Chairman and Ranking Republican of Senate Homeland Security Committee: Does Everyone In Obama Administration Know We’re At War?
EmailThe chairman and ranking Republican of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee today urged the Obama administration to transfer the Christmas Day bomber into military custody, and harged that though President Obama “has said repeatedly that we are at war, it does not appear to us that the President's words are reflected in the actions of some in the Executive branch, including some at the Department of Justice, responsible for fighting that war.”
In a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder and the president’s top homeland security adviser, John Brennan, Sens. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., and Susan Collins, R-Me., urged for the immediate transfer of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab into Pentagon hands to be “held as an unprivileged enemy belligerent (UEB) and questioned and charged accordingly.”
The two senators noted that once Abdulmutallab “was in custody, federal law enforcement officials on the ground in Detroit read the terrorist his Miranda rights. According to press reports, by the time the Miranda rights were read and Abdulmutallab went silent, he had been questioned for just under an hour, during which time he had been speaking openly about the attack” as well as the role of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.
They took issue with the “decision to treat Abdulmutallab as a criminal rather than a UEB almost certainly prevented the military and the intelligence community from obtaining information that would have been critical to learning more about how our enemy operates and to preventing future attacks against our homeland and Americans and our allies throughout the world.”
Matthew Miller, director of the Office of Public Affairs, said that since September 11, 2001, “every terrorism suspect apprehended in the United States by either the Bush administration or the Obama administration has been initially arrested, held or charged under federal criminal law. Al Qaeda terrorists such as Richard Reid, Zacarias Moussaoui and others have all been prosecuted in federal court, and the arrest and charging of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was handled no differently.”
Miller said that those “who now argue that a different action should have been taken in this case were notably silent when dozens of terrorists were successfully prosecuted in federal court by the previous administration.”
Lieberman and Collins expressed surprise to learn in a hearing last week titled “Intelligence Reform: The Lessons and Implications of the Christmas Day Attack” that the Justice Department apparently didn’t discuss with Pentagon or intelligence leaders as to whether Abdulmutallab should be treated as a criminal, rather than a UEV, and read Miranda rights. “The Administration can reverse this error, at least to some degree, by immediately transferring Abdulmutallab to the Department of Defense,” they wrote.
Miller said that the interrogation yielded intelligence, only after which was Abdulmuttallab read Miranda rights. “Trying Abdulmutallab in federal court does not prevent us from obtaining additional intelligence from him,” Miller said. “He has already provided intelligence, and we will continue to work to gather intelligence from him, as the Department has done repeatedly in past cases.” He said that Abdulmuttallab would not necessarily divulge additional intelligence were he held according to the laws of war or referred for prosecution in a military commission.
The Justice Department statement from Miller was issued last week, though he referred a reporter to it today saying it addresses nearly every point in Lieberman’s and Collins’ letter.
“It will always be a top priority in these cases to obtain intelligence that can be used in the fight against Al Qaeda around the world,” it concludes. “We will be pragmatic, not ideological, in that fight, and we will let results, not rhetoric, guide our actions.”
- jpt
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I’d like to hear from Eric Holder. I know what the job of a Public Affairs director is, but in this matter I think we need to hear what one or more of the Justice Department top officials have to say.
Posted by: Max | January 25, 2010, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Martha Coakley, the Massachusetts Attorney General, his senior adviser? And you call him ignorant?
Posted by: Jennifer Wylie | January 25, 2010, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
“has said repeatedly that we are at war, it does not appear to us that the President’s words are reflected in the actions of some in the Executive branch, including some at the Department of Justice, responsible for fighting that war.”
No, Senator, we are not at war. The Constitution is VERY clear about who declares war, and until there is a declaration of war I see no reason to compromise and sacrifice the civilian justice system that has safeguarded our liberty for two centuries. I know you need a bumper sticker, but find something else to grandstand on.
Posted by: jhw539 | January 25, 2010, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
I used to support President Barack Obama, I really did,
Obamacrat for Palin | Jan 25, 2010 4:08:08 PM
When, specifically?
