Bush: ‘Ought To Be No Politicization’ on Haiti
In my This Week interview with the former Presidents, I asked President Bush about the concerns of prominent conservatives like Rush Limbaugh who say that the U.S. has done so much for Haiti already and that throwing more money at the impoverished country isn’t going to solve the problem because it is a corrupt government and the money never goes to the right people. Though I didn’t mention Limbaugh by name, Mr. Bush said flatly , “We’ve got to deal with the desperation, and there ought to be no politicization of that.”
He added that a stable Haiti is in the strategic interest of the U.S. “The question — fundamental question for the country is do we care beyond the…earthquake, do we care? And the answer is I think we should, and I think we ought to care from a humanitarian perspective and I also think from a strategic perspective because it makes sense to have a stable democracy in our neighborhood."
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Good idea if Bush would just stay lost, somewhere.
Posted by: stan | January 17, 2010, 9:14 am 9:14 am
Did I hear Bill Klinton say, “I’ve spent many enjoyable nights in those Haiti Hotels.”
Does he have to constantly remind us of his sexual prowess?
Posted by: Luke | January 17, 2010, 9:24 am 9:24 am
if bush is lost, maybe he will find jimmy carter
Posted by: tom | January 17, 2010, 9:28 am 9:28 am
Nothing more needs to be said than what has been said in this article. Perhaps Obama can clean up the corruption like he is doing in Afghanistan. Or at least organize the corruption to compatible with his own.
Posted by: TX_MBell | January 17, 2010, 9:29 am 9:29 am
The comments here are sad–and go to the heart of what the former president is saying. This is about helping people in desperate need, not about scoring political points.
There is a time for politics and a time for human decency–and the involvement of Mr. Bush and Mr. Clinton is noble and shows the best of both men.
Posted by: jim | January 17, 2010, 9:33 am 9:33 am
One of the GOP leaders, Limbaugh, uses Haiti as a ratings increase. Ugly, just ugly.
Posted by: newz4i | January 17, 2010, 9:58 am 9:58 am
To Tom:
If we are discussing the island of Haiti/Dominican Republic, then it is RUSH LIMBUAGH that uses it for his sexual playground. Just last year he was busted leaving the DR with a bottle of viagra (non-prescribed, in typical drug addict fashion.)
Posted by: dave | January 17, 2010, 10:05 am 10:05 am
Sorry – the comment on Rush’s sexual escapades was meant for Luke.
Posted by: Dave | January 17, 2010, 10:07 am 10:07 am
GW is CORRECT regardless of what people say here. They need the help; it is our responsibility to help where we can.
May God help us help them….
Posted by: Gregg | January 17, 2010, 10:08 am 10:08 am
Stan, that was a rude thing to say…but we’d expect no less from an Obama minion.
Posted by: bo | January 17, 2010, 10:19 am 10:19 am
Nonsense . . . these wormy politicians will politicize everything and anything. Remember, these politicos are people without moral compasses.
Posted by: rplat | January 17, 2010, 10:22 am 10:22 am
Only Democrats politicize disasters.
Posted by: drjohn | January 17, 2010, 10:37 am 10:37 am
What is Clinton doing with the Criminal Bush? Oh, I guess the Carlyle group can make money off of this disaster.
They must be seeing reconstruction dollars for Haliburton and KBR.
Bush should be in jail, not on TV.
Posted by: Christine | January 17, 2010, 10:41 am 10:41 am
Well said President Bush.
Posted by: Cw | January 17, 2010, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Let’s face it. A politician can do NOTHING publicly without it being construde as “being done for political reason only” by someone. You can only hope they are following their conscience and doing what they feel is right. Of coarse, unless you know them intimately, we will never really know.
Posted by: Floydster | January 17, 2010, 10:43 am 10:43 am
I find it nothing short of ironic that GWB has to wait until he’s out of political office before he starts making any measure of sense (even if he is still using words that are bigger than he is). I’m guessing he hit his head or something…
Despite being a complete idiot, Bush is 100% right on this. Politicians have no sense of morality or compassion, and will only seek to use anything they do in Haiti as political poker chips. They need to stay out of it and let the American people do what they do. We’ve never needed any political assistance or approval to do the right thing in the past.
Posted by: Hosfac | January 17, 2010, 10:47 am 10:47 am
Regardless of what you may think about Bush, he’s right here. The obvious point of having Dubya and Clinton coordinate things is the same as when Dubya has his father and Clinton do the same in the past: it’s a demonstration that anyone’s support for helping these people is not going to be used to promote one party or the other.
Jerks like Limbaugh will use it to try to keep stoking the hatred he needs to generate in order to stay on the air, but the fact is, as Bush said, that desperate people need help and those that help need public support from those who can help.
Posted by: The_Mick | January 17, 2010, 10:53 am 10:53 am
I find it amusing how if you support Obama you’re a minion, or a “kool aid drinker” or blinding following, but yet if you supported Bush you were a Patriot and a true American.
Posted by: DC | January 17, 2010, 10:54 am 10:54 am
On one hand, I tend to agree with Bush on the “no politicization” remark.
On the other hand, I’d rather throw up than watch him so I’ll take a pass today’s show.
Posted by: jan | January 17, 2010, 10:56 am 10:56 am
I actually think it’s a break from the normal crap.
