Giuliani Comments on GMA Prompt Debate

we had 3 attacks under this inept, terrorist coddling regime
ABC and Obama can’t lie their way out of this one

And George S just sits there like a wart on log and lets Rudy lie. Thank God Jake Tapper at least calls them out whether Dem or Rep. if they lie or distort the truth. George S. is a sissy.

First of all, the fault for this journalistic felony lies entirely with Stephanopolous and ABC News. It’s Rudy Giuliani’s job to lie; it is your job to correct him. Your failure to do so is criminal.
Second, Mr. Tapper, your assertion that “neither the anthrax killer nor the DC sniper were firmly established as having been motivated by extremist Muslim ideology” is irrelevant to ABC’s failure to correct Giuliani’s statement. What on Earth does “extremist Muslim ideology” have to do with the presence or absence of terrorist attacks? Non sequitur.

Dear jhw539:
I assume that when you say “this inept administration” you are referring to the administration of George Bush. Three is a reasonable estimate of how many terrorist attacks he allowed to happen.

===This did not escape the White House’s notice.===
LOL. I bet it didn’t.

politically speaking Rudy could be correct i.e. during the Bush terms there was no terrorist attack ,after the attack except the attempted attack!
Cheney speach writers and Don Rumsfelds people will clarify this all later.

Why do political leaders insist on committing repeated bold-faced lies? I’m not keeping track of event counts, but I can tell you that the Bush administration faced issues involving terror. For Mayor Guiliani to say this only underscores how compromised he is as a leader. Irregardless of the problems with the Obama regime, shame on Rudy for devaluing the lives of the 3000 people killed on 9/11.

Why should George have had to point out the obvious during his interview of Mr. Giuliani? Give a guy enough rope and he’ll hang himself, which is just what the former mayor of NYC did with the length of rope George gave him. The American public haven’t been remiss in picking up on Giuliani’s attempt to whitewash GWB’s ineptitude while attempting to discredit the Obama administration.

Wow, no domestic terrorist attacks under Bush.Takes you breath away.
Just like the Dixie Chicks. You can’t critize the President of the U.S. in a time of war. Oh, wait a minute, you can’t critize a republican who starts a war based on lies.The Dixie Chicks were hung out to dry for saying they were embarassed that he came from Texas. The things the leaders of the republican party, you know rush and beck, are outrageous. When does ABC News, forget denouncing the lies, report the nonsense?

When is Rudy going to threaten to run for elected office again only to chicken out once more. 911 happened when Bush was in the white house and Rudy G was the mayor of NY. Is Rudy trying to revise history? There is nothing ever to happen to the US mainland of the same magnitude.

Keith Morris: you are SPOT ON. George’s spineless inability to correct a fact that even a kindergarten student knows is unconscionable.

You should just be glad they are willing to note that Guillani “lied”. They wouldn’t be so willing if the person was a democrat.
Axey | Jan 8, 2010 3:18:59 PM
Can you cite a Democrat making such a blatant lie on an ABC interview program and not being challenged in the slightest? Or has a Democrat just never told such a huge lie so you have to just let your paranoid accusation stand as a ‘thought’ experiment?
This isn’t an broken promise about future performance, a matter of policy disagreement or a difficult analytical conclusion – he lied about documented, uncontested recent history.

===can you provide some citations for your claims that “people” (some guy at a Berkeley bus stop?) accused Bush of using the anthrax attacks to hype terrorism?===
No. I just made it up. Out of thin air. Because I bet you don’t remember it happening, do you? I have to prove it in order for it to be true. Google it. Or not. It won’t change your mind or your tune either way.

===can you provide some citations for your claims that “people” (some guy at a Berkeley bus stop?) accused Bush of using the anthrax attacks to hype terrorism?===
No. I just made it up. Out of thin air.
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That explains it then.

“There were a number of things that didn’t quite seem to jive with the better part of reality,” White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said at Friday’s briefing.
Maybe someone should tell Mr. Gibbs the word is JIBE not JIVE.
You’d think the press secretary would have a better understanding of the english language.

Because I bet you don’t remember it happening, do you? I have to prove it in order for it to be true.
Axey | Jan 8, 2010 3:31:50 PM
Yes, that is how it works – just like when I say Obama isn’t soft on terrorism I give concrete and verifiable examples (shooting pirates in the head, tripling troops in Afghanistan, the cruise missile attacks on Yemen last month, direct quote from his inaugural address, etc).
Or you can just throw out vague, entirely unsubstantiated bumper sticker phrases. Not too hard to prove it – define who “some people” is, a name, a quote, a CNN headline with a date, something to verify that you’re not casually making up lies and exaggerating as Giuliani was just documented doing.

