategy of robbing Peter to pay Paul to string power lines and install broadband internet or scan medical records is central planning at its worse and won’t do squat for the long term espeially when the government borrows the money.
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Nonsense. It’s exactly the type of physical and data infrastructure work that governments undertake for the future – and commonly done during severe economic times to provide some immediate relief.

Posted by: Jenn | Dec 13, 2009 4:11:07 PM: “So how’s that Hope and Change working for you?”
Are you implying that the increase of foreign workers hired by US Corporations is somehow THIS President’s fault?
The use of H-1B visas has been growing for decades, propped up by both parties in Congress. For example, in 2005 more H-1B visas were issued than were authorized by Congress – due to an accounting “mistake”. That same year Congress had already added 20,000 more H-1B visas to the 65,000 already mandated !
But here’s some good news: In February 2009, as part of the stimulus bill signed into law by President Obama, banks and financial institutions were RESTRICTED from hiring foreign H-1B workers unless the jobs were first offered to qualified US workers.
So if this action indicates more government control over H-1B visas, then yes, “Hope and Change” are moving in the right direction for American workers.

Thank you Jake: In our corporate based capitalist economy, the economists are more clowns than priests. And 50% of our economy is based on “buying” psychology on one side, and on Wall Street’s buccaneer investors on the other side, who jump in, get whatever profit they can get, and get out with full pockets, while the rest of us try to survive with empty pockets! And Mr. Summers tell us “be patient, your turn is coming,” and other such anesthetic promises of the White house lore. But
the fact is, our economy is still on a “Wild West” mode, with a lot of hit-and-run measures that don’t seem to work, and at the same time it is milked to the last drop by the two war-hogs of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Worse yet, Obama has decided to fatten the Afghan hog, and that means he has opened a galactic black hole in Central Asia that will siphon billions from our domestic economy for years to come. It won’t, therefore, be easy for the economy to recover when we siphon billions from it domestically, and drop them half way around the planet – not to mention that we still owe the Chinese $ 700 billions in our bonds on top of our huge deficit. Then, there is a large percentage of Americans who have lost their homes, have exhausted their savings, probably are in debt to relatives and friends to survive, and they are unemployed. Those people don’t buy anything more than food, and the economy won’t improve easily when a sizable part of the population is stuck at the subsistence level.
Lawrence Summers, therefore, is pandering to the suffering Americans, and practically clowning up for his boss, Baraq Obama. Americans who really want their situation to improve economically had better start planning the ditching of Obama on 2012. The reason? We have had enough of clowning, and it is time to start looking for a priest in the next election. The only alternative is to sit idle, rot, and tighten our belts through 2016, while hundreds of thousands of military contractors become instant millionaires in Afghanistan. Can the average Americans keep their sanity intact until then? Nikos Retsos, retired professor

Why do you think unemployment has doubled since Obama took office?
Posted by: auntydemocrat2010 | Dec 13, 2009 5:06:40 PM
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Is it possible it had to do with the massive world-wide economic collapse that took place while George Bush was President?
Oh, I suppose not . . . foolish me.

Obama is responsible he voted for H1B visas for foreign works. The fact that Americans are unqualified is a lie. They are aloowed to leave their job if they want, H1Bs are not. I work with all h1Bs and the Americans are smarter better educated, communitae better and work as hard, they just can leave theri job if they want. Washington wants to control the employment market for their political donors
Washingtons assult on Scientists, Engineers, Nurses, Doctors and caregivers continues for union based political interest groups. At least when bush spend 2 trillion jobs were created, but with Obama we are digging the hole deep and attacking the science portion of the economy in favor of the public sector.
Obama is going to be a one term president. I knew another lawyer was going to be unqualified in this technology advanced world.

Obama is responsible he voted for H1B visas for foreign works. The fact that Americans are unqualified is a lie. They are aloowed to leave their job if they want, H1Bs are not. I work with all h1Bs and the Americans are smarter better educated, communitae better and work as hard, they just can leave theri job if they want. Washington wants to control the employment market for their political donors
Washingtons assult on Scientists, Engineers, Nurses, Doctors and caregivers continues for union based political interest groups. At least when bush spend 2 trillion jobs were created, but with Obama we are digging the hole deep and attacking the science portion of the economy in favor of the public sector.
Obama is going to be a one term president. I knew another lawyer was going to be unqualified in this technology advanced world.