Posted by: LongT | January 17, 2010, 11:02 am 11:02 am
Hell has definitely frozen over: twice in one day I have nodded my head in agreement with something said by GW Bush. The other was when, at yesterday’s joint press conference he said, “A lot of you want to send blankets and water. Just send your cash.”
Posted by: justsane | January 17, 2010, 11:21 am 11:21 am
I think the money would be better spent on our OWN homeless. We should take care of our own country before we try to take care of others.
Posted by: Don Messer | January 17, 2010, 11:24 am 11:24 am
Jan, I felt the same way about Clinton but I’ve grown up. These former Presidents are doing a terrific thing in working together to help the Haitian people. Obviously these two men are acting like grown ups. It would be nice if the American people could find the same maturity and stop with the childish finger pointing and name calling.
We all want a better country, lets work together to make it that way.
Posted by: wow | January 17, 2010, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Yes, we need to help Haiti NOW. It is the right thing and moral thing to do. But, after things are stable, which may take many months (Not years), we need to teach them to fish, not just give them fish. If they choose not to learn, we can’t be their mother and father.
Posted by: Joe | January 17, 2010, 11:41 am 11:41 am
How odd that I just watched the Aristede DVD, where the U.S. twice funded the overthrow of democratically elected J. Aristede (who was elected by 73% margin). TWICE! Now, Dubya wants to feel compassion? What happened to the last 8 years??
Posted by: HaitianAmerican | January 17, 2010, 11:42 am 11:42 am
TOTALLY OFFBASE JAKEY- unfortunately, most obama zombies will buy your story. conservatives dont deny the need for aid to Haiti. what they object to is ,ironically, BO politicizing the situation for personal gain (its all about him of course). why did BO have to ask citizens to contribute to the WH webstie? this is unprecedented- Americans, being the most generous people on earth (ironically studies show conservatives are MORE generous than libs, look at what joe biden gave over the last 10 yrs to charity), have always heeded the call for help, usually thru direct donations to aid organizations, NOT the fed govt. let the govt (mis)handle any more of our money? no thanks.
Posted by: realman1963 | January 17, 2010, 11:48 am 11:48 am
Bush is an Idiot. Let’s build Haiti back up on the backs of America’s already struggling economy. I have no problem with helping them out but if your asking to rebuild their country, all I can say is move over Iraq. We can’t even secure all these other counties we’ve invaded.
Haiti has no jails and the prison collapsed. So since half the country is a crime zone perhaps the US shouldn’t over extend it’s forces?
All our politicians are out of touch with reality and putting Bush in charge of anything is like a slap in the face to the American people. What about our homeless, what about rebuilding our slums and taking care of the 911 rescue workers and our needy. Politicians can talk as much as they want about rebuilding Haiti but that’s just another fiasco waiting to happen. When will people realize we got more money going out than we have coming in?
Posted by: louie | January 17, 2010, 11:54 am 11:54 am
If Bush can get the the Bushies to unload their wallets for a good cause, why not. Don’t expect a change in the standing in history. Iraq war was still a mistake and WMDs were Ws blunder. No more politicization.
Posted by: gjkotw01 | January 17, 2010, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
I think both of the presidents look better as former presidents. They both display a wisdom that is missing in Obama. Hopefully, when Obama is replaced in 2012, he too will be able to reflect wisely on his misplaced priorities in efforts to push through an unethical and flawed health care overhaul, to repay unions, and other self-serving agenda matters.
He should have been working on the economy, jobs, and listening to the American taxpayers, not ignoring those who had elected him because he promised transparency in government.
Again, hopefully we’ll give someone else an opportunity to fulfill campaign promises in 2012; this administration has been a failure.
Posted by: PC | January 17, 2010, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
“What is Clinton doing with the Criminal Bush?”
That is possibly the most humorously ironic statement I’ve ever seen. Funny how nobody remembers the fact that he and his wife managed to get off scott free during the Whitewater scandal while every other business partner involved in the deal went to jail. And let’s not forget the blatant purjury he committed during the Monica Lewinski witch-hunt.
We couldn’t have had a bigger criminal than Clinton in the white house. Maybe if John Gotti ran, we could…
Posted by: Hosfac | January 17, 2010, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
How has President Obama politicized this at all? Because he spoke about it. If you think that go crawl back in your hole. President Bush asked for aid after the Indonesia tsunami was that politicizing a natural disaster. I’m tired of you moron Limbuagh supporters. If you keep drinking his kool-aid of hate you’ll turn into the next Timothy McVeigh because he would love to have that happen to another Democratic president.
Posted by: Come On | January 17, 2010, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
The real question is why Jake politicized this? It seems he was looking to spark a politicized comment from Bush. The brevity of this article shows that he didn’t get what he wanted but still wanted to spark something here. Having seen in my youth some troublemaker deliberately rub two cats together to make them fight reminds be of this article. Bush didn’t fall for it but we are.
Posted by: TX_MBell | January 17, 2010, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Amazing that Mr. Tapper asks a question about the Limbaugh comments and so many of you jump on the bandwagon to defend Obama. Bush wasn’t saying he thinks Obama is making a political issue of it, he was responding to a question.
As was already said, Obama is doing the same thing Bush did in asking his father and Clinton to get together in a relief effort so it didn’t look like a political grandstand to promote one party or the other. Let him and Clinton go out and do what they can to help Haiti and quit grinding your axes for a change.
Posted by: Julie Weathers | January 17, 2010, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
In our history, America has benefited and in many cases saved virtually every country on the globe. When does it end ?