Posted by: jhw539 | January 25, 2010, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
They know there is a war.. they fight the Republicans every day.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | January 25, 2010, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Obamacrat for Palin
“Barack Obama is ignorant and proud of it! Did you hear what his senior adviser Martha Coakley said about the Taliban in Afghanistan? “They’re gone. They’re not there anymore.”
Martha Coakley, the Massachusetts Attorney General, his senior adviser? And you call him ignorant?
Posted by: Jennifer Wylie | January 25, 2010, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Haha…stop grandstanding and Do some FREAKING Work for my tax payer backed salary….Then maybe we could just Turn ALL of them over to the Pentagon…including the ones that are in the Federal Courts that your party sent there. What’d you say Lieberman, Collins and the rest of you Morons?
I’m REALLY Sure the President Knows we are at WAR…He just committed 30,000 more troops to Afganistan….He’s taken Out more Terrorist than the previous administration, your party. STOP PLAYING POLITICS WITH OUR SECURITY, AND TELL US WHY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION DIDN’T KILL BIN LADEN, OR PAY FOR THE WARS THEY CREATED BEFORE LEAVING OFFICE?
Posted by: sara | January 25, 2010, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
“No, Senator, we are not at war.”
What is it if not war? And why does the left keep complaining that Bush started two wars if they’re not wars??
Posted by: Sigmonde | January 25, 2010, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
I’m REALLY Sure the President Knows we are at WAR…He just committed 30,000 more troops to Afganistan….He’s taken Out more Terrorist than the previous administration, your party. STOP PLAYING POLITICS WITH OUR SECURITY, AND TELL US WHY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION DIDN’T KILL BIN LADEN, OR PAY FOR THE WARS THEY CREATED BEFORE LEAVING OFFICE?
Posted by: sara | Jan 25, 2010 4:50:45 PM
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Has the Republican party done anything else but play politics since the Democrats took office? Country first. It’s always Republicans first.
Posted by: tierra | January 25, 2010, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
We haven’t been in a Constitutionally declared and authorized war since WWII. In Korea we were involved in a UN “Police Action”. In Vietnam we were involved in the “Vietnam Conflict”. Then ever since Vietnam we’ve been involved in a plethora of “peacekeeping missions”, “military interventions”, etc. None of these “engagements” were authorized as declared wars by the Constitution by the Congress as required by the Constitution. All were initiated by the Executive and funded by the Congress who is too cowardly to declare a war and live with the consequences.
Posted by: Chris | January 25, 2010, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
—It has been a month since Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab nearly killed 289 people on Flight 253. In the weeks since the Christmas Day attack, we’ve learned some very disturbing things about the Obama administration and terrorism.
We learned that the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, Michael Leiter, whose agency is responsible for pulling together pieces of intelligence to prevent attacks, went on vacation the day after the attack. We learned that the top White House counterterrorism adviser, John Brennan, told him to go. We learned that the White House’s initial view of the botched attack — from Janet Napolitano and Robert Gibbs — was that “the system worked.” We learned that President Obama still believed the attempted bombing was the work of “an isolated extremist” three days after the attack, despite a wealth of evidence that Abdulmutallab had been sent by al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP). We learned that Brennan was surprised that AQAP was capable of attacking the United States. We learned that Napolitano was surprised by al Qaeda’s “determination” to hit the U.S. and stunned that they would send an individual — not a group — to conduct an attack. We learned that four top U.S. counterterrorism officials — Leiter, Napolitano, FBI Director Robert Mueller and Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair — were not consulted about whether to treat Abdulmutallab as an enemy combatant or a criminal. We learned that a proposed “high-value detainee interrogation unit,” or HIG, does not exist one year into the Obama administration. We learned that Blair, the nation’s top intelligence official, thought that it did. We learned that Abdulmutallab was read his Miranda rights less than twelve hours after he was captured. We learned that the FBI interrogated Abdulmutallab for just 50 minutes before he was told he had the right to remain silent and chose to exercise it.
That’s an impressive record of incompetence. White House spokesman Robert Gibbs made it worse on Sunday.–(Weekly Standard)
Posted by: Ich Bin Ein Beginner | January 25, 2010, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Too Little sez: “We need to replace the liberals in Congress. They are destroying America.”