Yeah, Romer was the same genius who said the $787B stimulus would cap unemployment at 8%.
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Read the Romer/Bernstein report where the 8% was lifted from – it tells you specifically the figures are not meant to be used as specific future predictions. Nor are those figures to be relied on as accurate projections.
That report was prepared before the Recovery and Reinvestment Plan was even finalized.
This is a lie repeated by the right wing. Tiresome to have to keep correcting, but wouldn’t be necessary if the right wing wasn’t so eager to duplicate phony right wing blog information to smear the Democrats.

Posted by: Bob | Dec 13, 2009 5:53:03 PM posted, “At least when bush spend 2 trillion jobs were created, but with Obama we are digging the hole deep and attacking the science portion of the economy in favor of the public sector.”
Bob, you are misinformed. Just do a search – the Bush administration created about 3 million jobs (net) over its 8 years, a fraction of the 23 million jobs created under President Bill Clinton’s administration.

What a bunch of bull. Where are the 3 million jobs we were supposed to get with the stimulus? Where are the 600,000 we were supposed to get last summer? Now they are throwing another bone at the people. “We have new jobs by next year”
Talk is cheap.

Bob, you are misinformed. Just do a search – the Bush administration created about 3 million jobs (net) over its 8 years, a fraction of the 23 million jobs created under President Bill Clinton’s administration.
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CenterOne, where is Bob ‘misinformed’? He said President Bush created jobs. You agreed. Bob didn’t state a figure, but you did, you said President Bush created jobs.
And what the heck has President Clinton’s job creation performance got to do with President Obama’s job creation performance?

CW | Dec 13, 2009 6:10:21 PM posted “Where are the 3 Million jobs we were supposed to get with the stimulus?”
Well CW, my state is predicted by Moody’s to be one of the first to emerge from the recession with new jobs. What are the slackers doing in your state?

Yea, but will those jobs be available for American workers. I believe O-baaaa-ma already promised the to India’s Prime Minister when he visited.
Washinton DC may have to be renamed “Northern New Dehli”

malcat | Dec 13, 2009 6:33:04 PM posted “I have to wonder: how much tax concessions did your state government give away to get those new jobs?”
My state didn’t “give away tax concessions”. Read my previous posts malcat – there are viable solutions for growing good family wage jobs using State and Federal stimulus money, but each state has to make its own way – blaming weak job growth on President Obama is simplistic.
Every state has the opportunity to create a stronger economy via training and work programs for new clean energy. Green energy is labor-intensive – it requires employing engineers, scientists, skilled machinists, electricians, pipe fitters, and laborers.

Green energy is nothing more than a hoax. You don’t recreate a whole energy industry on the backs of taxpayers, that is absolutely unproven yet. And what IS proven, like oil, you tax and regulate and impose environmental hell on it. We have become a nation of brainwashed idiots. Simple common sense tells you that this is only a cloak of socialism. You can’t rightly come out and say you are going to make the United States a socialist country, but you can come out and use the ruse of environmentalism to disguise it. Because people have been brainwashed into thinking they are going to ‘save the planet.’ What a joke. A volcanic eruption can produce more than mankind in centuries. Give me a break. Like I said, common sense. No private industry can afford to create ‘green jobs’ in an unproven industry. Nor would they want too! It’s called profit! The engine for the economy! If you don’t have it, then it doesn’t go!
I understand that Obama doesn’t believe in free markets though. That’s obvious. That is also why it is so clear he wants the system of capitalism to fail. Capitalism does not fail. It is FORCED to fail. Exactly what he’s doing.

Then let’s see how long this one lasts…
Harry S Truman: “The buck stops here”.
Google “Truman The buck never stops here”
Barak H Obama: “The buck will never stop here, ever”

Public Policy Polling:
“Perhaps the greatest measure of Obama’s declining support is that just 50% of voters now say they prefer having him as President to George W. Bush, with 44% saying they’d rather have his predecessor.
Given the horrendous approval ratings Bush showed during his final term that’s somewhat of a surprise and an indication that voters are increasingly placing the blame on Obama for the country’s difficulties instead of giving him space because of the tough situation he inherited.
The closeness in the Obama/Bush numbers also has implications for the 2010 elections.”