Posted by: Ron | January 17, 2010, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
It’s great to see two former President’s sitting together on a common cause. Why can’t our political system work like that? Instead we have Pelosi and her goons hell bent on ramming legislation through with no input from the other side.
Posted by: Jim | January 17, 2010, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
n my This Week interview with the former Presidents, I asked President Bush about the concerns of prominent conservatives like Rush Limbaugh who say that the U.S. has done so much for Haiti already and that throwing more money at the impoverished country isn’t going to solve the problem because it is a corrupt government and the money never goes to the right people. Though I didn’t mention Limbaugh by name, Mr. Bush said flatly , “We’ve got to deal with the desperation, and there ought to be no politicization of that.”
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Although I respect Bush’s current efforts to help Haiti, I would have vastly more respect for him if he were to disown Limbaugh by name.
Posted by: Bob Ramos | January 17, 2010, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Couple points: Haiti needs massive and immediate aid and relief. The American people and the military will get it done as they always do. We don’t need to be told or reminded by any politician, whether ex or currently sitting. Long term reconstruction is a totally different issue and we better think that one through a little more carefully. We’re broke. We’re bankrupt. We’re out of money. It looks like Haiti took the previous billions the American people gave them and built palaces and golf courses with it and left their people in abject poverty and squalor. I don’t think we want to do that again and what existing programs are we going to cut to pay for it??
Am I the only one who separates what Limbaugh says from what an elected official says?? It’s two completely different things folks. I hold an elected official to a totally different and much higher standard. They are elected to keep the public trust.
As for politicization of Haiti, everything a politician says or does is for political purposes, whether veiled or overt. Clinton just within the last day, while stumping for Coakley said a vote for Coakley is a vote for Haiti. Like if you vote for Brown, Brown will let them starve and die?? That’s politicization if you ask me. Bush was crucified for Katrina and he blundered biggest when he complimented Brownie for doing a good job. What most people have conveniently forgotten is who was initially responsible for the security and evacuation of New Orleans? How about Nagin and Blanco? They failed miserably.
God bless our military for once again taking care of a nasty job and getting it done when governments have failed their people.
Posted by: billbrady | January 17, 2010, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
n my This Week interview with the former Presidents, I asked President Bush about the concerns of prominent conservatives like Rush Limbaugh who say that the U.S. has done so much for Haiti already and that throwing more money at the impoverished country isn’t going to solve the problem because it is a corrupt government and the money never goes to the right people. Though I didn’t mention Limbaugh by name, Mr. Bush said flatly , “We’ve got to deal with the desperation, and there ought to be no politicization of that.”
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Although I respect Bush’s current efforts to help Haiti, I would have vastly more respect for him if he were to disown Limbaugh by name
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If Tapper didn’t’ even mention Limbaugh’s name, why on earth would you expect Pres. Bush to “disown” him by name? Pres. Bush gave the appropriate answer – you just want him to slam Limbaugh because you don’t like him. Tough. Tapper referenced a remark by a “prominent conservative” and Bush’s response was that this doesn’t have anything to do with being conservative, i.e. political, and he wasn’t going to engage in a political discussion.
Just FYI, there are many people talking about making sure that the UN and Haiti don’t waste what is donated to them. Haiti has a long and very ugly history of that, as does the UN. As a matter of fact, both Clinton and Bush said in their first press conference that they wanted to assure the American people that their job would be to make sure that the people’s money is spent wisely.
Posted by: akw | January 17, 2010, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
In our history, America has benefited and in many cases saved virtually every country on the globe. When does it end ?
Posted by: Ron | Jan 17, 2010 12:50:15 PM
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We are the most wealthy, free and blessed nation on earth. I’m embarrassed when my fellow Americans even ask the question you asked.
Posted by: akw | January 17, 2010, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
“We are the most wealthy, free and blessed nation on earth. I’m embarrassed when my fellow Americans even ask the question you asked.”
We were once the most wealthy, free, and blessed nation on earth. But now we are the most indebted, PC-constrained, and theistically ambivalent nation on earth. I think that the question wass a valid one – where does it end? At what point should the world stop looking at the US as a rich yet thoroughly despised uncle that must bail them out when things go wrong in their world, rather than understand that its citizens should be allowed to provide what assistance they can voluntarily?
Posted by: Publius | January 17, 2010, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
What many of the posters here don’t seem to understand, and what Tapper omitted in his effort to gin up a non-story, is that Bush and Clinton are in charge of PRIVATE fund raising and organizing to help stabilize and rebuild Haiti. It has nothing to do with the official US government help. Our state department, our ambassador and a US General are in charge of those efforts. Clinton and Bush are not going to be spending government money. They are going to use their global contacts and their political power to raise billions in DONATIONS to help Haiti. If you can’t or don’t want to donate, fine.
As for our government’s help, this country always has money in its budget for humanitarian aid, including disasters like this. We have the best military in the world, and we are the wealthiest and most blessed nation on earth. We help people in times of crisis. It’s what we do – it’s who we are.
Posted by: akw | January 17, 2010, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
“As for our government’s help, this country always has money in its budget for humanitarian aid, including disasters like this.”