“There were a number of things that didn’t quite seem to jive with the better part of reality,” White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said at Friday’s briefing.
Maybe someone should tell Mr. Gibbs the word is JIBE not JIVE.
You’d think the press secretary would have a better understanding of the english language.
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Not that I think Gibbs does that great a job, but it’s worth remembering you’re not listening to Gibbs here – you’re reading what someone else has transcribed. Whether they heard correctly, or knew the difference themselves, is up for grabs.

Because I bet you don’t remember it happening, do you? I have to prove it in order for it to be true.
Axey | Jan 8, 2010 3:31:50 PM
Yes, that is how it works – just like when I say Obama isn’t soft on terrorism I give concrete and verifiable examples (shooting pirates in the head, tripling troops in Afghanistan, the cruise missile attacks on Yemen last month, direct quote from his inaugural address, etc).
Or you can just throw out vague, entirely unsubstantiated bumper sticker phrases. Not too hard to prove it – define who “some people” is, a name, a quote, a CNN headline with a date, something to verify that you’re not casually making up lies and exaggerating as Giuliani was just documented doing.
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Good points. Where is your backup Axey?

“There were a number of things that didn’t quite seem to jive with the better part of reality,” White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said at Friday’s briefing.
Maybe someone should tell Mr. Gibbs the word is JIBE not JIVE.
You’d think the press secretary would have a better understanding of the english language.
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Not that I think Gibbs does that great a job, but it’s worth remembering you’re not listening to Gibbs here – you’re reading what someone else has transcribed. Whether they heard correctly, or knew the difference themselves, is up for grabs.
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You may be right. On the WH website the transcript correctly says JIBE so I will amend my statement to say that you’d think ABC News would have a better understanding of the english language.

According to Rudy, it appears the republicans define “terrorism” much in the same way Clinton defined “sexual relations”.

Did RG really believe what he was saying? Or did he really believe that if he put it out there, knowing it was a lie, the lunatic fringe would seize on it and repeat it until they had convinced themselves it was true? Did GS really not know enough to challenge RG on the spot? Good Grief.
Don’t the Republicans know that all this finger pointing at Obama is seriously backfiring on them vis a vis terrorism. They are continually forcing us to recall 9/11 and, oh yeah, who was President then. Except, I’m sure, they truly believe that was all Cinton’s fault. What a bunch of whiners. These guys are anti- American. They relish the thought that something terrible will happen to us while Obama is President. Shameful. Traitorous.

kudos to GS for recognizing that he should have been more on the ball for the interview. Most news “personalities” wouldn’t have recognized this as a problem.
The essence of the matter on the talk shows is that the hosts (and many of the “liberal” guests as well) are much more firmly conversant in GOP talking points than they are on Dem ones.
This makes me wonder – who are their newsrooms spending all their time talking to, and what other news and opinion sources do they read?

What debate?
A right winger baldly lied (no pun intended)
A few journalists offer meek resistance to that lie.

Isn’t there an earpiece that lightweight journalists use so they can have a voice in their ear telling them what they have forgotten to say? Where was George’s or is the voice on GMA more for lightweight tips?

Rudy will actually get some folks to believe him. If you repeat a lie often enough, some people begin to accept it as the truth. Sad, but true.

Fire Stephanopoulos…he is a lousy journalist to let Guiliani say stuff like that incorrectly on National TV. It is a travesty and I will never watch GMA as long as he is there.

Until Obama experienced terrorist attacks, the general consensus amongst the media was there were no terrorist attacks on American soil after 9/11. They went to great lengths to distance Bush’s war on terror from 1) the LAX incident; 2) the DC sniper; and 3) the anthrax case. That they are dragging them out now to provide cover for Obama should be readily apparent to anyone that has paid attention for the last 9 years.
Stephy didn’t see anything wrong with Rudy’s statement because he understood he meant post 9/11 and he was part of the media trying hard not to let Bush connect 1) the LAX incident; 2) the DC sniper; and 3) the anthrax case to Bush’s war on terrorism.

===So did attacks occur axey?===
Which attacks? The ones against Bush for trying to them to the war on terror? Yes, they occurred.

“Which attacks? The ones against Bush for trying to them to the war on terror? Yes, they occurred.”
ROFLMAO!
Dishonest right winger cant admit there were terrorist attacks after 9/11 so she desperately tries to change the subject.

“Rudy is on tv right now, clarifying his remarks. Doing a great job.”
Is he claiming he had been waterboarded and was therefore disoriented?