“Catch up or get left behind?”
We’ve already been left behind by China. China has outproduced us a hundredfold. Meanwhile Main street USA still hasn’t seen improvement. If you want to go after anybody for their lack of “greenness” go after China, not the US. Meanwhile we need to pick ourselves up off the ground and get producing again without quibbling and wringing our wrists over “lack of greenness”.
Radical environmentalism with its institutionalized bureaucratic red tape is what brought our nation to its knees. Will we place survival over a radical environmentalist ideology?
Our economy needs serious resuscitation, not false strokes of “you’re okay America, we’ll continue to expand our radical environmentalist march that killed you, but you’ll come back, I really really really promise this time will be different”.
Get real and drop the radical environmentalist cause that strangled us. America functions clean without more radical agenda pushing our economy to the brink.

Note that the “green” economy has been followed to some extent by Europe since the oil shortages of the 1970s. Since the early 1980′s, the core E.U. nations, which have 317M people to our 305M, have not increased their oil imports. They have quotas each nation must reach for the percentage of electricity produced by non-fossil fuels. France is approaching 80%.
Meanwhile, the European industries have become lean and mean while being much greener than us, despite higher tax rates than American companies (in any given year 2/3 of the Fortune 500 companies pay NO income tax at all). They’ve raised their GDP from 62% of ours to 815 within a generation and, in 2007, six of their nations had higher average incomes than the USA. And they’re eating our economic lunch, buying up Lehman Bros, Chrysler, Genentec, etc.
So all this whining about how going green is going to destroy our economy and economic country is a bunch of that other green stuff – snot!

CenterOne……What State are you from?

obama = – 19%

Hey We’ll Never Go Back to the GOP -blah blah blah – the only place the economy is recovering is in Obama’s Washington DC. The Feds hired thousands while Main St has been losing millions of jobs. Main Streets average salary? Around $40,000 a year – Federal Salries? Around 70,000 a year. You can keep those sucky Democrate gangsters you jerk

Main Streets average salary? Around $40,000 a year – Federal Salries? Around 70,000 a year.
doeslovetoread | Dec 13, 2009 8:58:41 PM
Ah, nothing like quoting statistics you know nothing about. Are you comparing the federal payroll (excluding the Post Office and Military of course), almost exclusively white collar jobs, with “Main Street,” which includes all the outsourced cafeteria workers, migrant harvest workers, high school job burger flippers, etc? I certainly think there needs to be some trimming, salaries increased at an unusual pace under the Republican administration (as did all federal spending), but comparing average earning for radically different jobs (there are no 18 year olds flipping burgers on the payroll – that was all outsourced years ago by Republican privatization efforts) is utterly meaningless noise.
Compare the pay for equivalent jobs and you will have meaningful information (when I was looking for a job 10 years ago there was no contest – the government paid engineers far worse than the private sector).

So if the jobs don’t start to turn positive by the Spring is it safe to say that Summers will step down?
Let’s give him until summer just to be sure – call it June 30th.
We’ll even let him cheat: he can hire as many government jobs as he print money to hire.
But, let’s revisit this in May and see how this is going and if he misses then the world will have one more unemployment economist.

Wait! We have to get the “Plausible deniability” handled before this race for jobs by spring begins.
1. The Administration has had plenty of opportunity to assess the full extent of the condition of the economy.
2. The Administration has had plenty of opportunity to assess the scope of their economic policies – including, but not limited to The Stimulus Bill and the Budget.
3. The Administration has anticipated every possible scenario that could affect the economy including the war in Afghanistan and potential terrorist attacks on the US – and their plan is resilient enough to withstand even the worse case.
4. The Administration is prepared to stand steady to their course in spite of public opinion and poll numbers. They can whine all they want that the polls are wrong, yada yada yada but they hold steady to their position that they have their arms around this and jobs will turn positive.
5. If we happen to hit some major economic disaster on the order of the famed “double dipping” before the Spring deadline then they throw in the towel and game is over. At that point it will be clear to everyone – including their spin machine – that the program launched by the Obama Administration to save us from the brink of disaster is a scam.
5. Bush is off the table as an excuse – we are done with the Bush ear and onto the Obama era. The President and his Administration stops blaming Bush.
7. It is permissible to cheat by creating make believe jobs with the government but it is not OK to cheat by making up districts, precincts, false numbers or new statistical measures – we have to use the same old, same old and they have to be authentic.
8. None of us forget what Summers says and we hold him to his word – he represents the President of the United States and this is the big time.
9. The final thing has to do with spin: we set up the rule in advance that there is no such thing as a jobless recovery. GDP may be fired up but this is about jobs.
The point is that this Administration likes to say things and when they don’t happen they like to send out the brand (this is President Obama) and say things like “we didn’t know the full extent….” and “we couldn’t have expected ….” which is why what we said turned out to not be true. Its all humble and from the heart and all of that and he sells it well but we have all seen this “Plausible deniability” all before and the scam is over. Gitmo, Iran, Afghanistan are all examples of this tendency.
I would like to challenge Jake Trapper and other members of the press to put it on their calender to monitor this claim and the results. That is why y’all are paid the big bucks – we buy into ABC and the other broadcasters to do this job. We need you to do it – we need you to provide that check to the system, it is what y’all do. And no soft selling, Jake – real, in your face, “this is what you said would happen and these are the results.” Hold this Administration accountable for its words and its forecasts – the romance is over, this is business.