I have not problems attempting to raise private donations, or selling bonds to the American people to raise money for an unforeseen eventuality. But budgeted humanitarian aid is money that is funded and earmarked for distribution. To my knowledge it doesn’t have a pre-funded category marked “Unexpected disasters” for each country that goes back into the Treasury if nothing happens. The $100M going out to Haiti is either taken from some other category, considered part of the money already designated for distribution to Haiti, or fabricated like an overdraft on a checking account and borrowed from China or some other foreign creditor. My guess it is the last if our government will “always have money” for humanitarian aid.
Posted by: Publius | January 17, 2010, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
It’s great to see President Bush work with others. Shame on anyone who excuses. These people are suffering and have nothing. How horrific. It could have been us. I agree that evry penny should be accounted for and used to rebuild Haiti. With almost 80 million people retiring in next several years, this country will need people to pay taxes to cover the immense gap we’ll experince. Helping Haiti could also benefit us in the future when we will need many to care for our elderly. If almost 80 million will retire, that leaves another 200 million americans to foot the bill and people need to start thining about the future. Out of the 200 million almost half won’t be of working age, and how can a million people do all that will be needed. Just think about it. In the future we will need outsiders to help us, not just in paying taxes, but to care for the elderly.
Posted by: Lynn | January 17, 2010, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
president bush, thank you for speaking up.
Posted by: e-wench | January 17, 2010, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
So far any money sent to Bush would create more jobs for US people to interpret what is needed where instead of sending water, food and shelter and clothing directly to where it is needed.
Posted by: MODSIM | January 17, 2010, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
This is goodness…let it stand at that. I don’t see a lot of the idiot dictators (Chavez) getting involved very much…although I’m sure the media will be all over their statements on where the United States ‘failed’ in the search/rescue/rebuilding process. That’s the joke of it. The US is always the first to help out, and the first to be condemned…and we all give the condemnation actual credence.
Posted by: Bill | January 17, 2010, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Re: “I don’t see a lot of the idiot dictators (Chavez) getting involved very much…”
That’s because cable TV doesn’t show it. It’s not because they aren’t involved. Do you really think American TV is going to show Venezuela or Cuba, or any Latin American country in a positive light? Get a clue.
Posted by: terry | January 17, 2010, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Re: “These people are suffering and have nothing. How horrific. It could have been us.”
It WILL be us if we don’t start investing here, in education and infrustructure projects. When it comes to foreign countries we are told to spend, but when it comes to our own country they tell us to cut, cut, cut.
Posted by: Bubbles | January 17, 2010, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Bush seems to thrive on crises just as the vultures thrive on the dead. 911 was Bush’s opportunity to divert American resources to war in Afghanistan and Iraq. He comes out of his hiding like a sly opportunist as soon as the earth quake in Haiti took place to extort “cash”. Yes that is all he said don’t send what they need just send “cash”. If telling he truth and talking against phony people shedding crocodile tears is politicization then so be it. I for one will not send a single penny in the direction of the Bush Foundation and have sent an email to the Clinton Foundation that none of my contribution to it should be sent to the Bush Foundation. I cannot and will not forget the Bush blunders and give him an opportunity for redemption. His role in the Haiti disaster does not change history or his place in it.
Posted by: gjkotw01 | January 17, 2010, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
And I am even glad that clinton got involved to help. It certainly will go a long way in improving his legacy.
Posted by: jonny | January 17, 2010, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Do you notice how they are saying that Wyclef Jean’s charity cannot be trusted, but they want us to donate money to Bush?! Give me a break.
Posted by: Bubbles | January 17, 2010, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Who taught W. the word “politalization”. It had too be Laura. He’s simply not smart enough to have come up with it on his own!
Posted by: lou k. | January 17, 2010, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
It does not matter “who” or “what” failed in the past, it is “who” or “what” succeeds in the future. Get your heads out of your butt, and move forward.
Posted by: God hear my prayer | January 17, 2010, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
I agree with Rush Limbaugh. We keep dumping money in these countries that never change their culture of dependence on someone else. It is similar to our own welfare system relying on government from cradle to grave. We should not spend a dime on reconstruction in Haiti. That country is sitting on a fault line and will collapse when the next earthquake happens. If other countries want to rebuild Haiti let them waste money.
Posted by: watchdoggie | January 17, 2010, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
ez dc… bush did what was best for the country..bo has an alternative agenda, he has done NOTHING to improve the lives of ALL Americans (only those groups that supported him, unions, teachers, construction workers, stimulus $$ going predominately to dem dominated areas). nothing for the 50% of America that support the rest of you the unappreciated american taxpayer. it any wonder most of us are are REPUBLICANS?? the truth is quite literally black and whiet for you to see, if you would only open your jaded partisan eyes.
Posted by: realman1963 | January 17, 2010, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
so all you better than everyone else libs are spewing the usual bush hatred at this time of crisis in Haiti?? way to be mature, come together and focus on taking care of these unfortunates. you guys are all blithering hypocrites!! thanks for the entertainment, whattabunchamaroons.
Posted by: realman1963 | January 17, 2010, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
How refreshing to see Bush and Clinton working together. Give it up people on the Bush bashing. Get past the bandwagon of the past and we truly see a dedicated individual of former office that deserves our respect to these great 50 states as he has served with our best interests. For once, can a liberal be a realist?
Posted by: n/a | January 17, 2010, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
I wasn’t a Bush fan at all but good on him for this. Limbaugh is a disgraceful jackass.