If you were to change that to “we need to replace Congress. They are destroying America”, I could agree with you. This isn’t a Dem vs Rep issue. All of our elected officials have been selling this country down the road for their own benefit for the last 50 years. They are owned, lock, stock, and barrel, buy multi-national corporations and do what the corps pay them to do. Once they get too old to wipe their own butts they pop their parachutes and hit the speaker circuit at $50 grand a pop and enjoy their taxpayer-sponsored medical and retirement plans (that they deny their constituents). Our only hope is in outlawing any kind of lobbying and term limits.
Posted by: Chris | January 25, 2010, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
President Obama still believed the attempted bombing was the work of “an isolated extremist” three days after the attack
Posted by: Ich Bin Ein Beginner | Jan 25, 2010 5:19:03 PM
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Nonsense, you discredit your entire post with this kind of tripe.
Directly from Obama’s remarks on December 28.
“We do not yet have all the answers about this latest attempt, but those who would slaughter innocent men, women and children must know that the United States will more — do more than simply strengthen our defenses. We will continue to use every element of our national power to disrupt, to dismantle and defeat the violent extremists who threaten us, whether they are from Afghanistan or Pakistan, Yemen or Somalia, or anywhere where they are plotting attacks against the U.S. homeland.”
Posted by: tierra | January 25, 2010, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
Screching halt.
… and harged that though President Obama “has said repeatedly that we are at war…”
“harged?” To harrass and argue perhaps?
Posted by: sic happens | January 25, 2010, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Obama seems to know we’re at war more than republicans don’t seem to understand they lost and don’t call the shots. Hey, ABC? Why don’t you see if you can do some more anti-Obama articles to appease those accusing you of always leaning left. By all means, lean far right.
Posted by: secondlook | January 25, 2010, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
“Did you hear what his senior adviser Martha Coakley said about the Taliban in Afghanistan? “They’re gone. They’re not there anymore.”……. Hey, did you hear that Fox lied about this? That she never said that?
Posted by: secondlook | January 25, 2010, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
It seems to me that the republicans forget we are at war by not backing the president when it somes to his decisions on war and other things. Bush got us into an unnecessary and expensive war with nothing to show for it…no democracy- nothing. No criticism here on anyone’s part. What the heck is wrong with everyone? When we are at war….we stick together and stand by our president not pick him apart. This is unamerican and it will be returned if the republicans ever get in power again. Their theory is to say things often enough even if they are not true and people start to believe it.
Posted by: talmag | January 25, 2010, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
To Obamacrat for Palin….get real…if anyone is stupid it is she.
Posted by: talmag | January 25, 2010, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
TELL THE GOP TO QUIT DERAILING OUR COUNTRY. It is the GOP & FAUX News that is doing everything in their power to pit everyone against everyone. Our country will fail divided. We must stand together or fail apart.
Posted by: Michelle | January 25, 2010, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Actually Coakley said the “terrorists” are gone from Afganistan.
Posted by: LongT | January 25, 2010, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Good question. Does Obama know that the GOP is at war with him and the Dems and is steadfastly committed to the country failing?
Posted by: hopesprings52 | January 25, 2010, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
tierra, I suggest rather than the cherry picking you normally do to cover up for Obama, that you put out ALL of the comments he made after the thwarted attack on Christmas day. The following is also taken from the “speech” he made (and you posted your part of) 3 days after the incident at a military base in Hawaii. Here’s the part you didn’t feel necessary to post:
Finally, the American people should remain vigilant, but also be confident. Those plotting against us seek not only to undermine our security, but also the open society and the values that we cherish as Americans. This incident, like several that have preceded it, demonstrates that an alert and courageous citizenry are far more resilient than an isolated extremist.
Notice the last bit… looks like he did say “isolated extremist” after all.
Posted by: Shoe | January 25, 2010, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Notice the last bit… looks like he did say “isolated extremist” after all.