After making that last post it occurred to me that there is a whole range of authenticity issues that need to be determined as well. I guess we will have to cross that bridge when we get to it – but if the numbers are sandbagged so the Administration can take a Victory lap and it unravels a month or two later then we’ll all know. More we all hope that Jake & Company ramp up their call for accountability after the celebration as if it never even happened.
The point is as much as the viewing public has learned to turn to FOX for accountability it is time for the rest of the press to step up. I like Jake Trapper. I think he is a stand up guy and, though from a liberal perspective I think he is trying to get it right. I like a bunch of his colleagues – at ABC and elsewhere – as well. I just think that it is time for the mainstream press to get back to doing what we hire them to do. As controversial as FOX is they are still trying to get it right. They lean right, you bet – but they at least try to get as many perspectives as possible so the viewer has a chance to see and think about the options.
I am just hoping this challenge of accountability is heard by guys like Jake Trapper & company. I am rooting for y’all in a real way. I just want you to hold steady to the job of being objective and diligent in providing real accountability to our politicians.

No one mentions that 125,000 new VISAS are issued to foreign workers to work in the the U.S. each month. No one mentions that the Obama has reduced work place enforcement of immigration in general and deportation in particular.
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Could we have a quote, source and date for your information please.
Unsubstantiated accusations aren’t worth the bytes of cyberland they’re typed with.

Could you please date and code and inform us of your data TIERRA of your Chinese counterparts that are participating in their government’s green control.
Posted by: clint | Dec 14, 2009 12:39:55 AM
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I don’t think you’re at all sincere about your research clint, or you would already have found information about China.
However, just for a start (your first baby steps) try “China finds there is money in the green economy” NRC December 10, 2009.
Brush up on research skills clint – there is a lot to learn. Coupled with with a bit of intellectual honesty and integrity, you’ll soon be able to make judgments of value, rather than judgments of bias.

Removing tax breaks or even increasing tax burden for companies moving jobs out of the US will rapidly make the practice less profitable. And that is the only language these companies understand.
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Sounds reasonable to me malcat – also taxing companies that base themselves ‘offshore’ in order to avoid paying taxes. Eliminate this loophole.

Sounds reasonable to me malcat – also taxing companies that base themselves ‘offshore’ in order to avoid paying taxes. Eliminate this loophole.
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Good catch, Tierra. Definitely should be done. I’m sick and tired of businesses that have benefited from this country turning their backs when the US needs them most.
I’ve already given up a couple of my favorite things just for that reason. I email the companies once a month reminding them of the money they are NOT getting from me.
I like to close with the following: “I’m someone that takes the time to tell you. How many customers have you lost that don’t tell you?”
My pittance probably doesn’t hurt them, but I nag them anyway. After all, there may be many others like me doing the same thing?

The State of New York demonstrates the brilliant outcome of liberal tax-and-spend policies… Somebody tell Governor Paterson that the RECESSION IS OVER!
From the NY Daily News:
“Gov. Paterson called it a “day of reckoning.”
Lawmakers slammed it as just bad theater.
Paterson on Sunday announced plans – first reported in Sunday’s Daily News – to shortchange the state’s cities and schools 10% of the $1.9 billion in state payments due Tuesday.
New York City will lose at least $84million in funding under Paterson’s plan to withhold payments to keep the state afloat this month.
“I can’t say this enough: The state has run out of money. We are $1 billion short,” he said.
For the city that means its school aid payment will be about $60 million short and its municipal assistance payment $23.9 million lower than expected, Paterson’s budget office said.
The city is expected to lose more money at the end of the month when Paterson will withhold nearly 19% of the remaining $3 billion in scheduled payments statewide for a school property tax relief program and human services reimbursements to counties.”

“Punishing companies will lead to fewer jobs.”
On the other hand nobody has yet explained how rewarding companies for shipping jobs overseas creates any more jobs here.