Posted by: NovShmozKaPop | January 17, 2010, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Look…history is history and truth is truth. Like it or not the facts are that Bush is a traitor to America not by one failure but by many. Bin Laden…Bush did NOT get him. Failure. Irag…HA.. the joke was on our poor soldiers that are now dead in their graves and mutilated in hospitals..and then there’s KATRINA…. Bush is a traitor. He stole our rights, killed innocents and left my nation in a shambles. Do NOT talk to me about how you think Bush was a good officer. He was a traitor and a failure. It is STILL my right to say this and probaly the ONLY reason I still have that right is because Bush could only have two terms in office. Period and THANK GOD!
Thems the facts jack….deal with it!
Period!
Posted by: PamAla | January 17, 2010, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Thems the facts jack….deal with it!
Period!
———hatefully ranted by PamAla
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“Thems” may be the ‘facts’ in your hate-filled mind, but President GW Bush was and is not a traitor.
Traitor is an actual legal term which does not match anything President Bush did despite his many mistakes.
Deal with with that.
Posted by: malcat | January 17, 2010, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Limbaugh is a disgraceful jackass.
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True and valid words. Such an idiot! I actually went to his website hoping to fire off a scathing email, but surprise!, no such capability. Maybe if I joined his club or whatever, but that is NOT going to happen.
Almost poured bleach into my monitor to remove any contaminants!!
Posted by: malcat | January 17, 2010, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
PamAla – Bush made very bad decisions with respect to Iraq and Afghanistan. They were costly to this country and especially to its military. (I don’t believe that Bin Laden would be that easily found once he escaped into Pakistan.) That being said, I think President Bush is not “a traitor”. I think the decisions he made were poorly thought out and their consequences are evident. I believe Cheney is more culpable for his lies and manipulative acts at the CIA.
Bush made this possible but it strikes me that this was a volatile combination of ideology and stupidity rather than a traitorous criminal act .
Posted by: 63tango | January 17, 2010, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
so all you better than everyone else libs are spewing the usual bush hatred at this time of crisis in Haiti?? way to be mature, come together and focus on taking care of these unfortunates. you guys are all blithering hypocrites!! thanks for the entertainment, whattabunchamaroons.
Posted by: realman1963
++++++++++++English please…
Posted by: Chuck S. | January 17, 2010, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
I completely understand that facing the truth hurts. I get it. And it must be even moreso for those that voted for him the first time much less the second. You share Bush’s blame. The facts are Bush is a traitor. If you need the sugar coat the truth with pretty words in order to make it easier to swallow….have at it. That to is your right. Romanticize it and pretend. Bush is 100% responsible for so many dead in our own country and abroad.
But those are still the facts and you can read them any way you want to.
Frankly Scarlett………………
Peace
Posted by: PamAla | January 17, 2010, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
That country is sitting on a fault line and will collapse when the next earthquake happens. If other countries want to rebuild Haiti let them waste money.
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Watchdoggie,
Do you think the entire coastline and much of the interior of California should be evacuated and abandoned? They haven’t cleared away and rebuilt from that last significant quake. Who knows when the next really BIG one hits the entire Pacific coastline! Let’s just force everyone on the entire Pacific coastline to relocate to Utah or Arizona.
Do you think the entire American coastline from Texas to Florida should be evacuated and abandoned? Look how many times hurricanes have devastated large portions of that area. Why don’t we force all of American citizens living on the Gulf of Mexico to move 2-3 hundred miles to the north?
Stop and think of all the times we Americans have helped different parts of the US to recover from major disasters. Can’t you spare a little compassion for non-Americans who are suffering so hidiously?
Posted by: malcat | January 17, 2010, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Oh and one more thing….as for Cheney being culpable….of course he is BUT the buck stops at the DECIDERS desk. Bush was too dumb and lazy to check things out. Mostly too dumb. He’s a dry drunk that is a traitor to America.
He left thousands to langish and suffer during Katrina and denied that he knew how bad it was with the levees. What a liar Bush is.
But then again why anyone expected any more than the chaos we got when a dry drunk was elected as president.
You cannot see my emotion nor my mind when I write these truths so you really should refrain from try to assign any to my words.
I keep telling you….Facts are facts.
The hard fast anger I had about him has turned to slight disgust for those that still try to make him into a man.
He was a disgrace to our nation and he is a traitor. It is shameful and horribly sad for me to have to write those words, but they are truth, agree or not.
Posted by: PamAla | January 17, 2010, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Lots of moonbats here. The party of hate. Go dems, just pretend you care about Haiti. It;s obvious you don’t
Posted by: jonny | January 17, 2010, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
When will the blame game stop? Obama has been president for a year. He has done nothing for the American people.
Posted by: Cw | January 17, 2010, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Good for Bush. I am not a fan of his, either. Isn’t it interesting how former Presidents tend to lose the partisan rhetoric once they leave office? A positive thing, but also distressing when we consider the contrast between that and what occurs while IN office…so much emphasis on party and hype and division. I respect Bush for his statement, and that’s saying a lot coming from me! BTW, what’s with the “dry drunk” nonsence PamAla? Your AA is showing…the myth of the “dry drunk”, otherwise known as someone who QUIT drinking due to problems with it and is now SOBER. No such thing as a “dry drunk”, only a former drunk who isn’t any more. An AA marketing tool to keep people addicted to their “help” for life…never really cured, only awaiting the next relapse. BS.
Posted by: raven | January 17, 2010, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
I thought it was great that all three presidents who did not agree, some even blamed others for past issues, came together during a devasting time such as this for others.