Posted by: Shoe | Jan 25, 2010 7:05:55 PM
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Pretending that was all he said, or that was the point he was making (like the Republican poster) is the bogus cherry picking. And VERY dishonest.
This is what Obama had to say about what we face . . .
“We do not yet have all the answers about this latest attempt, but those who would slaughter innocent men, women and children must know that the United States will more — do more than simply strengthen our defenses. We will continue to use every element of our national power to disrupt, to dismantle and defeat the violent extremists who threaten us, whether they are from Afghanistan or Pakistan, Yemen or Somalia, or anywhere where they are plotting attacks against the U.S. homeland.”
Posted by: tierra | January 25, 2010, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Pretending that was all he said, or that was the point he was making (like the Republican poster) is the bogus cherry picking. And VERY dishonest.
Posted by: tierra | Jan 25, 2010 7:17:19 PM
HAH! If that isn’t the pot calling the kettle black!
Posted by: For The Record | January 25, 2010, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Does Everyone In Obama Administration Know We’re At War?
Correction: Does ANYONE In Obama Administration Know We’re At War?
Posted by: For The Record | January 25, 2010, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Actions speak louder than words.Obama didn’t even nominate a head of TSA until 8 months into his term; when he finally did he picked a man who violated civil liberties in a personal attempt to dig up dirt on his wife’s boyfriend. He then lied about the specifics to Congress.How can he be serious about national security by chosing such an individual? When Somali pirates were holding an American ship captain hostage,why did Obama refuse to give the order to take out the pirates? Why did the on-scene commander have to give the order at the risk of his career?
Posted by: Nephron | January 25, 2010, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
HAH! If that isn’t the pot calling the kettle black!
Posted by: For The Record | Jan 25, 2010 8:17:56 PM
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“We do not yet have all the answers about this latest attempt, but those who would slaughter innocent men, women and children must know that the United States will more — do more than simply strengthen our defenses. We will continue to use every element of our national power to disrupt, to dismantle and defeat the violent extremists who threaten us, whether they are from Afghanistan or Pakistan, Yemen or Somalia, or anywhere where they are plotting attacks against the U.S. homeland.”
Let’s all pretend he just said ‘gee, this was just an isolated extemist and that terrorism isn’t happening’.
Phony.
Posted by: tierra | January 25, 2010, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Funny how we’re still hearing from Osama bin Laden wanting to blow up Americans. Maybe if Bush and Co. had finished the job in Afghan. and went after Bin Laden instead of turning their back and heading to Iraq for that good ole oil, we might be rid of the guy by now. The repubs have done ZERO in the past year except to try to make the dim-witted American public believe it’s all Obama’s fault. Funny, I haven’t forgotten the Bush years. Actually, it’s all the repubs fault. And are they trying to right their wrongs. No, they’re trying to win elections. Disgusting bunch of traitors.
Posted by: pamp205 | January 25, 2010, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
It seems like we have “uncommitted” thousands of troops. Instead we are sending troops to Haiti. I wondered if the military commanders were consulted. This will probably impact the military plans.
We should have sent Acorn.
Posted by: pocono | January 25, 2010, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Does everyone know that it was the Republican idiots that got us into this no-win war?
Posted by: Jim | January 25, 2010, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
“Does everyone know that it was the Republican idiots that got us into this no-win war?”
Posted by: Jim | Jan 25, 2010 9:34:51 PM
The Democrats hold the White House, and supermajorities in the House and Senate.
War is over, if Barry wants it.
Posted by: Obama's War | January 25, 2010, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
The saddest thing about this is that we ARE NOT at war. Nobody has declared war, we aren’t warring against another nation or any group that remotely resembles a military force. 9/11 was not an act of war, it was an act of terror. By saying we are at war, we exaggerate the abilities of our enemies and play right into their hands. People who think we are at war are afraid…or should I say terrified? That’s what terrorists do, and that’s what they want from us. They have absolutely zero chance of conquering us, so they have to settle for scaring us until we destroy ourselves.