You’re kidding, right? Or are you trying to tell me he wasn’t lying? Nice try. Look it up in the dictionary – yes, the same one used in the South as it is in the North. Posted by: Rican**************************
WMB- Weapons of Mass Destruction- Mission Accomplished- Who lied? Talking about a pot
calling a kettle black. Happy new year anyway

Rudy, Rudy, Rudy!!! You’re in it so deep now, JUST STOP!!! He doesn’t consider Richard Reid a domestic attack because it happened over international waters, and he didn’t scream Allahu Akbar. Mutallab belongs in military prison, so he can be harshly interrogated, indefinitely, and held without charge. “Noun, verb, six days waited by Bush was before 9/11″ Guliani….YOU EPIC FAILURE!!!

i’m a little surprised by george; he doesn’t usually let things like that get by him. perhaps he’s still trying to get used to the early hours? heads up george! you were brought on board to add a certain level of gravitas to the morning show!

You’re kidding, right? Or are you trying to tell me he wasn’t lying? Nice try. Look it up in the dictionary – yes, the same one used in the South as it is in the North. Posted by: Rican**************************
WMB- Weapons of Mass Destruction- Mission Accomplished- Who lied? Talking about a pot
calling a kettle black. Happy new year anyway
Posted by: spacerook1 | Jan 8, 2010 6:13:04 PM
Try again – “The most widely used definition of “weapons of mass destruction” is that of nuclear, biological or chemical weapons (NBC) although there is no treaty or customary international law that contains an authoritative definition. Instead, international law has been used with respect to the specific categories of weapons within WMD, and not to WMD as a whole.” Biological weapons were found in Iraq.

Is he claiming he had been waterboarded and was therefore disoriented?
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No, he made no excuses whatsoever.

Someone remind this idiot about the lives of civil servants he squandered by not practicing good emergency response practices suggested by his own people.

===I asked you if there were any further attacks after 9/11 (meaning terrorist) and you dodged the question posting something about Bush being attacked by liberals. ===
The attacks noted by Jake happened. While Bush was president. And Bush talked about them in the context of the war on terror. And the press did everything they could to keep him from tying them to the war on terror. Which is why I am pointing out that they drug them out now because Obama needs cover.

Hey Rudy, what would you call fleecing the economy?

Giuliani’s comments along with Dana Perino and the mysterious ‘Bush inherited 9/11′ from republican apologist Mary Matalin demonstrate a willful effort to rewrite recent history, add in Cheney’s recent rantings, no accident..
add Peter King’s recent remark that what Obama should do to keep America ‘safe’ is to say the word ‘terrorism’ more..
throw in the birthers’, ‘deathers’, 10th-ers, FEMA campers, tea party’ers, Bachmann, Foxx,
Hoekstra and other wingnuts in the ‘conservative media’ and you find yourself surrounded by insane revisionists who present a danger to America.

THANK YOU for being an actual journalist here. Not too many of you practicing any more. Faux or Politico anyone?

9/11, beginning the war on teerror, was the only terrorist attack on us soil.
GET OVER IT LIBS!!
The dc sniper doesnt exactly count
An airliner attempt in the middle of the Atlantic doesnt exactly count either.
They will be coming out of the woodwork, and the blood will be on Obamas hands

Mote says:
The DC Sniper doesn’t exactly count as a domestic terror attack.
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Tell that to the families of victims or those living in the vicinity of DC at that time!

“coming out of the woodworks….” Oh brother, frighten easily do we? We’re at WAR, huh? When are you joining the fight, mote? Been to Iraq or Afghanistan to help YOUR country against a brutal enemy? Taken target practice this week? Standing a post to defend the nation? Of course not!!!

I don’t understand why this is a right left middle whatever situation.
We are Americans under attack by domestic terrorists from our crime ridden cesspool cities and from maniacs from abroad as well.
A fundamental problem we face is that we do not, in many parts of the country, have what we need to defend ourselves.
We can’t have a cop on every corner so we need to pick up the slack.
I believe it is an irrational fear that widespread responsible self arming will lead to more homicides than are occurring currently.
Also, if you try to blow up a plane then you get interrogated until you have nothing left to offer and then you are eliminated from the civilized world.
This whole civilian trial thing is nuts!

When is a journalist going to ask Giuliani why HE gives US Citizens who commit terrorism on US soil a FREE PASS?
Does ABC agree with Giuliani that US citizens who commit terrorism are a-ok and it is only extremist members of Islam who should NOT be given a free pass when they commit terrorism?

I was very disappointed with GMA regarding the appointment of George Stephanopoulos. There is no chemistry on the set. Also I was turned off with him putting his leg up on the center table. His interview with Rudy was poor, how an experienced anchor person could forget to get clarification from Rudy a person who alleges to pay such and important role in 9/11. I suggest for the safety of the people that the Republican and Democrats come together to protect the people of their country. Where there is division there is war. Let’s put our differences apart and stop the war between the parties, who cares what party succeed in Health Care or War. The people come first that why there is an election for the people to appoint these individuals to do the right thing. To me all politicians are selfish they only think about their party and themselves. They should put the people first.