To see them (Obama, Bush and Clinton) together, forgetting the politics and seeming to care about others was phenomenal; especially knowing how the campaign for both Bush and Hilary and …you know what I am speaking of.
All the men were born in August, too. Of course that does not make a difference. (smile)
I agree that the blame game needs to stop. WE ALL KNOW we inherited alot from 8 years of another president. OK already…JUST DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO HELP AMERICANS!!!
I like Obama, but enough already. I gotta say he is trying. He cannot do it alone. I think he did not realize what he was getting himself into.
I think he is trying so hard to keep promises that he does not wonder how it will affect us in the long run, but just to try his best not to lie to the people. SO much has changed, yet so much has stayed the same.
Posted by: power4l1 | January 17, 2010, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Oh yeah, I may just send my contributing through the American Red Cross. YOu are right,gjkotw01, I caught that comment,too.I am talking about what BUSH said about “just send cash”. Smile and have a great day!
Posted by: power4l1 | January 17, 2010, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Posted by: power4l1 | Jan 17, 2010 7:41:53 PM >> I agree that the blame game needs to stop. WE ALL KNOW we inherited alot from 8 years of another president. OK already…JUST DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO HELP AMERICANS!!!
I like Obama, but enough already. I gotta say he is trying. He cannot do it alone. I think he did not realize what he was getting himself into.
I think he is trying so hard to keep promises that he does not wonder how it will affect us in the long run, but just to try his best not to lie to the people. << ………… power4l1, well said, I completely agree.
Posted by: Robert | January 17, 2010, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
PamAla, I was definitely not a Bush fan but I do think he was trying his best to do right as he saw it. Reasonable minds can and should disagree, that’s what makes America great. Bush was not a traitor under any definition of that word. When all you do is spew hate nobody listens to you. Get a clue. Peace All
Posted by: Robert | January 17, 2010, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Does anyone but me think Rush Limbaugh is the white Al Sharpton? He is always rushing in to pass judgement on others without ever offering any postive ideas of his own, just arm-chair criticism. Peace All
Posted by: Robert | January 17, 2010, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Does anyone but me think Rush Limbaugh is the white Al Sharpton? He is always rushing in to pass judgement on others without ever offering any postive ideas of his own, just arm-chair criticism.
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Robert, I try to ignore Limbaugh as much as possible. I loathe all these talking-head celebrities who think they speak for everyone.
But I have to agree with you here. I think you have described him and Sharpton quite accurately indeed.
Posted by: malcat | January 17, 2010, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
I’ve missed and respected Mr. & Mrs GW Bush. Thank you for your efforts for protecting of American safely from the Terrorists for seven years.
Posted by: Jamie | January 17, 2010, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
The dirty secret that the liberal networks and cable news shows dont talk about is that Obamas response to this tragedyt has been a failure and a disgrace. Much worse than Katrina but a democratic president can get away with it.
Posted by: THE TRUTH | January 17, 2010, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Bush is a class act-despite the constant blame from Obama and his disciples,he puts simple decency above politics.The media has never publicized the good work in Africa of the Bush administration;Nobody here seems to remember the awesome display of American generosity and competence after the Indonesia tsunami.
Posted by: Nephron | January 17, 2010, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
You’re doing a heck of a job Bomi!!!
Posted by: owl | January 17, 2010, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
This entire post site seems to be about bashing everyone. Why not just say…”It’s a terrible tragedy beyond comprehension” and have all people from all countries unite to help these people. The real tragedy is that this happens every day, though not on this level…People starve, people are homeless, people are murdered, children are orphaned and the list goes on…It’a a damn shame that it takes something like this to have the media show it so that the governments can be highlighted with their compassion. People soon forget that it’s not the governments…but the PEOPLE who elect those governments that make the difference…Let’s come together PEOPLE
Posted by: Mike | January 17, 2010, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Rush Limbaugh did NOT tell people to not contribute to Haitian relief. Go back and read the transcript of his show. He is being taken out of context. He said that we should contribute directly to private charities, like the Red Cross. He said the US Government already collects tax dollars for relief efforts. The best way to get funds directly to people in need is through private charities.
Posted by: John | January 17, 2010, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
Bush delt with what he was dealed. Did he think that we would be attacked? I doubt it. Its time to try to think about what a president has to deal with. Like Nazi Germany, or Imperial Japan of WWII, there was no talking to them. They had to be completely defeated. As a former enlisted man of the Navy, and a son currently serving in the USN, I don’t like war, but I would have given my life so that we can continue to bash the politicians we choose to hate. That is all.
Posted by: Locutusofborg | January 17, 2010, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
I can’t believe what I am reading here. So much hatred is always coming from the liberal side…and always stating ‘facts’ that of course are not facts at all. Read up on the true history of the last eight years. I can’t stand when uneducated people write ridiculous comments. Their hatred gets in the way of the truth. Bush was a really good presdient, not great…In eight years he kept us safe, reacted appropriately to the nuts who try to take away our freedoms. His heart and soul were always in the right place. His biggest problem was trying to appease the dems and started spending like crazy…becoming fiscally liberal. Now Obama is in office and it makes Bush look like a penny pincher!! And we’re back to not feeling safe again. We need a true conservative to get us all back on track!
Posted by: Cathy | January 17, 2010, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
PamAla, I was definitely not a Bush fan but I do think he was trying his best to do right as he saw it. Reasonable minds can and should disagree, that’s what makes America great. Bush was not a traitor under any definition of that word. When all you do is spew hate nobody listens to you. Get a clue. Peace All
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Thank you Robert! Robert=sanity and gives me hope.
Posted by: wow | January 17, 2010, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
I find it very interesting how everyone believes that this is the first time in history that a current president (this one isn’t even American) and former presidents have come together for a cause. Read up on your history people. This has been going on for years. Reagan did it, George W Bush did it, and not the messiah has followed. This was a horrific event, and we need to forget the politics for a moment, and help the innocent individuals that were hit by this devastation. There will always be time for listening to the messiah spew more false statements. Did you notice anything by my posting? I sounded like a democrat that gets their digs in, and yet denies that they did so. Help the Haiti people, and move on towards a better world.
Posted by: Shermani | January 17, 2010, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Who finally decided to make the CEO’s pay back the American Tax payer’s money? Who finally put limits to the Credit Card industry to place limits on their abuse to the American people? Who finally helped appoint the first Hispanic-American female to the U.S. Supreme Court? Who is not wasting time in the relief for Haiti by sending the U.S. military carriers for support? Obama has done quite a bit for his first year in office. The only things he has not been able to complete yet is due to Congress.
Posted by: JoeG | January 17, 2010, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Bush delt with what he was dealed. Did he think that we would be attacked?
Posted by: Locutusofborg
dude, Bush was handed a security doc saying that we would be attacked
Posted by: PO'd | January 18, 2010, 1:33 am 1:33 am
His biggest problem was trying to appease the dems and started spending like crazy…becoming fiscally liberal.
Posted by: Cathy
Bush & the republicans were concerned about the
democratic minorty ????? the Dems forced the republicans to spend?
this would be funny if it wasn’t so sad
Posted by: Oh Yeah | January 18, 2010, 1:39 am 1:39 am
Robert,
Your 8:50 PM post proves that it is possible for people to disagree without being disagreeable. I wish more were capable of it. Thanks.
Posted by: oonogil | January 18, 2010, 1:52 am 1:52 am
It’s nice to see Bush and Clinton together. We donated to their foundation to help Haiti. I don’t agree with everything these two men did, but at least they didn’t try to tear apart America as Obama is doing. He says “typical white woman” and “typical republican” and calls police officers “stupid”. Who wouldn’t be offended by words like that? He is the worst leader this country has ever had.
Posted by: TM | January 18, 2010, 2:09 am 2:09 am
“I like Obama, but enough already. I gotta say he is trying. He cannot do it alone.”
He has a majority in both Houses of Congress! That he can’t walk anything through Congress speaks to either how badly he is leading or how badly the Democrats as a whole lead. That’s just plain simple truth. The Democratic Party is the “Do Nothing” Party. They can spend money on useless, stupid waste but work together for the good of the country? If you can’t vote Republican, believe me, I understand, vote one of the Independent Parties. In fact, everyone vote Independent, the two party system is dead.
Posted by: tim | January 18, 2010, 2:56 am 2:56 am
TM – You can’t be serious…Obama is the worst leader we’ve ever had? Though there have been a number of less than ideal presidents, let’s just go back one as an example. W got us into two wars (Iraq should not have happened and the focus there made us drop the ball in Afghanistan), inherited a somewhat balanced budget but led us into the Great Recession, pi$$ed on the Constitution (in numerous ways), and alienated most of our allies (newsflash, it does matter what other countries think of us in a global economy). Though far from perfect, Obama’s not remotely the worst leader we’ve had…
Posted by: Lee | January 18, 2010, 3:10 am 3:10 am
Tim – Plenty of Dems are frustrated with what their party is doing right now (e.g. – this health plan they are sending to Obama is NOT the health plan he asked for). But to your point on spending, the Dems don’t hold the market on that one – look at all the spending the Republicans did under W. They weren’t trying to appease the Dems (as an earlier poster laughably claimed) they were taking care of their own special interests (like ALL politicians). Back to the point of this story though – EVERYONE should donate to help Haiti, just be sure it is through an established charity so you know your money will go there to help.
Posted by: Lee | January 18, 2010, 3:20 am 3:20 am
It is “the people” of a country, that make the country great and honorable.
Posted by: God hear my prayer | January 18, 2010, 3:39 am 3:39 am
As Americans, we should be looking out for our own kind first. There are plenty of people struggling here in the US thanks to Obama. Who does he think he is giving our hard-earned money to Haiti? I feel bad for them, but they were already in a bad situation before the earthquake. We need a President who will put America first. Bush was ok, but is clearly more interested in his legacy now. Rush is the only one who will speak the truth.
Posted by: Mike | January 18, 2010, 5:20 am 5:20 am
what did those poor Haitians do to deserve george bush?
Posted by: herbert juarez | January 18, 2010, 5:41 am 5:41 am
For once, W. is right. If he had taken care of problems close to home when he was in office, rather than inventing problems far away, we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in.
Posted by: James Fox | January 18, 2010, 6:20 am 6:20 am
Again the man shows class, seeing how long it’s taking to get water and food to those who are in real need he could have taken a shot or two. I only hope those who crapped about Katrina now see these things take time and in the case of Katrina they had to wait for the water to recede.
Posted by: hkdakota | January 18, 2010, 6:38 am 6:38 am
I hope folks realize that this situation will get worse before it get better. Katrina is proof of that. American’s must realize that a natural disaster of this magnitude does not get fixed overnight. Unless you have been there during the event you can’t imagine the task at hand. I was on the ground in new orleans and no other federal government could have done it better. I hope folks now know that the local government of new orleans did everything they could to mess things up during Katrina.
Posted by: james | January 18, 2010, 7:16 am 7:16 am
It is nice that these two Presidents can hide their heads in the sand, the reality of Haiti is that this disaster could have been less damaging had the millions of dollars Haiti has received been spent on infrastructure and self determination. For decades Haiti has relied on aid to fund their economy, this is the government’s fault, and the US is aiding dictators who are corrupt. When aid is doled out to Haiti -it must not go in the hands of the government which to this day is corrupt. Money should be spent to grow food, build solid infrastructure-not into the hands of the crooks who are responsible for the impact of this disaster by robbing the people of a government they deserve. Politics is very much a part of re-building Haiti and in the right hands it will thrive, not survive to beg for more aid. There is no democracy in this country that remains a dictatorship.
Posted by: P.Neisman | January 18, 2010, 10:19 am 10:19 am
It is ALWAYS good to see Republicans and Democrats working together for a common goal. But then you have Rush Limbaugh…who is NEVER satisfied with harmony and good works,namely because he is such an arrogant rabble-rouser he feels angry when he can’t be the center of attention.When the DR.s in Hawaii hospitalized him for heart trouble,the Xrays showed that,like the Grinch, his heart is,at least two-sizes too small..
Posted by: The Reminder | January 18, 2010, 11:24 am 11:24 am
True, we should not politicize the tragedy in Haiti, but it’s impossible to look at a picture of Clinton and Bush sitting together and not remember how each made their own impact on Haiti.
Clinton was an Aristide backer. He put the full force of an American embargo on a the already suffering Haitian people and allowed Aristide to live a good life in America following the coup, while denying it to the thousands of Aristide supporters who also sought political refugee status.
Under Bush, Aristide did not have a friend in the White House during the second coup, forcing Aristide to find an alternative country to live in following the coup. Bush did not aid Aristide in returning to the presidency like Clinton did, which resulted in a new election and a new president.
Now that there is another US president, and Aristide has said he wants to return to Haiti (to complete his term), it will be interesting to see how Obama handles it.
Of course we should not politicize the earthquake, but we shouldn’t forget that power plays in Washington have very real consequences on the ground in Haiti.
Posted by: Sak Pasé | January 18, 2010, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
We needs the best and the brightest. Bush may be a decent man. I think it’s pretty obvious based on the results , that he is neither. You gave them 8 years to put us in this mess. How about giving our current President 2 years to straighten out this mess. And we have a moral obligation to help Haiti. If you still believe we went into Iraq to set the people free from an oppressive dictator than you should have no hesitation to help people dig out from an Earthquake.
Posted by: William | January 18, 2010, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
When a Republican tries to help these countries, it’s “imperialism”.
When a Democrat does, it’s “compassion”.
In both cases it’s the American taxpayer that foots the bill…and those countries are still screwed up anyway.
Don’t hear the Dems going on about how we should be spending all those billions “over here” to help OUR poor and needy.
Also, disasters like this show that the U.N. is both impotent and superfluous. It’s always the U.S. that has to handle everything.
Posted by: RR GOP | January 18, 2010, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
Citibank owned the Haitian Treasury & central bank 1910-1947.
You’d think Haiti would be loaded. After all, it made a lot of people rich…
The story begins in 1910, when a U.S. State Department-National City Bank of New York (now called Citibank) consortium bought the Banque National d’Haïti–Haiti’s only commercial bank and its national treasury–in effect transferring Haiti’s debts to the Americans.(1)
Five years later, President Woodrow Wilson ordered troops to occupy the country in order to keep tabs on “our” investment.
From 1915 to 1934, the U.S. Marines imposed harsh military occupation, murdered Haitians patriots and diverted 40 percent of Haiti’s gross domestic product to U.S. bankers.(2) Haitians were banned from government jobs. Ambitious Haitians were shunted into the puppet military, setting the stage for a half-century of U.S.-backed military dictatorship.
The U.S. kept control of Haiti’s finances until 1947…
national city men, & today the gates & the rockefeller foundations = “closely linked”.
Posted by: sandy374 | February 5, 2010, 2:56 am 2:56 am
In 1825 Haiti was forced to borrow 24 million francs from private French banks to begin paying off the crippling indemnity debt (from their revolution). Haiti only acknowledged this debt in exchange for French recognition of her independence, a principle that would continue to characterize Haiti’s international relationships.
These indemnity payments caused continual financial emergencies and political upheavals…
Nevertheless, Haiti always made the indemnity payments – and, following those, the bank loan payments – on time. The 1915 intervention by the Marines on behalf of U.S. financial interests changed all of that, however.
The prelude to the 1915 U.S. intervention began in 1910 when the National Bank of Haiti, founded in 1881 with French capital and entrusted from the start with the administration of the Haitian treasury, disappeared. It was replaced by the financial institution known as the National Bank of the Republic of Haiti.
Part of the capital of the new national bank was subscribed by the National City Bank of New York, signaling, for the first time, U.S. interest in the financial affairs of Haiti.
Posted by: sandy374 | February 5, 2010, 3:03 am 3:03 am