Posted by: Animusvir | January 25, 2010, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
tierra wrote: “We will continue to use every element of our national power to disrupt, to dismantle and defeat the violent extremists who threaten us, whether they are from Afghanistan or Pakistan, Yemen or Somalia, or anywhere where they are plotting attacks against the U.S. homeland.”
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So why did Admiral Dennis Blair let the cat out of the bag during congressional testimony by referring to a High-Value Interrogation Group that was supposed to be created last summer, but then again maybe it wasn’t. Looks like being prepared to interrogate captured terrorists, like the panty-bomber, is not a high priority for this administration. Hard to be taken seriously when all your “efforts” make it look like you are really a closet muslem sympathizer.
Posted by: gk | January 25, 2010, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
The Democrats hold the White House, and supermajorities in the House and Senate.
War is over, if Barry wants it.
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Somebody punches a hornet’s nest, and then as they swarm says – okay you put them all back in the hive.
Posted by: tierra | January 25, 2010, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
So why did Admiral Dennis Blair let the cat out of the bag during congressional testimony by referring to a High-Value Interrogation Group that was supposed to be created last summer, but then again maybe it wasn’t.
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Doesn’t sound like you really know what you’re talking about, nor its relative importance.
Posted by: tierra | January 25, 2010, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Article headline: “Chairman and Ranking Republican of Senate Homeland Security Committee: Does Everyone In Obama Administration Know We’re At War?”
Hello! This is the POTUS who ran the BO Apology Tour that you’re talking about! LOL!!!! They don’t have a clue what they’re doing. Of course they don’t know we’re at war! Silly question…
Posted by: JustMe | January 25, 2010, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Does Everyone In Obama Administration Know We’re At War?
Correction: Does ANYONE In Obama Administration Know We’re At War?
Posted by: For The Record | Jan 25, 2010 8:18:36 PM
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Obama should take a hint from Scott Brown! He is in trouble and is campaigning again. That’s all he does well; however, we can’t believe what he says. He’s an empty suit. We need jobs, better economy, transparency, homeland security, stop protecting terrorists, and stop blaming President Bush. This admin did inherit a bad economy and have made it MUCH worse! This is the most corrupt administration in American history. We need to replace the liberals in Congress. They are destroying America.
Posted by: TOO LITTLE --- TOO LATE! | January 25, 2010, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
tierra wrote: “Doesn’t sound like you really know what you’re talking about, nor its relative importance.”
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Who exactly was consulted about the decision to give the panty-bomber Miranda protection. No one in this administration can get their story straight on how they missed the opportunity to interrogate someone who was sent on a mission to perpetrate a mass-killing on US soil. Was he just another isolated-extremist (as 0bama called the Ft. Hood terrorist)? Or was he one of many planned attacks that have yet to occur. Unfortunately we will never know because someone went out of their way to protect this failed bomber and those who sent him.
Posted by: gk | January 25, 2010, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
The koolaiders have finally seen the Emperor’s new clothes…and they ain’t purty!
Posted by: Sharon | January 26, 2010, 12:17 am 12:17 am
War is over, if Barry wants it.
Posted by: Obama’s War
The Pres never said he wasn’t going to fight and carry the conflict to AlQueda, and the Taliban, that is what he has repeatedly said during his campaign, and has demonstrated that during the first year of his presidency..
Obama’s record on that I believe is better than Bush/Cheney.
If some want to equate how and where prisoners are tried [that's certainly a viable debate], and whether Obama knows the US is at war, well, that is just stupid and not borne out by facts and reality.
Posted by: Oh Say, Can You See? | January 26, 2010, 12:20 am 12:20 am
This is the most corrupt administration in American history
Posted by: TOO LITTLE — TOO LATE!
obviously you cut your US history courses
Posted by: PT Barnum | January 26, 2010, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Unfortunately we will never know
Posted by: gk
how do you know
Posted by: RDW | January 26, 2010, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Fact: The Bush Administration prosecuted the Shoe Bomber, Richard Reid, as well as Moussaoui and many others in Federal Court. Republicans tell us this was a fine example of Bush Keeping us Safe… Now Presient Obama does the very same thing, THE EXACT SAME THING, with the underwear bomber and Republicans say this shows Obama is weak on terror. You can’t have it both ways. President Obama is a great commander in chief. People jumping at every opportunity to play politics with terrorism are showing themselves to be hypocrites first, partisans next and putting your country last.
Posted by: AppeaseThis | January 26, 2010, 1:08 am 1:08 am
Until we stop spending trillions of dollars on the Bush debacles in Afghanistan and Iraq things will only get worse.
Posted by: $Wise | January 26, 2010, 5:53 am 5:53 am
How about we transfer Lieberman and Collins to military custody for advocating a war crime? A couple sessions with the waterboard should straighten ol’ Droopy out…
Posted by: Anonymous | January 26, 2010, 8:34 am 8:34 am
“Somebody punches a hornet’s nest, and then as they swarm says – okay you put them all back in the hive.”
Posted by: tierra | Jan 25, 2010 10:05:59 PM
That is what Obama’s glorious speeches in Cairo and Istanbul, aimed at the Muslim world, were supposed to do.
Posted by: Obama's War | January 26, 2010, 11:10 am 11:10 am
We haven’t done enough. We could have ended this war by now and everyone knows it. In Washington, except for the military fighting over there, they are ‘fence sitters’ trying to stay in the middle between left and right. The American people are showing how fed up they are with whole politically correctness that is driving our economy into the ground and you will see it in the votes. This feels like the same crap we had with the Vietnam War. I think Obama sees America as losers and I suppose he thinks we have to be, so he can apologize and grandstand around the world. The only way he would do anything is if he can be the celebrity that won the war. It’s all about that manic ego trip he is on. I wouldn’t mind the grandstanding if I could believe for a second he thought our country was as great as it really is and give credit where it is due…to the ones before him who gave everything to make it great. (And behave accordingly) Nope, if he can’t be the ‘savior’ he has no interest. When they were grooming him they should have taught him a bit of humility.
Posted by: Eve | January 26, 2010, 11:20 am 11:20 am
I am one who believes the underwear bomber should have been turned over to the military. I do acknowledge that this is a departure from how it has been done it the past, but that is not a valid reason why terrorist like this should not be put in military custody going forward. To say that the civilian side of the government gathered just as much actionable intelligence as the military would have is laughable at best.
Posted by: gsplsngr | January 26, 2010, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Jim had a really good idea. Why are we sending ACORN, instead of the military, to Haiti, to help out? For that matter, Americorps, too.
Meanwhile, we need to get Eric Holder’s old law partners out of the Justice Dept. They have a conflict of interest, since they used to represent terrorists, and they’re continuing to look out for the interests of terrorists, instead of the interests of the American people.
Posted by: frank | January 26, 2010, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Posted by Jim: Does everyone know that it was the Republican idiots that got us into this no-win war?
No, idiot Jim, it was islamic extremists who got us into this war. What are we supposed to do, invite them over for a beer? If you don’t take the fight to them then they will attack you again on your own soil. I live about 10 miles from where that plane would have dropped out of the sky so I get really irked with the likes of you who want the most powerful country in the world to sit back and be politically correct and try and reason with these lunatics. Oh yeah, it was such a deterant when Bill Clinton tried the blind shiek as a criminal instead of an enemy combatant in 1993 – deterred them to fly planes right into our buildings on 9/11! Who do you liberals want us to protect – the scumbags who want ALL Americans dead or the citizens of this country?
Posted by: Laurie | January 26, 2010, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Obama did inherit a bad ecomony and a war from the last administration, however, the last 2 years of that administration was controlled by both houses by the Democrats, REMEMBER????
Look back and see if you can notice when things started going to hell? It strted to go south in the spring of 2007 into 2008 and really went to hell in 2009. Hmmmm! It’s all George W’s fault. RRRRiiiigggghhhtttt. And for your information, Berry, the only thing that the Muslum terrorists respect is brute force and our will to kill each and every one of them before thay can kill us.Let’s just ‘Get Er Done, Berry. No nore talk, no more lawyers no more apologies, no more bowing before them and kissing their butts.Just kill em.
Posted by: LJ from Kansas | January 26, 2010, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm